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Jun 22, 2009 at 08:55 PM
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Israel - The Chief Rabbinate is establishing a laboratory in the center of the country to carry out kashrut testing for companies marketing leafy vegetables.
The move follows the discovery of worms and other things that rendered produce marked "mehadrin" (a strict level of kashrut) unkosher.
The companies affected were Yevulei Hanegev and Alei Sharon. Rabbi Yosef Efrati, who certifies the kashrut for Alei Sharon removed his certification on Sunday.
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Jun 22, 2009 at 09:03 PM Anonymous Says:
From day one I know there is money to be made
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Jun 22, 2009 at 09:11 PM Anonymous Says:
What's with celery? Are there bugs in there too? I heard something about that, I wonder if it's true.
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Jun 22, 2009 at 09:55 PM Anonymous Says:
is this for frozen veg. too and are they going to inspect our products exported to them
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Jun 22, 2009 at 09:10 PM Anonymous Says:
If there were worms on a 'mehadrim" product, I'd worry about what the rest of us are eating in plain lettuce that is not the vegetarian equivalent of "glatt". While worms are not such a big deal, I'd still prefer to avoid them when possible.
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Jun 22, 2009 at 09:09 PM Kashrus Says:
I can't wait to hear all the nay sayers and bashers or is it only with New York Chassidisa Heschers
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Jun 22, 2009 at 10:52 PM Anonymous Says:
“ If there were worms on a 'mehadrim" product, I'd worry about what the rest of us are eating in plain lettuce that is not the vegetarian equivalent of "glatt". While worms are not such a big deal, I'd still prefer to avoid them when possible. ”
Worms are a big deal. You transgress sevral sins for eating worms or bugs. In crown hights the rabonim do not allow the resteraunts to serve lettus for that reason.
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Jun 22, 2009 at 10:51 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I can't wait to hear all the nay sayers and bashers or is it only with New York Chassidisa Heschers ”
If they had Chasideshe hasgacha they wouldn't need a special laboratory. These are the top of the line mashgichim who can see even the smallest worms and insects without special magnification.
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Jun 23, 2009 at 12:42 AM Shlomo Says:
There is an article in new scientist discussing why wines sometimes have a vegetable taste it was due to ladybugs being processed when the grapes are crushed
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Jun 22, 2009 at 10:35 PM Anonymous Says:
“ If there were worms on a 'mehadrim" product, I'd worry about what the rest of us are eating in plain lettuce that is not the vegetarian equivalent of "glatt". While worms are not such a big deal, I'd still prefer to avoid them when possible. ”
Most worms are mamash treif, whether eaten a la carte' or on a lettuce sandwich so eating a leaf with a worm is the moral equivalent of chazir. Having said that, I suspect that even the gadlim have inadvertenly eaten a worm sandwich expecially in earlier years when the detection was much more difficult.
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Jun 23, 2009 at 07:12 AM Milhouse Says:
“ If they had Chasideshe hasgacha they wouldn't need a special laboratory. These are the top of the line mashgichim who can see even the smallest worms and insects without special magnification. ”
No, what distinguishes these mashgichim is that they actually care, and therefore will be the first to avail themselves of this new facility.
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Jun 23, 2009 at 07:11 AM Milhouse Says:
“ Most worms are mamash treif, whether eaten a la carte' or on a lettuce sandwich so eating a leaf with a worm is the moral equivalent of chazir. Having said that, I suspect that even the gadlim have inadvertenly eaten a worm sandwich expecially in earlier years when the detection was much more difficult. ”
Lo ye'uneh letzadik kol oven.
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Jun 23, 2009 at 06:30 AM Worms! Says:
I don't know why everyone is worrying over worms.
We were using Israeli lettuce with a hechsher for Pesach this year. What popped (perhaps more correctly, hopped) out wasn't a teeny little worm but a brown, 4 inch, fully grown, live locust! I will admit, I do not know if it was a kosher variety though.
Due to the problems that could have been caused by any action taken by us, we decided not to do anything about it.
I suppose it was really more exciting than those plastic frogs everyone has during the makkos of the seder!
You will be interested to note that we did not use the lettuce from this particular package - and it wasn't due to the ch'shash of worms.
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Jun 23, 2009 at 10:24 AM washh the lettuce Says:
“ I don't know why everyone is worrying over worms.
We were using Israeli lettuce with a hechsher for Pesach this year. What popped (perhaps more correctly, hopped) out wasn't a teeny little worm but a brown, 4 inch, fully grown, live locust! I will admit, I do not know if it was a kosher variety though.
Due to the problems that could have been caused by any action taken by us, we decided not to do anything about it.
I suppose it was really more exciting than those plastic frogs everyone has during the makkos of the seder!
You will be interested to note that we did not use the lettuce from this particular package - and it wasn't due to the ch'shash of worms. ”
The israeli lettuce clearly says that you have to wash it one by one under a strong stream of water while rubbing your hand on it.
the reason is because their hechsher is on small bugs that are sometimes attached to the leave. the big ones is your job to get reed of by washing.
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Jun 23, 2009 at 10:35 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Lo ye'uneh letzadik kol oven. ”
Rav moshe feinstein, Z'tl says microscopic bugs or worms are mutar since even the chamor of r pinchas ben yair wasn't allowed to eat treif; you repeatedly seem to be calling R' Moshe lower than the chamor if he was allowed to drink this infested water. Shame on you, Milhouse.
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Jun 23, 2009 at 09:04 AM Raphael Kaufman Says:
“ Most worms are mamash treif, whether eaten a la carte' or on a lettuce sandwich so eating a leaf with a worm is the moral equivalent of chazir. Having said that, I suspect that even the gadlim have inadvertenly eaten a worm sandwich expecially in earlier years when the detection was much more difficult. ”
Actually, eating teloyim is worse that eating chazir, 5 lavim for bugs vs 1 lav for pork.
I do, however, take exception to your reference to moral equivalency. There is nothing "immoral" about eating chazir or bugs. We don't eat either of them because it is an issur d'Oraisah to do so. Notwithstanding all of the secular rationalizations for it, kashrus is a chok. We maintain it because HaShem says so.
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Jun 23, 2009 at 01:52 PM Alan Says:
Wash, Wash, and Wash all vegetables: inspect, inspect, and inspect. Even some of my gentile neighbors do that. We live in the natural world
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Jun 23, 2009 at 03:18 PM Halachik Man Says:
First of all except on pesach no one eats plains lettuce.
When mixed in a dressing the issur become Derabonim and acc to the rashba is mutar 1 to 960 ( which is for sure sufficient for the amount of bugs in a salad)
The aruch hashulchan has a lenghy disccusion explaining and being moreh heter for the yidden in terms of bugs when his sefer hakodosh was written
kol hanotel aima yesera al a tzibbur eino roeh bannim talmidei chachamim
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Jun 25, 2009 at 01:33 AM Milhouse Says:
“ Rav moshe feinstein, Z'tl says microscopic bugs or worms are mutar since even the chamor of r pinchas ben yair wasn't allowed to eat treif; you repeatedly seem to be calling R' Moshe lower than the chamor if he was allowed to drink this infested water. Shame on you, Milhouse.
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Of course microscopic things are mutar. Who has ever suggested otherwise? And what have they got to do with anything? Why are you bringing them in to this?
What water are you talking about? Who mentioned any water? And did you bother reading my comment before responding to it?