Borough Park, NY – Orthodox Community Going Sushi Meshuga

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    Borough Park, NY – Challah and Kugel for Shabbat dinner is so yesterday.
    Orthodox Jewish residents in Borough Park have caught on to a new trend – sushi!

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    Two new sushi restaurants have opened in the heart of the ultra-Orthodox community in the past few months, while other restaurants across the neighborhood have put in sushi bars.

    “It’s a new thing here,” a Sushi K Bar manager said. “We have Shabatt sushi platters in different sizes. They’re really popular. Some people are addicted.

    The 16th Avenue sushi spot has gotten so popular that it’s open seven days a week. Most nights, it’s open until 2 a.m. “We have tuna, salmon and kani – imitation crab,” specified the manager, hinting at the no-shellfish kosher rule.

    Meanwhile Sushi Meshuga has also been raking in fish-starved fans on 13th Avenue.


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    “It’s a new thing here,” a Sushi K Bar manager said. “We have Shabatt sushi platters in different sizes. They’re really popular. “

    These shabbos platters not only are a much healthier alternative to chulent, brisket and kugel, its also a way of showing kovod for shabbos by eating foods that are more elegant, expensive and unusual from the old eastern european standards. Hopefully, one of the big rabbonim will serve sushi at his tisch on motzei shabbos and the concept will really take off.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    men miz zich unfressen mit alle taaves

    antisushi
    antisushi
    14 years ago

    Its all very nice that people are supporting jewish people but what’s the whole tantrum???
    Sushi is mosltly common eaten raw don’t we have kitchens?
    Hope you people find abit of common sense and start eating normal food

    kingsley the chuchem
    kingsley the chuchem
    14 years ago

    Voos faar a taam hutt shabbos mit chinezishe essin! We should be goizer like the things the yeedin didn’t change in mitzrayim leshoynom, begodimm etc, that Shabbos
    it’s ossur tzu fressin dee goyishe eesin.. Make sure that Havdoloh is on Prune juice from being farshtopped from the rice!

    Aryeh
    Aryeh
    14 years ago

    what do they mean “open seven days a week”?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    its great that b.p finally caught up!its delish and can also be very healthy!!!!i.e brown rice and unfried varieties!!!

    Cadd9
    Cadd9
    14 years ago

    I personally find the price obscene.
    I truly don’t understand how people spend $45+ on a platter that can barely feed four.
    Do people really have that amount of expendable income? With tuition at $500-600 a child per month?
    Someone please explain Charedi Economics 101 to me.
    My wife and I have a combined income of over 200K with six kids and I clearly cannot afford sushi even once a week.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Perhaps instead of being open on Shabbos, they open up right after making Havdala and they keep the business open till 2:00 a.m.

    There are many stores that have late nights and Thursdays is one of those days that they’re open at night till 2:00 A.M. as well

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    There is a problem with the kashrus in the preparation of sushi. The raw fish, rice or vegies are wrapped in seaweed to hold it together. The seaweed in the ocean absorbs oils and body sweat emitted from other fish including non kosher varieties such as whale and lobster. This was reported in a recent issue of a national biological journal in regard to people with alergic reactions developed after consuming sushi. Ergo when eating sushi you are also eating extractions of fish prohibited by jewish law. The mashgichim are not checking for this and allowing the cosumption of treif.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Just so you know, there exist Chinese Jews, Japanese Jews, Thai Jews, French Jews, Italian Jews, Mexican Jews — so those cuisines ARE what a Yid eats!

    eat lox not raw sushi
    eat lox not raw sushi
    14 years ago

    There is a principal in food preparation that cooking at the right temperature kills most bacteria and viri. The safety is not absolute, food can get recontaminated and still must be stored very cold or very hot.
    I will not join the hordes eating raw fish. The possibility of picking up a parasite are great and diagnosis and tx are not absolutely reliable.
    I even avoid sushi that contains no raw fish because they often prepare it with the same equipment.
    I do use lox on Shaboss to be yotzei Basar vDagim, I am not sure there is anything wrong wth this.

    HolyMoe
    HolyMoe
    14 years ago

    A question to the Talmidei Chachomim out there.

    Bishul Akum only goes on on something that can not be eaten raw.

    Now that we have sushi, does that mean that Bishul Akum no longer applies to the types of fishes that are used in sushi?

    What do you think?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Sushi may not be so healthy though. First of all, tuna has a high mercury content. Raw fish might have parasites, especially if it is not prepared by someone who is very experienced and more likely to spot parasites.

    One can make a healthy low fat version of chulent. It doesn’t have to be unhealthy and high in saturated fat. Beans and potatoes are healthy. One could make a vegetarian chulent and leave out the meat, or perhaps use seitan which is a high protein meat substitute in place of the meat. One could make a low fat vegetable kugle.

    Eastern European foods are not Jewish foods. Ask Sefardim if those foods are Jewish foods. Eastern European foods tend to be high in fat and unhealthy. It is nice that foods from other areas are becoming more popular with the frum. My favorite is vegetarian Indian food. The spices used in Indian and Chinese foods have great health benefits.

    Kingsley the Chuchem
    Kingsley the Chuchem
    14 years ago

    #11 eer zolt zein gebentschened!! U have values!!! I have friends who were major earners for major corporations and now are embarrassed and eat bread and margarine due to the downsizing and bankruptcy of their companies.
    A besser mitzvah would be to send to Tomche shabbos or similar at this trying time. Ask Yeshivas which parent could use help.
    Everything is ok but in moderation. #11 u are a special family!

    A YID FIN DER HEIM
    A YID FIN DER HEIM
    14 years ago

    Its a bisha and a charpa that yiden who their zadys and babis had mesires nefesh for a kitzoi shel yid and every haluche in shilchun urech should eat these asian food, i dont understand how can you take it in to your mouth and especially a chasidishe yid with shtramel and bekitshe, its mamesh fres lshem fres, i wonder if the chinese or korean eat hungerian food too like chulent and kishke, are we really so crazy ? i can only say “its moshiach tzeiten” !

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    It’s called mesorah. Our fathers didn’t eat sushi on Shabbos. For all those bashing the cholent, you can make it healthy and low fat. Don’t be lazy. Not to mention beans are cheap. Why is it that we are kvetching we have no money but the men are still fressing like it’s free and the women think their baby needs matching socks to every outfit in different colors.

    Whatever, I won’t touch the sushi- more for you!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    They probably open the store on Saturday about 10:15 P.M.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    There are kosher restaurants that are owned by non Jews and therefore don’t need to close for shabbat.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    “There is a problem with the kashrus in the preparation of sushi. The raw fish, rice or vegies are wrapped in seaweed to hold it together. The seaweed in the ocean absorbs oils and body sweat emitted from other fish including non kosher varieties such as whale and lobster. This was reported in a recent issue of a national biological journal in regard to people with alergic reactions developed after consuming sushi. Ergo when eating sushi you are also eating extractions of fish prohibited by jewish law. The mashgichim are not checking for this and allowing the cosumption of treif.”

    Huh? Where did you get that idea? I have never seen any reliable source claim that seaweed is not kosher. Seaweed may contain arsenic or other toxic heavy metals though.Fish cooked whole is a problem. Fish should be cleaned before it is cooked, as the fish likely ate unkosher fish.

    kol hamerbeh harei ze meshubach
    kol hamerbeh harei ze meshubach
    14 years ago

    i’ll tak shmaltz herring or a good shtikel mattches any day. and i’ll have sushi with my keegel,chulent,ptcha, farfel, and kishka and kasha too. it important to be yotzei kol hadeios. according to my cardiologist. universal healthcare all the way!!

    Kingsley to #35 Satmar
    Kingsley to #35 Satmar
    14 years ago

    In defense of your comments to #11 — u are totally wrong. If the person pays taxes and pays schar limud (NOT WILLIAMSBURG CHASSIDISHE LOW RATES) and camps and has kinne hora a lot of children it doesn’t leave much with no Section 8,
    food stamps and other public assistance programs. Unfortunately, frum families working on the books with large mishpochos are worse off than people in American society on public assistance programs in the US.

    rabbi stern
    rabbi stern
    14 years ago

    Attention everyone!!
    “You are what you eat”
    Eat and boost the goyishe machulim and become goish yourself.
    Than go to the beis hamedresh and prey that your kids should grow up to be ehrliche frum yiddishe kinder.

    FINAL VERDICT IS IN!!!!
    FINAL VERDICT IS IN!!!!
    14 years ago

    HEY CAN I PUT MY TWO CENTS IN WITH THE SMARTEST COMMENT OF THE NIGHT!!!

    sushi is delicious – healthy – and fun (i personally dont like raw fish so I stick to the cooked version which is fine)

    If you wanna be hooked then try the Tuna Pizza Roll with
    Fried Pizza Rice, Crunch, Spicy Tuna Seared, Avocado And Onions On Top

    I am so hooked to this that I may need an addiction clinic to help me wean off it – Good luck to all the sushi places and just by the way SUSHIKBAR is not open motzei shabbos or sunday in boro park during the summer.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    10 years ago no one ate tomato dip chumus tehina olive peper salad and what not.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Picture: Aw you made that just for me! I’ll take it to go =)

    PMO
    PMO
    14 years ago

    I can’t believe such small-minded, self-centered people post here.

    1. There are yidden all over the world who eat all kinds of foods. In Asia (where there are plenty of frum yidden) they have been eating sushi for hundreds (if not thousands) of years. Should those yidden stop eating it and start buying rolls of frozen gefilte fish? Such stupidity. Sefardim don’t eat it either. Are they apikorsim for not eating gefilte fish?

    2. Sushi is VERY healthy. Tuna and salmon are both good for your heart. As for any contamination fears, the types of fish used are usually those that are very resistant to bacteria (salmon, tuna, etc), and are stored in a very sanitary manner.

    3. If you all don’t want it… we’d be happy to have someone open up a sushi bar in my neighborhood!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t good old herring eaten raw as well? Yes sushi is relatively new on the Jewish scene, but it’s not the first time in history Yidden eat raw fish. Ok, herring is marinated longer, but sushi is also salted an/ or marinated prior to serving. At least the recipes I looked up.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Did you ever hear the expression, “Biz a hundert un tzvantig”. well guess what, Hashem has made only one country where that wish often is reality: Japan. do you know better than the ebeshter what to eat??

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Who eats sushi on shabbos ? Milah Toiamahoo dis hot doch de heilige rabi gezoogt ober sushi ?nu zol zein sushi the ikor lekooved shabos ..ahh ahhh

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Who eats sushi on shabbos ? Milah Toiamahoo dis hot doch de heilige rabi gezoogt ober sushi ?nu zol zein sushi the ikor lekooved shabos ..ahh ahhh

    me
    me
    14 years ago

    Hayom omar kach, vilimochar kack, od she’omar lo……

    clever
    clever
    14 years ago

    rather pay ur grocery bill then eat raw junk.. its good 2b mshige, but mit a moos… I still remember when pizza was the hot item (if u know what “pizza” means…lol)

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    This is the food of pagans. And to eat it on Shabbos? phee.

    BTW, day old sushi is not vrery good for you.

    yehudala
    yehudala
    14 years ago

    Sad 69 comments on sushi that made me sick for a day will never do that again

    Liepa
    Liepa
    14 years ago

    Mi sh’oichel dag b’yoim dag nitzil m’dag. (dag be’gematria 7) In other words, whoever eats (dag) fish on (dag = 7) shabbos will be saved from dag (dag acronym for ‘dinei gehanom’).

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Did they eat sushi in Fiddler on the Roof?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    After reading through 80 posts where one yid is not calling another an am’horetz, an apikores, saying he will burn in genenom, or his children must be mamzerim, or bashing the rabbonim its sort of nice to have an article like this now and then. I also learned to check with the mashgiach at the sushi bar to make sure that the sweat glands were properly removed from the yellowtail prior to shechita.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    I think the bishul akum rule is waived by what chazal call “chai” I.e. vegs,fruits & so on,not a generally cooked food that someone thought of eating raw.(I only think so don’t kill me!!) Please!!

    TO #83
    TO #83
    14 years ago

    HEY 83!

    your actual 200 K are fake, in reality you are not mking any real money, balance 0
    you r paying to much in taxes, check it out, deducting tuitions directly,etc
    10 k in shoes, drycleaning, too much, also too muck tzedaka, you can deduct tuitons from kids 6 yaers old and up,it is a luxury for your money the summer camps,too much medical,dental,
    if you are smart, move to KY and you are millionaire

    LeahGG
    LeahGG
    14 years ago

    I personally avoid sushi on Shabbos as it’s best eaten fresh, but I believe that the KB”H wants us to enjoy all the good of this world, and tasting and enjoying different foods, as long as they’re kosher, is a part of that. I also highly recommend skydiving.

    Sushi For Shabos
    Sushi For Shabos
    14 years ago

    We need money for a family they need Sushi and Fleish for shabos

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    “kosher restaurant owned by goyim ? never heard of that, and kosher restaurant opened on shabbes neither.
    how can they get a teudat hakashrus in theses conditions ?”

    In NYC there are many of them. Most are vegetarian restaurants though. Many are Indian vegetarian or Chinese vegetarian. Meat kosher restaurants owned by a non Jew probably require a mashgiach to be present all the time, so theose probably wouldn’t be open on shabbat.

    NeveAliza
    NeveAliza
    14 years ago

    Just remember to break apart those Chop Sticks before Shabbos (if you’re using the cheap ones). I asked a Gadol if the sticks are considered muktsa and he told me that he himself uses a fork as a chumra.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Doesn’t the halachah say that raw fish is muktsah??

    anti raw food
    anti raw food
    14 years ago

    let me ask u if some1 gave u a raw piece of fish would u eat it?of course not!!! so y is every1 making a big deal out of something that’s even cooked???

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Eat raw fish, get a 9 FOOT tapeworm!

    NYT’s August 8, 2006
    Tale of the Tapeworm (Squeamish Readers Stop Here)
    By LARRY ZAROFF, M.D.
    This is a Jewish fish story. Or more accurately a Jewish fishworm story.
    My mother, like her mother, was an expert Jewish cook, their specialties famous in our extended family. Their secret: taste as you
    go. Season slowly until the perfect flavor comes through.
    It’s a safe technique with latkes or kreplach but not always with gefilte fish, a ground concoction of freshwater fish, spices, eggs,
    salt and matzo meal.
    My mother never became sick from tasting raw fish, but, by chance, gefilte fish turned out to be a formidable problem for my
    medical partner’s wife, Rita.
    Rita was meticulous in keeping a kosher house and enjoyed making the special Jewish dishes, including gefilte fish. An unusually
    energetic young woman, she was able to work in the garden, clean the house, cook and support her husband’s surgical practice
    without effort. But she had not been feeling well for months: abdominal symptoms of cramps, distention and occasional diarrhea,
    associated with increasing weakness, shortness of breath, lethargy and fatigue.
    Bob, her husband, was concerned enough to obtain blood work that revealed a profound anemia: her red blood cells were in short
    supply. Here was a woman, in her 40’s, who ate a normal diet and took her vitamins. She had no gastrointestinal symptoms until
    this episode and had no obvious blood loss. What could be the cause of the anemia?
    Microscopic examination of Rita’s red blood cells provided a clue. They were enlarged, with unusual structures, described as
    macrocytic. A common cause of this is pernicious anemia resulting from a shortage of vitamin B12 or folic acid, both necessary for
    the production of red blood cells. But Rita had no neurologic signs of pernicious anemia or any other systemic disease that would
    cause a lack of B12 or folate.
    Her doctors were stumped.
    Enter Dr. Earl Lipman, a close friend of Bob’s and an outstanding internist and diagnostician, who identified the culprit over the
    phone.
    Earl asked, “Does Rita make her own gefilte fish?”
    “Yes.”
    “Does she ever taste the raw fish before adding salt?” Earl continued.
    “Yes.”
    “She most likely has a fish tapeworm.”
    The fish tapeworm — a beast, stubborn as a dog with a beef bone — is reluctant to move, tightly gripping the wall of the small
    intestine with its two suction cups. The worm requires a powerful purging medicine to persuade it to leave its cozy cave and exit
    the gut into the light.
    After purging, Rita discharged a tapeworm three feet long. Examination of the worm proved Dr. Lipman correct. Diphyllobothrium
    latum, the fish tapeworm, was identified by the pathologist. Her anemia slowly went away, and her abdominal symptoms
    disappeared.
    The disease is unusual and the diagnosis can be hard to make. It was good fortune that Dr. Lipman had been a resident at Mount
    Sinai Hospital in Manhattan, where he had done research on vitamin B12.
    Rita expressed her gratitude to by presenting Dr. Lipman with a large china fish platter.
    The largest parasite of humans, the fish tapeworm — known for its length and the length of its life — is an ideal freeloader:
    compassionate, cunning, living off its host but not killing its benefactor. Often the worm causes no harm but may, as in Rita’s case,
    cause symptomatic anemia.
    In the intestine, the worm is a fierce competitor for vitamin B12. Absorbing the vitamin for its own needs, the worm deprives the
    bone marrow of a vital ingredient for making red blood cells.
    Tapeworms sometimes reach a length of 30 feet and can live up to 20 years. They have a complex life cycle; in adult form they
    attach themselves by suction cup to the small intestine of vertebrates.
    The fishworm is a compact sex machine containing both male and female sex organs sufficient to produce and release up to a
    million eggs a day.
    To survive, the eggs must reach fresh water, where they become embryos with hooks that are ingested by crustaceans. The
    crustaceans in turn are swallowed by fish. Freshwater fish like the pike and perch, major ingredients of gefilte fish, are especially
    fond of these delicacies.
    Ingested, the larvae of the worms embed themselves comfortably in the muscle fibers of the fish. When humans or other
    vertebrates swallow the raw fish, the cycle is completed.
    Though symptoms are sometimes described as the Jewish housewives’ disease, the worm is nonsectarian, and the anemia can be
    found in other cultures that eat raw freshwater fish.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    1. sushi is not healthy good grief
    raw fish has high levels of intestinal worms. um, open a new york times or newsweek and get your head out of yated and hamodea and learn about health issues connected with eating raw fish. or raw meat
    if you want that disgusting garbage living in your intestinal tract, by all means
    plus, anyone that is educated at all about the world around them knows about mercury. only if the fish is wild is it ok.
    good grief. this has nothing to do with ‘shabbos’ and ”chulent’,,and ‘kishke’ dont you people have anything else to argue about besides that stupid nonsense that you think gives you credence as a frummer yid or a not frum yid?
    get a life.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Raboisai, you are all right and all wrong. Avadeh, it is important to preserve our mesoire and even not to change a kutzo shel yud. Chas v’chalilah to eliminate any of the foods that are part of our mesoreh, including the gefilte fish, soup, kugel (l’katchila at least two kinds of kugel at each meal), chulent, ptcha, herring, etc. On the other hand we are supposed to be mechabed the shabbos with the most chashuv and tasty foods and if that is sushi then we should have sushi at the shabbos table. The solution is simple, we should include sushi on the menu without eliminating any of the other foods. V’chol hamarbeh harei zeh meshubach.

    Monsey Mom
    Monsey Mom
    14 years ago

    I am not sure the above fishworm story applies to sushi because there must be certain rules what kind of raw fish is used in sushi to ensure there are no parasites.

    However, I always choose the cooked fish types (salmon, imitation crab, etc). I love sushi but I cannot stomach the thought of eating raw fish. If you have never tasted sushi and don’t want to eat raw fish, try a cooked salmon roll and you’ll see why people love it. It’s healthy, tastes good and I honestly don’t see the difference between eating cholent & kishke and sushi. You can fress both or you can eat them both in moderation. The fact that Eastern European Jews ate kishka doesn’t make it more kosher than sushi. Just like Goulash – it was a “Hungarian” specialty, which is why our Hungarian ancestors liked it.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    A cubic inch of typical kishka has roughly 80 calories, 52-53 of which are from saturated fat. That’s over 60%. Most current dietary guidelines recommend fat intake of no more than 20% of total calorie consumption, limiting saturated fats to below 10%. You’ll be in Gan Eden real fast, if you keep eating this poison.