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Last updated on: Jun 26, 2009 at 04:44 PM
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Although Photographers were warned not to take pictures here is one Photo by Gil Yohanan
Some 150 haredi men gathered near the disputed Karta parking lot and held a quiet prayer in the area.
Most of the protestors gathered between the Ohaley Yosef and Avinadav Junctions, which are some 100 meters (328 feet) apart, chanting "Shabes". A sign reading "Keep and remember the holy Shabbat" was placed near the protestors.
At a certain stage, protestors began running towards the television photographers and reporters, crying out, "The desecrater will be put to death."
As the journalists escaped, the crowd spat and them and knocked on the windows of their vehicles. Police forces removed the protestors from the area.
The rally was held in protest of "the war declared by Jerusalem's mayor on the holy Shabbat."
The Jerusalem Police reinforced their forces in the capital for fear that the rally would turn violent.
"We estimate that there will be no violent riots," the official said, "but we are preparing for such a possibility. As long as the protest is legitimate and organized we will allow them to hold it, but the moment the riots turn violent we will show zero tolerance."
Pashkavil (wall posters) calling on the haredi public to take part in the Bar Ilan Road protest were hung in ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods. "In light of the heinous scheme of the people of Sodom to contaminate the Holy City, we will convene for a prayer and crying out rally in the presence of an enormous crowd," the posters said.
Hundreds of leaflets were distributed on the streets, pointing a finger at the Gur Hasidim for supporting Mayor Nir Barkat in the municipal elections.
Photographers warned not to take pictures
Shloimi, a haredi youth, told Ynet, "If we had a haredi mayor, Uri Lupolianski or Meir Porush, this would never had happened."
He said he had come from the Bait Vagan neighborhood in order to take part in the rally. "It took me nearly an hour to walk here, but it's important," he clarified.
Meir, another yeshiva student, told Ynet that he believed the demonstration would not turn violent, but warned that the photographers sent to the area were creating provocations and should be careful.
"We (the haredim) have not had a demonstration for a long time and have not been given the opportunity to express our feelings. If one photographer takes our picture, people won't think twice," he warned.
The prayer was held by the ultra-Orthodox community and the Committee for the Sanctity of Shabbat and received the verbal backing of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, leader of the haredi-Sephardic community, and by Rabbi Yosef Sholom Elyashiv, leader of the Lithuanian public.
Another protest is planned for Saturday evening, near the disputed Safra and parking lots. The secular public is also expected to demonstrate in the area at the same time. The police have approved the participation of 1,000 people in the rally.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 02:42 PM Anonymous Says:
VIN from where did you get these sources? you can't get it from Israeli sites as they are writing this news during Shabbos!. I allways try not to lookup Israeli news sites after shabbos starts in Israel.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 02:37 PM Anonymous Says:
I hope this doesn't turn violent. as much as the signs read KEEP AND GUARD SHABBOS so too one must guard ones identity and the jewish identity refrains from acting violent. I have no soft heart for the super to be smart ones. in the zechus of a peaceful rally may Hashem protect us and bring the geula.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 01:57 PM Shocked Says:
How can you report about a demonstrartion that is taking place on Shabbos when it is now Shabbos in Israel? By quoting YNET you are quoting a michalel Shabbos! Please be so kind as to remove this report. It is a chillul Hashem that you are assiting chillul Shabbos!
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Jun 26, 2009 at 01:29 PM Anonymous Says:
this story comes from ynet which means it was written on shabbos there isn't a bigger chillul shabbos than 2 write a article on shabbos about kovod shobbos!
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Jun 26, 2009 at 01:13 PM dovy Says:
I hope all those who blamned the religous when the protests turned violent will now commend them when the protest is peaceful.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 12:56 PM Hardi Says Says:
No matter who the mayor is Porosh or who else would do the same its an anti Torahdiga Place Against Hashems and his Torah
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Jun 26, 2009 at 05:05 PM Anonymous Says:
thans to litzman and ger
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Jun 26, 2009 at 05:02 PM get ur facts straight Says:
the protest started way before shabbos. it's very possible that all sources were quoted before shkia.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 05:19 PM Anonymous Says:
“ the protest started way before shabbos. it's very possible that all sources were quoted before shkia. ”
Who cares...this is one of the most important stories that we want to know about. The reporters are not sitting around worrying about shkia. We can read about the reports until it is lict benchin time here in the U.S.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 05:16 PM Shocked Says:
“ the protest started way before shabbos. it's very possible that all sources were quoted before shkia. ”
Updated at 4:44 NYC time which is 11:444 Jerusalem time? This 2was defnitely on Shabbos!
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Jun 26, 2009 at 05:03 PM Anonymous Says:
I'm not sure this article in ynet was posted shabbas. maybe it started before the zman of shabbas
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Jun 26, 2009 at 05:00 PM Anonymous Says:
Hadn't it occured to anyone yet that by protesting they are directly causing the Yiddishe police people and the journalists to be Mechalel Shabbos? Since this protest causes Chilul Shabbos DIRECTLY b/c of them, these people should think long & hard before setting up the protest. After all, the parking lot being open isn't caused directly by them. If they feel that protesting is the correct thing to do, shouln't they protest during the week instead of Shabbos?
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Jun 26, 2009 at 04:57 PM Anonymous Says:
“ this story comes from ynet which means it was written on shabbos there isn't a bigger chillul shabbos than 2 write a article on shabbos about kovod shobbos! ”
Stop trying to censor VIN/; who cares where they got the story from. This is breaking news and most of us want to know what is happening in EY. No one is forcing you to read it.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 04:45 PM Anonymous Says:
The irony is that by protesting they're causing more chillul shabbos because of the greater police force and photographers/reporters on the scene.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 04:32 PM Astonished Says:
Updated at 4:44 pm. This is updated with news from Shabbos in Israel. How can you do this? How can you publish pictures taken on Shabbos by Gil Yohanan a Jew?!?
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Jun 26, 2009 at 04:23 PM Raphael Kaufman Says:
“ How can you report about a demonstrartion that is taking place on Shabbos when it is now Shabbos in Israel? By quoting YNET you are quoting a michalel Shabbos! Please be so kind as to remove this report. It is a chillul Hashem that you are assiting chillul Shabbos! ”
Based on the photo, it would appear that the demonstration began well before shekiah as did the filing of the report. The fact that the story was posted in New York after Shabbos fell in E.Y. involves no chillul Shabbos.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 04:00 PM Anonymous Says:
“ VIN from where did you get these sources? you can't get it from Israeli sites as they are writing this news during Shabbos!. I allways try not to lookup Israeli news sites after shabbos starts in Israel. ”
whether it was written on shabbos or not does not take away from the true news . do you throw away mail that is delivered to you on shabbos because of possible chi;;ul shabbos . get your head out of your sand box and wake up
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Jun 26, 2009 at 03:48 PM PMO Says:
“ this story comes from ynet which means it was written on shabbos there isn't a bigger chillul shabbos than 2 write a article on shabbos about kovod shobbos! ”
This may have been a goyishe writer.... you don't know.... ask first before your throw out accusations.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 03:47 PM Cant take it Says:
The demonstrations are a great way to make the non-frum despise Torah.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 03:37 PM Anonymous Says:
“ How can you report about a demonstrartion that is taking place on Shabbos when it is now Shabbos in Israel? By quoting YNET you are quoting a michalel Shabbos! Please be so kind as to remove this report. It is a chillul Hashem that you are assiting chillul Shabbos! ”
Every day you have millions of Jews in Israel who go to work and are not violent do you ever say oh gooodde no you don’t, therefore, if 10,000 people are not violent in a protest, I am not going to make it into a big deal.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 03:35 PM AP isn't jewish Says:
“ How can you report about a demonstrartion that is taking place on Shabbos when it is now Shabbos in Israel? By quoting YNET you are quoting a michalel Shabbos! Please be so kind as to remove this report. It is a chillul Hashem that you are assiting chillul Shabbos! ”
The Ap reported this and a lot of their reporters are Arabs. (which is why it's sometimes skewed)
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Jun 26, 2009 at 03:34 PM Anonymous Says:
The demonstrations in J'lem ended peacefully without any outstanding violence.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 03:15 PM Puzzled Says:
By having thes massive protests on Shabbos, the protesters are causing hundreds of Jewish police as well as news reporters to be mechallel shabbos. Many of them would not be on duty and others would be doing less!
This especially true if when they get violent. If they were always peaceful, they could have the protests and much fewer police would be used and there would be much less chillul shabbos.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 03:10 PM Anonymous Says:
“ VIN from where did you get these sources? you can't get it from Israeli sites as they are writing this news during Shabbos!. I allways try not to lookup Israeli news sites after shabbos starts in Israel. ”
Shabbat Goy
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Jun 26, 2009 at 03:07 PM Chilul Shabbos Says:
Why are you insisting on quoting mechalelei Shabbos? The only way you could get this news is by accessing news that was transmitted on Shabbos.
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Jun 26, 2009 at 06:25 PM Anonymous Says:
What does this story have to do with michael Jackson?
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Jun 26, 2009 at 05:53 PM Anonymous Says:
At a certain stage, protestors began running towards the television photographers and reporters, crying out, "The desecrater will be put to death."
Wow and they are worrying about chilul shabbos? This is why their rabbonim should be smarter and not make such a big deal about this parking lot. Teach these people to be menchin
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Jun 27, 2009 at 03:45 PM I was there Says:
I watched the prayer rally at Bar Illan Friday Night. I live not too far and went there to observe.
The rally was peaceful, in spite of a handful few bored Hareidi youths seeking action. Those attention whores did attack a few reporters who stepped too close to the rally, but reporters in Chareidi areas on Shabbat should know better than flaunting their cameras and recording devices at the faces of Shabbat keepers.
The rally itself numbered at least 40,000 people, though (not all at once; they were organised in small groups, each group holding its own prayers, according to its own melodies, customs etc., and when i was there, many were already leaving, having finished their prayers, while others were just arriving).
Of those estimated 40,000, maybe only 20 engaged in so-called violence, and even they were relatively tame, compared e.g. with the Na`alin and Bile`in protesters.
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Jun 27, 2009 at 03:19 PM Anonymous Says:
Om shabbat at 5pm there was another hafgana on mea sharim! This was the biggest chilul hashem. Throwing watermelons eggplant rocks ... 25 ppl arrested in front of my face. Is this the way jews r soposed to behave? I reakky hope the chelonim make a rally about this! I was tramitized!
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Jun 27, 2009 at 02:18 PM yaleh koleinu Says:
The protest was huge! It was the entire kvish of bar ilan until shmuel hanavi. The reporters were after the intersection of bar ilan and shmuel hanavi and the women. There were some protestors hanging around there to make sure nobody came into the davening area and they did scream at the camera men, but only once shabbos started. Camera men were around before shabbos and most likely the above picture was taken at that time. I don't see how any photographer could have gotten this close once davening started. There was singing and dancing for a few hours. Sefardim, chasidim, yeshivah guys and even a man dressed in white top to bottom with a big white beard were davening all together. There was no violence other than a few kids messing with rocks that fell on some people. Hatzolah was there but it didn't seem like anything major. The "event" ended and everyone went home. A perfect protest!police had no issues and the area was sectioned off correctly.
Today, was a whole notha story my brothas'
Today kids were on patrol all afternoon stopping any car with baracades and garbage dumpsters. Drivers came out of their cars and chased kids away only to get back in their car and be blocked again. One older gentelman wouldnt let the car move the gates until police showed up.
Fyi, these cars have other ways of getting to their destinations and do not need to drive through these chareidi neighborhoods. They do it with intention of ignighting fighting and look forward to the violence. One car even honked for about 5 min trying to attract kids but the kids were too busy learning to come out.
It takes 2 to fight but the mechalilei shabbos are the ignighters of the violence and they love every moment of it.
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Jun 27, 2009 at 01:54 PM Was There Says:
i was there and it was a kiddush shem shamayim. It's amazing that a couple of the post sound like they are written by anti frum. You know, in my religion we have Rabbi's that tell us what to do- we listen to them. If your rabbi tells you something else, then you listen to him. Don't attack the other.
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Jun 27, 2009 at 09:06 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Hadn't it occured to anyone yet that by protesting they are directly causing the Yiddishe police people and the journalists to be Mechalel Shabbos? Since this protest causes Chilul Shabbos DIRECTLY b/c of them, these people should think long & hard before setting up the protest. After all, the parking lot being open isn't caused directly by them. If they feel that protesting is the correct thing to do, shouln't they protest during the week instead of Shabbos? ”
Smart one! It's the biggest of our gedolim that said it's a MITZVAH to go protest. I assume they would realize that the police and journalists will be there too,wouldn't you?
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Jun 27, 2009 at 08:44 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Om shabbat at 5pm there was another hafgana on mea sharim! This was the biggest chilul hashem. Throwing watermelons eggplant rocks ... 25 ppl arrested in front of my face. Is this the way jews r soposed to behave? I reakky hope the chelonim make a rally about this! I was tramitized! ”
The Rabbis who sanctioned today’s protests should be held liable too; there is enough case law to support fining parents / guardian, Rabbis and anybody who participated in the protests, regardless if they behaved. Otherwise you will Millhouse around
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Jun 27, 2009 at 09:47 PM Anonymous Says:
“ thans to litzman and ger ”
who was Mayor when there was a gay parade
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Jun 27, 2009 at 11:41 PM Milhouse Says:
“ who was Mayor when there was a gay parade ”
1. What choice did he have? 2. The city did not organize it. 3. What avera did the paraders do? Driving on Shabos is an avera. Marching for civil rights for baalei avera is not itself an avera.
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Jun 27, 2009 at 11:40 PM Milhouse Says:
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The Rabbis who sanctioned today’s protests should be held liable too; there is enough case law to support fining parents / guardian, Rabbis and anybody who participated in the protests, regardless if they behaved. Otherwise you will Millhouse around
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Get lost, sheigetz.
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Jun 27, 2009 at 11:37 PM Milhouse Says:
“ At a certain stage, protestors began running towards the television photographers and reporters, crying out, "The desecrater will be put to death."
Wow and they are worrying about chilul shabbos? This is why their rabbonim should be smarter and not make such a big deal about this parking lot. Teach these people to be menchin
”
What's wrong with this? Do you not agree that chilul shabbos is a capital crime, worse than murder?
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Jun 27, 2009 at 11:36 PM Milhouse Says:
“ By having thes massive protests on Shabbos, the protesters are causing hundreds of Jewish police as well as news reporters to be mechallel shabbos. Many of them would not be on duty and others would be doing less!
This especially true if when they get violent. If they were always peaceful, they could have the protests and much fewer police would be used and there would be much less chillul shabbos. ”
They only get violent when the police deliberately provoke violence. And nobody is causing the police to do anything; it's their free choice, and only they are responsible for it.
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Jun 27, 2009 at 11:33 PM Milhouse Says:
“ The demonstrations are a great way to make the non-frum despise Torah. ”
Aha. So it's not violence that bothers you, but the demonstrations themselves. So don't come back pretending that the thousands of peaceful protesters don't bother you, and it's only the handful of hooligans that you object to. Because here we see you objecting to a peaceful demonstration openly supported by all the gedolim. So what is your objection?
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Jun 27, 2009 at 11:30 PM Milhouse Says:
“ whether it was written on shabbos or not does not take away from the true news . do you throw away mail that is delivered to you on shabbos because of possible chi;;ul shabbos . get your head out of your sand box and wake up ”
If a letter was delivered by means of chilul shabbos, you may not read it until after shabbos. You may not benefit from someone else's chilul shabbos.
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Jun 27, 2009 at 11:24 PM Milhouse Says:
“ Stop trying to censor VIN/; who cares where they got the story from. This is breaking news and most of us want to know what is happening in EY. No one is forcing you to read it. ”
So you want to know. The question is whether you have the right to benefit from other yidden's chilul shabbos.
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Jun 27, 2009 at 11:20 PM Milhouse Says:
“ Hadn't it occured to anyone yet that by protesting they are directly causing the Yiddishe police people and the journalists to be Mechalel Shabbos? Since this protest causes Chilul Shabbos DIRECTLY b/c of them, these people should think long & hard before setting up the protest. After all, the parking lot being open isn't caused directly by them. If they feel that protesting is the correct thing to do, shouln't they protest during the week instead of Shabbos? ”
They are not causing anything. Those resho'im CHOOSE to break shabbos. They are not robots who act automatically, so the demonstrators are not responsible for their choices.
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Jun 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Get lost, sheigetz. ”
real mature and convincing
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Jun 28, 2009 at 11:00 AM Anonymous Says:
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I watched the prayer rally at Bar Illan Friday Night. I live not too far and went there to observe.
The rally was peaceful, in spite of a handful few bored Hareidi youths seeking action. Those attention whores did attack a few reporters who stepped too close to the rally, but reporters in Chareidi areas on Shabbat should know better than flaunting their cameras and recording devices at the faces of Shabbat keepers.
The rally itself numbered at least 40,000 people, though (not all at once; they were organised in small groups, each group holding its own prayers, according to its own melodies, customs etc., and when i was there, many were already leaving, having finished their prayers, while others were just arriving).
Of those estimated 40,000, maybe only 20 engaged in so-called violence, and even they were relatively tame, compared e.g. with the Na`alin and Bile`in protesters.
”
with over a million people at woodstock there wasnt even one act of violence.
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Jun 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM Anonymous Says:
“ I hope all those who blamned the religous when the protests turned violent will now commend them when the protest is peaceful. ”
well since it wasnt peaceful we see they were justified
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Jun 28, 2009 at 03:25 PM Milhouse Says:
“ well since it wasnt peaceful we see they were justified ”
Yes, it was peaceful.
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Jun 28, 2009 at 03:24 PM Milhouse Says:
“ with over a million people at woodstock there wasnt even one act of violence. ”
What "over a million"? There weren't even half a million. And most of those were so stoned they could barely stand up, let alone hurt anyone. But you'd have to be stupid to think there was no violence at all. For such a large crowd it's remarkable how little violence there was, but there was surely some.
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Jun 28, 2009 at 03:07 PM Milhouse Says:
“ real mature and convincing ”
There's nothing more to be said to a sheigetz like commenter #33.