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London - Kosher Phones Approved by the Rabbis Finally Reach Stamford Hill

Published on: July 30, 2009 05:56 PM
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London - Kosher phones — adapted to prevent access to the Internet — have finally arrived in London with the blessing of the strictly Orthodox rabbinate.

Rose Communications, a company in Stamford Hill, north London, is inviting customers to trade in their old mobiles free for the new handsets, which can also be modified to exclude the text messaging service.

Although kosher phones have been available in Israel for several years, it took the efforts of a local non-profit organisation, Hakol Kol — meaning “voice only” — to introduce them to London.

Maxi Rose, director of Rose Communications, said he had imported a couple of thousand of the mobiles which have been modified by Israeli engineers.

“We are astonished by the demand and the willingness of the people to give up their all-singing, all-dancing phones for the new handsets,” he said. “We’ve had inquiries from non-Jewish organisations who want them for their kids.”

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Rabbinical leaders have been concerned to protect children from unsuitable information accessible via the internet, while a problem with text messaging, Mr Rose explained, has been unsolicited messages sent by companies trying to promote adult sex material.

In Israel, he said, kosher phones had succeeded “beyond anyone’s belief” with even non-Orthodox parentsbuying them.

The rabbinate of the Union of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations issued a notice to say that from now on, only internet- and message-free mobiles should be used.

If anyone required a phone with Internet access for business, they should consult a qualified rabbi first, the Union authorities said. There was “no permission to use it for matters which are not connected to earning a living” and a person should not be seen with it “in public places like shuls… and weddings”.

They added: “For their private use they should have a second mobile which is approved by the rabbis. ”Text message connections were also “very dangerous” and had “caused much destruction in important families”, they warned.

Young boys and girls, they said, should not be given mobiles at all.


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 Jul 30, 2009 at 06:01 PM Anonymous Says:

When will the rabbonim let parents be parents instead of trying the father us all?

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 Jul 30, 2009 at 05:56 PM Anonymous Says:

Oh thank God,all of our community's problems are solved!

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 Jul 30, 2009 at 06:23 PM Anonymous Says:

I think they should ban phones all-together do to the enormous amount of loshon hora spoken on them.

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 Jul 30, 2009 at 05:39 PM Anonymous Says:

Haven't these people heard of blocking internet access on regular phones. I blocked it on my kid's phones - no problem.

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 Jul 30, 2009 at 06:29 PM Anonymous Says:

all phones can b kosher. u have to choose to have the internet on the phones. you can get a regular phone from any phone company with no internet. not a big deal.

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 Jul 30, 2009 at 05:04 PM bunimfrombrooklyn Says:

in Israel the kosher plans sre much cheaper and get as low as 7 agurot per minute(kosher pelephone to kosher pelephone)

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 Jul 30, 2009 at 10:02 PM Anonymous Says:

had “caused much destruction in important families” . . . What is THAT supposed to mean? And what exactly is an unimportant family!? the thought of dividing people into "important" and "unimportant" families reeks of a divisive and condescending attitude that is far too common in the chareidi community.

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 Jul 30, 2009 at 11:35 PM Anonymous Says:

Relax. I assume he said "Chashuv", as in "noteworthy", NOT as in "Important".

The clear (to me) meaning is that even people brought up in strict homes can be affected by this issue and so they, too, benefit from Kosher phones.

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 Jul 30, 2009 at 11:53 PM Frum techie Says:

Kosher phones! now that's a great idea. Well, i'am wondering whats next: a kosher Ipod that wont play lipa Schmeltzer songs (please don't steal this idea!).

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 Jul 31, 2009 at 06:10 AM Anonymous Says:

Glad to see that the Rabbis have a sense of priority for this important decision, rather than, say, lowering the price of their chickens.

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 Jul 31, 2009 at 04:24 AM merkin Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

I think they should ban phones all-together do to the enormous amount of loshon hora spoken on them.

I agree. They should ban phones altogether and they should make a chumra that it is ossur to speak unless one is davaning or saying Torah, due to the enormous amount of loshon hora spoken. In fact, they should make it ossur to talk to another person.

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 Jul 31, 2009 at 01:09 AM Anonymous Says:

I have Sprint and I blocked internet access If i wanted i could block the text messaging as well. My son has a phone he cant change anything without it showing up on my bill.

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 Jul 31, 2009 at 08:48 AM FAL Says:

It's good to know that in this day and age we have so many people who are constantly on guard 'advising' us, as adults, what we can and cannot do so that we dont have to think for ourselves.

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 Jul 31, 2009 at 09:52 AM Anonymous Says:

it's all business. Convince some rabonim and rosh yeshivos, etc. and viola!!
I just wish that I would have thought of this idea first and peddled it off.

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 Jul 31, 2009 at 10:13 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to # 12
When you see it on your bill its to late already

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 Jul 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to # 12
When you see it on your bill its to late already

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 Aug 04, 2009 at 07:23 AM Anonymous Says:

Haven't these people heard of blocking internet access on regular phones. I blocked it on my kid's phones - no problem.

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 Aug 20, 2009 at 09:08 AM משה Says:

Sorry to tell you, but i have heard leider a few stories that boys and girls went off the yidishe way because of their phones, it started with internet, but it finished with sms! So even if you block the internet, wrong sms can come in and go out of a phone. And if the rabbunim see that this is an important issue dont be more clever then them and listen to them now, better then to have to run to them when its too late for advise how to handle the case..........

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