“ We should not use this one case to generalize for a whole community but one does wonder how many more of these cases occur when their leaders promote every mother to have at least 12 children and avoid using birth control. Hopefully, the court will put in place some system to detect possible abuse cases earlier and before god forbid there are tragic consequences. Again, this is not an issue where rabbonim have competence to diagnose and treat. ”

“ Something seems to be off here. How come this is the only child out of so many to have this problem. I think this needs further investigation. ”

“ We should not use this one case to generalize for a whole community but one does wonder how many more of these cases occur when their leaders promote every mother to have at least 12 children and avoid using birth control. Hopefully, the court will put in place some system to detect possible abuse cases earlier and before god forbid there are tragic consequences. Again, this is not an issue where rabbonim have competence to diagnose and treat. ”

“ We should not use this one case to generalize for a whole community but one does wonder how many more of these cases occur when their leaders promote every mother to have at least 12 children and avoid using birth control. Hopefully, the court will put in place some system to detect possible abuse cases earlier and before god forbid there are tragic consequences. Again, this is not an issue where rabbonim have competence to diagnose and treat. ”

“ Ok she may be nuts - but the rest are thugs for setting the fire. Where is the father? ”

“ you missed one line in the news: ".. (she) suffers from Munchausen syndrome by proxy, a psychiatric disorder"...
She is nebach a woman with a psychiatric condition, I know women with 10 - 12 - 14 kids taking care of their children nicer and better than some who only bear 2-3 kids. ”

“ I don't blieve this story! she's a very respected women& that's y they protested on her bhalf. just another job done by the zionist regime ”

“ I don't blieve this story! she's a very respected women& that's y they protested on her bhalf. just another job done by the zionist regime ”

“ there is something called failure to thrive - can we maybe be dan lchaf zechus before jumping to conclusions? ”

“ here in yerushalayim a whole differnt story is being told!!!! ”

“ something doesn't add up here! why are the other children still home? story smells fishy. again they're after the chareidim ”

“ While I agree with you that that measures need to be taken against this mother,
the first part of your comment exposes you for what your worth.
This woman clearly has a problem and it is unrelated to promoting the non use of birth control. Any rav that sees a woman having issues dealing with her children would allow her to take approriate measures.
BTW your great grandmothers didn't use birth control either.
I guess large coping families are your consience.
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“ there is something called failure to thrive - can we maybe be dan lchaf zechus before jumping to conclusions? ”

“ We should not use this one case to generalize for a whole community but one does wonder how many more of these cases occur when their leaders promote every mother to have at least 12 children and avoid using birth control. Hopefully, the court will put in place some system to detect possible abuse cases earlier and before god forbid there are tragic consequences. Again, this is not an issue where rabbonim have competence to diagnose and treat. ”

“ I don't blieve this story! she's a very respected women& that's y they protested on her bhalf. just another job done by the zionist regime ”

“ there is something called failure to thrive - can we maybe be dan lchaf zechus before jumping to conclusions? ”

“ You're forgetting about the video evidence. ”

“ "one tube slipped out of the child,"
This contradicts the testimony saying that they saw in the camera how stopped the nurture or poured "unknown" substances into it.

I understand that they are speaking of several occasions and did not "rush in when the tube slipped out".

In another article it says that the child recuperated as soon as he was safe from the mother... ”

“ This article is coming straight from the Israeli media, which you can never believe.

Do you think the rabbonim would call a protest, if they would know that the woman is at fault? ”

“ "if they would know that the woman is at fault"

The problem with them is that they not seem to give the police's hypothesis a fair chance. Let the rabbonim and the police investigate. But I have the impression that the Rabbonim, who according to you, called the protest reason something along the lines "It cannot be because it should not be"... ”

“ I personally know this “ehrliche” nice women and her well-known prestigious family, the whole thing here is a wild “Bilbul” made against ehrliche-yidden that is going on since the Zionist so-called state exist.

Everybody has learned it again and again, how this “reshoim” are trying as many times as they could, finding “Bilbulim” on ehrliche-yidden as much as they can. And the story here is clearly, as they write: “It was later revealed that the woman is a member of the Neturei Karta community. now they found “nebach” a mother of many children with a sick child that is already suffering eight month in the hospital, they can take the right “Nekomo”, and specially, if she’s an anti-zionist.

And everybody is believing their story, that a frum mother from “mea-sheorim” with that many children, is willing to kill her child, by pulling out a feeding tube, like you hear it by the monsters in harlem, after sitting by her hospital bed eight month. Her goal is only to kill her child.

Of course, they are not telling the whole story, this child was hospitalized eight month ago the child didn’t eat well and was loosing weight, they diagnosed her with cancer r”l, and treated her with chemo therapy, now they found out that it’s not cancer. (most probably, this whole story is a cover-up, not to focus on them, for un-diagnosing right and treating her many month with chemo.)

Right from the beginning on, they tried very hard to create a “child-abuse” case, but never got anywhere, therefore, the relationship between the mother and the nurses were always very rough, lately, she realized a hidden camera in the room, she had suspicious that something is cooking, the were looking on her with “seven-eyes” but what could she do.

Unfortunately, the long-awaited time came up, as it can happen many times, a child moves from side to side, one tube slipped out of the child, they ran in with such a “simcha”, that they finally caught her. She wants’ to kill her child…. They said “we are already watching you several weeks on the hidden TV, now we got you.” …….

They didn’t even want to hear her reply, the entire hospital staff was suddenly there, laughing of her as she was crying, it was clearly seen, as a “Bilbul”, like the old type in the nebach’dige Yiddish villages.

They arrested her as a real murderer, throwing her in jail with the worst man-kind possible, she is already sitting there since last week Wednesday. Even the husband was arrested for two days and was released on $50.000. bail.

Wake up yidden, whom do you really believe, this “Reshoim” where it never stopped “Rishos” from them, their whole goal is to stop yidden from keeping the torah. Or a ehrliche-yiddishe women who is nebach sitting with her sick child waiting to take her home gezunterheit, yes, this women wants to kill her child, but, this reshoim they are the Rachmonim, they couldn’t see how this mother murders her child. They would have shot to death R”L all the chareidim in mea-sheorim, HL”S if they could have.
”

“ I personally know this “ehrliche” nice women and her well-known prestigious family, the whole thing here is a wild “Bilbul” made against ehrliche-yidden that is going on since the Zionist so-called state exist.

Everybody has learned it again and again, how this “reshoim” are trying as many times as they could, finding “Bilbulim” on ehrliche-yidden as much as they can. And the story here is clearly, as they write: “It was later revealed that the woman is a member of the Neturei Karta community. now they found “nebach” a mother of many children with a sick child that is already suffering eight month in the hospital, they can take the right “Nekomo”, and specially, if she’s an anti-zionist.

And everybody is believing their story, that a frum mother from “mea-sheorim” with that many children, is willing to kill her child, by pulling out a feeding tube, like you hear it by the monsters in harlem, after sitting by her hospital bed eight month. Her goal is only to kill her child.

Of course, they are not telling the whole story, this child was hospitalized eight month ago the child didn’t eat well and was loosing weight, they diagnosed her with cancer r”l, and treated her with chemo therapy, now they found out that it’s not cancer. (most probably, this whole story is a cover-up, not to focus on them, for un-diagnosing right and treating her many month with chemo.)

Right from the beginning on, they tried very hard to create a “child-abuse” case, but never got anywhere, therefore, the relationship between the mother and the nurses were always very rough, lately, she realized a hidden camera in the room, she had suspicious that something is cooking, the were looking on her with “seven-eyes” but what could she do.

Unfortunately, the long-awaited time came up, as it can happen many times, a child moves from side to side, one tube slipped out of the child, they ran in with such a “simcha”, that they finally caught her. She wants’ to kill her child…. They said “we are already watching you several weeks on the hidden TV, now we got you.” …….

They didn’t even want to hear her reply, the entire hospital staff was suddenly there, laughing of her as she was crying, it was clearly seen, as a “Bilbul”, like the old type in the nebach’dige Yiddish villages.

They arrested her as a real murderer, throwing her in jail with the worst man-kind possible, she is already sitting there since last week Wednesday. Even the husband was arrested for two days and was released on $50.000. bail.

Wake up yidden, whom do you really believe, this “Reshoim” where it never stopped “Rishos” from them, their whole goal is to stop yidden from keeping the torah. Or a ehrliche-yiddishe women who is nebach sitting with her sick child waiting to take her home gezunterheit, yes, this women wants to kill her child, but, this reshoim they are the Rachmonim, they couldn’t see how this mother murders her child. They would have shot to death R”L all the chareidim in mea-sheorim, HL”S if they could have.
”

“ Ok since I'm a dual American and Israeli citizen I belive 44 if I just told you some stories of my own every time I went to visit your hair would stand up it got so bad that I haven't gone back for 18 years now therfore I belive 44 I know what this reshoim are cabebule of dooing anyway to # 6 I agree that the best advertisment to birth control would be you yoursf and no one else a shame your mama dident use it or at least use it one child erlier think about it how would you post your hate if you wouldent be nebech ”

“ I have friends who know her for years. This story is totally fabricated. she has a sick child who cannot keep food down and has ben in hospital for 2 years. they gave the kid a bone marrow transplant but then said he has another condition. She complained that they were experimenting on her child so to shut her up tried to make a case against her. ”

“ So again the Rabbonim are the problem, Gross man.

I waited until now with an open mind. I still don't know enough to comment; only that people love to believe what they want to believe, and will not give another human being a fair shake. If it’s printed black on white, then it must be true. If I don't like their ideology, then it surely must be true. ”

“ Something seems to be off here. How come this is the only child out of so many to have this problem. I think this needs further investigation. ”

“ This article is coming straight from the Israeli media, which you can never believe.

Do you think the rabbonim would call a protest, if they would know that the woman is at fault? ”

“ It is terrible what the need for attention can bring people to do. If positive attention won't do, they will resort to negative attention.
I feel sorry for the mother. Obviously her needs were not met as a child.
She must be in terrible emotional pain for her to resort to hurting her innocent child. Does she have friends? Are her neighbors nice to her? I wish I would know the whole picture.
How about classifying being a part of the Neturei Kartai a psychiatric disorder? Isn't this another way of seeking negative attention? ”

“ I have friends who know her for years. This story is totally fabricated. she has a sick child who cannot keep food down and has ben in hospital for 2 years. they gave the kid a bone marrow transplant but then said he has another condition. She complained that they were experimenting on her child so to shut her up tried to make a case against her. ”

“ You're forgetting about the video evidence. ”

“ Well it is a problem when a sect lives in anarchy in a country they don't recognize. Who deals with their mentaly unstable minority?
I guess they must get some Neturei Karta people to deal with her, if they have anyone balanced enough to do so. The Eida isn't kosher enough for them.
What a sad story.
Let us pray for the born & unborn kids, & the very sick mother, I guess her husband isn't to well either, at most he too is suferring.
May HAKB"H help them & all of us. ”

“ This article is coming straight from the Israeli media, which you can never believe.

Do you think the rabbonim would call a protest, if they would know that the woman is at fault? ”

“ Munchausen syndrome by proxy is well documented in many abuse and and infanticide cases. However the profile differs very differently from the case in point. It is very unusual for a woman to have several well fed, well cared for children and then poick one to abuse. Even if she decided to pick on the new one, there would be a history of illness (abuse) of the last child that stopped with the birth of the new one. In any case, if the woman is mentally ill she should be treated for her illness. Incarceration alone will not help her. ”

“ To those of you who are really concerned. (Especially those who don’t jump to conclusions before hearing what really happened.)

I personally know the mother -she’s a woman everyone would wish to have her as a mother- and the family. And I’m following this story for over a year now. The story in short is as follows, at the age of 1 the child got sick. He had fever, couldn’t keep food down etc. so on the advice of Dr. Floris Levy, a pediatric emergency medicine specialist at Hadassah Medical Center -whom she highly trusted- he was hospitalized In the Hadassah ein-kerem medical center where he was (wrongly) diagnosed with cancer by Dr. Michael Weintraub and Dr. Memet Aker under whose “care” he is until now.

As time went by and as the child received chemo therapy (for no good reason) and no turn for the better the mother started to smell that some thing isn’t right. But was brainwashed by the doctors that they are doing everything for the child’s welfare. But as more time went by and still no improvement in the child’s condition. The mother smelled that something is fishy and started to question the doctors. That’s when one of the doctors mistakenly slipped out that the child was misdiagnosed.

The parents were warned not to tell anybody and not listen to anybody’s advice. But even though, the doctors being afraid that the parents will open a malpractice case against them and the hospital. They preemptively counter accused them and opened up this child abuse case against the mother. And created this exotic condition that the mother never had and b’ezras hashem will never have.

Now how about as another view on the story.

p.s. she wasn’t arrested in the welfare office she was arrested in the middle of the street as the biggest criminal or worse and is kept so as well (without bail, kosher food, visitation rights, etc.) even though she is no threat to anyone.

p.p.s. I don’t think her religious belief or organizational affiliation make any difference or even belong in the story.
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“ at least this story has no odds in it.

its usuall for Doctors to make mistakes, we all here about all the time, only that most of the times it on minor issues, but this one is a bunker buster..

imagine yourself in HER position (with the above story taking place), no one to contact, the big shots at the Hospital threaten you to death.. no medical knowledge.. and so on, and then you get 'captured' and held as a 'society threatining' criminal. I cant even discribe it.

and here come some Yiddin and knowing (or at least think they know) what has been done to this poor Woman, make sure that Her cry is heared high and loud. they didnt protest when someone was jailed for criminal activity, only when such a disgusted injustice was being carried out thru their so called law inforcement. ”

“ at least this story has no odds in it.

its usuall for Doctors to make mistakes, we all here about all the time, only that most of the times it on minor issues, but this one is a bunker buster..

imagine yourself in HER position (with the above story taking place), no one to contact, the big shots at the Hospital threaten you to death.. no medical knowledge.. and so on, and then you get 'captured' and held as a 'society threatining' criminal. I cant even discribe it.

and here come some Yiddin and knowing (or at least think they know) what has been done to this poor Woman, make sure that Her cry is heared high and loud. they didnt protest when someone was jailed for criminal activity, only when such a disgusted injustice was being carried out thru their so called law inforcement. ”