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Jul 18, 2009 at 09:47 PM
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This, he said "despite the fact that protestors have hurt policemen and disrupted life in the capital". He also added, "this is the restraint expected of the police".
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Jul 18, 2009 at 09:55 PM menachem Says:
Just when you thought that the charedim are backward thinking people , comes along an equally pathetic statement from the other side
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Jul 18, 2009 at 10:01 PM Anonymous Says:
I'm not a big fan of MK Tibi, but his point is well taken. Had these been Palestinian rioters (instead of a bunch of chareidim acting worse than arabs) the police definitely would have fired their weapons and killed some of the protestors.
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Jul 18, 2009 at 10:00 PM Anonymous Says:
I'm also surprised. These zionist anti chareidi thugs are capable of doing just that ch"v
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Jul 18, 2009 at 09:59 PM wendy Says:
this is a smart arab
either way he goes he'll have someone against him or on his side
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Jul 18, 2009 at 10:23 PM Babishka Says:
Tibi is disappointed that no Jews have been killed, yet.
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Jul 18, 2009 at 10:20 PM yoelyg Says:
only & only PROTESTING the mayor understand, they release the lady friday WHY? becouse the protest, yidish kinder keep on the holy work
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Jul 18, 2009 at 10:28 PM ZR Says:
“ I'm not a big fan of MK Tibi, but his point is well taken. Had these been Palestinian rioters (instead of a bunch of chareidim acting worse than arabs) the police definitely would have fired their weapons and killed some of the protestors. ”
Are you insane? There is no comparison. Arab protesters try to kill. They try to maim. They try to infiltrate suicide bombers. They are after Jewish blood.
Chareid protesters, however big Chillul Hashem they are causing, can not to be compared to Arabs Ch”v.
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Jul 18, 2009 at 10:08 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Just when you thought that the charedim are backward thinking people , comes along an equally pathetic statement from the other side ”
The charedim have acted like a bunch of stone age, backward thinking people in the past few weeks. The member of the Kennest is saying the truth.
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Jul 18, 2009 at 10:07 PM Avrohom Abba Says:
The real, underlying reason for all these protests is that the charedim wanted the stores closed on Shabbos.
Okay guys, let's go inside the head and heart of a Jewish guy who has his store open on Shabbos.
He sees the protests, the fires, the rioting, the screaming and the runninng up and down the streets.
Is he going to say to himself, "Oh my G-d!!! Look at those fires and the rioting and yelling. Wow! Now i want to become religious and close my store on Shabbos."
Who is dumb enough to think that will be the result of the protests?
No one is.
Therefore, the protestors know that the stores will stay open.
Fools! You want those non religious people to change?
Why don't you buy 1,000 little Tehilims and walk up nicely to each and every policeman and soldier and say, "Here is a free Tehilim. Please read it and help yourself and us. Have a great day my friend."
Remember,
You will catch more bees with honey, than you will, if you use vinegar.
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Jul 18, 2009 at 10:42 PM yoelyg Says:
only & only PROTESTING the mayor understand, they release the lady friday WHY? becouse the protest, yidish kinder keep on the holy work
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Jul 18, 2009 at 10:41 PM Anonymous Says:
the prob. is that in israel if you riot it works, im not saying its right but it does work. look the ladys out
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Jul 18, 2009 at 10:34 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I'm not a big fan of MK Tibi, but his point is well taken. Had these been Palestinian rioters (instead of a bunch of chareidim acting worse than arabs) the police definitely would have fired their weapons and killed some of the protestors. ”
well for good reason the police did not kill our own brothers. Arabs protesting IS A THREAT because they use guns and rocks and other weapons. The worst is when a frum guy protests in Israel is they are not using their heads and nothing can be done about it. You don't kill people for being stupid.
My question is where are the parents of these stupid bochurim making trouble in the streets. Why aren't the American parents telling their stupid sons to stop with the violence and making a chilul hashem?
According to the pictures that are being posted all voer the world it looks like most of the people in the pictures ar enot ISraelis but American. What a shandeh!
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Jul 18, 2009 at 10:58 PM Izzy Says:
They should of never let her out of jail and give into the rioters. If I wish the govt would ban nk and closed there offices in Israel.
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Jul 18, 2009 at 11:32 PM 2 serious Says:
wow! this guy is a real sicko, i he ups the bar to killing so anything the police did -short of killing someone - is considered "showing restraint".
the police may have shown restraint in certain areas but there was plenty of police brutality, but now that this arab is surprised that they didn't "kill anybody" anything else the police may have done e.g. beat people bloody, is an act of 'tzidkus'. its like saying i'm surprised the police showed restraint with the guy they pulled over for running a red- they didn't even kill him.
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Jul 18, 2009 at 11:22 PM Anonymous Says:
this woman belongs in a mental hospital she abused here other kids also she doesnt belong home !!! and tell all this chasidim to get jobs !!!
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Jul 18, 2009 at 11:11 PM Anonymous Says:
I'm suprised as well. The protesters are trying in many cases to kill police officers or soldiers...
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Jul 18, 2009 at 11:49 PM PMO Says:
“ only & only PROTESTING the mayor understand, they release the lady friday WHY? becouse the protest, yidish kinder keep on the holy work ”
Yeah... that's it.... it was the criminals setting buildings on fire that caused the police to release her. Only a Hamas supporter would believe that anything good comes from risking the lives of innocent people by committing arson.
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Jul 18, 2009 at 11:45 PM yoelyg Says:
only & only PROTESTING the mayor understand, they release the lady friday WHY? becouse the protest, yidish kinder keep on the holy work
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Jul 18, 2009 at 11:57 PM PMO Says:
“ well for good reason the police did not kill our own brothers. Arabs protesting IS A THREAT because they use guns and rocks and other weapons. The worst is when a frum guy protests in Israel is they are not using their heads and nothing can be done about it. You don't kill people for being stupid.
My question is where are the parents of these stupid bochurim making trouble in the streets. Why aren't the American parents telling their stupid sons to stop with the violence and making a chilul hashem?
According to the pictures that are being posted all voer the world it looks like most of the people in the pictures ar enot ISraelis but American. What a shandeh! ”
Are you nuts? Do you suffer from some sort of mental defect?
What makes a Palestinian throwing rocks at innocent people any worse than a Yid doing it? When a yid burns down a building in protest is he somehow not just as big of a criminal?
Yidden who peacefully protest are just fine. The ones who commit arson and risk the lives of not only police, but even sanitation workers trying to keep the fires under control, deserve to be locked away for the rest of their lives for attempted murder. These people are not yidden.... they are phonies, liars, and hate Torah. These people are no better than Hamas, and if I carried a gun in EY, I would have shot the first person who threatened my life with rocks or fire.
The normal people in our community better wake up and realize that there is a cancer growing in our community. A cancer of violent terrorists. These people need to be stopped, and stopped now. Any police officer is well in his rights to shoot dead anyone throwing rocks or setting fires. I don't know how they maintain their restraint. I know I wouldn't.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 12:41 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Are you nuts? Do you suffer from some sort of mental defect?
What makes a Palestinian throwing rocks at innocent people any worse than a Yid doing it? When a yid burns down a building in protest is he somehow not just as big of a criminal?
Yidden who peacefully protest are just fine. The ones who commit arson and risk the lives of not only police, but even sanitation workers trying to keep the fires under control, deserve to be locked away for the rest of their lives for attempted murder. These people are not yidden.... they are phonies, liars, and hate Torah. These people are no better than Hamas, and if I carried a gun in EY, I would have shot the first person who threatened my life with rocks or fire.
The normal people in our community better wake up and realize that there is a cancer growing in our community. A cancer of violent terrorists. These people need to be stopped, and stopped now. Any police officer is well in his rights to shoot dead anyone throwing rocks or setting fires. I don't know how they maintain their restraint. I know I wouldn't.
”
Reading your comment you just justified the rioting, just take one good look how the vicious police of the lawless gov't is acting, brutally beating young and old, even innocent kids, by the police acting this way like hooligans and gangsters, all riots and trouble that follow the protests are fully justified. (accoerding to your judgement).
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Jul 19, 2009 at 12:35 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Are you nuts? Do you suffer from some sort of mental defect?
What makes a Palestinian throwing rocks at innocent people any worse than a Yid doing it? When a yid burns down a building in protest is he somehow not just as big of a criminal?
Yidden who peacefully protest are just fine. The ones who commit arson and risk the lives of not only police, but even sanitation workers trying to keep the fires under control, deserve to be locked away for the rest of their lives for attempted murder. These people are not yidden.... they are phonies, liars, and hate Torah. These people are no better than Hamas, and if I carried a gun in EY, I would have shot the first person who threatened my life with rocks or fire.
The normal people in our community better wake up and realize that there is a cancer growing in our community. A cancer of violent terrorists. These people need to be stopped, and stopped now. Any police officer is well in his rights to shoot dead anyone throwing rocks or setting fires. I don't know how they maintain their restraint. I know I wouldn't.
”
fool watch the videos of a arab protest they aim to kill the media calls waht the arabs throw rocks really theyre boulders the only rocks are from the slingshots wich are deadly no policeman in yerushlayim is in motyal danger come on this dumb mk who hates israel and you agree with him only in such a crazy goverment without the slightest basic natrual instinct of self survival has such people in its goverment he himself is frequently by arab protests i wonder if hes upset the police didnt kill him and also when the arabs protest they are wrong here the yidden are standing up for what is right
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Jul 19, 2009 at 12:32 AM Anonymous Says:
MI KEAMCHA YISROEL!!!as violent as we get ultimately we all know unlike the arabs we won't kill:) BH, I feel safe with all my brothers. The arabs kill each other of course tibis surprised!!!
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Jul 19, 2009 at 12:24 AM Anonymous Says:
“ only & only PROTESTING the mayor understand, they release the lady friday WHY? becouse the protest, yidish kinder keep on the holy work ”
were u the bocher that used to run and make the whole mea shorim up in flames with ur protests
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Jul 19, 2009 at 12:48 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Are you nuts? Do you suffer from some sort of mental defect?
What makes a Palestinian throwing rocks at innocent people any worse than a Yid doing it? When a yid burns down a building in protest is he somehow not just as big of a criminal?
Yidden who peacefully protest are just fine. The ones who commit arson and risk the lives of not only police, but even sanitation workers trying to keep the fires under control, deserve to be locked away for the rest of their lives for attempted murder. These people are not yidden.... they are phonies, liars, and hate Torah. These people are no better than Hamas, and if I carried a gun in EY, I would have shot the first person who threatened my life with rocks or fire.
The normal people in our community better wake up and realize that there is a cancer growing in our community. A cancer of violent terrorists. These people need to be stopped, and stopped now. Any police officer is well in his rights to shoot dead anyone throwing rocks or setting fires. I don't know how they maintain their restraint. I know I wouldn't.
”
are YOU nuts???? you would shoot someone who lights a dumpster of fire???? dude you gotta do someothing with that pent up aggression. ironic how YOU the guy thats ready to shoot a 15 yr old kid who lights a dumpster refers too others as "violent terrorists". well as the great rabbis teach us "kol haposel b'mumo posel"
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Jul 18, 2009 at 11:08 PM Anonymous Says:
Do any of you know why they are protesting before you call people names. a young pregnant woman who has a very sick child R'L was arrested because she did not want to do some of the treatments the hospital suggested and they have made up these pack of lies that you are just as guilty of reporting Shame on you all first of all for printing these Shekarim and then villify people who are outraged !!!!!
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Jul 19, 2009 at 01:02 AM Anonymous Says:
YES protest and vilance is working in isreal. When arabs kidnap ONE isreali they excange him with 2000 terroriest. FACT IS FACT.
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Jul 18, 2009 at 11:04 PM Anonymous Says:
if these would have jobs they wouldnt have time to demonstrate and make a chilel hashem and do damage were are all the rabanim when u need them ??? i guess they in switzerland on vacation
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Jul 18, 2009 at 11:03 PM ZR Says:
“ only & only PROTESTING the mayor understand, they release the lady friday WHY? becouse the protest, yidish kinder keep on the holy work ”
You sound like a 2 year old. “If I don’t get my way, than I throw a tantrum. In public. If Mommy doesn’t want to be embarrassed by my tantrum she will have to give in.”
Are you not embarrassed with your infantile thinking?
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Jul 19, 2009 at 07:29 AM KH Says:
Me ke’amcha Yisrael? The CHAREIDIM MADE A TRUE KIDDUSH HASHEM with the mitzvah of Pidyon Shevuyim and releasing an innocent wonderful mother out of jail. The only reason she was arrested was because she caught on to the criminal experimenting of Dr. Achmad Akr (Arab?) and got big lawyers onto the case to sue him. Since in Israel, chareidim are 7th class citizens and have no power whatsoever, rioting is the only language that government understands. Remember the children of Taiman (Yemen)? KOL HAKAVOD TO THE CHAREIDIM. Hopefully the doctor, the butcher, will replace her soon and all you people who listened to and read the fabricated story and spoke and wrote lashon hara about her will have have the courage to ask this woman for forgiveness. Shame on you for accepting the words of a criminal and maligning a kosher Jewish woman with libelous gossip before investigating both sides of the story.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 07:19 AM Anonymous Says:
I love it.
When it was in Iran, you all sided with the protestors, though it has little signifigance to you.
In Israel you side with the Goverment against the Chareidim! Why? Do you belong to there side? I imagine that Kohmeini was also yelling "Chilul Hashem", so why didn't you listen?
Now listenl, a Jew being Mechalel Shabbos in public, is the greatest Chilul Hashem, as is ruled in Ramba"m. So keep on yelling Chilul Hasem, but do the yelling to the Secular side!
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Jul 19, 2009 at 06:05 AM elchonon Says:
Before you open your mouth to judge, you need to see the full situation, sure they are rioting.. maybe they have legit complaints ? unlike the arabs, they do not burn cars, hurl firearms or attempt to kill police officers:
http://hnn.co.il/gallery7906.html
I have been beaten by every police squad in israel over 500 times.. whether it was peacefully blocking traffic, peacefully standing in amona... and another 100 locations..
These guys are animals!!! If you block traffic in the USA and the cops beat you.. theres a nice lawsuit and a few million buck to follow.
Furthermore, theres very conflicting reports on the mother and child.. to boot, i know of people in israel who were given too much antibiotics in israeli hospitals and had trouble.. ive had 15 operations and thank G-d ive had #1 the best surgeon's in the USA #2 my father is a brilliant pharmacist of 25 years + if he says NO to certain medications, the hospital never argues and he has had surgeon's change drugs (one notable instance is pulling morphine and codine doses despite pain, this is a mutual agreement of mine and my father's for many reasons including A side effects and B addiction concerns)
Dont fall of your high horses as the cop did (i couldent help but laugh as i recalled those same cops beating people in amona while on horseback) many instances of hospitals following outright bad courses.. a parent has the right to choose what they feel is the best course after consulting doctors and rabbi's.
Typical nanny state BS, in the USA its getting there with HRS and other child protection services. I should remind you, that many of the liberal nanny state whacko's out here in the US are products and followers of "all natural" crap and wont take antibiotics , they do however force you to follow all rules which they dont.
Thats why I have a shotgun by the same of my bed.. enough is enough.. kushen tuches tzvei mal.. dont believe the crap you read.
P.S. ive been caught in arab riots.. trust me.. its helluva lot worse than walking naked in mea shearim.. garbage may be degrading.. the arabs will just kill you.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 08:06 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Are you insane? There is no comparison. Arab protesters try to kill. They try to maim. They try to infiltrate suicide bombers. They are after Jewish blood.
Chareid protesters, however big Chillul Hashem they are causing, can not to be compared to Arabs Ch”v.
”
That's not true. he is not talking about Arab suicide bombers. He is talking about protests, which usually are similar to these Charedi protests. A large group of angry people who hate the state. Most of them just yell, and some of them get violent.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 08:23 AM Anonymous Says:
“ That's not true. he is not talking about Arab suicide bombers. He is talking about protests, which usually are similar to these Charedi protests. A large group of angry people who hate the state. Most of them just yell, and some of them get violent. ”
This is lie!! apparently you've never witnessed one, in their most peaceful protests they throw rock as big as cantalopes or watermelons from on top of buildings or downhills direct at police, they shoot out of cars and windows with slingshots, don't compare with haredim acting up with throwing small stones from the floor of mea shearim as a reaction of the uncontrollable police brutality.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 08:17 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Are you nuts? Do you suffer from some sort of mental defect?
What makes a Palestinian throwing rocks at innocent people any worse than a Yid doing it? When a yid burns down a building in protest is he somehow not just as big of a criminal?
Yidden who peacefully protest are just fine. The ones who commit arson and risk the lives of not only police, but even sanitation workers trying to keep the fires under control, deserve to be locked away for the rest of their lives for attempted murder. These people are not yidden.... they are phonies, liars, and hate Torah. These people are no better than Hamas, and if I carried a gun in EY, I would have shot the first person who threatened my life with rocks or fire.
The normal people in our community better wake up and realize that there is a cancer growing in our community. A cancer of violent terrorists. These people need to be stopped, and stopped now. Any police officer is well in his rights to shoot dead anyone throwing rocks or setting fires. I don't know how they maintain their restraint. I know I wouldn't.
”
Are you a member of Hamas, or maybe Hizbollah? you talk like one.. you don't talking like a yid at all.
Oh, maybe you're one of JDL..
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Jul 19, 2009 at 08:14 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Yeah... that's it.... it was the criminals setting buildings on fire that caused the police to release her. Only a Hamas supporter would believe that anything good comes from risking the lives of innocent people by committing arson. ”
Setting buildings on fire.. are you stupid or just want to twist facts to make it look worse?
after many protests where police show close to "0" restraint, hitting bruising people right and left, spraying tear gas into the faces of the people, and holding on people in choke position spraying their faces with pepper spray.. etc.. then some youngsters go and are SETTING GARBAGE DUMPSTERS ON FIRE! a garbage dumpsters is a building? idiot.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 08:11 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Reading your comment you just justified the rioting, just take one good look how the vicious police of the lawless gov't is acting, brutally beating young and old, even innocent kids, by the police acting this way like hooligans and gangsters, all riots and trouble that follow the protests are fully justified. (accoerding to your judgement). ”
if the community leaders would control the hooligans, the police would not have to do anything to them. If they had a peaceful protest, the police could just watch. If some start lighting fires and throwing rocks, very often the innocent people will get hurt. That is the nature of mob action.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 08:08 AM Anonymous Says:
“ this woman belongs in a mental hospital she abused here other kids also she doesnt belong home !!! and tell all this chasidim to get jobs !!! ”
i don't think she is at home. I think she is on house arrest at the house of some respected person.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 08:33 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Before you open your mouth to judge, you need to see the full situation, sure they are rioting.. maybe they have legit complaints ? unlike the arabs, they do not burn cars, hurl firearms or attempt to kill police officers:
http://hnn.co.il/gallery7906.html
I have been beaten by every police squad in israel over 500 times.. whether it was peacefully blocking traffic, peacefully standing in amona... and another 100 locations..
These guys are animals!!! If you block traffic in the USA and the cops beat you.. theres a nice lawsuit and a few million buck to follow.
Furthermore, theres very conflicting reports on the mother and child.. to boot, i know of people in israel who were given too much antibiotics in israeli hospitals and had trouble.. ive had 15 operations and thank G-d ive had #1 the best surgeon's in the USA #2 my father is a brilliant pharmacist of 25 years + if he says NO to certain medications, the hospital never argues and he has had surgeon's change drugs (one notable instance is pulling morphine and codine doses despite pain, this is a mutual agreement of mine and my father's for many reasons including A side effects and B addiction concerns)
Dont fall of your high horses as the cop did (i couldent help but laugh as i recalled those same cops beating people in amona while on horseback) many instances of hospitals following outright bad courses.. a parent has the right to choose what they feel is the best course after consulting doctors and rabbi's.
Typical nanny state BS, in the USA its getting there with HRS and other child protection services. I should remind you, that many of the liberal nanny state whacko's out here in the US are products and followers of "all natural" crap and wont take antibiotics , they do however force you to follow all rules which they dont.
Thats why I have a shotgun by the same of my bed.. enough is enough.. kushen tuches tzvei mal.. dont believe the crap you read.
P.S. ive been caught in arab riots.. trust me.. its helluva lot worse than walking naked in mea shearim.. garbage may be degrading.. the arabs will just kill you.
”
you are 100% right!!! it's a waste of time to try to explain things to many of the people here. they have no clue what really goes on here in israel,as opposed to someone like you who does. really any objective person with a beating heart, and has 1st hand knowledge of what goes on here, will sound like you -not like these self hating jews
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Jul 19, 2009 at 01:41 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Do any of you know why they are protesting before you call people names. a young pregnant woman who has a very sick child R'L was arrested because she did not want to do some of the treatments the hospital suggested and they have made up these pack of lies that you are just as guilty of reporting Shame on you all first of all for printing these Shekarim and then villify people who are outraged !!!!! ”
Do you know as FACT that the lady in question is NOT guilty of what is being charged? I do not know the facts because I am not there and do not know her and I certainly do not believe everything I read here or there.
Explain how you know with certainty that the lady is not guilty. If you start by respongin "i heard" and all that garbage you won't be believed. Please state facts.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 01:40 AM Big Masmid Says:
reading above comments, wow, so MUCH Ahava Yisroel, I can't believe it
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Jul 19, 2009 at 01:39 AM think ur nuts Says:
“ only & only PROTESTING the mayor understand, they release the lady friday WHY? becouse the protest, yidish kinder keep on the holy work ”
fool! `yiddishe kinder keep up the holy work` holy work! ha ha ur making me laugh! You consider throwing rocks and burning garbage cans holy work? u urself are probably one of those crazy rock throwers. go get urself a decent job and stop throwing rocks.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 01:39 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Are you nuts? Do you suffer from some sort of mental defect?
What makes a Palestinian throwing rocks at innocent people any worse than a Yid doing it? When a yid burns down a building in protest is he somehow not just as big of a criminal?
Yidden who peacefully protest are just fine. The ones who commit arson and risk the lives of not only police, but even sanitation workers trying to keep the fires under control, deserve to be locked away for the rest of their lives for attempted murder. These people are not yidden.... they are phonies, liars, and hate Torah. These people are no better than Hamas, and if I carried a gun in EY, I would have shot the first person who threatened my life with rocks or fire.
The normal people in our community better wake up and realize that there is a cancer growing in our community. A cancer of violent terrorists. These people need to be stopped, and stopped now. Any police officer is well in his rights to shoot dead anyone throwing rocks or setting fires. I don't know how they maintain their restraint. I know I wouldn't.
”
Thank g-d your not a police officer. Your calling poster # ? nuts and your threaten to kill people if you had a gun? Who is the wack job now? I read the post your going nuts over and there is nothing bad in there and all the poster is trying to explain is the threat difference bwtween an arab rioting and a jew rioting and in no way does the post defend a yid acting the way they are. Cooler heads is what prevails and by you threatening to kill people if you had a gun is sick. You need a therapist to control your anger dude.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 09:21 AM shmuel Says:
“ only & only PROTESTING the mayor understand, they release the lady friday WHY? becouse the protest, yidish kinder keep on the holy work ”
wow...a chance to be holy!!! mr yoelyg i hope you are there daily protesting or if you are in the usa then get on a plane and join the crusade.!! just think what an opportunity you have to be holy
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Jul 19, 2009 at 09:55 AM Anonymous Says:
I still dont get why people would defend a mother who is abusing her child or children. There are people out there who could only wish that they can have children of their own. I saw the pics of the kids how that child looked is not normal for any age. here in the u.s. there are ads showing children looking how that child looked and these ads ask for money to be sent so these children could get food. and here in a estblished country people are protesting a child being treated well. Forget about religion, because the protests cant be about that the jewish religion is based on logic, and not human logic gds logic. true are time that we dont understand it but its there (the logic) The point, a childs body is constently growing and needs proper food and rest which you can see from the two pics that have been in the newspaper is not the case. Why would you someone protest the gov. taking away a child that is being treated this way it doesnt make sense? Also the shmekele in the above pic is lucky that his arm isnt broken i dont think i could have that much restaint.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 11:49 AM A Says:
“ are YOU nuts???? you would shoot someone who lights a dumpster of fire???? dude you gotta do someothing with that pent up aggression. ironic how YOU the guy thats ready to shoot a 15 yr old kid who lights a dumpster refers too others as "violent terrorists". well as the great rabbis teach us "kol haposel b'mumo posel" ”
I don't think you read PMO's post right. He didn't say that he'd shoot someone who lit a dumpster on fire, he said he'd shoot someone who THREATENED HIS LIFE with rock or fire -- that's a big difference.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 11:34 AM jomadar Says:
unbelievable that torah learned people can degenrate into animals they are protecting a mother who might as well killed her own child they the chareidim think theycant do any wrong they are always right they are so blinded by emotion that they cant think straight all their life learned to hate authority other then theirs so we have a brain washed section of chareidim what a waste of life
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Jul 19, 2009 at 11:56 AM A Says:
“ Before you open your mouth to judge, you need to see the full situation, sure they are rioting.. maybe they have legit complaints ? unlike the arabs, they do not burn cars, hurl firearms or attempt to kill police officers:
http://hnn.co.il/gallery7906.html
I have been beaten by every police squad in israel over 500 times.. whether it was peacefully blocking traffic, peacefully standing in amona... and another 100 locations..
These guys are animals!!! If you block traffic in the USA and the cops beat you.. theres a nice lawsuit and a few million buck to follow.
Furthermore, theres very conflicting reports on the mother and child.. to boot, i know of people in israel who were given too much antibiotics in israeli hospitals and had trouble.. ive had 15 operations and thank G-d ive had #1 the best surgeon's in the USA #2 my father is a brilliant pharmacist of 25 years + if he says NO to certain medications, the hospital never argues and he has had surgeon's change drugs (one notable instance is pulling morphine and codine doses despite pain, this is a mutual agreement of mine and my father's for many reasons including A side effects and B addiction concerns)
Dont fall of your high horses as the cop did (i couldent help but laugh as i recalled those same cops beating people in amona while on horseback) many instances of hospitals following outright bad courses.. a parent has the right to choose what they feel is the best course after consulting doctors and rabbi's.
Typical nanny state BS, in the USA its getting there with HRS and other child protection services. I should remind you, that many of the liberal nanny state whacko's out here in the US are products and followers of "all natural" crap and wont take antibiotics , they do however force you to follow all rules which they dont.
Thats why I have a shotgun by the same of my bed.. enough is enough.. kushen tuches tzvei mal.. dont believe the crap you read.
P.S. ive been caught in arab riots.. trust me.. its helluva lot worse than walking naked in mea shearim.. garbage may be degrading.. the arabs will just kill you.
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elchonon Says: "I have been beaten by every police squad in israel over 500 times"
and "dont believe the crap you read"
I definitely agree with the above-mentioned second statement but that's mostly because people like you write things like that first statement. Talk about crap.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 12:11 PM anonymous Says:
Maybe you don't remember and don't like to remember. The Iraquis had a nuclear reactor almost to gon online named "Osiris". Six "zionistic" F 15 flew a mission, three did the bombing and the other three flew cover and completely destroyed the reactor and it was precision at its best. I am sure none of the mea sheorim "yunge leit' or hoodlums were in these planes.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 12:09 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Me ke’amcha Yisrael? The CHAREIDIM MADE A TRUE KIDDUSH HASHEM with the mitzvah of Pidyon Shevuyim and releasing an innocent wonderful mother out of jail. The only reason she was arrested was because she caught on to the criminal experimenting of Dr. Achmad Akr (Arab?) and got big lawyers onto the case to sue him. Since in Israel, chareidim are 7th class citizens and have no power whatsoever, rioting is the only language that government understands. Remember the children of Taiman (Yemen)? KOL HAKAVOD TO THE CHAREIDIM. Hopefully the doctor, the butcher, will replace her soon and all you people who listened to and read the fabricated story and spoke and wrote lashon hara about her will have have the courage to ask this woman for forgiveness. Shame on you for accepting the words of a criminal and maligning a kosher Jewish woman with libelous gossip before investigating both sides of the story. ”
You say Kol Hakoavod to the Chareidim who are rioting and attacking the police: Most VIN readers would say Kol Hakovod to the policeman who shoots at a Chareidi rioter throwing stones at the police or taking appropriate defensive measure against these animals who are committing such a chilul hashem. That seems to be the only language they would understand. After the first lavayah maybe the would stop attacking the rest of klal yisroel and let us focus our energies on defending against the real threat from the arab terrorists rather from the yiddeshe terrorists in meah shearim.
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Jul 19, 2009 at 12:42 PM anonymous Says:
The chorbin of bayis sheni was not because of hillul shabbes but because of "kamze bar-kamze" remember that
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Jul 19, 2009 at 03:22 PM yoelyg Says:
only & only PROTESTING the mayor understand, they release the lady friday WHY? becouse the protest, yidish kinder keep on the holy work
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Jul 19, 2009 at 07:21 PM Anonymous Says:
“ only & only PROTESTING the mayor understand, they release the lady friday WHY? becouse the protest, yidish kinder keep on the holy work ”
if olny they whould do it on yaffo or king david do u mr.yoelyg think that the city cares that there ruining there own neighborhood i think it was the lawyers that got her out
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Jul 19, 2009 at 07:21 PM 2 serious Says:
“ You say Kol Hakoavod to the Chareidim who are rioting and attacking the police: Most VIN readers would say Kol Hakovod to the policeman who shoots at a Chareidi rioter throwing stones at the police or taking appropriate defensive measure against these animals who are committing such a chilul hashem. That seems to be the only language they would understand. After the first lavayah maybe the would stop attacking the rest of klal yisroel and let us focus our energies on defending against the real threat from the arab terrorists rather from the yiddeshe terrorists in meah shearim.
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speak for yourself. you are not a yid
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Jul 19, 2009 at 07:54 PM A. Nuran Says:
The kid-glove treatment the Charedim get just encourages bad behavior. If Arabs were doing this kind of thing they'd get the rubber (or lead) bullets, water cannon and tear gas. Their families' homes would be bulldozed, and they'd be expelled from the country. But since the Tallit-ban is politically powerful they can engage in murderous assaults, arson and abuse of the police. And what do they get? Our money.
Give them what Arab rioters would get - an order to disperse and then the Long Arm of the Law.
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Jul 20, 2009 at 01:37 AM PMO Says:
“ Thank g-d your not a police officer. Your calling poster # ? nuts and your threaten to kill people if you had a gun? Who is the wack job now? I read the post your going nuts over and there is nothing bad in there and all the poster is trying to explain is the threat difference bwtween an arab rioting and a jew rioting and in no way does the post defend a yid acting the way they are. Cooler heads is what prevails and by you threatening to kill people if you had a gun is sick. You need a therapist to control your anger dude. ”
I would 100% use a gun to defend my life. I have several in my home. If some crazy animal started throwing rocks at me on my property I'd shoot him without a moment's hesitation. If I caught an arsonist setting a building on fire and risking people's lives, I'd also shoot him in a split second. Not necessarily shoot them dead... but minimally enough to stop them.
Those who act like crazed rabid dogs in the street deserve to be treated as such. Setting fires (even trash fires) risks people's lives. Fires can spread... and spread quickly. You not only endanger the lives of innocent civilians, you endanger the lives of the firefighters who have to come and deal with the results of your violent and criminal actions.