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New York City - Department of Correction Chief Points Finger At Muslim Imam, As Jewish Chaplain Resigns; Blasts NY Post For Lies |
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Umar Abdul-Jalil, an imam employed by the Correction Department, at his mosque in Harlem.
Glanz's move came just a day after Department of Correction Chief Peter Curcio resigned for allowing the rabbi to set up the bar mitzvah in the lower Manhattan jail for an inmate's son.
"Rabbi Glanz tendered his resignation today, effective immediately," said DOC spokesman Stephen Morello.
"Yes, I resigned. I decided it was best for everybody," said a distraught, frazzled Glanz at his apartment in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
Glanz blasted The Post for the recent series of blockbuster stories detailing how he gave Jewish inmates at The Tombs perks unavailable to other prisoners.
The rabbi said those articles were "uncalled for, totally unjust, pure lies."
"Whoever gave that information over lied," said Glanz.
"For 35 years I've been in public life. I never did bad for a single creature."
Curcio told The Post today that it was controversial head chaplain Imam Umar Abdul-Jalil who signed off on the bar mitzvah, not him.
"I regret the embarrassment that this event has caused the city of New York. As a three-star bureau chief, I understand that I'm ultimately responsible for everything," Curcio said.
"However, in this particular instance, I did not approve the bar mitzvah -- it was approved by Umar [Abdul-Jalil]."
Below is the official Press Release from Rabbi Glanz
June 16, 2009
New York, New York.
This afternoon, Rabbi Leib Glanz resigned as Chaplain of the New York City Department of Corrections, effective immediately.
For approximately nine years, Rabbi Glanz worked tirelessly as a Chaplain for the benefit of the Department of Corrections, its staff as well as its inmates. The Rabbi made every effort to insure that the staff and inmates of the Department of Corrections had access to religious ministry and human services irrespective of their religious affiliation.
Unfortunately, recent press coverage of allegations concerning Rabbi Glanz’ efforts as Chaplain and activities of the Department of Corrections have clouded and besmirched his efforts. In an effort to cease the adverse publicity that has been visited upon the Department of Corrections, Rabbi Glanz has reluctantly decided that, it is in the best interest of the Department that he resign effective immediately.
Richard A. Finkel - Meissner, Kleinberg & Finkel, LLP.
Counsel for Rabbi Leib Glanz
275 Madison Avenue, Suite 1000
New York, New York 10016
212-689-8600
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Jun 16, 2009 at 04:45 PM Anonymous Says:
So now I'd like to hear what all the Satmar bashers have to say. For the record, I'm not Satmar. I'm just sick of the bias that exists out there against them. Do I hear an apology? Nah, wishful thinking I guess.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 04:49 PM Anonymous Says:
why in heaven's name would the muslim yemach sh'mo approve the bar mitzva?? What does it have to do with him?
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:07 PM Anonymous Says:
can someone explain why the story popped months after it occurred.... what why who...
is the imam still in business or did he resign as well...
why are so many heads rolling...
how does this help.... who does this help...
why knock glanz and the other helpfull people
and if the issue is just about overtime it can be retreived by individuals paying for it...
is this the precedent of such event... or is there some horrible crime... i mean
please explain....
the guy helps countless folk all type any flavor... keep him there we need him...
he has a heart.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:06 PM Anonymous Says:
why in heaven's name would the muslim yemach sh'mo approve the bar mitzva??
Simple...to turn around and bring it to the press. Watch...his head will not roll. The press and the city are afraid to start up with him.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:03 PM Anonymous Says:
Achani Benai Yisroel Hansininm Batsoro, lost a good friend, klal yisroel and mankind lost a decent servent.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:02 PM ShatzMatz Says:
with rabbi glantz's departure I am afraid that the situation for jewish inmates at the tombs will markedly worsen.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:00 PM Dave Says:
“ So now I'd like to hear what all the Satmar bashers have to say. For the record, I'm not Satmar. I'm just sick of the bias that exists out there against them. Do I hear an apology? Nah, wishful thinking I guess. ”
Wait, what are they supposed to be apologizing for?
We don't know whether or not the allegations were true (although certainly some of them were deemed accurate enough by the City of New York to merit penalties to staff), all we know from this article is that Rabbi Ganz denies them.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:00 PM yehudala Says:
“ why in heaven's name would the muslim yemach sh'mo approve the bar mitzva?? What does it have to do with him? ”
The world is not out to get you
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Jun 16, 2009 at 04:57 PM j.r Says:
its a sad day for klall yisroel. rabbi glanz did only for mankind. I envy his gan eden. rabbi glanz! chazak viyemutz! I know you will be matzliach just keep your head up hashem is with you in every step of the way!
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Jun 16, 2009 at 04:57 PM Bray Says:
“ So now I'd like to hear what all the Satmar bashers have to say. For the record, I'm not Satmar. I'm just sick of the bias that exists out there against them. Do I hear an apology? Nah, wishful thinking I guess. ”
Is Rabbi Glanz filing a libel suit against the post?
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:25 PM LUH! Says:
Rabbi Glantz is a good person, I'm sure he'll find other ways to help people, I'm sure Klal Yisroel will still benefit in the future from his kindness, so Aryeh Leib, "be strong" we're all with you!
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:18 PM Pure Insanity Says:
Rabosai,
We must DEMAND that the Dept of Corrections reinstate Chief Peter Curcio and Rabbi Leib Glanz. We must also BOYCOTT the disgusting NY POST !!! This is a political lynching pure and simple. As a community, Yidden must support those who support us. To do nothing is pure insanity and will lead to the attack on our interests in NYC at a time when anti-semites are tasting blood !!!
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:16 PM UBET Says:
PLEEEEEZ stop calling Mr Glanz RABBI. He aint no rabbi just like I aint a RABBI
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:31 PM Anonymous Says:
Rabbi Glantz resigned and will have a great olem haba for all the good deeds he did and wll continue doing. A ish chesed, never looked to what type of chasidus you belong when he was contacted to help a yid in trouble, never asked who you are and what you do, if you needed help he was there for you.
We are the ones that are losing an emeser tzadik.
We should find out who is the one that leaked this story and help crerate the story and should be thrown out from between us.
Hamivin Yuvin
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:43 PM Anonymous Says:
I know rabbi glanz very well and I'm very familiar with his work in NYC DOP, all I can say to the so called side liners who officially had noting to do with all of this, you'll see for yourself how effective he was and how great the loss will be. He helped each and every person who was Jewish prisoner regardless he or she was religious. All Jewish inmates just lost the voice in nyc I guess now they will get a taste of what the Jewish Board of Rabbis is all about
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:42 PM Anonymous Says:
A acheini bnei yisroel in jail are the ultimate losers here. The heart Rabbi Glantz has won't can't be replaced. What a shame.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 06:20 PM Bray Says:
“ Rabbi Glantz resigned and will have a great olem haba for all the good deeds he did and wll continue doing. A ish chesed, never looked to what type of chasidus you belong when he was contacted to help a yid in trouble, never asked who you are and what you do, if you needed help he was there for you.
We are the ones that are losing an emeser tzadik.
We should find out who is the one that leaked this story and help crerate the story and should be thrown out from between us.
Hamivin Yuvin ”
No need. He's already "out". I think that the Imam is the prime suspect in the leak.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 06:17 PM Yitzchok Says:
who is this Reuven Blau from the Post that broke this story? The post is a has been newspaper. all they do is publish filth and bulls... hardly anything they write has any semblance of truth.. it became real garbage!
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Jun 16, 2009 at 06:10 PM Bray Says:
Does NO ONE here think that perhaps, just maybe, he over-reached? That he may have exercised poor judgement? I mean if you follow Gedolim austerity guideleines I'm not sure a catered Bar Mitzvah for 60 guets is a good idea even for those of us who've somehow managed to avoid incarceration!
Tofastu meribeh lou tufahsteh
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:58 PM Alex Says Says:
Rabbi Glantz may have done good things. For sure! However why is everybody blaming the paper and the world? It always comes down to them against us. This is shameful. We owe it to ourselves to be honest and admit this was wrong. In prison you don't get to make Bar Mitzvahs or engagement parties. It was done and it was against the law. So please don't blame anybody but those involved. Even if you admire Rabbi Glantz, we must be able to be honest and admit wrong. Even if it is our own yidden. This is what the Torah requires of us. Honesty even if it hurts. For all his good deeds he will for sure be rewarded. Schar Mitzvah Mitzvah Schar Aveira Aveira.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 05:52 PM Duvid Says:
“ PLEEEEEZ stop calling Mr Glanz RABBI. He aint no rabbi just like I aint a RABBI ”
Who then is a Rabbi If not a person that gives his life away for others........
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Jun 16, 2009 at 06:29 PM easy everybody Says:
Mr. Glanz is a good man, and the next chaplain will also take care of all 'achiny bnei yisroel'. That's the job of a chaplain, and enough with the rabbi and tzadik, he is a great askan and worked tirelessly for yidden, but not a tzadik or a rabbi.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 06:42 PM Anonymous Says:
“ No need. He's already "out". I think that the Imam is the prime suspect in the leak. ”
Why would the Iman be the leak? The Iman was involved in the approval and risks losing his own job or other adverse job consequences and the same negative publicity that Mr. Glanz got. I think the paranoia is going a bit too far here.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 07:34 PM Milhouse Says:
“ Rabbi Glantz may have done good things. For sure! However why is everybody blaming the paper and the world? It always comes down to them against us. This is shameful. We owe it to ourselves to be honest and admit this was wrong. In prison you don't get to make Bar Mitzvahs or engagement parties. It was done and it was against the law. So please don't blame anybody but those involved. Even if you admire Rabbi Glantz, we must be able to be honest and admit wrong. Even if it is our own yidden. This is what the Torah requires of us. Honesty even if it hurts. For all his good deeds he will for sure be rewarded. Schar Mitzvah Mitzvah Schar Aveira Aveira. ”
This was a jail, not a prison, and it was not against the law. It was within the head chaplain's discretion to allow it, and he did; as far as the law is concerned, that's the end of the story. The whole fuss is political, not legal.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 07:34 PM Anonymous Says:
“ why in heaven's name would the muslim yemach sh'mo approve the bar mitzva??
Simple...to turn around and bring it to the press. Watch...his head will not roll. The press and the city are afraid to start up with him. ”
He is a good heart man, and very close friends to jews and to rabbi Glantz
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Jun 16, 2009 at 07:28 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Rabbi Glantz may have done good things. For sure! However why is everybody blaming the paper and the world? It always comes down to them against us. This is shameful. We owe it to ourselves to be honest and admit this was wrong. In prison you don't get to make Bar Mitzvahs or engagement parties. It was done and it was against the law. So please don't blame anybody but those involved. Even if you admire Rabbi Glantz, we must be able to be honest and admit wrong. Even if it is our own yidden. This is what the Torah requires of us. Honesty even if it hurts. For all his good deeds he will for sure be rewarded. Schar Mitzvah Mitzvah Schar Aveira Aveira. ”
i agree with you. the only problem is that i don't think this should have forced him to resign. a suspension, maybe censure included, should have been sufficient for his one instance of lack of judgment.
the outrage really ought to be directed at inmate, for his arrogance to request, and then pull off (probably financed with his stolen money) the busha of a party.
i had never heard of rabbi glanz until now, and he sounds like a very special special individual; i feel sorry that he took such a blunt, and unnecessary hit. while i don't blame the press for covering this embarrassing story, i do blame them for causing such an uproar so as to cost 2 officials their jobs when a suspension would have been perfectly sufficient.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 07:28 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Mr. Glanz is a good man, and the next chaplain will also take care of all 'achiny bnei yisroel'. That's the job of a chaplain, and enough with the rabbi and tzadik, he is a great askan and worked tirelessly for yidden, but not a tzadik or a rabbi. ”
i guess you have no ideo whats going on in this field, how many chaplains dont care for the people sitting there, they just feel very good about the name CHAPLAIN, so please dont post nonsence comments. he is a big RABBI & TZADIK
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Jun 16, 2009 at 07:36 PM Milhouse Says:
“ why in heaven's name would the muslim yemach sh'mo approve the bar mitzva?? What does it have to do with him? ”
Didn't you read the article? He's the head chaplain. He's R Glanz's boss, or was until today. So it was up to him to approve it, which he did. I don't know about the yimach shmo part; he may be "kosher shebemitzrim" and "tov shebinchoshim", but in his chaplaincy work he seems to have consistently done good.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 07:20 PM bobby Says:
Oh well there is always ottisville
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Jun 16, 2009 at 07:46 PM Rabbi Glanz fan Says:
Rabbi Leib Glanz resigned from his nine year position, as Chaplain of the New York City Department of Corrections.
Nor did he resign from his 30 + year position, as "Ish Hachesed" doing for Klal Yisroel.
I'm positive that he will continue to do as much of chesed he did before he became Chaplain, and he won't be anymore in the shadow of the media.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 07:44 PM Retired DOC Says:
The Iman is the Man incharge of all Department Clergy, so he is the Rabbi's boss. As such the Iman must bear responsability for any religious service that is approved in the department. Otherwise, what will happen next? A mafia funeral, a catholic first communion service, a wedding for 150 guests of a prisoner...? The Warden, Deputy Wardens, ADW's, Captians and Officers that worked this day and were aware of this PARTY within the jail facility were obligated by Mayors Executive Order 16 to inform the proper authorities immediately. They ALL are alledged to have failed to do report this. Any civilians working that day were also obligated to report this activity. If they all looked the other way for these obviously perks of some select inmates, then what else was over looked. A complete shake-up of the Tombs Facility is in order. Send the employees to Rikers Island NOW, to work there as an example, so this does NOT happen again!
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Jun 16, 2009 at 07:15 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Mr. Glanz is a good man, and the next chaplain will also take care of all 'achiny bnei yisroel'. That's the job of a chaplain, and enough with the rabbi and tzadik, he is a great askan and worked tirelessly for yidden, but not a tzadik or a rabbi. ”
You are so wrong . There are 2 kinds of chaplains. There are those who fulfill their job requirements, and their are those who do whats right for man kind. Rabbi Glanz went above and beyond 24/7 to help "anyone" in need. His heart bled for that 13 year old who was going to have a Bar mitzvah with out his dad present. He went through the appropriate channels and it was approved. He tried as best as he could to help one person at a time. No kavod , No Money, just to do the right thing. He is a "true Tzaddik".
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Jun 16, 2009 at 08:04 PM Anonymous Says:
“ i agree with you. the only problem is that i don't think this should have forced him to resign. a suspension, maybe censure included, should have been sufficient for his one instance of lack of judgment.
the outrage really ought to be directed at inmate, for his arrogance to request, and then pull off (probably financed with his stolen money) the busha of a party.
i had never heard of rabbi glanz until now, and he sounds like a very special special individual; i feel sorry that he took such a blunt, and unnecessary hit. while i don't blame the press for covering this embarrassing story, i do blame them for causing such an uproar so as to cost 2 officials their jobs when a suspension would have been perfectly sufficient. ”
This party did not cost a red cent. It was all contributed by wonderful yidden who take the mitzvah of chesed seriously.
#27, it's time to start practicing ahavas yisroel (if in fact you are a Jew).
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Jun 16, 2009 at 08:27 PM Anonymous Says:
Rabbi Glanz stated that the article in the newspaper was "uncalled for, totally unjust, pure lies."
I'd be interested to hear from Rabbi Glanz what actually happened, and what in the story was a lie.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 08:14 PM Thank You Says:
Let's all say thanks to xxxxxxxx for leaking this story .you think you have a Nekoomah in hatzadik rabbi aryeh lieb ? No he is smarter then you so called smart guy .You just put a knife in klal yisroels back .Thanks Again
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Jun 16, 2009 at 09:25 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Achani Benai Yisroel Hansininm Batsoro, lost a good friend, klal yisroel and mankind lost a decent servent. ”
This "decent servant" allowed the caterer to bring KNIVES into the jailhouse. Does this qualify for "criminally irresponsible carelessless" if any lives are lost because of it?
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Jun 16, 2009 at 09:27 PM Anonymous Says:
“ This was a jail, not a prison, and it was not against the law. It was within the head chaplain's discretion to allow it, and he did; as far as the law is concerned, that's the end of the story. The whole fuss is political, not legal. ”
Why do you always act like the final posek and arbitrator? You have absolutely no criminal background, and apparently no education either. So do you think Glantz exercised sound judgement in allowing the caterer to bring all those knives into the jailhouse?
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Jun 16, 2009 at 09:23 PM Shlomo Says:
“ why in heaven's name would the muslim yemach sh'mo approve the bar mitzva??
Simple...to turn around and bring it to the press. Watch...his head will not roll. The press and the city are afraid to start up with him. ”
Read the article: the imam is the head chaplain at Corrections.
Rabbi Glanz is paying a steep price but it was, at least from what has been reported, an error in judgment.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 10:04 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Why do you always act like the final posek and arbitrator? You have absolutely no criminal background, and apparently no education either. So do you think Glantz exercised sound judgement in allowing the caterer to bring all those knives into the jailhouse? ”
Your point about the caterer was just one of a number of reasons why Glanz had to resign or be fired. As to your other point, Millhouse always makes believe he knows everything and thus his postings should be the final word with no other views tolerated. If you dare disagree with him you are either a "sheigitz" or "apikores" (or possibly both).
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Jun 16, 2009 at 10:03 PM me Says:
If I served 16 years in jail could I now apply for the vacant Jewish chaplian job like the Moslem chaplain did?
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Jun 16, 2009 at 10:14 PM Anonymous Says:
Rabbi Glantz helped many yidden outside the prison system too, such as in hospitals and was personally involved, the work he did can not be replaced by one individual and you need someone with years in the field to be able to help so many
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Jun 16, 2009 at 09:44 PM Milhouse Says:
“ Why do you always act like the final posek and arbitrator? You have absolutely no criminal background, and apparently no education either. So do you think Glantz exercised sound judgement in allowing the caterer to bring all those knives into the jailhouse? ”
Yes, I do. Tell me EXACTLY what harm you think it could do. Which prisoners do you think had access to those knives, and what do you think them capable of doing should they have stolen one?
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Jun 16, 2009 at 10:26 PM insidestory Says:
“ why in heaven's name would the muslim yemach sh'mo approve the bar mitzva?? What does it have to do with him? ”
It was a way to get rid of Rabbi Glanz
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Jun 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM jersey chaplian Says:
Rabbosai I'm a chaplian in a jersey jail all I can tell you is that Rabbi Glanz is someone special that we lost and now all of the chaplians are going to have a real hard time w/o R Glanz, people dont realize that R Glanz was so connected that even in jersey which was not his department when he called a warden the warden did whatever he wanted w/o even thinking twice, his name was as powerfull as if he was the head warden of the U.S. Its just so sad that all the inmates will have to suffer becose we dont have that man. All I can say is this man was up all hours of the night dealing with yidden he didnt know or hear of before. Any issue we had we allways knew we have R Arye Leib in the worst case, so forget about us chaplians that we will need to fight even harder, think about your brother who will have a very hard time to get glatt kosher food instead of hebrew national meat and cholov yisroel instead of OU-d. We cant tell them that its not kosher enough becose it has a OU if he can drink OU water and soda why not meat, and why isn't it good enough. So before you start bashing him think in to what he has done. W/o him your brother would sit shiva in jail, he wont get good hechsher foods, he wont get hand matzah, he wont even get grape juice for kiddish, or a fire for havdalah becose fire is a weapon so its a no-no but R Arye Leib did it all, he was a example to all other states that he was a man you listened to. If you would have known who he was you would call him a GADOL! All we chaplians hope is that now that he is not the one who is at fault we hope his voice is still alive even if he is not a chplian any more. WE NEED R ARYEH LEIB WE CANT GO ON WITH OUT HIM!
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Jun 16, 2009 at 08:54 PM Anonymous Says:
“ This party did not cost a red cent. It was all contributed by wonderful yidden who take the mitzvah of chesed seriously.
#27, it's time to start practicing ahavas yisroel (if in fact you are a Jew). ”
it is you whose yiddishkeit is suspect, since you are clearly lacking in busha, tzedek and chesed (the 3 unmistakable signs of yiddishkeit); i love every jew, but when they don't act like jews, and make a public chillul hashem, i must protest.
you clearly do not understand the concept of chesed; chesed would be making a nice bar mitzvah for a yasom, not contributing to an embarrassing spectacle that feeds into the arrogance of a man who has no busha whatsoever for his aveiros ben adam lemakom (which by extension would also be aveiros ben adam lemakom, as who do you think made the rules against stealing in the first place).
also, thanks to this jew with no busha or sense of tzedek, another jew, one who is renowned for his chesed, lost his job, and will now be prevented from carrying out the tremendous chesed that this job entailed. indeed, while my heart weeps for him (for his terrible aveiros; i really hope, for his sake, he does honest tshuva. no outward signs of it yet, unfortunately), i am still angry at him.
if you truly had the ahavas yisroel that you preach (and that's assuming that you're jewish, which i'm not so sure, given that you lack the 3 signs), you would be able to acknowledge when a jew does wrong, rebuke him if you can do so properly, and daven that he should change his ways.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 08:43 PM Anonymous Says:
The Post only printed information that was leaked to them. Perhaps we trace those leaks......What a shame for Klal Yisroel, Rabbi Glanz is a true askan, a man of noble character, whose goal was to help others, the loss is our own. My sympathies to any one from our circles incarcerated in N.Y. Boy, will they make sure there is NO special treatment.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM Milhouse Says:
“ Your point about the caterer was just one of a number of reasons why Glanz had to resign or be fired. As to your other point, Millhouse always makes believe he knows everything and thus his postings should be the final word with no other views tolerated. If you dare disagree with him you are either a "sheigitz" or "apikores" (or possibly both). ”
Liar. There are dozens of people who've disagreed with me and not been called either sheigetz or apikores. You're only a sheigetz or an apikores if you say something to expose yourself as one. But YOU probably ARE one, which is why you're complaining about it.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 11:01 PM kingsley the chuchem Says:
Unfortunately, this was an error in judgement nothing else. Unfortunately Rabbi Glanz understood that to resign was the only thing to do as the Curcio also resigned.
Rabbi Glanz from what I heard did his work bemunoh sheleymah but unfortunately sometimes mistakes have repercussions that spin out of control.
We should give him his due respect both for a wonderful job and sincere enough to resign for the long term benefit of the inmates future.
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Jun 16, 2009 at 10:59 PM Anonymous Says:
Now let us see if those selfish self-centered KOved searching will be happy now that jewish prisoners will not get their needs that they need. Why does there always have to be politics involved in every good deed? It all boils down to jealousy. Why did it take them 4 months to come up with the crime? And why did the post need to write about it 4 days in a row on the front page. Politics, Politics, Politics.
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Jun 17, 2009 at 12:05 AM David Says:
“ Rabbosai I'm a chaplian in a jersey jail all I can tell you is that Rabbi Glanz is someone special that we lost and now all of the chaplians are going to have a real hard time w/o R Glanz, people dont realize that R Glanz was so connected that even in jersey which was not his department when he called a warden the warden did whatever he wanted w/o even thinking twice, his name was as powerfull as if he was the head warden of the U.S. Its just so sad that all the inmates will have to suffer becose we dont have that man. All I can say is this man was up all hours of the night dealing with yidden he didnt know or hear of before. Any issue we had we allways knew we have R Arye Leib in the worst case, so forget about us chaplians that we will need to fight even harder, think about your brother who will have a very hard time to get glatt kosher food instead of hebrew national meat and cholov yisroel instead of OU-d. We cant tell them that its not kosher enough becose it has a OU if he can drink OU water and soda why not meat, and why isn't it good enough. So before you start bashing him think in to what he has done. W/o him your brother would sit shiva in jail, he wont get good hechsher foods, he wont get hand matzah, he wont even get grape juice for kiddish, or a fire for havdalah becose fire is a weapon so its a no-no but R Arye Leib did it all, he was a example to all other states that he was a man you listened to. If you would have known who he was you would call him a GADOL! All we chaplians hope is that now that he is not the one who is at fault we hope his voice is still alive even if he is not a chplian any more. WE NEED R ARYEH LEIB WE CANT GO ON WITH OUT HIM! ”
Well first of all for a Chaplain, you have pretty bad spelling and gramatical skills, most Chaplains I have met are typically more skilled at expressing themselves.
Second of all, maybe, if these alleged "criminals" cared more about the laws of the land, and less about whether to use Cholov Yisroel vs OU-D, they wouldn't be in jail to begin with. Let em drink OU-d, if it's good enough for a Psak by R. Moshe, it should be good enough for them.
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Jun 17, 2009 at 06:40 AM Anonymous Says:
I am sure that Rabbi Glanz did this out of the goodness of his heart. For all we know the Bar Mitzvah himself is suffering terribly as a result of his father's incarceration. Nevertheless, it was very poor judgment. Jail IS supposed to be a deterrent. The whole thing, Vort included (did you forget about that?) is a joke. Unfortunately, if you do something so stupid you have to accept the consequences.
Rabbi Glanz did the right thing to resign. It certainly shows his strength of character & his willingness to accept responsibility, a very rare quality these days. But in the end, he was wrong. People resign/get fired every day for mistakes that cost their employers in all different ways, including reputation. This was beyond wrong. It was insane!
I agree, I am sure there have been repercussions for other Jews in Jail, not just The Tombs. It may be as harmless as nasty comments, but who wants that?
Yidden...keep out of jail! Then you won't have to miss out on all the joy of life. And please don't tell me all Jews are innocent.
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Jun 17, 2009 at 04:16 AM Shlomo Says:
“ Now let us see if those selfish self-centered KOved searching will be happy now that jewish prisoners will not get their needs that they need. Why does there always have to be politics involved in every good deed? It all boils down to jealousy. Why did it take them 4 months to come up with the crime? And why did the post need to write about it 4 days in a row on the front page. Politics, Politics, Politics. ”
Of course it is politics. And it is about the role of the media in good government as well as the media as entertainment. We all know that a thousand good deeds can be wiped-out by one mistake. Having an advocate like Rabbi Glanz is crucial: access to kosher food, counseling, etc. But there is a huge difference between essential items (food, tefillin, etc.) and a bar mitvah party. It is a huge loss that he has been forced to resign. However, if the story is true then a mistake was made.
We know that there are soneh yisroel out there. And even if it is not sinah, many people find it improper to hold that type of a party in a jail: it is a perception issue. And politics is perception.
Hopefully, R' Glanz will be able to put this behind him and, IY'H return at some point once the furor has died down.
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Jun 17, 2009 at 06:45 AM Anonymous Says:
Those of you "yidden" who defend this poor excuse of a rabbi are a disgrace to Judaism, as is this rabbi himself. Get this, streimelheads. Orthodox Jews aren't entitled to special privileges in jail. Neither are Reformed Jews, Conservative Jews, Reconstructionist Jews, Muslims black and otherwise, atheists, agnostics, nor Christians.
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Jun 17, 2009 at 07:12 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Those of you "yidden" who defend this poor excuse of a rabbi are a disgrace to Judaism, as is this rabbi himself. Get this, streimelheads. Orthodox Jews aren't entitled to special privileges in jail. Neither are Reformed Jews, Conservative Jews, Reconstructionist Jews, Muslims black and otherwise, atheists, agnostics, nor Christians. ”
Whoa...calm down, fella! I'm not a "streimelhead" & I agree with you as do many shtreimel wearers I'm sure. I too think the whole thing is totally disgusting & I'm not sure why Rabbi Glanz should sue the Post (I don't read that rag so I don't know what it said.) Can you imagine the outcry if John Gotti's grandson had a baptism in jail with 60 guests?????
But lay off the insults. Deal with the issues. Then people will respect your opinions even if they disagree.
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Jun 17, 2009 at 06:58 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Rabbosai I'm a chaplian in a jersey jail all I can tell you is that Rabbi Glanz is someone special that we lost and now all of the chaplians are going to have a real hard time w/o R Glanz, people dont realize that R Glanz was so connected that even in jersey which was not his department when he called a warden the warden did whatever he wanted w/o even thinking twice, his name was as powerfull as if he was the head warden of the U.S. Its just so sad that all the inmates will have to suffer becose we dont have that man. All I can say is this man was up all hours of the night dealing with yidden he didnt know or hear of before. Any issue we had we allways knew we have R Arye Leib in the worst case, so forget about us chaplians that we will need to fight even harder, think about your brother who will have a very hard time to get glatt kosher food instead of hebrew national meat and cholov yisroel instead of OU-d. We cant tell them that its not kosher enough becose it has a OU if he can drink OU water and soda why not meat, and why isn't it good enough. So before you start bashing him think in to what he has done. W/o him your brother would sit shiva in jail, he wont get good hechsher foods, he wont get hand matzah, he wont even get grape juice for kiddish, or a fire for havdalah becose fire is a weapon so its a no-no but R Arye Leib did it all, he was a example to all other states that he was a man you listened to. If you would have known who he was you would call him a GADOL! All we chaplians hope is that now that he is not the one who is at fault we hope his voice is still alive even if he is not a chplian any more. WE NEED R ARYEH LEIB WE CANT GO ON WITH OUT HIM! ”
If you really are a chaplain, how come you can't spell C-H-A-P-L-A-I-N ?
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Jun 17, 2009 at 12:55 AM besser men redt nisht Says:
i would put the blame of this chillul hashem, and the loss of future religious interest for the inmates on the post writer, a busha he is a shomer torah umitzvoth, formerly a writer for the hamodia and switched to the post, he, the writer Rueven F. should get the heat, he claims he just did his job, the noble rabbi glanz may have made a mistake with this type of bar mitzvah, but thats not a good enough reason for a frum post writer to create such damage to klal yisroel.
i hope Reuven F. learned his lesson and in the future seek better news assignments
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Jun 17, 2009 at 07:57 AM PMO Says:
“ why in heaven's name would the muslim yemach sh'mo approve the bar mitzva?? What does it have to do with him? ”
This "Muslim" is a good guy according to Rabbi Glanz, who has helped many yidden over the years get kosher food and other needs. That is all I need to hear.
VIN, you should post the name of whoever this particular "Anonymous" poster is so we can add "yemach sh'mo" after his name too.
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Jun 17, 2009 at 07:54 AM Anonymous Says:
#54: Read the responses. At least 90% of them support what this rabbi did, and many are blaming the Imam cleric for ratting him out, when in fact the Imam approved the parties. Those people who have the "us vs. them" attitude, as most Haredi Jews seem to have, at least judging by what gets posted here, are contributing to anti-Semitism by gentiles and even worse, anti-Haredi feelings from other Jews, including yours truly. It's posters such as #1 who need an attitude adjustment.
This is the United States of America, our home. It's not Poland and Eastern Europe, circa 1900. We should leave our "circle the wagons" mentalities back in Lvov where they belong.
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Jun 17, 2009 at 08:37 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Yes, I do. Tell me EXACTLY what harm you think it could do. Which prisoners do you think had access to those knives, and what do you think them capable of doing should they have stolen one? ”
The prisoners were SERVING the food and had access to all the knives. Will you please get off the internet and get a LIFE! Or, at least get some kind of education.
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Jun 17, 2009 at 10:49 AM Gadolwannabe Says:
“ why in heaven's name would the muslim yemach sh'mo approve the bar mitzva?? What does it have to do with him? ”
Since when to we refer to a Muslim with "yemach sh'mo"? Is that the appellation we now have to give to everyone who is not Jewish or who does not adhere to the religious trapings of the writer? I feel sorry for you - you must be a very bitter person.
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Jun 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM Anonymous Says:
“ The prisoners were SERVING the food and had access to all the knives. Will you please get off the internet and get a LIFE! Or, at least get some kind of education. ”
All you guys who don't like what rabbi glantz did make sure not to go to jail and don't answer me about spelling that's the most lousiest argument and it does not change the fact if you like you can call me to din torah or court about my spelling the fact is you guys hate yourself for being jewish I feel it
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Jun 17, 2009 at 02:18 PM Milhouse Says:
“ I am sure that Rabbi Glanz did this out of the goodness of his heart. For all we know the Bar Mitzvah himself is suffering terribly as a result of his father's incarceration. Nevertheless, it was very poor judgment. Jail IS supposed to be a deterrent. The whole thing, Vort included (did you forget about that?) is a joke. Unfortunately, if you do something so stupid you have to accept the consequences.
Rabbi Glanz did the right thing to resign. It certainly shows his strength of character & his willingness to accept responsibility, a very rare quality these days. But in the end, he was wrong. People resign/get fired every day for mistakes that cost their employers in all different ways, including reputation. This was beyond wrong. It was insane!
I agree, I am sure there have been repercussions for other Jews in Jail, not just The Tombs. It may be as harmless as nasty comments, but who wants that?
Yidden...keep out of jail! Then you won't have to miss out on all the joy of life. And please don't tell me all Jews are innocent. ”
No, jail is NOT supposed to be a deterrent. Its ONLY purpose is to make sure the person is available for trial, and neither escapes nor tampers with the evidence.
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Jun 17, 2009 at 02:17 PM Milhouse Says:
“ Well first of all for a Chaplain, you have pretty bad spelling and gramatical skills, most Chaplains I have met are typically more skilled at expressing themselves.
Second of all, maybe, if these alleged "criminals" cared more about the laws of the land, and less about whether to use Cholov Yisroel vs OU-D, they wouldn't be in jail to begin with. Let em drink OU-d, if it's good enough for a Psak by R. Moshe, it should be good enough for them. ”
So now keeping the laws of the land is more important than cholov yisroel? On what do you base that? Why should a person compromise his kashrus, and rely on a daas yochid, just because he's accused of breaking some law or regulation, or even just because he has actually broken it?
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Jun 17, 2009 at 02:04 PM Anonymous Says:
Rabbi Glanz is a man of HONOR!!
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Jun 17, 2009 at 01:57 PM A Friend Says:
Let's face it when the newspaper prints bad news about a "Goy" it does'nt continue beyond a day, but when you have a "Jew" it burns on like a California forest fire. They love to print photo's of chasidic people because we look like persons of another galaxy and it sells newspapers. REMEMBER!!...NEWS DOES NOT SELL PAPERS ONLY GARBAGE TRASH JOURNALISM DOES. Do you think if Bernie Madoff was not a Jew, he would get all this over zealous media attention?? Think about it, their are alot worse "Wall Street" people out there. Letswake up and smell the SHMUTZ!
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Jun 17, 2009 at 03:01 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Mr. Glanz is a good man, and the next chaplain will also take care of all 'achiny bnei yisroel'. That's the job of a chaplain, and enough with the rabbi and tzadik, he is a great askan and worked tirelessly for yidden, but not a tzadik or a rabbi. ”
You don't know the guy so zip it
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Jun 17, 2009 at 11:50 PM Lubavitcher Says:
“ So now I'd like to hear what all the Satmar bashers have to say. For the record, I'm not Satmar. I'm just sick of the bias that exists out there against them. Do I hear an apology? Nah, wishful thinking I guess. ”
I don't understand why Satmar-bashing exists. They have the best chesed organizations in the world. Yes they have shortcomings I remember in the lameds their unprotested violence but they have come across above and beyond expectations.
Bikkur Cholim
Helping us in CH when we needed them most (the riots)!
HELPING YIDDEN IN JAIL
etc etc
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Jun 18, 2009 at 06:35 PM Anonymous Says:
“ can someone explain why the story popped months after it occurred.... what why who...
is the imam still in business or did he resign as well...
why are so many heads rolling...
how does this help.... who does this help...
why knock glanz and the other helpfull people
and if the issue is just about overtime it can be retreived by individuals paying for it...
is this the precedent of such event... or is there some horrible crime... i mean
please explain....
the guy helps countless folk all type any flavor... keep him there we need him...
he has a heart. ”
(how does this help.... who does this help... )
It helps the Deputy Warden