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Michael Jackson with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach
In the past Jackson was accused of making anti-Semitic remarks.
In a series of audio tapes broadcasted in 2005 on ABC's "Good Morning America," Jackson is heard using anti-Semitic language in a voice message to one of his former advisers. "They suck…they're like leeches," Jackson is heard saying. "It's a conspiracy. The Jews do it on purpose."
The tapes were part of lawsuit filed against Jackson by two of his former advisers.
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) issued a statement in 2005 
claiming Jackson "has an anti-Semitic streak." Abraham Foxman, national director of the ADL, said "every time he has a problem in his life, he blames the Jews". Foxman referred to a similar incident with Jackson in 1995, when he wrote a song titled "They don't care about us" that included anti-Semitic stereotypes. Jackson later apologized for the lyrics and removed them from the song.
"It is sad that Jackson is infected with classically stereotypical ideas of Jews as all-powerful, money-grabbing and manipulative," said Foxman. He called on Michael Jackson to acknowledge the hatred in his words and show his fans that he rejected bigotry.
According to a FOX News report in 2004 Jackson’s ex-wife, Debbie Rowe, considered herself and kids Jewish.
Below is from Jewish journal.com
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, the rockstar rabbi who was a close friend of the, as of a few hours ago, late Michael Jackson when the two worked together on Heal the Kids,
“It is an American tragedy,“ Boteach said. “This guy could sing and dance—he lived the American dream and this is the end of the story. This is not what our values are supposed to be about.“
“It was obvious what Michael always needed,“ the rabbi continued. “He needed connection with God, spirituality and family. Michael was a Jehovah’s Witness and when he was a Jehovah’s Witness he was doing quite well, but then he had a falling out with the church and that is when all these problems began.“
Boteach hadn’t spoken with Jackson in five years, having severed their relationship when he no longer felt that he could help the troubled King of Pop. But speaking by phone from Iceland, Boteach sounded heartbroken talking about his old friend.
“To be honest,“ he told me. “I miss him. I know people saw him as a bad person. But that wasn’t true. he was a person with a lot of issues and sadly he never addressed those issues. But he had a lot of good in him. He just never overcame this toxic celebrity culture.
“The real tragedy is we all are envious of these big superstars, and they often are the ones who get the least help because they have so many enablers.“
The rabbi added that he had long feared this day was coming.
“When they announced these new concerts, I thought that was an omen. that was a bad thing. Michael was going to have to train extensively for these concerts, and from what I new of him, he was not in any mental frame of mind to be doing concert,“ Boteach said.
“Michael didn’t need more concerts; he didn’t need more album sales. He needed to rescue his life.“
Boteach also e-mailed this prepared statement:
My family and I have just heard that Michael Jackson has passed away. Our thoughts and prayers are with his children and the Jackson family.
Michael Jackson’s death is not just a terrible tragedy for three young children who will now be orphaned. It is also an American tragedy that affects us all. Our culture, in which fortune and fame readily eclipse family and life nurturing values, is claiming an increasing number of casualties. There was a great beauty and gentility in Michael’s soul. His talents far surpassed those of his contemporaries and he yearned deeply to make the world a better place. I am saddened that the emotional pain he lived with prevented him from finding the meaning and connectedness which he longed for.
The saddest aspect to this tragedy is that so many watched it happen and few did anything to stop it. I pray that Michael’s death will not be in vain and that we see a return, even among Hollywood celebrities to the spiritual and family values that are life sustaining.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:16 PM Anonymous Says:
zoll zein mein kapoore.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:13 PM Anonymous Says:
you are a bunch of nasty people..."a pity he didn't die 10 years ago"? Yes, he was a complete weird idiot, but the comments on this site are beyond stupid.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:19 PM Anonymous Says:
Oh here we go, more celebration over someone's death. No one has to like the man, but to rejoice over the death of a human being, one who actually contributed thousands of dollars to people including Jews, seems a little bit unpleasant.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:18 PM shmsrel Says:
heart attack my foot, he prbably pigert from that toivah macleh. as thats what was his speciatl
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:16 PM Anonymous Says:
He was a menuval, don't believe his kids are his either, they are all 3 white skinned, how could that be?
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:47 PM ely Says:
“ you are a bunch of nasty people..."a pity he didn't die 10 years ago"? Yes, he was a complete weird idiot, but the comments on this site are beyond stupid. ”
And your comments is as well stupid, if he hated the jews I'm allowed to say that it's a pity why he didn't die 45 yers ago...
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:47 PM chaim Says:
...PS and i give credit for VIN for not printing his name on the headline 'kol huoimer rachov nikrah'
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:46 PM a deeply disturbed creep Says:
tooo much $
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:46 PM REB NUCHEMKE Says:
ITS A SHILA IF YOU MAKE A SHEIN HABREISO N HIM
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:45 PM REB NUCHEMKE Says:
Lt. Fred Corral of the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office said an autopsy would probably be done on the singer Friday, with results expected that afternoon.
"Michael Jackson made culture accept a person of color," the Rev. Al Sharpton said. "To say an 'icon' would only give these young people in Harlem a fraction of what he was. He was a historic figure that people will measure music and the industry by."
Jackson's blazing rise to stardom -- and later fall from grace -- is among the most startling of show business tales. The son of a steelworker, he rose to fame as the lead singer of the Jackson 5, a band he formed with his brothers in the late 1960s. By the late '70s, as a solo artist, he was topping the charts with cuts from "Off the Wall," including "Rock With You" and "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:45 PM chaim Says:
#3 i have free speech and you have a choice not to read or go to other sites. michael jackson was a shtuk shmutz
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:44 PM REB NUCHEMKE Says:
IT WAS PROBABLY A DRUG OVERDOSE
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:44 PM Anonymous Says:
the world just got a bit more holy by removal of that tumah.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:13 PM a kapara Says:
Hell get his due.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:12 PM Anonymous Says:
Now he can eat cookies and warm chocolate milk in bed with the devil instead of little boys!! And in HELL instead of the fireplace in his bedroom!!!
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:00 PM bukhov Says:
who cares his music sucked and he danced like a pig. he made the swine fly.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:58 PM CORNY Says:
“ Now he can eat cookies and warm chocolate milk in bed with the devil instead of little boys!! And in HELL instead of the fireplace in his bedroom!!! ”
ANY MOTHER THAT SENT THEIR CHILD TO NEVRLAN D NEED HELP
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:56 PM YIDI Says:
Maybe now his kids will have a chance to be normal.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:56 PM Anonymous Says:
According to law they have to put a "Please Recycle" sign on his coffin.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:07 PM Moshe Says:
What will the kids do now ?!
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:53 PM Chevra Kadisha Says:
May all anti-Semites have the same glorious ending that Michael Jackson achieveed today !!
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:52 PM Shalom Says:
His Kids are Jewish...by the way. And..how can you be glad a human being died? Was he odd? Yes Do you have a right to rejoice over his death? I think not
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:09 PM Anonymous Says:
I'm sure all the little kiddies he molested aren't crying over this news.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:07 PM jdl Says:
"kain yovdu kol oiyvey hashem"
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:38 PM Yenti Says:
“ zoll zein mein kapoore. ”
Klall Yisroels Kapora
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:40 PM Anonymous Says:
Michael converted to Islam approximately one year ago.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:32 PM dont allways cry Says:
who cares what MJ says or not , why do we have to see evrything in a racist prisem . we cant tell pepole to only speak in the tone that we approve, all we have to do is to show the world how benefical we r and allways was for socity , instead of fucosing our affords on a crazed yet talented but moraley corrupt chazir.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:45 PM Anonymous Says:
“ the world just got a bit more holy by removal of that tumah. ”
My sentiments exactly.
What a pathetic, perverted creature. His behavior made a mockery of G-d the Creator. Disgusting filth of a human being.
Dead forever. Amen.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:49 PM Anonymous Says:
thanks for the mitva tantz moves mike
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:50 PM anonymous Says:
Good, now the children are finally safe
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:22 PM Ani Lo Boteach Bo Says:
Many Jews are busy remembering the Rebbe today, while foolish people are busy crying over the loss of a miserable pervert with no talent whatsoever, who made his living basically by being a freak. We mourn the disappearance of emes and hope for a return of emes with the coming of Moshiach which was the goal that the Rebbe taught us to strive for; they cry over the loss of sheker thinking that it can never be replaced. Anu ameilim vehem ameilim.
Boteach also makes his living by shocking people, and for him to desecrate Gimmel Tammuz by speaking of Jackson instead of the Rebbe whom he claims still inspires him shows what he is. Indeed, he is but a fellow freak, consistently looking for attention, and even worse than Jackson because he uses a pop version of Torah for his freak shows.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:54 PM Anonymous Says:
he loved jews. he even went with rabb shmuley to hakafos on simchas torah at the carelebach shul. he only had great things to say about the experience.
unlike most entertainers, his songs werent about relationships and shmutz. all his songs had a message and a worthwhile theme about people and the world.
we are the world, heal the world, earth song, black or white, man in the mirror.
VIN edtiroal board made an error in judgment today.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:55 PM Anonymous Says:
“ you are a bunch of nasty people..."a pity he didn't die 10 years ago"? Yes, he was a complete weird idiot, but the comments on this site are beyond stupid. ”
go back to how his crazy life started, as the popular most child star of a family singing group.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:55 PM Anonymous Says:
“ you are a bunch of nasty people..."a pity he didn't die 10 years ago"? Yes, he was a complete weird idiot, but the comments on this site are beyond stupid. ”
and then the big accident on the stage set of a music video that was the turning point that seemed to change his life forever
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Jun 25, 2009 at 06:10 PM oy vey Says:
is it HE SHE maybe IT???? yimach shmoi vzichroy!!!!!! mushchas menuval doesnt even deserve this much on a jewish website.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:16 PM ShatzMatz Says:
I am surprised he died. He just recently underwent a complete tune-up and overhaul. Most of his parts are practically brand new.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 07:16 PM Anonymous Says:
Of course you are all entitled to "free speech" and I am entitled to think all of the comments on these boards are stupid....I don't think a jewish life is more valuable than a non-jew.....to me a life is a life. just my opinion.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:38 PM Anonymous Says:
your all crazy we lost the greatest Entertainer and musical genious
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:34 PM Anonymous Says:
There is a special blessing to say when Seeing a talented goy. So the comments of above are not too smart.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:28 PM Anonymous Says:
To be honest! When we see talent we have to tank g-d. He was an enormous talent. His song "earth" can lift you to heaven. Okay he was a little masuge, but please!
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:27 PM Anonymous Says:
“ He was a menuval, don't believe his kids are his either, they are all 3 white skinned, how could that be? ”
Wow, it is amazing how ignorant people are! His ex-wife was white!!! Please open a biology book to the section on genetics!
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:48 PM berel Says:
#23 ' bavod reshaim rinah'. why are you so sad when such immoral filth expires?
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:47 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Many Jews are busy remembering the Rebbe today, while foolish people are busy crying over the loss of a miserable pervert with no talent whatsoever, who made his living basically by being a freak. We mourn the disappearance of emes and hope for a return of emes with the coming of Moshiach which was the goal that the Rebbe taught us to strive for; they cry over the loss of sheker thinking that it can never be replaced. Anu ameilim vehem ameilim.
Boteach also makes his living by shocking people, and for him to desecrate Gimmel Tammuz by speaking of Jackson instead of the Rebbe whom he claims still inspires him shows what he is. Indeed, he is but a fellow freak, consistently looking for attention, and even worse than Jackson because he uses a pop version of Torah for his freak shows.
”
Why be so negative? I'm not a fan of Boteach or M. Jackson, but its obvious that Boteach commented on Jackson because he got a call and was asked to comment. I don't see how that desecrated Gimmel Tammuz. Boteach's response was appropriate -- he tried to see and point out the good in Jackson and he spoke about the importance of a connection to G-d. How is that desecrating GT? Isn't looking for the good in people important?
Who are we to judge? Mr. Jackson had a sad, troubled childhood and obviously that haunted him. What is the excuse of all the people commenting here who are eager to dance on his grave?
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:18 PM NB Says:
You don't think the secular media has plenty of bad and nasty things to say about him??
They have the decency to be respectful at this time...
Just basic human decency...
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:14 PM Yoelish Says:
“ he loved jews. he even went with rabb shmuley to hakafos on simchas torah at the carelebach shul. he only had great things to say about the experience.
unlike most entertainers, his songs werent about relationships and shmutz. all his songs had a message and a worthwhile theme about people and the world.
we are the world, heal the world, earth song, black or white, man in the mirror.
VIN edtiroal board made an error in judgment today. ”
How about the lyrics '' jew me, sue me, everybody do me, kick me kike me, dont you black and white me'' is that also a positive message?
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:13 PM Tuna Fish Says:
It's interesting that on VIN there is this much reaction to the King.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:11 PM PMO Says:
To those who think he was a lousy artist, he is, was, and probably always will be the biggest selling artist of all time (that was true even before all the craziness). He sold 750 million albums, and was recognized with more artistry awards than any other artist.
Secondly, he is a 50 year old man who is dead. Why celebrate? Everyone here is always yelling "dan lekaf zechus!" when a yid is charged with a crime... this man was never convicted (not to say he was innocent)... so why all the hatred? Because he was weird? Because he was EXCEPTIONALLY weird?
If you know anything about his story, he is what I would call a "tortured soul". He was used and abused by everyone around him, including his own family. His tragic life over the last 15 years or so is now capped off by a tragic death that will leave 3 children without their father.
Don't get me wrong... I believe he probably did some of the things he was accused of, but I don't know for sure and none of us ever will, even though the judicial system found him innocent. Therefore, I choose to focus on the tragedy of his life and the pain and anguish his children must be feeling.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:10 PM JEWU Says:
HE VISITED THE CARLBACH SHUL MANY TIMES AND WAS THINKING ABOUT CONVERTING
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Jun 25, 2009 at 08:49 PM elireb Says:
of what consequence is boteach's hesped for jackson? his association with him during his lifetime was puzzling and shameful, even moreso now that he is gone
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Jun 25, 2009 at 09:10 PM yaakov Says:
“It is an American tragedy,“ Boteach said. Was he referring to the fascination with that wierd person accused of liking boys or the man's death? Boteach should have simply kept quiet about the death of this resculpted freak.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 09:07 PM dovtcik Says:
i was wondering what ehrliche yidden who are supposed to be engrosed in keddusha , rooting for a shtuk timeh. enthralled by his music. the gemmorah says why did achar becaome a heretic, because his mother listened to greek music
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Jun 25, 2009 at 09:02 PM Anonymous Says:
“ How about the lyrics '' jew me, sue me, everybody do me, kick me kike me, dont you black and white me'' is that also a positive message? ”
He himself explained that the lyrics were misunderstood. The song is protesting about racism and discrimination. He apologised if the lyrics had caused offence, and then re-recorded the song to remove those lyrics
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Jun 25, 2009 at 09:21 PM Anonymous Says:
That picture is one of the worst I've seen!!
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Jun 25, 2009 at 10:06 PM Brian Whitman Says:
Some of you are saying he had no talent. You are obviously wrong. We strongly disagree with his private life but the man/child had talent. He was a great talent but man o man was he really #$$%%^ up!
There is talent by ayno yehudim too. Its ok to admit it.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 09:58 PM Anonymous Says:
i find it interesting that this post got so many responses more than any on this site,it goes to show he had an impact on the whole world,even our tight knit community,and i think thats because he was a good person.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 09:58 PM Anonymous Says:
A person of color?? Yes, white...he bleached himself because he didn't like being black.
As for Shmuely Boteach...he's quick to jump on the bandwagon once again. Hey, even a dead guy will be material if it gets him some more press.
The whole thing is sick. So he's dead. Big whoop. There are plenty more worthy yet ordinary folk who die every day. Give it up.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 10:35 PM curious Says:
us jews have been called many things but leeches is a frist...what does lmean by leeches `we suck blood `?
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Jun 25, 2009 at 10:18 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Of course you are all entitled to "free speech" and I am entitled to think all of the comments on these boards are stupid....I don't think a jewish life is more valuable than a non-jew.....to me a life is a life. just my opinion. ”
you obviously Are not A frum jew or just completely ignorant of halacha
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Jun 25, 2009 at 10:17 PM Anonymous Says:
Disgusting to write such comments! I as a jew would never be able to write such nasty comments on a human being, its sad that he died, its a tragedy to all his friends and family.
If he did utter a few anti semitic remarks its bad enough, but that doesn't make him deserve a death wish.
gitta nacht.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 09:54 PM Anonymous Says:
people get your facts straight if he is an anti-semite why would he marry a jew?
he was mad at some lawyers that stole monsey so he called them leeches,he did not hate jews he was friends with a lot of jews and he gave a lot of money to jewish causes,he was a geat man in his culture,and he was a good hearted man,and yes he was troubled thru no fault of his own,and as far as the allegations against him he was framed for money,if you watch any interview that he talks about children you wouldnt believe he could hurt any,he was a good person jewish or not. rest in peace.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 09:53 PM cool masmid Says:
“ Of course you are all entitled to "free speech" and I am entitled to think all of the comments on these boards are stupid....I don't think a jewish life is more valuable than a non-jew.....to me a life is a life. just my opinion. ”
Either you're a gentile and so I can understand why you feel that way, or you are jew that has no self worth and no understanding of who you are and why is it that there is in fact a difference between you and the non-jew - but either way you are wrong ....very wrong.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 10:32 PM Anonymous Says:
I do not understand why he called us like the fruit they serve in Chinese restaurants. How is that an insult?.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 10:48 PM Anonymous Says:
people get your facts straight if he is an anti-semite why would he marry a jew?
he was mad at some lawyers that stole monsey so he called them leeches,he did not hate jews he was friends with a lot of jews and he gave a lot of money to jewish causes,he was a geat man in his culture,and he was a good hearted man,and yes he was troubled thru no fault of his own,and as far as the allegations against him he was framed for money,if you watch any interview that he talks about children you wouldnt believe he could hurt any,he was a good person jewish or not. rest in peace.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 10:51 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Disgusting to write such comments! I as a jew would never be able to write such nasty comments on a human being, its sad that he died, its a tragedy to all his friends and family.
If he did utter a few anti semitic remarks its bad enough, but that doesn't make him deserve a death wish.
gitta nacht. ”
Epas zugst tu!
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Jun 25, 2009 at 10:51 PM Joseph Says:
Why the outpouring of sympathy for someone like this who is most probably guilty of being the prusteh menuval he was accused of being and who commented negatively about Jews??? You guys are probably the same idiots who felt bad for Koch when it was reported here he was ill!
Personally I could care less if he lived or died, but keep in mind one thing: Had the roles been reversed, he wouldn't have the same feelings for any of YOU!
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Jun 25, 2009 at 10:50 PM Anonymous Says:
his jewish children are now yesomim.
he once went to simchas torah hakofes at the carlebach shul and really enjoyed the experience.
another time he went to shabbos mincha at the stanton street shul, and shook everyones hands after davening.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 06:45 AM Anonymous Says:
“ I do not understand why he called us like the fruit they serve in Chinese restaurants. How is that an insult?.
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He meant we are overly sweet.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 06:42 AM Anonymous Says:
“ people get your facts straight if he is an anti-semite why would he marry a jew?
he was mad at some lawyers that stole monsey so he called them leeches,he did not hate jews he was friends with a lot of jews and he gave a lot of money to jewish causes,he was a geat man in his culture,and he was a good hearted man,and yes he was troubled thru no fault of his own,and as far as the allegations against him he was framed for money,if you watch any interview that he talks about children you wouldnt believe he could hurt any,he was a good person jewish or not. rest in peace. ”
You were doing OK until "if you watch any interview that he talks about children you wouldnt believe he could hurt any".
A person's love for children proves nothing about his potential to be a child molestor. (in fact, i'll bet someone who hates kids and doesn't want to be within fifty feet of the noisy messy little pests is probably your best bet if you are looking for someone who is NOT a child molestor.)
All pedophiles love children. No pedophile thinks he is hurting his victim.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 06:34 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Why be so negative? I'm not a fan of Boteach or M. Jackson, but its obvious that Boteach commented on Jackson because he got a call and was asked to comment. I don't see how that desecrated Gimmel Tammuz. Boteach's response was appropriate -- he tried to see and point out the good in Jackson and he spoke about the importance of a connection to G-d. How is that desecrating GT? Isn't looking for the good in people important?
Who are we to judge? Mr. Jackson had a sad, troubled childhood and obviously that haunted him. What is the excuse of all the people commenting here who are eager to dance on his grave? ”
You did not see the hype he created on social media about his upcoming statement.
Boteach wanted to be and became part of the media circus on a day that he could have used to speak about kedusha. He is Chabad when it suits him and needs the credibility, and independent when he can do better that way.
Jackson's death is as meaningless as his life and should not even be a subject of debate on a Torah board. VIN, unlike Boteach, was honest and reminded us that Jackson was an anti-Semite. However, he was so inconsequential and such a freak that I don't believe he is even worthy enough of the rina part of ubeavud reshoim rina.
And like Britney who also sells huge numbers of albums, Jackson had no talent.
McDonalds sells billions of portions of salty, oily unhealthy food a year. Do their sales make their food good and healthy all of a sudden? (forget kashrus as neither Jackson nor McD is intended for Yidden).
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Jun 26, 2009 at 06:25 AM Anonymous Says:
“ people get your facts straight if he is an anti-semite why would he marry a jew?
he was mad at some lawyers that stole monsey so he called them leeches,he did not hate jews he was friends with a lot of jews and he gave a lot of money to jewish causes,he was a geat man in his culture,and he was a good hearted man,and yes he was troubled thru no fault of his own,and as far as the allegations against him he was framed for money,if you watch any interview that he talks about children you wouldnt believe he could hurt any,he was a good person jewish or not. rest in peace. ”
Because the Jew he married had no connection with being a Jew and therefore he did not see her as one. A good person does not dangle a baby over a balcony.
And why we are even wasting time debating the meaningless life of this meaningles menuval is beyond me.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 06:01 AM Anonymous Says:
“ There is a special blessing to say when Seeing a talented goy. So the comments of above are not too smart. ”
There is also a brachah of meshaneh habri'os but it doesn't mean we respect the animal. It just means we recognize that there is Gd who made the freak (the animal, not the singer) the way He wanted to make it.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 04:58 AM Anonymous Says:
why are you lefties so obess with such tumah???
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Jun 26, 2009 at 02:25 AM Anonymous Says:
“ his jewish children are now yesomim.
he once went to simchas torah hakofes at the carlebach shul and really enjoyed the experience.
another time he went to shabbos mincha at the stanton street shul, and shook everyones hands after davening. ”
They were jesomim before he died too, he bought the kids off from their mother, so he could raise them in neverland or meshuggeland, with masks on their face, some Jewish upbringing they got. Let the mother take them back and give them a normal life.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 06:58 AM liebel Says:
#64, #69 why do you dvelve into what the words of a aviavos hatumah , a shmutz meant. it must be you are also into this garbage, so vu kumt dos? you should dwelve into, l'havdil a trillion timesthe holy words of the torah what it means..
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Jun 26, 2009 at 01:42 AM Groningen Says:
“ us jews have been called many things but leeches is a frist...what does lmean by leeches `we suck blood `? ”
Curious,
please pay some attention to recent history, "leeches" was already a common description of Jews by their enemies back in the 19th century.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 12:22 AM m j forever Says:
the guy was and will forever be the best entertainer! (but i never listend to him on sefire) mj ur the man!
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Jun 26, 2009 at 12:05 AM mazel tov Says:
imgaine the zechusim he has for all those cool moves he made up for yeshiva guys to dance in the middle in front of a choson and kalla.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 12:05 AM value Says:
“ people get your facts straight if he is an anti-semite why would he marry a jew?
he was mad at some lawyers that stole monsey so he called them leeches,he did not hate jews he was friends with a lot of jews and he gave a lot of money to jewish causes,he was a geat man in his culture,and he was a good hearted man,and yes he was troubled thru no fault of his own,and as far as the allegations against him he was framed for money,if you watch any interview that he talks about children you wouldnt believe he could hurt any,he was a good person jewish or not. rest in peace. ”
Then you must not be jewish. All life is valuable every single thing the one above created has value. However to say that this guy and the jews have equal value is absurd.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 11:52 PM ga Says:
“ ITS A SHILA IF YOU MAKE A SHEIN HABREISO N HIM ”
You can't make a mishaneh habrios on someone who was mishaneh HIMSELF.
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Jun 25, 2009 at 11:51 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I do not understand why he called us like the fruit they serve in Chinese restaurants. How is that an insult?.
”
those fruits are lychees. The leeches are bloodsuckers that suck until you die!
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Jun 25, 2009 at 11:00 PM Anonymous Says:
“ his jewish children are now yesomim.
he once went to simchas torah hakofes at the carlebach shul and really enjoyed the experience.
another time he went to shabbos mincha at the stanton street shul, and shook everyones hands after davening. ”
were can we be menachem avel them
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Jun 25, 2009 at 10:59 PM gavi Says:
i have a question for all of you, if you dont know the answer than go look it up. when the egyptians, who i hope we can all agree were more antisemetic than michael jackson, were drowning in yam suf, the angels wanted to sing songs of praises to hashem, what did hashem say. yes he sinned, and yes he should not be on our top 100 list of role models, but think to yourself, would reb moshe or the rav or any of the gedolim make this statement, i doubt a single one of them would feel he was worthy of a y''s and if he was, we still should not be joyous, on a lighter note #59, it actually isnt close to a first, jews were one of the basises for vampires, i request mechilah in advance if i offended any of you, but the point needed to be made tihiyeh mitalmidei shel aharon- gavi
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Jun 26, 2009 at 07:15 AM elef havdolahs Says:
every year the kedushah of gimmel tamuz removes klipahs that envelop our world........and as for boteach.........................get a life and work on lack of values amongst yidden not goyim.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 07:28 AM Me Says:
R.I.P Michael. I loved you and I will never forget you. And this goes out to his beautiful kids Blanket and Prince, I hope you'll be well. Good Luck
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Jun 26, 2009 at 07:27 AM favel Says:
#85 you do plenty what those tzaddikum dont do ,so punkt when it come to such tammeh, shmutz all of a sudden your a tzaddik. no i dont make my every move or thought what tzaddikum do and neither do you.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 07:52 AM Anonymous Says:
What was his fathers name
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:11 AM nachson Says:
#86..whech, fech.. how can a yid, a shomer torah, say this on such shmutz, unless your from MO and down
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:25 AM Anonymous Says:
there is a lesson to be learned from everything in this world. What we can learn from this is to see where Money, Fames and Success can lead a person if he is not well grounded. A person needs to know where it all comes from he needs Biytul.
on a side note - what a way to steal farrah fawcet's thunder
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:21 AM Anonymous Says:
“ #86..whech, fech.. how can a yid, a shomer torah, say this on such shmutz, unless your from MO and down ”
Couldn't pass up an opportunity to spread a little more sinas chinam between Modern Orthodox and 'charaidim'?
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:28 AM Anonymous Says:
“ #86..whech, fech.. how can a yid, a shomer torah, say this on such shmutz, unless your from MO and down ”
and down to where? to charaidi?
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:51 AM Anonymous Says:
I can not beleive that so many frum people would waste time and words on such an anti-semetic menuval
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Jun 26, 2009 at 09:16 AM Anonymous Says:
“ #86..whech, fech.. how can a yid, a shomer torah, say this on such shmutz, unless your from MO and down ”
did you ever hear of sinas chinum...may be tish abav will remind you...
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Jun 26, 2009 at 09:15 AM Anonymous Says:
“ According to law they have to put a "Please Recycle" sign on his coffin. ”
i dont get the joke??can somone be mefarish it
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:55 AM Anonymous Says:
“ people get your facts straight if he is an anti-semite why would he marry a jew?
he was mad at some lawyers that stole monsey so he called them leeches,he did not hate jews he was friends with a lot of jews and he gave a lot of money to jewish causes,he was a geat man in his culture,and he was a good hearted man,and yes he was troubled thru no fault of his own,and as far as the allegations against him he was framed for money,if you watch any interview that he talks about children you wouldnt believe he could hurt any,he was a good person jewish or not. rest in peace. ”
"“people get your facts straight if he is an anti-semite why would he marry a jew?
he was mad at some lawyers that stole monsey so he called them leeches,he did not hate jews he was friends with a lot of jews and he gave a lot of money to jewish causes,he was a geat man in his culture,and he was a good hearted man,and yes he was troubled thru no fault of his own,and as far as the allegations against him he was framed for money,if you watch any interview that he talks about children you wouldnt believe he could hurt any,he was a good person jewish or not. rest in peace.”"
Finally some words of sanity. I am not supporting his bizarre bahavior, and do believe that his bizarre bahavior did invite his problems. I guess this sends a message that celebrities need to try to live a normal life. While some celebrities might feel that bizarre behavior might get them more attention and success, in the long run it will probably backfire.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:55 AM ShatzMatz Says:
I would like to say a few words on behalf of all the people who grew up as bochurim in yeshiva during the 80's.
This was a time before MJ got involced in any controversies and shmutz. At that time his music was a salve for the soul. Teenage yeshiva years are a difficult time for adolecents. With his sweet music he made it all that much more bareable. So for all the joy he gave to the kids of my generation I would like to thank him. As for any misdeeds he might have comitted since, I believe that he already paud the price on this world. Rest In Peace.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:44 AM sam Says:
#92 ...reform, conservative ,christian (the first reform movement) etc (if you feel shomrei torah umitzvos, aka chareidi, are not better your entitled to your opinion, even though its against the facts). why is it hate when one points out to certain groups who are oiver quite a few mitzvos, because they dont ascriber to it ,as hate . if you have a complex then dont desecrate the torah. i havent see a shomer torah to complain hate for not shomer torah, just pointing out what they are oiver
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:43 AM Mazel Tov??? Says:
“ imgaine the zechusim he has for all those cool moves he made up for yeshiva guys to dance in the middle in front of a choson and kalla. ”
mazel tov Says:Says:
“imgaine the zechusim he has for all those cool moves he made up for yeshiva guys to dance in the middle in front of a choson and kalla.”
WHAT YESHIVA DO YOU KNOW OF THAT THE BOCHURIM WATCH T.V. TO KNOW HOW HE DANCED???
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:40 AM Oy Gevald Says:
I'm wondering if President Obama would give him an honorary funeral in the Capitol.
I don't put it past him to try to have Michael Jackson lie in state in the rotunda of the Capitol like dead Presidents. Let's see.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:40 AM common sense Says:
“ There is also a brachah of meshaneh habri'os but it doesn't mean we respect the animal. It just means we recognize that there is Gd who made the freak (the animal, not the singer) the way He wanted to make it. ”
The point of blessing is, because of the joy. When we see something and we have pleasures then it's an obligation to tank G-D.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:38 AM fetsel Says:
“ R.I.P Michael. I loved you and I will never forget you. And this goes out to his beautiful kids Blanket and Prince, I hope you'll be well. Good Luck ”
nebach..........................a big rachmanus on you!!!!!!
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Jun 26, 2009 at 08:36 AM fetsel Says:
“ why are you lefties so obess with such tumah??? ”
i agree, your all a bond of mishiguyim who have nothing to do with your life!!!luz up with this narish things.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 09:21 AM Anonymous Says:
“ To those who think he was a lousy artist, he is, was, and probably always will be the biggest selling artist of all time (that was true even before all the craziness). He sold 750 million albums, and was recognized with more artistry awards than any other artist.
Secondly, he is a 50 year old man who is dead. Why celebrate? Everyone here is always yelling "dan lekaf zechus!" when a yid is charged with a crime... this man was never convicted (not to say he was innocent)... so why all the hatred? Because he was weird? Because he was EXCEPTIONALLY weird?
If you know anything about his story, he is what I would call a "tortured soul". He was used and abused by everyone around him, including his own family. His tragic life over the last 15 years or so is now capped off by a tragic death that will leave 3 children without their father.
Don't get me wrong... I believe he probably did some of the things he was accused of, but I don't know for sure and none of us ever will, even though the judicial system found him innocent. Therefore, I choose to focus on the tragedy of his life and the pain and anguish his children must be feeling. ”
you give the benefit of the doubt to this sicko but not to the bochurim in japan?
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Jun 26, 2009 at 09:36 AM jw Says:
The saddest aspect to this tragedy is that so many watched it happen and few did anything to stop it. I pray that Michael’s death will not be in vain and that we see a return, even among Hollywood celebrities to the spiritual and family values that are life sustaining.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 09:35 AM Anonymous Says:
“ I'm wondering if President Obama would give him an honorary funeral in the Capitol.
I don't put it past him to try to have Michael Jackson lie in state in the rotunda of the Capitol like dead Presidents. Let's see. ”
sfunny it was president reagan who invited him to the white house
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Jun 26, 2009 at 09:35 AM jw Says:
Yes, the author is right. When Michael was a JW he had focus and a real spiritual grounding to his life. It was after he left that he succumbed to his own frailities and became dysfunctional. Very sad.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 09:33 AM Anonymous Says:
I'm really shocked by a lot of the comments here. If this isn't loshon hara, I'm not sure what is. MJ had a lot of problems, but he was a brilliant musician who inspired millions of people. The fact that some people who call themselves frum would use such language is a major chillul hashem. It's not only Orthodox Jews who read VosIzNeias and people should be aware of the image they're giving people of Jews. I never heard anything about MJ being antisemitic until now, and there's a difference between being an antisemite and just plain crazy :P Some of the people on this blog sound like they should be in nthe Taliban...
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Jun 26, 2009 at 09:28 AM Anonymous Says:
“ #92 ...reform, conservative ,christian (the first reform movement) etc (if you feel shomrei torah umitzvos, aka chareidi, are not better your entitled to your opinion, even though its against the facts). why is it hate when one points out to certain groups who are oiver quite a few mitzvos, because they dont ascriber to it ,as hate . if you have a complex then dont desecrate the torah. i havent see a shomer torah to complain hate for not shomer torah, just pointing out what they are oiver ”
If you think pointing out people's avairos is a mitzvah why don't you make sure you do so accuratly? I'm sure you know your own avairos better than you know other people's, so why don't you start there?
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Jun 26, 2009 at 09:48 AM ga Says:
I find it a bit ironic that if a frum person was accused r"l of the things that this guy (and I use the term loosely) was accused of doing, most of you would be screaming that he should be locked up, killed, resucitated so he could be killed again, etc., but when it's a goy, suddenly we have to have rachmonus on him.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 10:38 AM Anonymous Says:
“ #86..whech, fech.. how can a yid, a shomer torah, say this on such shmutz, unless your from MO and down ”
I am moved by your overwhelming display of ahavas yisroel -
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Jun 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM Anonymous Says:
“ I find it a bit ironic that if a frum person was accused r"l of the things that this guy (and I use the term loosely) was accused of doing, most of you would be screaming that he should be locked up, killed, resucitated so he could be killed again, etc., but when it's a goy, suddenly we have to have rachmonus on him. ”
"killed, resucitated so he could be killed again".
Nice touch. I like it.
Hope you don't mind my using it.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 10:59 AM PMO Says:
“ mazel tov Says:Says:
“imgaine the zechusim he has for all those cool moves he made up for yeshiva guys to dance in the middle in front of a choson and kalla.”
WHAT YESHIVA DO YOU KNOW OF THAT THE BOCHURIM WATCH T.V. TO KNOW HOW HE DANCED??? ”
What world do you live in that you assume that no bochurim watch TV?
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Jun 26, 2009 at 10:57 AM Anonymous Says:
every person has an adult (chacham) and a child (letz) within them....
the adult in us should be saying "wow, look how far one can go with the proper determination" we should be taking out the good in him and learn from his achievements (i don't think a chacham can argue that he has achieved a lot)
the child in us should be saying........ well just read the posts and you'll know what the child says
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Jun 26, 2009 at 10:49 AM zeitchik Says:
#111.. do you also have a guilty concience?
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Jun 26, 2009 at 11:05 AM PMO Says:
“ you give the benefit of the doubt to this sicko but not to the bochurim in japan? ”
MJ was found not guilty in his crimal trial. The fact is that there was PLENTY of reasonable doubt (ie. the mom likes to sue grocery stores for fake-falling and such). I do believe that he probably did do these things, but I cannot know for sure. He was not caught red-handed. That is my only point. What this has to do with bochurim in Japan who were caught red-handed committing an international crime is well beyond me... it's like comparing apples and Buicks.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 11:23 AM Anonymous Says:
i dont believe he did it for a second,watch any of his interviews where he talks about it and then come back and say you think he did it,he was framed for the money thats it,
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Jun 26, 2009 at 11:23 AM zev Says:
Boruch dayan hoemes to a great musical genius!
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Jun 26, 2009 at 11:18 AM PMO Says:
“ I find it a bit ironic that if a frum person was accused r"l of the things that this guy (and I use the term loosely) was accused of doing, most of you would be screaming that he should be locked up, killed, resucitated so he could be killed again, etc., but when it's a goy, suddenly we have to have rachmonus on him. ”
Again, I'll say that in his trial there was more than enough reasonable doubt to find him not guilty. While I do suspect he may have done it (or something along those lines), the family that filed the charges had a history of filing phony lawsuits and once even attempted extortion. They had been caught lying in court in the past. They were dishonest people who could not be trusted. Therefore, I leave these charges with a big question mark as I am 100% sure I cannot trust the family's testimony.
If you don't KNOW what really happened, how can you make a rational decision in your own mind about his guilt or innocence? On suspicion, I would never have left my kids with him.... but again... that is only because of my own speculation, not a factual basis.
The FACTS that I do know are that he he provided music for a few generations of kids that was not sexually charged, or racially charged like it is today. His shows did not involve half-naked women prancing around on stage either. The money he raised or donated himself for kids charities, building schools in impoverished countries, and to fight poverty all over the world is almost unmatched. Part of the reason he was nearly broke is because he would never go back on his commitments to the charities he loved so much.
If the only thing you know about this man was what you read in the tabloids... try looking deeper and realizing all the chesed this man did as well.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM Anonymous Says:
“ I do not understand why he called us like the fruit they serve in Chinese restaurants. How is that an insult?.
”
Leech and leeches are two different thing nut, Leeches are a fruit, Leech is a blood sucking worm
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Jun 26, 2009 at 11:45 AM zev Says:
“ What world do you live in that you assume that no bochurim watch TV? ”
It only takes one bochur to see the video and then teach the moves to others and so on.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 11:40 AM Anonymous Says:
“ #111.. do you also have a guilty concience? ”
I have done nothing to feel guilty for. But I am curious as to what you think I should feel guilty about.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM phoenixyid Says:
jews always beltch and argue....bottom line he was a great musician and most of us bocherim included know escaxtly who he is..his music totally rocks. yup he's had lots of issues ..like so many others us included...put a lid on it ....some of u sound so pitiful..gshabbos to all.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM moishe Says:
Since Michael Jackson was 90% plastic he will be melted down and made into Lego blocks so little kids can play with him for a change.
When Farrah Fawcett died she went to heaven and god gave her one wish. She wished that all children would be safe forever, so God killed Michael Jackson
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Jun 26, 2009 at 12:17 PM midwest Says:
The man was great at what he did. Much like Babe Ruth, John lennon...The lists goes on and on of entertainers here in the United States. They created entertainment that we were able to take out what we wanted. Enjoy is music..great. Like his dancing...enjoy. Dont enjoy his music...move on then. He didnt effect us on how we are able to live our lives. He wasnt a ruler, dictator, policy maker or the like. What he did didnt effect me or anyone I know. Yes, it might effect those boys who were invited to sleep over..but thats not the discussion. But why the great simcha?? He died..Fine. We got to enjoy his work while he was here. He was an American Icon. But he didnt hurt Jews. Didnt kill anybody. Didnt even have lyrics in his albums that would cause us harm. "is he black or white?" That i dont know, but he was interesting to observe and certainly not a reason to celebrate in his death like Haman.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 12:21 PM Anonymous Says:
“ MJ was found not guilty in his crimal trial. The fact is that there was PLENTY of reasonable doubt (ie. the mom likes to sue grocery stores for fake-falling and such). I do believe that he probably did do these things, but I cannot know for sure. He was not caught red-handed. That is my only point. What this has to do with bochurim in Japan who were caught red-handed committing an international crime is well beyond me... it's like comparing apples and Buicks. ”
they were not found to have known it was drugs you kept speculating that they knew it was drugs without giving them any benefit of the doubt
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Jun 26, 2009 at 12:33 PM Raphael Kaufman Says:
“ #92 ...reform, conservative ,christian (the first reform movement) etc (if you feel shomrei torah umitzvos, aka chareidi, are not better your entitled to your opinion, even though its against the facts). why is it hate when one points out to certain groups who are oiver quite a few mitzvos, because they dont ascriber to it ,as hate . if you have a complex then dont desecrate the torah. i havent see a shomer torah to complain hate for not shomer torah, just pointing out what they are oiver ”
"Shomer Torah u mitzvos" and "Chareidi" are not synonymous.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 12:32 PM Anonymous Says:
His kids are Jewish, and not orphaned... they'll live with their mother now I'm sure. My teenager told me that they won't bury him, he's had so much plastic surgery he'll be recycled!
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Jun 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM Anonymous Says:
the reason people think he did what he was accused of becqause he said that he lets kids sleep in his room on his bed,but he said it in the context of a sleepover,like when a group of kids all go to a friends house and hang out and sleep over,thats what He said watch the interviews on youtube,if you really care,obviously its wrong for an adult to have child friends and have them sleep over,but we are talking about mJ who was basically an adult child by his own admission,but he wouldnt hurt a fly it wasnt in his nature,he was framed and taken advantage of,he did everything for the family that accused paid for his medical bills gave them money,and the turned around and stabbed him in the back,people should do research before the curse someone out...
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Jun 26, 2009 at 02:20 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Lt. Fred Corral of the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office said an autopsy would probably be done on the singer Friday, with results expected that afternoon.
"Michael Jackson made culture accept a person of color," the Rev. Al Sharpton said. "To say an 'icon' would only give these young people in Harlem a fraction of what he was. He was a historic figure that people will measure music and the industry by."
Jackson's blazing rise to stardom -- and later fall from grace -- is among the most startling of show business tales. The son of a steelworker, he rose to fame as the lead singer of the Jackson 5, a band he formed with his brothers in the late 1960s. By the late '70s, as a solo artist, he was topping the charts with cuts from "Off the Wall," including "Rock With You" and "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
”
MJ made sure that he did not have any color left. What a way to show the people of color pride?
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Jun 26, 2009 at 01:55 PM PMO Says:
“ His kids are Jewish, and not orphaned... they'll live with their mother now I'm sure. My teenager told me that they won't bury him, he's had so much plastic surgery he'll be recycled! ”
The mother gave up her parental rights. His children will be left to whomever he designated.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 01:53 PM PMO Says:
“ they were not found to have known it was drugs you kept speculating that they knew it was drugs without giving them any benefit of the doubt
”
No I didn't. You owe me an apology. I NEVER once said they knew it was drugs.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 01:37 PM Hate em Tatem Says:
“ MJ was found not guilty in his crimal trial. The fact is that there was PLENTY of reasonable doubt (ie. the mom likes to sue grocery stores for fake-falling and such). I do believe that he probably did do these things, but I cannot know for sure. He was not caught red-handed. That is my only point. What this has to do with bochurim in Japan who were caught red-handed committing an international crime is well beyond me... it's like comparing apples and Buicks. ”
“MJ was found not guilty in his criminal trial."
You made the point exactly as it should be. He was found "not guilty." Translation: not enough evidence to convict. It does not mean he was innocent, only a lack of evidence. There are some questions as to what happened but his bizarre actions raise doubts and points to the fact that he acted like an M.
You also made the point in your first blog how he was a "tortured soul." Go to a state prison and you will meet many tortured souls. People who have gone through difficult lives are not excused from acting improperly. Hitler YM"S was abused by his father and may have had a Jewish grandfather. So what? Hitler will rot in hell. MJ may have gone through much difficulty in his life, but his actions and anti-semitism stick out like a sore thumb.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 01:27 PM Anonymous Says:
Who are all of you to judge and criticize as if you have any clue what life was like for this extraordinary talent from a young age and also abused and exploited from that same age! May he rest in peace!
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Jun 26, 2009 at 03:45 PM PMO Says:
“ “MJ was found not guilty in his criminal trial."
You made the point exactly as it should be. He was found "not guilty." Translation: not enough evidence to convict. It does not mean he was innocent, only a lack of evidence. There are some questions as to what happened but his bizarre actions raise doubts and points to the fact that he acted like an M.
You also made the point in your first blog how he was a "tortured soul." Go to a state prison and you will meet many tortured souls. People who have gone through difficult lives are not excused from acting improperly. Hitler YM"S was abused by his father and may have had a Jewish grandfather. So what? Hitler will rot in hell. MJ may have gone through much difficulty in his life, but his actions and anti-semitism stick out like a sore thumb. ”
Your point are well taken. Which is why I clearly said that I DO think he may have done some of those things, but I have no evidence of it, and certainly little to no proof other than the testimony of known fraudsters was presented at the trial. Essentially, I have said "I DON'T KNOW".... and neither do you.
Secondly, your next statement is just foolish as it already assumes his guilt as FACT.... which it is NOT. He was horribly used and abused by people throughout his entire life. These "actions" of his that you are relying on for your argument are purely speculative you have no facts or evidence to prove he did them.... neither did the prosecutors. So to compare him to convicted criminals is nothing more than an unsubstantiated smear.
Third, this "antisemitism" as you call it, was non-existent. How many times do you hear yidden say things like "the shvartzes are ruining the neighborhood".... or they call the use of foul language "loshon shvartz". Are all of these people racists? We know that most are not. Michael Jackson had huge sums of money swindled from him by people who happened to be JEWS. His statement was directed at THEM. Sometimes, one must look at the context of a statement to see the genuine sentiment behind it. I am pretty confident on this as there are no other records of him making antisemitic comments. The issue of the song lyrics was so stupid I can't believe anyone gave in on it. It was supposed to be MOCKING racism and antisemitism... but of course, the PC liberals had to stand up and scream.
So for all the unproven speculation about Michael Jackson, everyone will just cast aside the tens of millions of dollars he gave to and raised for charities (including Jewish charities in NY and EY) all over the world. On pure speculation everyone here is ready to just throw his life aside as some kind of joke and mock him in his death. You should all be proud of yourselves. Nothing like good old-fashioned gossip and lies to fuel a debate erev shabbos.
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Jun 27, 2009 at 03:54 PM Anonymous Says:
“ the reason people think he did what he was accused of becqause he said that he lets kids sleep in his room on his bed,but he said it in the context of a sleepover,like when a group of kids all go to a friends house and hang out and sleep over,thats what He said watch the interviews on youtube,if you really care,obviously its wrong for an adult to have child friends and have them sleep over,but we are talking about mJ who was basically an adult child by his own admission,but he wouldnt hurt a fly it wasnt in his nature,he was framed and taken advantage of,he did everything for the family that accused paid for his medical bills gave them money,and the turned around and stabbed him in the back,people should do research before the curse someone out... ”
HE was photographed dangling a child over a balcony. A nut with no control who could have been harmful.
And not a topic of discussion for frume Yidden.
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Jun 27, 2009 at 07:12 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Leech and leeches are two different thing nut, Leeches are a fruit, Leech is a blood sucking worm ”
Wrong, leech and leeches is the same thing. The fruit is lychee.
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Jun 27, 2009 at 11:17 PM Anonymous Says:
the song was they dont care about us and its talking about how the world doesnt care about the minorities the smaller groups and he used those lyrics to SUPPORT jews he basically said call me a jew etc. and i dont care im proud of it, he was always a friend of the jews and its a disgrace that he should be called an anti-semite on the days after he died.
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Jun 29, 2009 at 09:14 PM Anonymous Says:
“ “MJ was found not guilty in his criminal trial."
You made the point exactly as it should be. He was found "not guilty." Translation: not enough evidence to convict. It does not mean he was innocent, only a lack of evidence. There are some questions as to what happened but his bizarre actions raise doubts and points to the fact that he acted like an M.
You also made the point in your first blog how he was a "tortured soul." Go to a state prison and you will meet many tortured souls. People who have gone through difficult lives are not excused from acting improperly. Hitler YM"S was abused by his father and may have had a Jewish grandfather. So what? Hitler will rot in hell. MJ may have gone through much difficulty in his life, but his actions and anti-semitism stick out like a sore thumb. ”
What anti semitism? only a few years ago he joined in simchas torah hakofes at the carelbach shul and shabbos mincha at the stanton st synagogue.
he was a good friend to yidden!
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Jun 29, 2009 at 09:13 PM Anonymous Says:
“ MJ made sure that he did not have any color left. What a way to show the people of color pride? ”
He had a severe skin pigmentation desease called Vitiglio
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Jun 29, 2009 at 11:49 PM billy Says:
i wish more people would comment on jackson's claim of many jews in the industry conspiring to swindle money from him because i hate to say it, i think there is something to his statements.........
supposedly somebody leaked a tell-all to jackson about how former advisers were trying to force him to go bankrupt...dieder wiesner and a partner (both jewish) were mentioned.......the father of the boy he supposedly molested was a jewish dentist in beverly hills...the mother wasn't and actually defended jackson (this was never advertised in the media)......one of jackson's lawyers it was later found out was working for sony while representing jackson (this was the guy that owned the porn ring - i forget his name but he was jewish too).....tommy matolla, head of a division at sony cancelled all marketing of invincible in 2001 after jackson told him he wasn't renewing his contract (matolla is jewish too).....and what's worse is abc, nbc, and cbs and the ny times and the tabloids didn't even report or emphasize any of this and well, i hate to state the obvious but almost all of those media outlets have a massive jewish ownership.......my views are not motivated by anti-semitism but if you follow a timeline, there are some very coincidental events that happened at very convenient times......the fall of mjjproductions (which you can't get virtually any information on) is another suspicious event.........
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Jun 30, 2009 at 03:06 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Wow, it is amazing how ignorant people are! His ex-wife was white!!! Please open a biology book to the section on genetics! ”
So Mr genetics, who was right? Jacko is NOT their father, it's white skinned Mr Klein, his dermatologist. Check it out on VIN June 30th.