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I am first quoting the invitation, which was printed as an Editorial in this past weeks Yated, [read it here word document] and then my response.
And By the way Check out Vos Iz Neias blog as well, which uploaded my piece on Chilul Hashem and Kiddush Hashem and then 200 responses - some deliciously vicious against me, but others paving a new approach, I believe, in the Chareidi community.
I invite Lopatin and the rabbi who wrote in The Jerusalem Post to join me for a visit to Meah Shearim. Let’s go visit the stores and places of business of the Reb Aralach - yes they do work - and see how they conduct themselves. Let’s visit their homes and see how they live. Let’s follow them to the Beis Medrash and observe them davening and learning. We’ll go to the rebbe and you can ask him all your questions. We’ll visit Ben Zion Oiring and watch a one-man chesed operation in action. We’ll talk to Uri Zohar and hear what he has to say. We will pay a visit to Rav Dovid Soloveitchik and you can ask him why he publicly referred to the sorry story as a blood libel. We can just stand at Kikar Shabbos and watch how these loving lovely people go about their daily affairs. If, G-d forbid there should be a need for another hafganah we can attend and watch how Yerushalmi yidden peacefully express their pain and how they are treated by the police. And we can stay till the bitter end and watch how the rif-raf comes and destroys the place. And then we can review together what we have seen and determine whether a re-evaluation is in order.
Dear Rav Lipschutz,
With a spirit of achdus and cheshbon hanefesh,I would like to take you up on your invitation to join you for a visit to Meah She’arim. I have been there many times, as I’m sure most of us reading this blog have, and have been there for a tisch at Toldos Ahron - I believe - but it would be different going with you in a spirit of love and appreciation for acheinu beis Yisrael, who are so committed to Torah and Yiddishkeit - as all of us recognize. I would like to organize an Achdus trip to Israel with Modern Orthodox rabbis, Centrist Orthodox rabbis and Yeshiveshe velt rabbonim all going together for the outstanding itinerary you propose for Meah She’arim, and then to continue into the Old City to visit Yeshivat Ateret Kohanim, then to walk on to Yeshivat Hakotel, Eish Hatorha, Yeshivat Porat Yosef, and to end up in Talpiot Mizrach to visit Beit Morasha and in Bakkah to visit the Pardes Institute, led by Rav Daniel Landes, the great grandson of Rav Tzvi Pesach Frank, zt"l. I would like to invite also Rabbanei Tzohar - perhaps Rav Cherlow and Rav Yehoshua Shapira, as well as leading rabbanim in the Chareidi world in Eretz Yisrael. Together we will show how the greatest Kiddush HaShem is the Achdus of Klal Yisrael and its Torah leadership.
Kol tuv,
Asher Lopatin
Rabbi Asher Lopatin, is the spiritual leader of in Chicago of Anshe Sholom B'nai Israel Congregation, Rabbi Lopatin received his ordination from Rav Aron Soloveichik and Yeshivas Brisk, and also from Yeshiva University in New York .
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:18 AM Anonymous Says:
Rav Lopatin appears in this letter much more as an understanding man with a heart and sense to it. I'm surprised, after reading his drosha on the hafganos it gave me a different impression. Hope this one is the real face.
May they have a lot of hatzloche in their endeavor, a pleasant journey and a safe trip.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:16 AM chevrahmon Says:
I like the rabbis approch. he's got guts
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:15 AM Anonymous Says:
This is a great approach, and hope will be fruitful. Actually I also had some negative look at those Meah Shearim people, until I was there one Tishrei, I was just taken aback by the life there, so full of tochen, quality, and also as I met there a few such great ovdei hashem I was simply amazed.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:14 AM Anonymous Says:
The comparison of the pictures of the two says worlds.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:11 AM Big Masmid Says:
A BIG waste of time
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:24 AM Anonymous Says:
it took u guys 30 years or more to figure out that rav amrom blau gets all the credit for keeping yerushalyim holy. it will take another 30 years to figure out the mesiras nefesh of todays yungelite. couch potato blogger rabbis have no clue what going on. its a battle for yiddishkiet.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:23 AM Anonymous Says:
I don't understand, is R Lopatain issuing a challenge or accepting an invitation? If he is issuing a challenge then I understand the heading "takes on" otherwise it should be "takes up". The tone seemed to be of achdus thus, the headline seems to be written to foment disunity, a very regular tactic of this site of late.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:23 AM Chaim Says:
Rav Lipschutz invited him (and the JPost columnist) to a trip to M.S. to view the true conditions there, rather than the media spin. He didnt invite a whole chad gadya of MO, CO, and chareidi Rabbis for a Unity Tour.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:22 AM meir Says:
Good he called his bluff
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:20 AM a reader Says:
great response by r' lopatin. achdus is truly a two-way street, it applies to all yiddin, not just the most 'black' among us. if we expect the more modern yiddin to show achdus and be accepting of us (even when they disagree with us), we must show them the same respect (which we all know we don't).
i somewhat doubt that r' lipschutz will take r' lopatin up on his offer, but i will instantly have much more respect for him if he does.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM Anonymous Says:
A little clarification please, which Yeshivas Brisk did R Lopatain receive semicha from. As far as I know, neither R Avrohom Yehoshua nor R Dovid offer semicha. R Aharon Soloveichick's Yesiva was called Brisk ChicagoN not plain Brisk so it begs the question which Brisk is referred to.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:22 AM Chaim Says:
Rav Lipschutz invited him (and the JPost columnist) to a trip to M.S. to view the true conditions there, rather than the media spin. He didnt invite a whole chad gadya of MO, CO, and chareidi Rabbis for a Unity Tour.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:37 AM Anonymous Says:
Rabbi lopitan is being cynical once again he knows the purpus of this mission is to find the facts it's not an achdus mission he is trying to turn into somthing it is not, not that I'm not for an achdus mission that would be great but this isent what this is about only a cynic can fardry it in such a way he is not intrested in the truth he is intrested in making a point which is wrong but he won't admit it let's face this man is left of the left he is the man where ram emanuale gets his venumas left wing haskfah toward Israel comes from so guys read it again and don't let his sweet talk blind side you
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:37 AM Anonymous Says:
“ The comparison of the pictures of the two says worlds. ”
why???? the fact that Pinny is wearing a hat & Lopatin isn't makes them better or worse than each other??? klein kepichkeit, it's attitude like yours that that does NOT promote achdus in Klal Yisroel. You know what Moshiach will be wearing on his head? hat, shtreimel, spoddik, kipa serugah.. wait what kind of hat, borsalino, homburg, ribbon on the right, ribbon on the left, up brim, down brim... feh. Get a life, go learn, say tehillim, do something positive for yiddishkeit.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM Anonymous Says:
Why can't he accept the invitation without a counter invitation. He made a point and accusation which was followed up by an invotation by lifshitz. Either accept or don't accept. Don't turn it into a whole achdus trying to get the chareidim to visit the mizrachi yeshivos. Next time lifshitz writes a critique of the hesder yeshivos claiming they are mechallel shaym shomayim then you can invite him for a tour. In the meantime it is irelevant and poltical bullying to force lifshitz into visiting these places
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM Anonymous Says:
R Lopatin is being a bit disingenous with his comment about the vile comments written about him in repomse to his "article". Both him and the guy who wrote the letter to the J Post wrote letters that were very deragatory of chareidim. It is to be expected that there would be heated responses to such an article. Certainly after he took a very negative tone on other occasions. If he cannot appreciate that when he will deride whole communities of people who are dedicated heart and soul, first and foremost to yiddishkeit that people would be updet with his seeming lack of appreciation of such dedication, he has no right to make such publications. You want to make negative comments in a forum, expect a similar reponse.
R Lipschitz, from what I knowN I'd not one to make empty offers. He will be glad to go and will be more than able to show the true nature of these communities. I suspect that the Jpost writer will only go if sponsered. He is well know as one who has to have his way paid for. VDL
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM Anonymous Says:
If they don't have their mind set, and if they're not filled with hatred against the yerushalmies, the the trip may be a success, otherwise it's just a game.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM Anonymous Says:
Why can't he accept the invitation without a counter invitation. He made a point and accusation which was followed up by an invotation by lifshitz. Either accept or don't accept. Don't turn it into a whole achdus trying to get the chareidim to visit the mizrachi yeshivos. Next time lifshitz writes a critique of the hesder yeshivos claiming they are mechallel shaym shomayim then you can invite him for a tour. In the meantime it is irelevant and poltical bullying to force lifshitz into visiting these places
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM Anonymous Says:
R Lopatin is being a bit disingenous with his comment about the vile comments written about him in repomse to his "article". Both him and the guy who wrote the letter to the J Post wrote letters that were very deragatory of chareidim. It is to be expected that there would be heated responses to such an article. Certainly after he took a very negative tone on other occasions. If he cannot appreciate that when he will deride whole communities of people who are dedicated heart and soul, first and foremost to yiddishkeit that people would be updet with his seeming lack of appreciation of such dedication, he has no right to make such publications. You want to make negative comments in a forum, expect a similar reponse.
R Lipschitz, from what I knowN I'd not one to make empty offers. He will be glad to go and will be more than able to show the true nature of these communities. I suspect that the Jpost writer will only go if sponsered. He is well know as one who has to have his way paid for. VDL
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM Anonymous Says:
If they don't have their mind set, and if they're not filled with hatred against the yerushalmies, the the trip may be a success, otherwise it's just a game.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM Anonymous Says:
Why can't he accept the invitation without a counter invitation. He made a point and accusation which was followed up by an invotation by lifshitz. Either accept or don't accept. Don't turn it into a whole achdus trying to get the chareidim to visit the mizrachi yeshivos. Next time lifshitz writes a critique of the hesder yeshivos claiming they are mechallel shaym shomayim then you can invite him for a tour. In the meantime it is irelevant and poltical bullying to force lifshitz into visiting these places
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM Anonymous Says:
R Lopatin is being a bit disingenous with his comment about the vile comments written about him in repomse to his "article". Both him and the guy who wrote the letter to the J Post wrote letters that were very deragatory of chareidim. It is to be expected that there would be heated responses to such an article. Certainly after he took a very negative tone on other occasions. If he cannot appreciate that when he will deride whole communities of people who are dedicated heart and soul, first and foremost to yiddishkeit that people would be updet with his seeming lack of appreciation of such dedication, he has no right to make such publications. You want to make negative comments in a forum, expect a similar reponse.
R Lipschitz, from what I knowN I'd not one to make empty offers. He will be glad to go and will be more than able to show the true nature of these communities. I suspect that the Jpost writer will only go if sponsered. He is well know as one who has to have his way paid for. VDL
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM Anonymous Says:
If they don't have their mind set, and if they're not filled with hatred against the yerushalmies, the the trip may be a success, otherwise it's just a game.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM Anonymous Says:
Rabbi Lopatin went to Yeshivas Brisk in Chicago. Here's a website describing Rabbi Lopatin's backround. http://www.asbi.org/harav/index.htm
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM Anonymous Says:
Does anyone remember? Gershon Jacobson a"h, editor of the Algemainer Journal went to M.S. to see the hafganos himself. We all know he didn't take part in hafganos. He was a bystander.
Who remembers the story? He was beat up by the Israeli police. He had a beard, and that was a reason good enough for them. I don't remember if he was arrested, but he reported himself how he was beat up.
Trust me. He was no fan of the mafginim.
I want these Rabbis to be careful not to get that same treatment.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:59 AM davetherave Says:
“ why???? the fact that Pinny is wearing a hat & Lopatin isn't makes them better or worse than each other??? klein kepichkeit, it's attitude like yours that that does NOT promote achdus in Klal Yisroel. You know what Moshiach will be wearing on his head? hat, shtreimel, spoddik, kipa serugah.. wait what kind of hat, borsalino, homburg, ribbon on the right, ribbon on the left, up brim, down brim... feh. Get a life, go learn, say tehillim, do something positive for yiddishkeit. ”
to #4
and all the guys arrested the other day were wearing hats also. we have to stop looking at the dress and start looking at the actions. I get into this fight all the time in my shul- the "black hatters" feel they are better than the guys who dont wear them, however, I bet people would be surprised if you sat them down to see who learned better and who acted like a better jew.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM Dr. E Says:
All of a sudden, rabbi Lipshutz is a spokesperson and tourism director for Meah Shearim? They are probably as familiar with him as they are of Rav Lopatin. Hopefully for his sake, he can at least get them to issue a moratorim on dumpster burnings during te dog and pony show. It's obvious that Rabbi Lopatin and many of us have no gripe with even those who are vehement in their anti-Zionism as we are against those who make a chillul Hashem in their anarchist and anti-police behavior.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM Gotcha! Says:
Let them go together! This way we could see the truth about the trip in the Yated.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM Anonymous Says:
“ why???? the fact that Pinny is wearing a hat & Lopatin isn't makes them better or worse than each other??? klein kepichkeit, it's attitude like yours that that does NOT promote achdus in Klal Yisroel. You know what Moshiach will be wearing on his head? hat, shtreimel, spoddik, kipa serugah.. wait what kind of hat, borsalino, homburg, ribbon on the right, ribbon on the left, up brim, down brim... feh. Get a life, go learn, say tehillim, do something positive for yiddishkeit. ”
If that is what you see as the only difference between the two pictures, you are the one with a kleine keppel.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM Yaakovsladder Says:
“ A little clarification please, which Yeshivas Brisk did R Lopatain receive semicha from. As far as I know, neither R Avrohom Yehoshua nor R Dovid offer semicha. R Aharon Soloveichick's Yesiva was called Brisk ChicagoN not plain Brisk so it begs the question which Brisk is referred to. ”
I believe that they are referring to Brisk Chicago. That is where Rabbi Aharon Soloveichick had his Yeshiva. It was a different blend of all streams of Frumkeit. From the most modern to somewhere slightly to the left of Yeshivish.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:38 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I believe that they are referring to Brisk Chicago. That is where Rabbi Aharon Soloveichick had his Yeshiva. It was a different blend of all streams of Frumkeit. From the most modern to somewhere slightly to the left of Yeshivish. ”
I was wondering why he said R Ahron Soloveitchik and Brisk. It seems like he was trying to say two different places. Like he learned in Brisk in EY and was from the typical Yeshivish crowd, which apparently is not the case.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:41 PM 9 days barber Says:
ah roov mit aza chup is bei mir nisht kein roov
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:48 PM Anonymous Says:
Anyone who says anything negative about Meah Shaeraim people has to be nuts. I was never there myself but I say people who say things about the place are nuts because it's one of the holiest places on earth. You have the biggest gedolim that live there. Do you think all the gedolim would choose to live in a place that is not a mokom kodoish? Just for that reason alone I say people who say negative things about the people there has to be nuts.
There will always be crazy people and bad apples in every barrel but to generalize is nuts. I would hope to say that if g-d forbid something happemed to a fellow jew wether they are religios or not the people of meah shearim would be the first ones to help.
From speaking to people that live there they tell me that what bothers them is when people shove their agenda down their throats and try to change THEIR WAY OF LIVING and it's not the other way around.
Rabbi Dishon (Boro Park) mentioned many times when giving a shmuz to parents when picking and deciding camps for their children and mentions that parents should not dare send their kids to a camp that they do not agree with their hashkofos and then complain about the camp not being what they expected.
So same here. I do not see Meah Shearim people marching in other cities in Israel and yelling and screaming about anything but when people come to their place which the entire world knows is a mokom kodesh and people want to trample on them and in their face of course they will be upset.
Now for the idiots that destroyed garbage cans, light poles, and caused other damage to private property I assure that this was done by 50 outsiders and they were not the majority of Meah Shaerim people (fact) and was certainly not condoned by gedolim.
Not one godol told anyone to demonstrate.
We all wish Rabbi Pinchos Lifshutz a safe trip.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:54 PM tzion Says:
Since when does a news paper publisher become a rov to give an opinion .The other guy is at least an ordained from rabbi even though his semicha is from a very watered down torah institution They are both just a couple of insignificant people who crave attention and know how to get it. As a person who was arrested thirty years ago and sat in jail in israel for almost a week with only arabs as cell mates .You should know that just like the arabs are brought up to hate jews the israelis are brought up to hate frum jews . The frumer they are the more hate they feel. The chareidim in meah sharim were right when i was arrested thirty years ago by cvish ramot and are still right today. LONG LIVE THE TORAH AND THE PEOPLE WHO FIGHT FOR IT WITHOUT COMPROMISE.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:55 PM Anonymous Says:
“ why???? the fact that Pinny is wearing a hat & Lopatin isn't makes them better or worse than each other??? klein kepichkeit, it's attitude like yours that that does NOT promote achdus in Klal Yisroel. You know what Moshiach will be wearing on his head? hat, shtreimel, spoddik, kipa serugah.. wait what kind of hat, borsalino, homburg, ribbon on the right, ribbon on the left, up brim, down brim... feh. Get a life, go learn, say tehillim, do something positive for yiddishkeit. ”
When moshiach comes wearing nothing we will all be shocked but it would be one great lesson. Stop judsging people by their looks. You think Moshe rabainu wore a Borsalino? We don't know what Moses looked like but I bet he had no Borsalino, Fancy leather shoes, BMW, and all the other chazarei that we judge people with.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:14 PM Lenny the Greek Says:
Pinny L is a fearless and courageous leader who has the guts to speak about real issues while Hamodia keeps their heads in the sand and tries to stay neutral.
Kudos to him and his clarion call for courgaeous unity!
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:14 PM Reb Yankel Says:
“ A little clarification please, which Yeshivas Brisk did R Lopatain receive semicha from. As far as I know, neither R Avrohom Yehoshua nor R Dovid offer semicha. R Aharon Soloveichick's Yesiva was called Brisk ChicagoN not plain Brisk so it begs the question which Brisk is referred to. ”
You know , it must've meant Brisk-Chicago because I can't even imagine this R' Lopatain going to R' Dovid/R' Avrohom Yehoshua.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:16 PM Shaul in Monsey Says:
The protests were wrong, sick and disgusting regardless of whether the mother is sick or guilty. Thoese protesters are fake frum and a useless waste of humanity. All the chesed in Mea Shearim won't change the fact that they have within their midst absolute beheimos who are closer in religion to islamic fascists than frum Jews.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:15 PM anti yated Says:
This lipshitz makes me sick who does he think he is does he truly believe he is the banner for Torah is this world most yeshivisha ehrlicha types are sick of him and his arrogance.
His beard and hair
say it all either take off your schup and grow a real beard he's a half baked opportunist and should be reconized for his insincerity .
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:25 PM Dag Says:
I used to see Rabbi Lopitan at Rav Aaron's yeshiva in chicago all the time in the early 80's. We all used to call it Brisk
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:30 PM Anonymous Says:
WHH
Come on everybody! Look upon this as a political tour, because that is exactly what it is. Everyone will shake hands, pose for photos, and pose for more photos, and peace and appropriate gestures of mutual acceptance, albeit reservedly from the platforms of the various ideologies, will be uttered and everyone will than return to their respective homes with good feelings all around with each feeling as though they have the upper hand.
We, meaning the Jewish People, have to focus on those things that we can agree on in order to enhance our mutual interests, of which we have according to the last count at Har Sinai, 613.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:27 PM Anonymous Says:
“ The protests were wrong, sick and disgusting regardless of whether the mother is sick or guilty. Thoese protesters are fake frum and a useless waste of humanity. All the chesed in Mea Shearim won't change the fact that they have within their midst absolute beheimos who are closer in religion to islamic fascists than frum Jews. ”
While from your comments, you seem to really be the epitome of humanity. You should never find yourself in a position to need something because the ones you decry as not being a part of humanity are the oned who are the ones who provide help and it would be hypocritical of you to acceot their help.
On the other hand, I am sure you are proud of your hypocrisy and would not hesitate to accept their help while spitting at them.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:34 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Let them go together! This way we could see the truth about the trip in the Yated. ”
The next time the Yated reports the truth about anything will be the first.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 02:02 PM Anonymous Says:
“ The next time the Yated reports the truth about anything will be the first. ”
Your problem is that you cannot handle the truth.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 02:19 PM TheTruth Says:
The moment R Lopitan included Pardes in the list of Torah institutions to vist, he lost all credibility. (Pardes, for those unfamiliar, is a Conservidox Egalitarian institution, whose hashkafos remain beyond the parameters of the acceptable, even according to mainstream modern orthodoxy). I just figured most people reading this blog are unfamiliar with Pardes, and don't realize R Lopitan's clear agenda by adding it to the places to visit.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 02:43 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Why can't he accept the invitation without a counter invitation. He made a point and accusation which was followed up by an invotation by lifshitz. Either accept or don't accept. Don't turn it into a whole achdus trying to get the chareidim to visit the mizrachi yeshivos. Next time lifshitz writes a critique of the hesder yeshivos claiming they are mechallel shaym shomayim then you can invite him for a tour. In the meantime it is irelevant and poltical bullying to force lifshitz into visiting these places ”
“ Why can't he accept the invitation without a counter invitation. He made a point and accusation which was followed up by an invotation by lifshitz. Either accept or don't accept. Don't turn it into a whole achdus trying to get the chareidim to visit the mizrachi yeshivos. Next time lifshitz writes a critique of the hesder yeshivos claiming they are mechallel shaym shomayim then you can invite him for a tour. In the meantime it is irelevant and poltical bullying to force lifshitz into visiting these places ”
“ Why can't he accept the invitation without a counter invitation. He made a point and accusation which was followed up by an invotation by lifshitz. Either accept or don't accept. Don't turn it into a whole achdus trying to get the chareidim to visit the mizrachi yeshivos. Next time lifshitz writes a critique of the hesder yeshivos claiming they are mechallel shaym shomayim then you can invite him for a tour. In the meantime it is irelevant and poltical bullying to force lifshitz into visiting these places ”
Well said, he's not answering the challange he is just trying to spin it in a dif way
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Jul 26, 2009 at 03:12 PM Anonymous Says:
I've had ENOUGH with rabbis (lower case, not capital letters) in general and specifically like this one: hungering for attention, inserting their personal opinions in any kind of news story as if anyone cares or needs to know what he thinks.
It is obvious that today's rabbis mostly are power-hungry, publicity hounds. Most have little or no respect for the Yidden but instead just want to make and maintain a name-financial base-power structure for themselves.
No wonder the young are running away from Yiddishkeit!
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Jul 26, 2009 at 03:50 PM Anonymous Says:
PARDES is conservative and serves as the college for apikorsus for the conservatives. Its ossur to enter this place.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 04:33 PM Anonymous Says:
“ A BIG waste of time ”
not a waste of time-they could both write it off on their tax returns as "travel expenses" for business
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Jul 26, 2009 at 05:29 PM Anonymous Says:
Popele like Rabbi Lipshictz will build the Beis Hamikdosh
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Jul 26, 2009 at 05:23 PM nisht aza tamevate Says:
this guy Lopitan...he's from chicago, he sounds just like another blown up ego baloon from chicago we just heard from calling for achdus "let me invite the blak professor & the white cop to come down for a beer at the white house & let's all b nice to each other" but an apology to the cop ?! never he's tooo bloated tooo full of himself for that.
Hey! Asher, u belittled your fellow yidden & u were called out on it, just apologise & ask mchila of the many yerushalmi yiden u were m'vazeh & don't try being nicey nice with your achdus tour phoney propositions. I don't think Reb Pinchus Lipshitz is guilty of the same halbonas ponim with regards to aish or merkaz harav etc. u offering him a tour apparently u overlooked the yated's bak 2bak coverage on the tragic terror attack at merkaz harav & the yateds beutiful covrg on aish's Rav Weinbergs passing, but u my freind apparently cannot find anything positive in the most humble yerushalmi yiden so apparantly, u hailing from chicago is evidently a case of oiy l'baal gavah oiy l'shchaino
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Jul 26, 2009 at 05:23 PM Anonymous Says:
One is full of himself and the other is a mechutzaf.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 08:02 PM Sam Says:
Help me here. I read the original letter last week. What is so new and bold about this rabbi's approach? He is saying what just about everyone else is saying. What am I missing?
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Jul 26, 2009 at 08:54 PM Sara Says:
How about Rabbi Lopatin ask his distinguished congregant Rahm to join the entourage through the streets of Yerushalayim and report his findings to the prez
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Jul 26, 2009 at 10:03 PM me Says:
Although I had forgotton about it, recently I was reminded of an incident that occurred in Miami around 1986 that illustrates what Frei Israeli think about frum Jews. My wife and I attended an meeting for potential olim at the federation building in downtown Miami. There ten couples all the men except one wore Kipot, most of the women had tichlach or sheitlach (hair coverings) The shliach (an IDF reserve officer)who was supposed to encourage us to make aliyah gave a discussion on the security situation in Israel and discussed Israeli military superiority over their Arab neighbors. One the group (Kach inclined) asked "What about the fifth column? What about the enemy from within?" I'm sure everyone attending understood the quesion to mean Palestinians and Israeli Arabs. The shliach reponded "What do you mean? The Datai'im?" I was shocked. I jumped up and asked him: "Who do you think you're talking to here?" He replied "NO, I meant the ultra orthodox." Ma'aseh she'hiya, bididee haveh uvda. This is a person who's supposed to encourage aliyah and has no problem insulting the people he's talking to because of his hatred for dati'im.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 09:46 PM Anonymous Says:
“ ah roov mit aza chup is bei mir nisht kein roov ”
Lioilam havay don kol odom likaf zchus. It's the three weeks and maybe his hair grows fast. (Agav I'm an ovol in yor, and haven't taken a haircut since paysach and my hair isn't that long.)
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Jul 26, 2009 at 10:51 PM Jacob Says:
What are Pinny Lipshit's rabbinical credentials? Nice hat and beard. Is he indeed a Rabbi?
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Jul 27, 2009 at 09:09 AM shmuel Says:
R Asher Lopatin is a sincere person. While he is a musmach of R Aaron Soloveichik z"tl he admittedly acts independent of R Aaron's psakim and hashakafos in many areas.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 09:32 AM Bark Says:
can fellow mispalel Rahm come too?
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Jul 27, 2009 at 10:42 AM midwesterner Says:
“ What are Pinny Lipshit's rabbinical credentials? Nice hat and beard. Is he indeed a Rabbi? ”
Pinny Lipschutz's credentials are that he was asked by the Gadol Hador (Rav Shach, zt"l) to open his newspaper. And that he was guided by the American Gadol Hador (Rav Elya Svei, zt"l) in how to run it, including almost all of his editorial hashkafos. And he continues to be guided to this day by Gedolim such as Rav Shmuel Kamenetzky and Rav Avrohom Chaim Levin.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 10:59 AM Rippin Pinchas Says:
“ Help me here. I read the original letter last week. What is so new and bold about this rabbi's approach? He is saying what just about everyone else is saying. What am I missing? ”
The point is that his approach was based on media spin and not looking into the facts. The rabbi decided to focus on the few rioters, like the anti-religious media, and not the thousands of peaceful protestors. He commented on something he had little or no information. Then he castigates people for not seeing the big picture!
This rabbi also made some strange comments like lets invite these people to yerushalayim for shabbos. He obviously does not understand the situation in EY.
At a time when there is talk about dan lecahf zechus, which among other things means I do not know the whole story and maybe there is more, this rabbi was a dismal failure.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 11:26 AM Anonymous Says:
i just think he is drinking to much spirit
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Jul 27, 2009 at 02:08 PM Anonymous Says:
Yated Ne'eman is a highly overrated newspaper.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 02:44 PM Anonymous Says:
“ What are Pinny Lipshit's rabbinical credentials? Nice hat and beard. Is he indeed a Rabbi? ”
He is a business man that knows how to don the yeshivish levush. Nothing more nothing less.