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Ramapo, NY - Mesifta Bais Shraga to Sue Town over Yeshiva Rejection |
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Jul 27, 2009 at 02:49 PM
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Ramapo, NY - The sponsors of a proposed yeshiva and dormitory on Camp Hill Road are suing the town over its rejection of the plan.
While the Zoning Board of Appeals voted 3-2 in favor of the project on June 18, representatives of the Town Attorney's Office and the Department of Building and Planning declared that a supermajority, or a majority plus one, was needed to overcome the county's objections to the plan.
The lawsuit, filed in state Supreme Court in New City, states that concerns of the Rockland Department of Planning had been addressed by the town Planning Board.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 04:29 PM Yossi Says:
Most communities who sued the local boards usually end up winning..The majority of those board members HATE jews and the FEDERAL courts see that with their eyes closed..Hatzlocho rabbe and we wish you to succeed...
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Jul 27, 2009 at 05:47 PM Anonymous Says:
the rejection of Bais Shraga was a direct backlash to Tartokovers request to build 1000 housing units for 'dayanim'.
Bais shraga is a yeshivah thats been in monsey for 60 years. When people try to game the syatem, it ends up hurting genuine torah institutions.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 06:01 PM Thinking out loud Says:
Nebach, a lot of the board members are Jews themselves most of the time who just want their peaceful existence guaranteed and a Yeshiva does bring noise. Good noise - but noise nonetheless.
I don't think there is any good solution to this at all. Either way there is going to be some hard feelings.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 06:36 PM Anonymous Says:
We have another story every week about some yeshiva or chicken schlachthois or other yiddeshe facility wanting a waiver or exception from the zoning laws. Maybe they should consider the option of buying property zoned for the use they have in mind rather than having to waste all this money in court. Also, the recent behavior of the Bobover and Tartkover are also hurting legitimate yiddeshe institutions.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 07:20 PM Anonymous Says:
“ We have another story every week about some yeshiva or chicken schlachthois or other yiddeshe facility wanting a waiver or exception from the zoning laws. Maybe they should consider the option of buying property zoned for the use they have in mind rather than having to waste all this money in court. Also, the recent behavior of the Bobover and Tartkover are also hurting legitimate yiddeshe institutions. ”
The Bobover and Tartkover are legitimate chassidus....they are not some cult created for the purpose of evading land use laws or zoning.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 09:09 PM Anonymous Says:
“ We have another story every week about some yeshiva or chicken schlachthois or other yiddeshe facility wanting a waiver or exception from the zoning laws. Maybe they should consider the option of buying property zoned for the use they have in mind rather than having to waste all this money in court. Also, the recent behavior of the Bobover and Tartkover are also hurting legitimate yiddeshe institutions. ”
Unfortunately, litigation is the only language that most of the different municipalities undertand. If a Bd member votes yes for a project, he'll be the target to get kicked out of office. So the Bds vote NO and when the organization wins in Court, the Bd can tell the public, "I voted NO but the Court forced us to allow this. We had no choice." Works well for both sides - just put the cost of the law suit into the price of the project and allow time (lots of it) for the court decision. Never throw in the towel - evenutally you will win!
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Jul 27, 2009 at 10:05 PM Working Stiff Says:
“ the rejection of Bais Shraga was a direct backlash to Tartokovers request to build 1000 housing units for 'dayanim'.
Bais shraga is a yeshivah thats been in monsey for 60 years. When people try to game the syatem, it ends up hurting genuine torah institutions. ”
Perhaps the real reason is that this a absolutely gorgeous historical piece of property in a very quiet area. The people living there who are not Jewish or frum moved there for the quiet country surroundings and now a Yeshiva wants to bring noise and traffic to their tranquil area. I initially played the anti Semite card until I took a ride to the area to see the property. It is one of the oldest houses in the area dating back to pre civil war. They want a variance to destroy this piece of property. I don't think they had a right to buy it for a yeshiva. A yeshiva belongs in an area in which the zoning would at least be compatible before asking for a variance and not for a change of use.
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Jul 27, 2009 at 11:36 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Perhaps the real reason is that this a absolutely gorgeous historical piece of property in a very quiet area. The people living there who are not Jewish or frum moved there for the quiet country surroundings and now a Yeshiva wants to bring noise and traffic to their tranquil area. I initially played the anti Semite card until I took a ride to the area to see the property. It is one of the oldest houses in the area dating back to pre civil war. They want a variance to destroy this piece of property. I don't think they had a right to buy it for a yeshiva. A yeshiva belongs in an area in which the zoning would at least be compatible before asking for a variance and not for a change of use. ”
of course they had a right to buy it, just as the neighbors have a right to fight it, they are both playing by the rules, let the court decide who has a better argument
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Jul 28, 2009 at 12:13 AM Anonymous Says:
I must say, that no one here knows what the real story is, I happen to be a the planning board and zoning board meetings, they are not asking for use variance, the only asking for some set back and maybe an area veriance and it happens to be that the a majority of the board memebers are frum jews and they did vote yes for this, and the ones who voted against whould probably also vote yes, but didn't want to take the heat when not needed as thay were under the imppresion that 3-2 Will make anyhow. It happens to be that they are not suing the board they are suing the town because of their attorney decided that it needs 4-1.