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Solomon Dwek [Photo: Tim McCarthy/staff Asbury Park Press]
"To do something like that to the community is a disgrace," Syrian community member Joy Abboud said.
Some in the Jewish community in Deal, New Jersey feel burned after five rabbis were among the 44 public servants rounded up by the feds, arrests only possible with Dwek's help.
"Dwek was such a good source for the government, and such a good cooperating witness, because he had that personality that made him very non-threatening to people," said Ausbury Park press reporter Jean Mikle.
Dwek was a government informant, some say, who was just saving his own skin.
At Dwek's home, there's no sign of the informant – and no guarantee, says one former prosecutor, that he'll join witness protection.
"There have been Mafia informants who didn't put themselves in the Witness Protection Program, so if ever there's a circumstance where one would fear for their personal safety, that would be it," former prosecutor Randy Mastro says. "These are principally financial crimes."
In a culture where one can be shunned for marrying outside the faith, it seems a fair bet that Dwek is now an outcast in the Syrian Jewish community, and perhaps even with his own family.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:23 PM Anonymous Says:
I have heard (second hand) that his parents tore kereia for him, and are in mourning.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:25 PM Anonymous Says:
Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:29 PM hershel Says:
He has the Halacha of a Musir who is Chayev Misa even in gulis. I hope that he won't find anyone to share or talk with and there should be hard protests in front of his house so he ends up like an outcast he is. Shame on u. U have done the worst thing the Jewish community has heard of. U have no place in yiddishkeit
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:29 PM hershel Says:
He has the Halacha of a Musir who is Chayev Misa even in gulis. I hope that he won't find anyone to share or talk with and there should be hard protests in front of his house so he ends up like an outcast he is. Shame on u. U have done the worst thing the Jewish community has heard of. U have no place in yiddishkeit
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:28 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I have heard (second hand) that his parents tore kereia for him, and are in mourning. ”
is that all they can do?
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:28 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I have heard (second hand) that his parents tore kereia for him, and are in mourning. ”
is that all they can do?
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:35 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
some hero= he tried to scam the bank for 50 million- forged documents-took mortgages on family properties without them knowing- hes a lowlife crook himself- who are you kidding?
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:34 PM zoly Says:
He is a real monster and a heartless thug who set up his own rabbi just to save himself for some crooket financial stuff he commited shame on him, if u combine all the alleged crimes commited by all the ppl round up, its not even gonna add up to a tenth of what the "drewk" crook was charged of ganvening 2 yrs ago b4 he became the biggest "muser" of our time!
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:34 PM Anonymous Says:
Is it true that their were more ares sts friday?
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:40 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
Wow #2 this has got to be the most twisted comment I've seen yet.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:39 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
he is still a moser let the people that were doing the wrongs correct themselves , if he was truly concerned about their well being he should have had conversations with them about there"ALLEGED" actions or asked others to do so, not help create a chilul hashem birabim and ruin these families
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:39 PM they should sit shiva Says:
“ I have heard (second hand) that his parents tore kereia for him, and are in mourning. ”
they should be. its worse what he did than to marry a shiksa.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:38 PM Anonymous Says:
how many og us wouldnt squeel if our lives depended on it.
I bet you 90 percent of us would do the same if our neck was onthe line.
before everyone curses me out think hard about it then writw away
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:38 PM dwek is the lowest of the low Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
he set everyone up you retard. its one thing if he was only the moser but first he set them up, entrapped them and then ratted them out to save his own hairy rumpus from federal bank fraud and mortgage fraud. this guys the bottom of the barrel, the lowest of the low, the crap of the crop, this gut is lower and dirteir and more disgusting than bin ladens doodyin a muddy pit somewhere in a cave in afganistan
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:37 PM Jack Says:
Where is this shagetz hanging out these days?
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:37 PM Lost in Space Says:
Doesn't anyone feel shame about what these "rabbanim" and other "Orthodox Yidden" have been doing? Why blame someone who recognized that he had cheated others and sought to do a tikkun by showing systematic corruption and lying? Our mosdos are supposed to be teaching klallim like "dina d'malkusa dina" - and we're "embarrassed" by someone who shows how yeshivos are laundering money for Mobster?
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:35 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
Are you nuts? According to halachah (not something you seem to be familiar with) there are very few things worse then what drek did.
Plus I don't believe for a second that person of Rabbi Kassin's stature was involved in money laundering operation. He probably had rachmunes on the "drek" and helped him in what he percived to be an hour of need.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:44 PM Anonymous Says:
“ is that all they can do? ”
“ is that all they can do? ”
picture yourself as his parent . what else woul d u do to yoour son??
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:44 PM Anonymous Says:
In Iraq it is customary that if they find an informer who gave out resistance fighters to Americans, his own family kills him as to avoid bloody multiyear feuds with families of informer's victims. Something for Dweks to think about...
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:43 PM Dwek - Drek Says:
The entire community is ashamed of such A Drek (Dwek) was able to cause so much pain by Enticing Inocent (yes otherwise inocent) people to take money from this Crooked Frank / this animal had to beg people to take his dirty stuff - most people didn't want to take it even . this is so called corroption ......
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:42 PM Anonymous Says:
“ is that all they can do? ”
“ is that all they can do? ”
what else should they do? their son is not a little boy anymore and he did this they are not responsible for his actions.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:41 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
you are a real jew hater. i think you are just jealous of the syrians.
P.S. dwek is half ashkenaz and half syrian
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:44 PM Anonymous Says:
“ is that all they can do? ”
“ is that all they can do? ”
picture yourself as his parent . what else woul d u do to yoour son??
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:44 PM Anonymous Says:
In Iraq it is customary that if they find an informer who gave out resistance fighters to Americans, his own family kills him as to avoid bloody multiyear feuds with families of informer's victims. Something for Dweks to think about...
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:43 PM Dwek - Drek Says:
The entire community is ashamed of such A Drek (Dwek) was able to cause so much pain by Enticing Inocent (yes otherwise inocent) people to take money from this Crooked Frank / this animal had to beg people to take his dirty stuff - most people didn't want to take it even . this is so called corroption ......
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:42 PM Anonymous Says:
“ is that all they can do? ”
“ is that all they can do? ”
what else should they do? their son is not a little boy anymore and he did this they are not responsible for his actions.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:41 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
you are a real jew hater. i think you are just jealous of the syrians.
P.S. dwek is half ashkenaz and half syrian
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:54 PM Anonymous Says:
Clearly...regardless of the crime, the three weeks means nothing to you guys...take a hint from all the horrible things that have been happening in jewish communities all over the world and do some teshuvah! Yes, no one is fault free here but do you people not sense an underlying message?! Creating more sina'a is NOT going to help solve things...note to the vosizneias website administrators: You might think twice about allowing for comments...it's not helpinig to unify the jewish people as a whole...
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:55 PM inside scoop Says:
Just for the record, rabbi kassin at first told him to take his crap elswere, only after drek begged him to "help" him and said that he can't put bread on the table did rabbi kassin try to help the bastard! Hope drek can't live with himself and commits suicide!
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:54 PM Anonymous Says:
“ how many og us wouldnt squeel if our lives depended on it.
I bet you 90 percent of us would do the same if our neck was onthe line.
before everyone curses me out think hard about it then writw away ”
I don't need to think even ONE second. You should be dead ashamed of yourself to even think of saying such a thing. Who threatened his LIFE?!! If he did a crime like he did then he desrves to sit. To bring down dozens of others of all stripes and colors is despicable to say the least!! Shame on you!
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:54 PM Anonymous Says:
Even if every one of the accused is 100% guilty, there is no possible excuse for Meseira. Would you be meshaddach with his children (forget Sefardi/ Askenazi)? To be a moser is to be an immediate outcast. My sympathies are with his family.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:51 PM zoly Says:
“ He has the Halacha of a Musir who is Chayev Misa even in gulis. I hope that he won't find anyone to share or talk with and there should be hard protests in front of his house so he ends up like an outcast he is. Shame on u. U have done the worst thing the Jewish community has heard of. U have no place in yiddishkeit ”
“ He has the Halacha of a Musir who is Chayev Misa even in gulis. I hope that he won't find anyone to share or talk with and there should be hard protests in front of his house so he ends up like an outcast he is. Shame on u. U have done the worst thing the Jewish community has heard of. U have no place in yiddishkeit ”
U r 100 pct right, I hope evry1 would stay distance from him, don't talk 2 him n his family as long he lives with them, (that's what the shilchom urich says) n I'm sure no1 would never ever deal with this thug, and if any1 c's him, cross over to the other side of the street, and forsure no1 should davim in the same minyen with him, just keep him him away from anything that has 2do with society
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:50 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
hero? While this may stop people from doing this sort of thing, there are menschlech ways that people could be made known about the severity of trying to money launder. (p.s. those arrested are still innocent until proven guilty, and there is definetly more to this whole story then most of us know, be dan likaf zechus especially during the nine days.) There is no way that this situation having destroyed so many lives was worth it. Greater education about this topic could accomplish the same thing. An idea by the way which has strongly been espoused by ben brafman, is to to teach business ethics and parts of finance law in yeshiva as many in the community are just ignorant and do not fully realize the severity of chas vishalom what could happen from different types of monetary shenanigans.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:49 PM cool masmid Says:
There's one point to this story that needs to be brought to everyones attention - and I don't think it has so far, and that is that as much as the feds and the media will like you to believe otherwise, the fact of the matter is they (the feds) did not infiltrate an existing money laundering scheme that's been in the works for many years - what the feds were able to do with Dwek's help was to prey on otherwise innocent people,people who had never previously engaged in money laundering. Furthermore Dweck used his situation that he is looking at long prison time and he needs away to launder money. In many cases people were hesitant but he begged them and out of rachmnus they did it - even if they took a percent.You can see how hard he tried to pull people down. My sources tell me that he was out to get certain people and
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:46 PM Anonymous Says:
Yes, the FBI will forgive him for his crimes that he did, but the family's whom he stole from and robed will not forgive him, How can the FBI give him such a deal on behalf of the people he stole from, we cannot stand still and let this crook be free.....
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:56 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Doesn't anyone feel shame about what these "rabbanim" and other "Orthodox Yidden" have been doing? Why blame someone who recognized that he had cheated others and sought to do a tikkun by showing systematic corruption and lying? Our mosdos are supposed to be teaching klallim like "dina d'malkusa dina" - and we're "embarrassed" by someone who shows how yeshivos are laundering money for Mobster? ”
This is the TIKKUN!! you think of?!! Do you know what a TIKKUN is?!! Was this his way of CORRECTING his wrong?!!
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:56 PM Anonymous Says:
Hey #16, Youre a self hating jew that would do just what this monster did. You know good and well that this is not the way to "TEACH" our community lessons. And besides mayne the government should stop eating the rich people's money,.....than they wouldnt feel the need to do these things...How about rage towards that, as apposed to your OWN PEOPLE. SIKO
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:50 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
hero? While this may stop people from doing this sort of thing, there are menschlech ways that people could be made known about the severity of trying to money launder. (p.s. those arrested are still innocent until proven guilty, and there is definetly more to this whole story then most of us know, be dan likaf zechus especially during the nine days.) There is no way that this situation having destroyed so many lives was worth it. Greater education about this topic could accomplish the same thing. An idea by the way which has strongly been espoused by ben brafman, is to to teach business ethics and parts of finance law in yeshiva as many in the community are just ignorant and do not fully realize the severity of chas vishalom what could happen from different types of monetary shenanigans.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:01 PM chuchem Lazer Says:
Talking in bais hamidrash is also a chilul hasem so evry one should tighten their own belt. As far the rabonim goes it not right for what they did the did geniva, I need to suport my family so is it right to steal? How woul you like if I walk in to you hous taking your wallet? I will say I NEED TO SUPORT MY FAMILY! This is exactly what these "Rabbis" did including the spinka
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Jul 25, 2009 at 09:45 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
You raise a good point. Dweck is obviously a vile human being but for the most part, I don't hear a lot of questioning within the communities served by these rabbonim questioning how their midos could have sunk to such a low level that they would engage in these schemes to make a few dollars.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:10 PM i know Says:
Its funny how the fBI claim it was ten years in the making. Firstly, ten years ago mayer camarano was 22 and in college, and some of the accused were in their teens, secondly if it was actually a work-in-progress for ten years, that's shamefull, beacause the whaole stink is about 3 million divided by 44 ppl! That's nada! They may as well put half of america b-hind bars! The FBI would be more usefull chasing down REAL criminals like dwek then shaming themselvs by making a small time bust into a career highlight. Disgust!
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:09 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Doesn't anyone feel shame about what these "rabbanim" and other "Orthodox Yidden" have been doing? Why blame someone who recognized that he had cheated others and sought to do a tikkun by showing systematic corruption and lying? Our mosdos are supposed to be teaching klallim like "dina d'malkusa dina" - and we're "embarrassed" by someone who shows how yeshivos are laundering money for Mobster? ”
Are you saying thay the crook that defrauded private people and banks, and in order to save his skin he went out on a major ENTRAPMENT SPREE to "set up" people in a trap where he baited them and lured them into shady business.
So who should be embarrassed?? the phony Drek crook that set them up and pulled them into this stuff!!
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:09 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
That's the most bizzare comment I have ever seen I my life!!
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM Anonymous Says:
“ he set everyone up you retard. its one thing if he was only the moser but first he set them up, entrapped them and then ratted them out to save his own hairy rumpus from federal bank fraud and mortgage fraud. this guys the bottom of the barrel, the lowest of the low, the crap of the crop, this gut is lower and dirteir and more disgusting than bin ladens doodyin a muddy pit somewhere in a cave in afganistan ”
Why would you say that he entrapped them, he did no such a thing, entrapment means when someone goes to an unsuspecting person, and tells him see I have this business idea that if you set up a money laundering scam and I will pay you 10% and the person sets up the business only because CW enticed them, however in this case, they had setup the money laundering business, he only brought to them a new deal which was backed by the Fed’s,
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM why was he in it in the first place? Says:
“ how many og us wouldnt squeel if our lives depended on it.
I bet you 90 percent of us would do the same if our neck was onthe line.
before everyone curses me out think hard about it then writw away ”
A polotician who was involved in a sacandal once came to the Brisker Rav Z"L for an eitzah as to how to get of the mess that he was in. The Brisker Rav told him the following story. There once was a town that had only one bal agalah. One day, a young man moved into town, and anounced that he was also a bal agalah. Understadably, the first bal agalah, who happened to be an older gentleman was quite upset at the prospective of loosing business. One day, these two individuals met on the street. The older wagon driver told the younger one, we live in a small town and there isn't enough business for both of us, so I will make you a deal, I will present you with a scenario, if you can answer my question, than I will give up my job, but if you don't know the answer than you must give up your job. The younger driver agreed to the proposal, and the older driver asked him, what would you do, if you would be transporting passengers in the winter, and your wagon got stuck in the mud? The younger driver said, I would get off and take the suitcases off to lighten the load until the horses would be able to pull the wagon out. The older driver replied, and that doesn't work what would you do/ The younger driver responded, I would tell the passengers to get out, and have them push the wagon, and hopefully, between the hosees pulling, and the people pushing, we would dislodge the wagon. The older driver asked, and if that didn't work what would you do? The younger driver was stumped, and meekly replied I don't know. The older driver then told the younger driver, in that case, you must give up your job. Curious as to what the correct answer was, the young driver asked the older driver, nu, what would you do? To which the older driver replied, a good driver knows that some roads should not be traveled on, because if one tries travelling theses roads, than they may get stuck, in the mud. The Brisker Rav told the polotician, that if you came to me before hand, I may have been able to assist you, but now, you are already stuck in the mud and there is nothing that could be done. Of course many of us may have agreed to a plea deal to save our own skins. But the greater question that we have of Mr. Dwek is, why was he in that position in the first place?
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM Anonymous Says:
“ he set everyone up you retard. its one thing if he was only the moser but first he set them up, entrapped them and then ratted them out to save his own hairy rumpus from federal bank fraud and mortgage fraud. this guys the bottom of the barrel, the lowest of the low, the crap of the crop, this gut is lower and dirteir and more disgusting than bin ladens doodyin a muddy pit somewhere in a cave in afganistan ”
Why would you say that he entrapped them, he did no such a thing, entrapment means when someone goes to an unsuspecting person, and tells him see I have this business idea that if you set up a money laundering scam and I will pay you 10% and the person sets up the business only because CW enticed them, however in this case, they had setup the money laundering business, he only brought to them a new deal which was backed by the Fed’s,
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:45 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Talking in bais hamidrash is also a chilul hasem so evry one should tighten their own belt. As far the rabonim goes it not right for what they did the did geniva, I need to suport my family so is it right to steal? How woul you like if I walk in to you hous taking your wallet? I will say I NEED TO SUPORT MY FAMILY! This is exactly what these "Rabbis" did including the spinka ”
incorrect. this is tax evasion not stealing. stealing is when i take something that belongs to you. tax evasion is not giving the govt what they are trying to take from me. stealing is assur. not paying taxes on the other hand according to many shitos isnt.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:45 PM Anonymous Says:
I am not her to defend nor to offend Dwek. Dwek was here before a big test (nesoyen) all he wanted was to save his A%# and maybe he should of be stronger then that but who am I to judge I was and should never bee in such a situation. But, unfortunately we live in a time where mesirah became so easy there is tens of musrim in our shuls that are mosrim just because they want to get even with people. I think this story should serve as a wake up call. I believe that hashem is a rachim vechanun more then any one of us and this whole thing is a gezeirah min hashumayim let us all be misboinen for what sin this was I think that anyone with brains will agree to me that there is strong grounds to believe that it was for the sin of not expelling real open speaking mosrim according to hallacha. Don't get carried away with emotions please
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:44 PM Anonymous Says:
He approached dozens of shulls, and yeshivas, however most of them said no to illegal deals. And something that we should all be proud of, most of our shulls and yshivas are in desperate need of funds and yet they had the honesty and integrity to say NO. And the ones that said yes were mostly doing him a favor they fell for his sobbing heart breaking story.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:43 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Are you saying thay the crook that defrauded private people and banks, and in order to save his skin he went out on a major ENTRAPMENT SPREE to "set up" people in a trap where he baited them and lured them into shady business.
So who should be embarrassed?? the phony Drek crook that set them up and pulled them into this stuff!! ”
I dont understand all those that were involved with this low life, everyone knew that he was in trouble with the law, and everyone knows how the goverment law officers (FBI etc) operate and they try always to get bigger and better fish, what were these people thinking, and dont tell me its hindsight, because this is not the first time that this has happened. Was the greed so great that they forgot who they are dealing with.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:43 PM Loshon Hora Says:
An important point has to be made.
The FBI felt that we have crooks between us, and they couldn't infilterate, they can't stand the high standard of honesty by us.
I had problems with crooks in business someyears back I called the FBI, because it was across state lines, they explained that due to understaffing they can't take on cases less than 6 figures, divide this money =
The stock market is riddled with corruption, from the top down. Goldman Sachs has software to practically front run, they just had someone arrested fearing it would get into the wrong hands, that was said without shame in court. Goldmans men & cronies are in all government possitions, most small retail stock holders have been wiped out or close to it over the last two years. If you complain, the feds will say they are under staffed, & here they had staff to set up a sting on previously unsuspected people.
"THAT SAID WHO WAS THE INFORMANT? !!THE ONE & ONLY TO EVER GET A BANK TO GIVE HIM 25 MILLION WITHOUT ANY COLLATERAL.
IF HE WAS ABLE TO CONVIMNCE A BANK HE HAD SOME POWER THAT OTHERS DON'T HAVE. HIS TAPES WERE ILLEGALLY MADE & WHO KNOWS HOW THEY WERE ALTERED, AS WE CAN READ FROM THE INDITMENTS THE RABBIS HAD PURE RACHMONUS ON THIS MANIPULATIVE MONSTER.ESPECIALLY THE OLD RABBI.
I will add that I personally wouldn't do business with a crook like that, if he claimed hunger, I would tell him that he could apply for charity.
I will BL"N try to be even more careful, than I am to stay away from people who don't conduct honest business.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:52 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Its funny how the fBI claim it was ten years in the making. Firstly, ten years ago mayer camarano was 22 and in college, and some of the accused were in their teens, secondly if it was actually a work-in-progress for ten years, that's shamefull, beacause the whaole stink is about 3 million divided by 44 ppl! That's nada! They may as well put half of america b-hind bars! The FBI would be more usefull chasing down REAL criminals like dwek then shaming themselvs by making a small time bust into a career highlight. Disgust! ”
FBI did not say this was 10 years in the making. Stop fabricating stories to make your point.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:52 PM a shame for all Says:
I just cry for all the shame that is out there for the world to see. I am thinking about trafficking of human organs....What can motivate people to do such things and yes I know it is money but I cry when I think my fellow Jews would do such hideous crimes.You are focusing on the masser and while I find him despicable, I cannot help but think about what the others were doing and I am talking about the organs. I hope we as Jewish people have higher morals and can put H' in front of us before the temptation of selling your soul to the "sutton". How low can we go?Yes I cry over everything here and not just Dweck.I cry for the what Jews have lost and how our children must look at these "frum" individuals who have lost the fear of Heaven.How Gd must have been put aside for greed.Is this not the real tragedy here?Eicha will have special meaning for me because our B.H has once again been contaminated and soiled by these crimes. As soon as I saw their photos,I broke down and cried- for the Tzizis hanging out in such a disgraced way-because it symbolized a Jew who has lost his way and got caught up in a dirty business where we do not belong.Our tzizis is supposed to symbolize our uniforms of being a light unto other nations.I think we have much to cry about.Don't you think so?It hurt my children to see this-we look down in shame.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:52 PM Anonymous Says:
“ you are a real jew hater. i think you are just jealous of the syrians.
P.S. dwek is half ashkenaz and half syrian ”
“ you are a real jew hater. i think you are just jealous of the syrians.
P.S. dwek is half ashkenaz and half syrian ”
So what are you say now that he is sfashkenaz?
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:48 PM Anonymous Says:
“ how many og us wouldnt squeel if our lives depended on it.
I bet you 90 percent of us would do the same if our neck was onthe line.
before everyone curses me out think hard about it then writw away ”
you may well be right. two points: a)this does not make it right, and b)this ought to be another reason (aside for the obvious one) to be honest in our business dealings even when doing a transaction "between inzerer" Yidden, as you may never know what issues the other is dealing with, and what he may be wearing.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:47 PM Jicky Says:
“ Doesn't anyone feel shame about what these "rabbanim" and other "Orthodox Yidden" have been doing? Why blame someone who recognized that he had cheated others and sought to do a tikkun by showing systematic corruption and lying? Our mosdos are supposed to be teaching klallim like "dina d'malkusa dina" - and we're "embarrassed" by someone who shows how yeshivos are laundering money for Mobster? ”
I don't know what's going on in your head it might be you are in the money laundering business ...I never heard of a Mosod Laundering money ...Please do Teshuvah the yemie hadin are coming
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:47 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Hey #16, Youre a self hating jew that would do just what this monster did. You know good and well that this is not the way to "TEACH" our community lessons. And besides mayne the government should stop eating the rich people's money,.....than they wouldnt feel the need to do these things...How about rage towards that, as apposed to your OWN PEOPLE. SIKO ”
Calling people names shows how little you have to say for yourself. Justifying breaking the law because of high taxes is lame. Besides, taxes have been relatively low the past few years. What's more is that tax rates would have been even lower if everyone paid the taxes they were supposed to pay. When some people don't pay taxes, others, who are law abiding and honest, end up making up the shortfall.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:47 PM the truth Says:
If everything is so corrupt. How do u know that the fbi is not corrupt. Maybe he spoke to them for hrs asked for mercy and then the last 2 or 3 conversations he recorded. I know several who were arrested. they would never do such a think especially when u walk up to them "hey mr' I need u to do this crime' no one in their right mind would do it. Even if they would they would never talk openly. Let's do a crime. Om yisroel is a ppl who love to help ppl in despair.. And he got a hold of ppl who can't stand fast with his begging for mercy. I know of someone he was running after over a year to help him. but he refused.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:46 PM #14 Says:
“ Why would you say that he entrapped them, he did no such a thing, entrapment means when someone goes to an unsuspecting person, and tells him see I have this business idea that if you set up a money laundering scam and I will pay you 10% and the person sets up the business only because CW enticed them, however in this case, they had setup the money laundering business, he only brought to them a new deal which was backed by the Fed’s, ”
“ Why would you say that he entrapped them, he did no such a thing, entrapment means when someone goes to an unsuspecting person, and tells him see I have this business idea that if you set up a money laundering scam and I will pay you 10% and the person sets up the business only because CW enticed them, however in this case, they had setup the money laundering business, he only brought to them a new deal which was backed by the Fed’s, ”
first of all that young new mayor was in office for less than a month when he was offered bribes by dwek so it is impossible for him to have been accepting bribes for yrs so that is called entrapment. second of all these guys were doing this laundering business for yrs but what right does he have to rat them out. he himself was one of the biggest crooks in new jersey and in the frum velt. the only reason he was ratting them out was because he was facing jail time. all of his business dealings were fraudalent. he commiited bank and mortgage fraud in the amount of millions and probably faced more jail time than these guys who he ratted out so he saved his behind and became a moser on his own community and brothers and chief rabbi for crying out loud.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:40 PM Anonymous Says:
both sides in this business ought to be ashamed. if the accused are guilty, then jail is where they ought to be, and informing on them was the right thing to do; the problem is that dweck is a crook himself, and did not do this out of any desire to do the right thing, but rather to cut a nice deal for himself, in which case, he had no right to be moser.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:58 PM ..........gevaldig Says:
good...let them go to court and say what they did was legal....let's see how far they get with that LUDIKREOUS idea
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:58 PM Anonymous Says:
When a police officer shoots radar he is waiting for someone that is speeding and breaking the law. The FBI and IRS in this case, were not looking to catch people that were breaking the law. they enticed and convinced innocent desperate people to break the law so that they can make advancement in there own career they also waited until they had a large number of people to arrest and tried to link them all together as a large international money laundrying and body parts mafia so that they could make a large splash and news conference. They deserve the same that Dwek has coming to him.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:56 PM Anonymous Says:
“ That's the most bizzare comment I have ever seen I my life!! ”
That you and others on this site find comment #2 bizzare is a reflection of how corrupt our community has become. Dwek IS evil, but it seems that there there are rotten apples everywhere.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:56 PM efry Says:
“ Doesn't anyone feel shame about what these "rabbanim" and other "Orthodox Yidden" have been doing? Why blame someone who recognized that he had cheated others and sought to do a tikkun by showing systematic corruption and lying? Our mosdos are supposed to be teaching klallim like "dina d'malkusa dina" - and we're "embarrassed" by someone who shows how yeshivos are laundering money for Mobster? ”
there are enough sites for non- Jews or reform Jews get off this site ', according to the shilcon aruch the USA dos not have a din malcus and is not in all aspects a din of dina demalchsa ' learn Judaism before going on a Jewish site and make a foul out of your self.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:37 PM mottel Says:
“ Doesn't anyone feel shame about what these "rabbanim" and other "Orthodox Yidden" have been doing? Why blame someone who recognized that he had cheated others and sought to do a tikkun by showing systematic corruption and lying? Our mosdos are supposed to be teaching klallim like "dina d'malkusa dina" - and we're "embarrassed" by someone who shows how yeshivos are laundering money for Mobster? ”
your thought process, and #2's, are so warped and twisted, so as to be almost unrecognizable as yiddish. you're always on the wrong side of every debate here on vin; always defending the wickedly corrupt like dwek, and pouring fire and brimstone on anyone with a connection to traditional ehrliche yiddishkeit
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:35 PM Anonymous Says:
“ He has the Halacha of a Musir who is Chayev Misa even in gulis. I hope that he won't find anyone to share or talk with and there should be hard protests in front of his house so he ends up like an outcast he is. Shame on u. U have done the worst thing the Jewish community has heard of. U have no place in yiddishkeit ”
“ He has the Halacha of a Musir who is Chayev Misa even in gulis. I hope that he won't find anyone to share or talk with and there should be hard protests in front of his house so he ends up like an outcast he is. Shame on u. U have done the worst thing the Jewish community has heard of. U have no place in yiddishkeit ”
No hershel, if yiddishkeit was holy and G-d fearing it would step forward and apologize not for Dwek but for the actions of these so-called rabbis. They are not teachers of Torah, they are teachers of crime.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 10:06 PM Robert Says:
wasnt it just 2 or 3 years ago the spinka group in calif or brooklyn got messed up in a similar disgrace.money laundering tax fraud etc.....regardless of dweck why arent the rabbis leading by a moral example?? even if dweck enticed them i still see a moral failing if all that is alleged is true...i am far from perfect myself however there is a difference between ones own failings and institutionalizing this kind of behavior..
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:03 PM A Pushita Yid Says:
“ how many og us wouldnt squeel if our lives depended on it.
I bet you 90 percent of us would do the same if our neck was onthe line.
before everyone curses me out think hard about it then writw away ”
Then you obviously belong to the less than .5% that would. How many yidden sat in jail even in recent history just because they can't give out the real names of the criminals charged? For most of us it doesn't take such careful thinking. We know what right and that's all. BTW, this monster wasn't even cleared yet... I wonder what a bargain he's getting... remember, "soif ganev l'tleyah"!
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:03 PM A Pushita Yid Says:
“ how many og us wouldnt squeel if our lives depended on it.
I bet you 90 percent of us would do the same if our neck was onthe line.
before everyone curses me out think hard about it then writw away ”
Then you obviously belong to the less than .5% that would. How many yidden sat in jail even in recent history just because they can't give out the real names of the criminals charged? For most of us it doesn't take such careful thinking. We know what right and that's all. BTW, this monster wasn't even cleared yet... I wonder what a bargain he's getting... remember, "soif ganev l'tleyah"!
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM HAGTBG Says:
“ incorrect. this is tax evasion not stealing. stealing is when i take something that belongs to you. tax evasion is not giving the govt what they are trying to take from me. stealing is assur. not paying taxes on the other hand according to many shitos isnt. ”
Your false distinction is precisely the rationalization that has led to the humiliation of our community and beliefs. When you don't pay your legal obligation that means everyone else has to pay more.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM Anonymous Says:
“ A polotician who was involved in a sacandal once came to the Brisker Rav Z"L for an eitzah as to how to get of the mess that he was in. The Brisker Rav told him the following story. There once was a town that had only one bal agalah. One day, a young man moved into town, and anounced that he was also a bal agalah. Understadably, the first bal agalah, who happened to be an older gentleman was quite upset at the prospective of loosing business. One day, these two individuals met on the street. The older wagon driver told the younger one, we live in a small town and there isn't enough business for both of us, so I will make you a deal, I will present you with a scenario, if you can answer my question, than I will give up my job, but if you don't know the answer than you must give up your job. The younger driver agreed to the proposal, and the older driver asked him, what would you do, if you would be transporting passengers in the winter, and your wagon got stuck in the mud? The younger driver said, I would get off and take the suitcases off to lighten the load until the horses would be able to pull the wagon out. The older driver replied, and that doesn't work what would you do/ The younger driver responded, I would tell the passengers to get out, and have them push the wagon, and hopefully, between the hosees pulling, and the people pushing, we would dislodge the wagon. The older driver asked, and if that didn't work what would you do? The younger driver was stumped, and meekly replied I don't know. The older driver then told the younger driver, in that case, you must give up your job. Curious as to what the correct answer was, the young driver asked the older driver, nu, what would you do? To which the older driver replied, a good driver knows that some roads should not be traveled on, because if one tries travelling theses roads, than they may get stuck, in the mud. The Brisker Rav told the polotician, that if you came to me before hand, I may have been able to assist you, but now, you are already stuck in the mud and there is nothing that could be done. Of course many of us may have agreed to a plea deal to save our own skins. But the greater question that we have of Mr. Dwek is, why was he in that position in the first place? ”
You get 90% to the real point and then you lose it.
Using your parable, the Rabbis should have known to stay off the road to corruption.....
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:14 PM Anonymous Says:
“ first of all that young new mayor was in office for less than a month when he was offered bribes by dwek so it is impossible for him to have been accepting bribes for yrs so that is called entrapment. second of all these guys were doing this laundering business for yrs but what right does he have to rat them out. he himself was one of the biggest crooks in new jersey and in the frum velt. the only reason he was ratting them out was because he was facing jail time. all of his business dealings were fraudalent. he commiited bank and mortgage fraud in the amount of millions and probably faced more jail time than these guys who he ratted out so he saved his behind and became a moser on his own community and brothers and chief rabbi for crying out loud. ”
First don’t mixes up bribery with money laundering, the mayor was charged with bribery and how long he was in office? is irrelevant, he was in local politics before being elected to the mayor office, and if you take a bribe you should go straight to jail without collecting $200,00, I agree with you that he CW could and should have not became a undercover crook and doing the governments job, but that said he still did not entrapped them, they had it set up before he came to them.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:13 PM Gadolwannabe Says:
“ Are you nuts? According to halachah (not something you seem to be familiar with) there are very few things worse then what drek did.
Plus I don't believe for a second that person of Rabbi Kassin's stature was involved in money laundering operation. He probably had rachmunes on the "drek" and helped him in what he percived to be an hour of need. ”
Maybe you should all read the criminal complaints before posting anything on this site. Rabbi Kassin is guilty as sin, Read the FBI agent's affidavit. I always knew that the Syrian community were a bunch of crooks but now I know that even their Chachamim are crooked.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:13 PM Anonymous Says:
“ there are enough sites for non- Jews or reform Jews get off this site ', according to the shilcon aruch the USA dos not have a din malcus and is not in all aspects a din of dina demalchsa ' learn Judaism before going on a Jewish site and make a foul out of your self. ”
Your command of English and Halacha are about equal.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM Anonymous Says:
Many of the people that were ensnared by dwek could legitimately claim “temporary insanity”. Dwek first came to public attention in 2006 when he was arrested for trying to scam PNC Bank out of more than $50 million. He deposited a phony $25 million check and then spent $22 million of it before he was caught. He allegedly tried a similar scam soon after.
Solomon Dwek was well known in the Syrian community .Inasmuch as the people arrested from the Syrian community knew about his past fraud and still trusted a person like Solomon Dwek means that they were temporarily insane at the time dwek ensnared them. A sane person would not trust or have any business dealings with such a criminal.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:19 PM HAGTBG Says:
“ both sides in this business ought to be ashamed. if the accused are guilty, then jail is where they ought to be, and informing on them was the right thing to do; the problem is that dweck is a crook himself, and did not do this out of any desire to do the right thing, but rather to cut a nice deal for himself, in which case, he had no right to be moser. ”
This is not an issue or 'rights' though I certainly agree there is a lot of shame to go around here. Dweck appears to have placed himself in his predicament as much as the people now arrested appear to be responsible for having placed themselves in theirs. People here are so angry at Dweck for being a 'moser.' It seems to me there are 2 ways the community can go here: We can put more emphasis on stopping 'rats.' Or we can try to emphasize more the need to be honest with our money dealings and taxes.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:19 PM Tzi Bar David Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
I am with #2 on this one; these rabboim were trafficking in HUMAN KIDNEYS. This is beyond all comprehension, and had to be stopped; and if the person stopping it is Solomon Drek, so be it. Further these kidneys were all removed at Mt. Sinai Hospital (not Bellevue or St. Vincent's) where NO ONE asked a question as to why non-English speaking immigrants were getting off the plane and going straight to the hospital to have a kidney removed. There is A LOT more coming on this one...who at Mt Sinai was cooperating in this scandal?
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:15 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
YOU talk like Goy shame on you you dont blong ina yidha site
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:21 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I just cry for all the shame that is out there for the world to see. I am thinking about trafficking of human organs....What can motivate people to do such things and yes I know it is money but I cry when I think my fellow Jews would do such hideous crimes.You are focusing on the masser and while I find him despicable, I cannot help but think about what the others were doing and I am talking about the organs. I hope we as Jewish people have higher morals and can put H' in front of us before the temptation of selling your soul to the "sutton". How low can we go?Yes I cry over everything here and not just Dweck.I cry for the what Jews have lost and how our children must look at these "frum" individuals who have lost the fear of Heaven.How Gd must have been put aside for greed.Is this not the real tragedy here?Eicha will have special meaning for me because our B.H has once again been contaminated and soiled by these crimes. As soon as I saw their photos,I broke down and cried- for the Tzizis hanging out in such a disgraced way-because it symbolized a Jew who has lost his way and got caught up in a dirty business where we do not belong.Our tzizis is supposed to symbolize our uniforms of being a light unto other nations.I think we have much to cry about.Don't you think so?It hurt my children to see this-we look down in shame. ”
Stop crying for the wrong people. This guy is a true Moiser and caused unimmaginable pain to so many people.
He's guilty the Halacha states Moridin Vlo Malin.
By the Meraglim cried for the wrong thing and that's why we have Tisha Ba"av. Having Rachmonos on Achzorim is making you an Achzur on rachmonim
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:21 PM Anonymous Says:
why is this dwek's fault and why be harsh on him? these rabbis and yiddin are an embarrassment for the jewish people... now everyone hates us. Dwek didn't make them do anything illegal - they did it themselves. they all deserve the justice they are given IF THEY ARE PROVEN guilty by a court of law.
i'm sorry, I still don't understand how people could possibly find an illegal organ transplant ring possibly ethical.. and why it's dwek's fault just for being involved with them. they still broke the law and did things highly illegal. dwek might be wrong but everyone else has free will.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Maybe you should all read the criminal complaints before posting anything on this site. Rabbi Kassin is guilty as sin, Read the FBI agent's affidavit. I always knew that the Syrian community were a bunch of crooks but now I know that even their Chachamim are crooked. ”
you and your family will be punished for your comments. before tisha bav you should be more careful.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:27 PM berniesboy Says:
This seems to a story we have to really learn from. Daven and learn better
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:33 PM Anonymous Says:
“ FBI did not say this was 10 years in the making. Stop fabricating stories to make your point. ”
You're the one fabricating. Did you watch every minute of the press conference with the FBI? I did.
They clearly said that this was a 10 year long investigation.
So you need to apologise to the commenter you insulted, and next time don't talk if you don't know.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:32 PM moishela Says:
What's so wrong with trafficking organs? It helped ppl and the donors agreed for the money? Were exactly is the crime?
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:37 PM HAGTBG Says:
“ What's so wrong with trafficking organs? It helped ppl and the donors agreed for the money? Were exactly is the crime? ”
Uh, the crime was that it violated the law.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:41 PM good american Says:
“ I am not her to defend nor to offend Dwek. Dwek was here before a big test (nesoyen) all he wanted was to save his A%# and maybe he should of be stronger then that but who am I to judge I was and should never bee in such a situation. But, unfortunately we live in a time where mesirah became so easy there is tens of musrim in our shuls that are mosrim just because they want to get even with people. I think this story should serve as a wake up call. I believe that hashem is a rachim vechanun more then any one of us and this whole thing is a gezeirah min hashumayim let us all be misboinen for what sin this was I think that anyone with brains will agree to me that there is strong grounds to believe that it was for the sin of not expelling real open speaking mosrim according to hallacha. Don't get carried away with emotions please ”
i think you're a 100 percent right. we as a people have been too quiet watching the corruption of our culture where people are mosrim and rabbonim turn a blind eye because these mosrim give - have money!!! if the mosrim schlesinger would have been excommunicated from the jewish community then maybe dweck would have realized that this is the way of the jewish community and he would have taken a different direction. however, if there's no consequences to your actions, why not do what's good for you???? it's time we start doing what we as a jewish people have to do!!! this is our strength and we must stay strong, starting tomorrow we must excommunicate all mosrim from our midst lest they entrap you and you're next!!!!!
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:43 PM Anonymous Says:
i read that he tried to cash a 25M check at the bank drive-through. 25m? I'm not going to suggest sitting at the desk, but at least go see a teller! a tipish!
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:48 PM Pioneer Bear Says:
So this is what someone does to try and get himself out of trouble. Let him "DREK" sleep in a tent all year, and have the local animals enjoy him.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 11:59 PM Anonymous Says:
remember Obama Couldnt find a treasury secy. its impossible to be 100% legal
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM vestin Says:
Look up the halacha in Rambam, Hilcohos Chovel U' mazik, perek ches and Shulchan Aruch Siman Shin Pay Ches. There is no heter to be a moiser period, a moser is called a rasha, and Aiyn lo chelek b'olam Haba. For what is permitted to be done to a moiser, look up the halacha yourself, he is basically considered a rodeif,
And for those who say that say this doesnt apply to our democratic governments, see igros moshe choshen mishpat chelek aleph, ches.
He is a moiser, rasha, rodeif, and at a minimum should be put in a world wide cheirim.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:30 AM Anonymous Says:
The East Coast Robert Kasiser
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:26 AM Anonymous Says:
I don't understand why everyone is blaming "rabbonim" for organ trafficking. It was ONE person doing it not even a rabbi. I also don't want to justify crime, but how in the world are moisdos supposed to survive doing everything legally? The economy is down, parents aren't paying... It seems some are FORCED to cheat in order to survive.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:14 AM shocked Says:
I am amazed that people see nothing wrong with human organ trafficking.I wrote about what this chilul H' is on this site-another article and someone called me a self-hating Jew. I am really amazed that people do not know the laws? first of all and do not see how much profit was being made at the expense of poor and desperate people.And I am called names because I said it is horrible.?People think cheating on taxes is not so bad?I also think Dweck is awful but those who did business with him also committed a sin.Forget the FBI- how about doing things like that as frum Jews?How about being aware that H' sees everything?Is anybody seeing what I see?
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:35 AM Anonymous Says:
“ I don't understand why everyone is blaming "rabbonim" for organ trafficking. It was ONE person doing it not even a rabbi. I also don't want to justify crime, but how in the world are moisdos supposed to survive doing everything legally? The economy is down, parents aren't paying... It seems some are FORCED to cheat in order to survive. ”
how about getting a part time job....rashi and the rambam were both in business. so was the chofetz chaim...
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:15 AM Anonymous Says:
“ First don’t mixes up bribery with money laundering, the mayor was charged with bribery and how long he was in office? is irrelevant, he was in local politics before being elected to the mayor office, and if you take a bribe you should go straight to jail without collecting $200,00, I agree with you that he CW could and should have not became a undercover crook and doing the governments job, but that said he still did not entrapped them, they had it set up before he came to them. ”
i wasnt mixing up anthing. the mayor was newly appointed and young. imagine someone coming to you with 5000 cash and a promised 5000 cash later. it is completely illegal to accept it but why are you trying to make him accept. this is a classic case of entrapment. look the word up. this guy was a clean cut good guy and boom one day this moiser shaigitz lowlife hands him 10 grand. i mean come on. its like putting a beautiful woman in the same room as bill clinton and then not expecting anthing to happen between them. as for the launderers. no it was not entrapment but he was setting them up and as you said has no right to do the govts job.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 03:47 AM aron Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
are you stupid he was running a ponzi scheme afew years ago and tryed to cash a 25 million dollar check oich mir a hero
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Jul 26, 2009 at 03:25 AM ASHAMED Says:
Oy vey! Yidden wake up! We are in Golus, and we can deal with all types of situation, we can deal with anti semitism, goyim that claim to like us and then proven otherwise, goyim that hate us from the start, people that want to kill us arabs that want to kill us, all that we can live with and unfortunately have dealt with it throughout our existense, the one thing klaa yisroel has to really fear is a Moiser! He is the guy that officially belongs within our communities and unfortunately our gedolim at times are not strong or not able to solve such problems as the only solution is our tfillar of three times a day that Velamalshiniml Al Tehi Tikva!!! If this Dwek is a malshin he is chayev misa, I hope tha the SY community will defend the Syrian Community and their leaders better than us Ashkenazim who dont have the guts!
And to the parents, if its true that they tore kriah, my heart shudders and shares their pain!
How low can we go????
Witness protection programs are not easy for a Yid, a moiser should never be accepted anywhere chas veshalom. Even what is termed an ed median (witness of the state) is brought down that he is still chayev!
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Jul 26, 2009 at 02:35 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Doesn't anyone feel shame about what these "rabbanim" and other "Orthodox Yidden" have been doing? Why blame someone who recognized that he had cheated others and sought to do a tikkun by showing systematic corruption and lying? Our mosdos are supposed to be teaching klallim like "dina d'malkusa dina" - and we're "embarrassed" by someone who shows how yeshivos are laundering money for Mobster? ”
One thing is certain: The black market is as old as Adam Harishon and was built into Brias Haolam. And by the way, to all you self hating individuals who slander Rabbanim and Gemach heads: Know this: None of the arrested have led fancy lifestyles. All have been in the interest in the Klal. And for all you stingers, if you had only supported Torah institiutions and Gemachim by giving charity, you would not be pressed now to dole out the millions it will take to bail out these Chashuva Askanim and Rabbanim. It is the Nine days now, a time when we must amass as many Z'chusim as we can. It is our duty to stand firmly together in our support for all those arrested.
Unfortuantely, Mosdos Hatorah are floundering. It would be astounding for you to know the true budgets of our Yeshivos. Tuitions do not cover more than a third of any Yeshiva budget. As we are not entitled to much in the way of government funding as the Goy'she schools are, it is easy for any Askan on behalf of our institutions and Gmachim to fall victim to these kind of tests.
All of you, stand back, refrain from criticizing, and say Tehillim. That's your job now.
Nobody appreciates your selfish, senseless reproach.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 02:32 AM Lipa Says:
A bissel koosher gelt, mit mitzvos oif der vevlt......
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Jul 26, 2009 at 02:30 AM mesirah Says:
dont be so excited about dweck. i know some chassidishe rabbis with the full levush that are real mosrim! big time! why should'nt he be one?
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:52 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Look up the halacha in Rambam, Hilcohos Chovel U' mazik, perek ches and Shulchan Aruch Siman Shin Pay Ches. There is no heter to be a moiser period, a moser is called a rasha, and Aiyn lo chelek b'olam Haba. For what is permitted to be done to a moiser, look up the halacha yourself, he is basically considered a rodeif,
And for those who say that say this doesnt apply to our democratic governments, see igros moshe choshen mishpat chelek aleph, ches.
He is a moiser, rasha, rodeif, and at a minimum should be put in a world wide cheirim. ”
reb moshe also says that time clocks on shabbos is also assur . do you use timers? dont bother answering!
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:51 AM Anonymous Says:
“ I don't understand why everyone is blaming "rabbonim" for organ trafficking. It was ONE person doing it not even a rabbi. I also don't want to justify crime, but how in the world are moisdos supposed to survive doing everything legally? The economy is down, parents aren't paying... It seems some are FORCED to cheat in order to survive. ”
a ganev with a reason is still a ganef
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Jul 26, 2009 at 05:27 AM Anonymous Says:
“ The entire community is ashamed of such A Drek (Dwek) was able to cause so much pain by Enticing Inocent (yes otherwise inocent) people to take money from this Crooked Frank / this animal had to beg people to take his dirty stuff - most people didn't want to take it even . this is so called corroption ...... ”
“ The entire community is ashamed of such A Drek (Dwek) was able to cause so much pain by Enticing Inocent (yes otherwise inocent) people to take money from this Crooked Frank / this animal had to beg people to take his dirty stuff - most people didn't want to take it even . this is so called corroption ...... ”
Unless you were there and saw what happened, you can't say if this is true or not. As for all the others who have deemed him a moser, unless any of you are poskim, I would shut up. Lashon hara does not go well with the 9 days.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 08:24 AM Anonymous Says:
Does he have children? Where could they go?
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Jul 26, 2009 at 08:25 AM Anonymous Says:
“ I don't understand why everyone is blaming "rabbonim" for organ trafficking. It was ONE person doing it not even a rabbi. I also don't want to justify crime, but how in the world are moisdos supposed to survive doing everything legally? The economy is down, parents aren't paying... It seems some are FORCED to cheat in order to survive. ”
i'm not cheating and i'm doing just fine! thanks for asking!!!!
but your statement makes me wonder what you're guilty for!
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Jul 26, 2009 at 07:44 AM Learned About Mesirah The Hard Way Says:
yes, mesirah is a very serious crime. I learned my lesson the hard way. i had a neighbor who was blocking my driveway constantly. After numerous times of asking him not to do so, I finally called the cops who had his car towed.
That did it. I was called a moser, I was kicked out of shul and eventually had to leave brooklyn because I was made an outcast wherever I went. Eventually, I had my name changed and my family moved to a new city to get a new start.
Now, if I suffered all this (and probably lost my olam habah) over a blocked driveway, you can bet what's gonna happen to this guy.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 08:38 AM Anonymous Says:
“ incorrect. this is tax evasion not stealing. stealing is when i take something that belongs to you. tax evasion is not giving the govt what they are trying to take from me. stealing is assur. not paying taxes on the other hand according to many shitos isnt. ”
are you kidding???? thats what can get people into trouble. Dinah D'Malchusa DInah, taxes are law, youe have to pay them.period.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 08:36 AM e hy Says:
After reading about 100 postings, I come away feeling even worse than I did before reading this article. Two thirds of the postings defend the criminals who engaged in money laundering, bank fraud and organ sales and blame it all on Dweck for "entrapping" them or being a Moser. Where is the sense of outrage about the behavior of these people themselves. Dweck will rot in XXXX but these ehrleche yidden may not be headed directly to gan aden.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 08:49 AM They hate us regardless Says:
“ why is this dwek's fault and why be harsh on him? these rabbis and yiddin are an embarrassment for the jewish people... now everyone hates us. Dwek didn't make them do anything illegal - they did it themselves. they all deserve the justice they are given IF THEY ARE PROVEN guilty by a court of law.
i'm sorry, I still don't understand how people could possibly find an illegal organ transplant ring possibly ethical.. and why it's dwek's fault just for being involved with them. they still broke the law and did things highly illegal. dwek might be wrong but everyone else has free will.
”
"these rabbis and yiddin are an embarrassment for the jewish people... now everyone hates us. "
They hate us regardless of what we do, and no im not paranoid.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 08:44 AM Chananya Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
Hero? May I remind you - "May there be no hope for informers..."
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Jul 26, 2009 at 09:22 AM Zev Lander Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
Can you at least sign your real name on your idiotic comment instead of "anonymous" so we know to stay clear of "heroes" like dwek & yourself...
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Jul 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM Anonymous Says:
“ yes, mesirah is a very serious crime. I learned my lesson the hard way. i had a neighbor who was blocking my driveway constantly. After numerous times of asking him not to do so, I finally called the cops who had his car towed.
That did it. I was called a moser, I was kicked out of shul and eventually had to leave brooklyn because I was made an outcast wherever I went. Eventually, I had my name changed and my family moved to a new city to get a new start.
Now, if I suffered all this (and probably lost my olam habah) over a blocked driveway, you can bet what's gonna happen to this guy. ”
And then you woke up from your dream, without any proof I think you made up this story
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Jul 26, 2009 at 10:38 AM Anonymous Says:
Threatening a federal witness with death is a crime. Keep that in mind when you leave comments.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 10:32 AM you liar Says:
“ yes, mesirah is a very serious crime. I learned my lesson the hard way. i had a neighbor who was blocking my driveway constantly. After numerous times of asking him not to do so, I finally called the cops who had his car towed.
That did it. I was called a moser, I was kicked out of shul and eventually had to leave brooklyn because I was made an outcast wherever I went. Eventually, I had my name changed and my family moved to a new city to get a new start.
Now, if I suffered all this (and probably lost my olam habah) over a blocked driveway, you can bet what's gonna happen to this guy. ”
your story is baloney you liar its so obvious. you didnt change your name or move and it never happened. fet a life and stop making up crap to get your stupid point through
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Jul 26, 2009 at 10:59 AM kc Says:
“ He has the Halacha of a Musir who is Chayev Misa even in gulis. I hope that he won't find anyone to share or talk with and there should be hard protests in front of his house so he ends up like an outcast he is. Shame on u. U have done the worst thing the Jewish community has heard of. U have no place in yiddishkeit ”
“ He has the Halacha of a Musir who is Chayev Misa even in gulis. I hope that he won't find anyone to share or talk with and there should be hard protests in front of his house so he ends up like an outcast he is. Shame on u. U have done the worst thing the Jewish community has heard of. U have no place in yiddishkeit ”
Are you totally nuts !!!!!!!!!!!
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:09 AM Victor S. Says:
Can someone explain? I fail to see why everyone is so mad with Mr. Dwek? all he did, was that he helped the US Govmt. to get criminals of the streets so what??
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Jul 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM esther Says:
“ Talking in bais hamidrash is also a chilul hasem so evry one should tighten their own belt. As far the rabonim goes it not right for what they did the did geniva, I need to suport my family so is it right to steal? How woul you like if I walk in to you hous taking your wallet? I will say I NEED TO SUPORT MY FAMILY! This is exactly what these "Rabbis" did including the spinka ”
although money laundering is illegal,we need to realize that there is a profound difference between one who steals for himself and one who does so to help others.it's still wrong but trying to help another yid is not the same thing as stealing to support a lavish lifestyle.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM proud sephardic jew Says:
“ Maybe you should all read the criminal complaints before posting anything on this site. Rabbi Kassin is guilty as sin, Read the FBI agent's affidavit. I always knew that the Syrian community were a bunch of crooks but now I know that even their Chachamim are crooked. ”
you are a sephardic hater.go crawl back under your filthy rock.we should amend the sephardic edict against marrying converts to include marrying ashkenaz.a pure sepharadi woudnt bemoser moser.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 12:33 PM Anonymous Says:
oychit a moseret a gita shidduch for dweck
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:29 PM bigmouth Says:
“ Dwek may turn out to be the "hero" of this whole affair. Their is no sense of shame or embarrasment among these yiddin. They are angry that their rabbis were caught engaing in these alleged crimes. Where is the sense of "we need to be doing T'shuva"?? If this moser serves as a catalyst for cleaning up this mess, it will have been worth it. ”
#2 u think your smart it looks like u need a lot of attention u have the most replies and u always have 2 say different then every 1 if every 1 says now its day u will say night what a attention seeker/self hating jews of dos ganef brent dos hitel LOL
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Jul 26, 2009 at 01:58 PM Judah Says:
“ I have heard (second hand) that his parents tore kereia for him, and are in mourning. ”
its not true- being that im syrian i would know, but seriously his family should be
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Jul 26, 2009 at 02:03 PM Judah Says:
“ FBI did not say this was 10 years in the making. Stop fabricating stories to make your point. ”
Actually you might want to watch the official video. It's all in there chump.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 08:07 PM formally Says:
most posts are very funny. Everybody wants to blame Dwek, get real. The reason the rabbonin got arrested was because they where involved in criminal activities Also Moser does not apply in our times if one looks at the reason for the for Mosser. Also what the rabbonin did is probably a Torah prohibition and moser is a rabbinic prohibition.
I an sorry to say but I think people just do not want to admit that this rabbonon where involved in criminal activities (you guys always give excuses no matter what a frum person was arrested for, and if found guilty you say antisemitism) therefore all your venom are against Dwerk, and not ant the people who committed the crime.
For those who say innocent until proven guilty, the same should be applied to Dw erk
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Jul 26, 2009 at 08:36 PM formally Says:
The headline is wrong it should be
Jewish Community Feels Betrayed By Rabbonem (who are accused of doing criminal activities)
Don't forget if the rabonem behaved the way a frum person is supposed to behave there could not be a mosser.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 09:58 PM No Issur At All Says:
“ most posts are very funny. Everybody wants to blame Dwek, get real. The reason the rabbonin got arrested was because they where involved in criminal activities Also Moser does not apply in our times if one looks at the reason for the for Mosser. Also what the rabbonin did is probably a Torah prohibition and moser is a rabbinic prohibition.
I an sorry to say but I think people just do not want to admit that this rabbonon where involved in criminal activities (you guys always give excuses no matter what a frum person was arrested for, and if found guilty you say antisemitism) therefore all your venom are against Dwerk, and not ant the people who committed the crime.
For those who say innocent until proven guilty, the same should be applied to Dw erk ”
To # 123 Mr Formally Frum
1) The Halacha of Mosser does apply today just as it always did.
2) There is no Issur Derabanan and No Issur Deoraysa to Cash anyones Check and charge a service fee for Check Cashing.
It was not only Mutar but was a Mitzvah to help someone who claimed he didn't have what to eat.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 09:51 PM Joseph Says:
“ One thing is certain: The black market is as old as Adam Harishon and was built into Brias Haolam. And by the way, to all you self hating individuals who slander Rabbanim and Gemach heads: Know this: None of the arrested have led fancy lifestyles. All have been in the interest in the Klal. And for all you stingers, if you had only supported Torah institiutions and Gemachim by giving charity, you would not be pressed now to dole out the millions it will take to bail out these Chashuva Askanim and Rabbanim. It is the Nine days now, a time when we must amass as many Z'chusim as we can. It is our duty to stand firmly together in our support for all those arrested.
Unfortuantely, Mosdos Hatorah are floundering. It would be astounding for you to know the true budgets of our Yeshivos. Tuitions do not cover more than a third of any Yeshiva budget. As we are not entitled to much in the way of government funding as the Goy'she schools are, it is easy for any Askan on behalf of our institutions and Gmachim to fall victim to these kind of tests.
All of you, stand back, refrain from criticizing, and say Tehillim. That's your job now.
Nobody appreciates your selfish, senseless reproach. ”
"None of the arrested have led fancy lifestyles"
Um, that's not entirely true...
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Jul 26, 2009 at 10:07 PM Profile of the Sociopath Says:
In my opinion Dwek is a classic case of Pathological Sociopath, someone who has no conscience could figuratively speaking stab people in the back and SMILE before and after the act (look at the photo of his face and examine his smile).
Profile of the Sociopath:
1) Glibness and Superficial Charm
2) Manipulative and Conning
3) Grandiose Sense of Self
4) Pathological Lying
5) Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
6) Shallow Emotions
7) Callousness/Lack of Empathy
8) Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
9) Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Dwec is virtually a TEXTBOOK PERFECT CASE of a classic Pathological Sociopath.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 09:40 PM Stop! Says:
#73 your words are disgusting.I am not sephardic but to point fingers at the Syrian community and their leader is vile and a sin.You are not allowed to talk that way about a Torah scholar and you don't know what the facts are. And how dare you point fingers at the syrians when Mr Rosenbaum doesn't sound syrian to me and neither do the other names mentioned. Stop condemning a community of people and making them the scapegoat here just because of your prejudices and hateful ways.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 09:31 PM Sephardim Says:
to 118. Excuse me, but what are you saying?Does it matter if someone is from Syria or Europe?WE ARE ONE PEOPLE and we have the same Torah.I lived on Ocean P'kway and I always heard people say "I am Syrian"and I always asked the same cliche"- Do the Syrians consider you Syrian? You are a Jew first and we need to love and support one another as ONE nation. We are ALL going through this nightmare because we as Jews feel the pain of what some of them did. Stop talking so ugly just because someone else did.It is wrong. We are ONE nation.You should love your brother no matter where he comes from.
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Jul 26, 2009 at 10:39 PM heshy Says:
“ Unless you were there and saw what happened, you can't say if this is true or not. As for all the others who have deemed him a moser, unless any of you are poskim, I would shut up. Lashon hara does not go well with the 9 days. ”
Absolutely right! Let's not condemn poor, misunderstood Dweck unless you are a Poisek and/or were there! Same goes for Adolf H! Unless you were there and are a poisek, let's not talk Loshon Hora!
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Jul 26, 2009 at 10:39 PM formally Says:
“ To # 123 Mr Formally Frum
1) The Halacha of Mosser does apply today just as it always did.
2) There is no Issur Derabanan and No Issur Deoraysa to Cash anyones Check and charge a service fee for Check Cashing.
It was not only Mutar but was a Mitzvah to help someone who claimed he didn't have what to eat. ”
2) There is no Issur Derabanan and No Issur Deoraysa to Cash anyones Check and charge a service fee for Check Cashing.
they where not running a cash checking business that is legal and you can charge a fee. What they did is write a donation for mr so-and-so for 100,000 and then giving back 90,000 in cash so the person can claim 100,000 donation on his raxes
Mossur is says the reason for it and certain circumstances if you look it up it not in a case if the yid really does something wrong and it is talking where they where dictatorship where no one could even dream of getting a fair trial or punishment.
people here think mossur is equivalent to avoida sora
again the main shock that some so called hoily men where running a money laundering scheme.
Funny many people said they did that to feed his family what would you say I had to work on shobbos to feed my family what would you say
stop making excuses for frummies who do wrong, yes we have some bad apples except it
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Jul 27, 2009 at 12:00 AM what exactly is a mosser Says:
I understand that mosser is something bad-I learned this from this site actually. My question is if someone witnessed a murder and it involves Jews, what is the halocho?I don't want to know personal opinions but what does Jewish law say?Under what circumstances does someone become a mosser?Is it just any snitch?Does it mean you cannot go to a Bais Din if you have to tell on someone? I am confused.I thought you are not supposed to put a stumbling block in front of someone- so if you know someone is a crook, can you tell others about him?and if so, is that a mosser too?If someone knows Jew. law, can you pls explain to those of us who don't know?
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Jul 27, 2009 at 08:53 AM informants Says:
“ I understand that mosser is something bad-I learned this from this site actually. My question is if someone witnessed a murder and it involves Jews, what is the halocho?I don't want to know personal opinions but what does Jewish law say?Under what circumstances does someone become a mosser?Is it just any snitch?Does it mean you cannot go to a Bais Din if you have to tell on someone? I am confused.I thought you are not supposed to put a stumbling block in front of someone- so if you know someone is a crook, can you tell others about him?and if so, is that a mosser too?If someone knows Jew. law, can you pls explain to those of us who don't know? ”
I think that if someone wittnesed a murder then he/she is supposed to report it to a Jewish court, just not to secular court, and the Jewish court will deal with it according to Jewish law, which could sometimes mean reporting it to authorities, secular courts, etc.
However, if someone knows that someone WANTS to kill someone, he/she is supposed to report it to authorities, in order to prevent the crime. I am not an expert on Jewish law, I just think so.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 10:14 AM Anonymous Says:
I don't understand - did the FBI have info before they sent Dwek to these people - or was their only crime in actually agreeing to the crimes he tried to involve them into?
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Jul 27, 2009 at 11:12 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Can someone explain? I fail to see why everyone is so mad with Mr. Dwek? all he did, was that he helped the US Govmt. to get criminals of the streets so what?? ”
Indictments are probably just the tip of the iceberg..................................
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Jul 27, 2009 at 01:10 PM Shmully Says:
What am mess! What a Chiliul Hashem! In the Nine Days yet! This makes the Kamtza bar Kamtza Episode look like a stroll in the park.
The sheer destructiveness of the Moser is shocking. Who knows how many victims he tried to ensnare that we haven't even read about - only because he had nothing to hang on them? To the Yidden he is a pariah and the Goyim see him as a backstabber. But the greatest damage is the awareness that an apparent Yid can be so destructive to others and ultimately to himself.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 02:30 PM Anonymous Says:
To everybody who is condeming the rabbonim and all the people who participated, do you always pay the sales tax when paying with cash or pay the taxes for your domestic help, ALSO laws of the land.