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Hate crime duo: Simon Sheppard and Stephen Whittle. Photograph: Humberside Police/PA
The pair fled Britain for the US after being convicted of running an internet campaign.
But their hopes of being protected by the US free speech laws ended when they were held in custody for a year before being deported to face sentence in the UK.
At Leeds Crown Court, judge Rodney Grant referred to articles published by both men on a website run by Simon Sheppard.
He told them: "I have rarely seen or read material which is so insulting or abusive towards racial groups within our society."
Sentencing Sheppard, 52, of Selby, Yorkshire, to four years and 10 months, he told him the articles were "offensive in the extreme".
Disgusting Stephen Whittle, 42, of Preston, Lancashire, was jailed for two years and five months.
The judge told him five articles he published on the site were "full of hatred and disgusting and abusive in the extreme."
Both men were found guilty of publishing racially inflammatory material.
The court had heard earlier articles attacked black people as "not the equal of whites" and the Holocaust was "treated in an insulting fashion and survivors held up to ridicule".
The pair claimed they should be aquitted as the articles were posted on a server registered in the US and beyond UK law.
But in a groundbreaking decision, judge Grant determined the publication of the offending material took place when Sheppard and Whittle themselves uploaded the information.
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Jul 11, 2009 at 11:59 PM Milhouse Says:
This is very disturbing, and should not be applauded at all. The right to freedom of speech is not a creation of the US constitution. On the contrary the constitution recognises and protects a right that already existed and belongs to all people. It is not acceptable that in a country that pretends to be free, people are locked up for speaking their minds. The USA should have given them asylum and not turned them over to the thought police.
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Jul 12, 2009 at 12:07 AM Anonymous Says:
Good for them, May Hashem keep them alive, while the see all Jews are healthy and prosper, that will give some pain.
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Jul 12, 2009 at 12:17 AM Anonymous Says:
“ This is very disturbing, and should not be applauded at all. The right to freedom of speech is not a creation of the US constitution. On the contrary the constitution recognises and protects a right that already existed and belongs to all people. It is not acceptable that in a country that pretends to be free, people are locked up for speaking their minds. The USA should have given them asylum and not turned them over to the thought police.
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Free speech are not for such people like them and .... you!
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Jul 12, 2009 at 12:36 AM Anonymous Says:
I understand free speech and peoples rght to speak their minds. have no problem with that.the uk takes holocust denial and all such negitive talk very serious. as well in this case it would not pay for the u.s. to bother making a issue of granting this 2 men aysilm they hold no value for the u.s. why fight with allies when we need their help with bigger problems. now of cousre this would have not been trebbile issue betwwen u.s. and uk but why make waves
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Jul 12, 2009 at 02:20 AM Milhouse Says:
“ I understand free speech and peoples rght to speak their minds. have no problem with that.the uk takes holocust denial and all such negitive talk very serious. as well in this case it would not pay for the u.s. to bother making a issue of granting this 2 men aysilm they hold no value for the u.s. why fight with allies when we need their help with bigger problems. now of cousre this would have not been trebbile issue betwwen u.s. and uk but why make waves ”
Because they were in the USA and asking for asylum. Making nice with an ally does not justify handing someone over to be punished for exercising his human rights. Lo sasgir eved el adonov, kol shekein a free person who has not committed anything we recognise as a crime.
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Jul 12, 2009 at 02:18 AM Milhouse Says:
“ Free speech are not for such people like them and .... you! ”
Thank you for demonstrating exactly what this is about. You are a tyrant who would deprive everybody of all their freedoms. Why don't you go join your ideological heroes, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot?
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Jul 12, 2009 at 01:50 AM Yoilie Says:
“ This is very disturbing, and should not be applauded at all. The right to freedom of speech is not a creation of the US constitution. On the contrary the constitution recognises and protects a right that already existed and belongs to all people. It is not acceptable that in a country that pretends to be free, people are locked up for speaking their minds. The USA should have given them asylum and not turned them over to the thought police.
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The US may be bound under international treaties to turn over individuals fleeing from laws enacted by legitimate representative assemblies of the goyim in other countries. To my knowledge, political prisoners normally aren't accepted from otherwise democratic nations who may have more restrictive speech laws (e.g., not Germans wanting to own Mein Kampf). This is a reminder of the unprecedented extent of possession of rights we possess in the US, BH.
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Jul 12, 2009 at 01:32 AM Anonymous Says:
“ This is very disturbing, and should not be applauded at all. The right to freedom of speech is not a creation of the US constitution. On the contrary the constitution recognises and protects a right that already existed and belongs to all people. It is not acceptable that in a country that pretends to be free, people are locked up for speaking their minds. The USA should have given them asylum and not turned them over to the thought police.
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Than go join them...
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Jul 12, 2009 at 08:50 AM Avrohom Abba Says:
May they live long lives in prison.
May we, as the Jewish people, continue to give the world new medicines and advances in medical improvements both in equipment and technology, while these two rot in jail and read about all the improvements contributed by the Jewish People.
Good bye, hate promoters.
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Jul 12, 2009 at 10:16 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Thank you for demonstrating exactly what this is about. You are a tyrant who would deprive everybody of all their freedoms. Why don't you go join your ideological heroes, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot? ”
I just cannot find in me the ability to type I agree with you, I am still looking for a caveat
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Jul 12, 2009 at 10:12 AM Raphael Kaufman Says:
“ Free speech are not for such people like them and .... you! ”
This is precisely the kind of speech that IS protected. No one needs to protect speach that you agree with. By denying free speach to them you are threatening your own freedom. Everything that we have and enjoy in our Jewish life here in America, our Mosdos, our yeshivas, our open pratice of religion, all of these are protected by the First Amendment. If all we have to put up with to get all that is a couple of nut jobs making silly statements, I think we got a pretty good deal.
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Jul 12, 2009 at 11:47 AM Milhouse Says:
“ This is precisely the kind of speech that IS protected. No one needs to protect speach that you agree with. By denying free speach to them you are threatening your own freedom. Everything that we have and enjoy in our Jewish life here in America, our Mosdos, our yeshivas, our open pratice of religion, all of these are protected by the First Amendment. If all we have to put up with to get all that is a couple of nut jobs making silly statements, I think we got a pretty good deal. ”
Though apparently not such a good deal, since in fact America did hand them over.
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Jul 12, 2009 at 11:46 AM Milhouse Says:
“ The US may be bound under international treaties to turn over individuals fleeing from laws enacted by legitimate representative assemblies of the goyim in other countries. To my knowledge, political prisoners normally aren't accepted from otherwise democratic nations who may have more restrictive speech laws (e.g., not Germans wanting to own Mein Kampf). This is a reminder of the unprecedented extent of possession of rights we possess in the US, BH. ”
NO country extradites people whose alleged actions would not be crimes in the extraditing country. No treaty requires it. And even if there were such a treaty, so what? If it existed, America would have the moral obligation to break it rather than hand people over to be punished for such a thing. Even vile antisemites like these.
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Jul 12, 2009 at 01:12 PM Anonymous Says:
If what is said in the article is true, than Jews in GB shoud seriously consider leaving. First we have a court dictating who is Jewish, then we see a person jailed for 5 years for celebrating Holocost and stating that Shwartzes are not equal to whites. Every religious Jew is guilty of celebrating Holocost of Amalekis, Knaanim etc.described in Tanach. As well as saying racist brochos every morning.
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Jul 13, 2009 at 02:48 PM martin Says:
there a g-d in this word these men are filled with hate let them think about there crime behind bars
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Jul 13, 2009 at 03:53 PM Milhouse Says:
“ there a g-d in this word these men are filled with hate let them think about there crime behind bars ”
They committed no crime. All they did was express their (vile) opinion.