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Boy released from Hadassah Photo Credit: Ch 2 Isreal
Relatives of the boy picked him up from the hospital will be caring for him until the completion of the legal proceedings against his mother.
Last month, news of the alleged abuse and the subsequent arrest of the mother sparked nearly a week of riots in Jerusalem.
Members of an extreme haredi sect, to which the mother and her family belonged, charged that the hospital staff and police were acting recklessly in accusing the mother of wrongdoing. According to the woman and her supporters, the boy suffered from multiple sicknesses which prevented him from eating properly.
Doctors charged, however, that it was the mother who caused the boy to fall ill repeatedly through his lack of proper nourishment. They claimed that a hidden video showing the mother removing a vital IV from her son's arm as he was confined to a hospital bed was evidence enough to turn to the police.
Since her arrest, the mother has consistently refused to cooperate with investigators, and has repeatedly failed to show up for both court appointments and psychiatric evaluations. Last week she was deemed fit for trial, and her next hearing is scheduled for August 4.
The boy, who was admitted to Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital in Jerusalem weighing a meager 7 kg, was eventually transferred to Shiba Medical Center after the hospital staff received numerous threats, and following continued protests outside the facility. When he was released, the boy was said to weigh over 10 kg.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 07:53 AM Anonymous Says:
Kil hakovod to the great doctors at the Shiba Medical center who with hashem's guidance provided this yinglach a refuah shalaymah. Now there has to be some continued monitoring of the mother to assure he remains in good health.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 08:05 AM oh my Says:
for anyone who defended this woman, look at that kids legs, clearly he was not given proper nutrients by his mother.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 08:05 AM Anonymous Says:
All of a sdden he's gaining weight? This new hospital healed him in one week how strange
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Jul 31, 2009 at 08:11 AM Anonymous Says:
Why do we have to be negative? Do you relize now that the hospital has to release the video they claim to have. It dosent say feedig tube only IV line in arm. That's a big differance. Some more info for who were always sure the mother is wrong
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Jul 31, 2009 at 08:12 AM meir Says:
look how quicly he gained weight. How come he could not at home?
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Jul 31, 2009 at 08:11 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Kil hakovod to the great doctors at the Shiba Medical center who with hashem's guidance provided this yinglach a refuah shalaymah. Now there has to be some continued monitoring of the mother to assure he remains in good health. ”
Now that he is away from the doctor at Hadasah, he recovered enough to be discharged. IY"H, he will be reunited with his mother soon.
BTW, what does "this yinglach" mean? Sounds like you arevtrying to speak a language you do not know.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 08:21 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Now that he is away from the doctor at Hadasah, he recovered enough to be discharged. IY"H, he will be reunited with his mother soon.
BTW, what does "this yinglach" mean? Sounds like you arevtrying to speak a language you do not know. ”
this poster who otherwise seems intelligent enough keeps referring to kinderlach as yinglach. its driving me crazy.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 08:19 AM caution Says:
People before you judge anyone pls read this article and previous ones also a must to read is the article in this weeks mishpacha mag. one an interview with family and foreign people who offered to help with kid in hospital and another an interview with dr yair birn baum. they are all so conflicting and don't seem to match details.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 08:36 AM Anonymous Says:
Wow in one week they heeld him and for thouse who think it's the mothers foult how can it be the child was in hadeseh for the last 2 years under doctors care and here in one week wow and if u read the Israeli news you will see that the police have told litzman the minster if health to halt his investigeation of hadasha hospital anyone no why what are they scard off
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Jul 31, 2009 at 08:44 AM To OH MY - the Hospital had been "feeding" him, not the mom Says:
#2 makes an irrational libel:
"clearly he was not given proper nutrients by his mother."
- He was in the care of the Hadassah Hospital, not the mother.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 08:43 AM Rippin Pinchas Says:
"extreme haredi sect"
Imagine if someone said this about a Mizrachi: so and so is an extreme zionist. The media would be up in arms.
If this report is true, I am glad the boy is recovering. Then again, who knows what is true?
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Jul 31, 2009 at 09:05 AM Anonymous Says:
“ for anyone who defended this woman, look at that kids legs, clearly he was not given proper nutrients by his mother. ”
I was thinking the exact same thing. They're like matchsticks. Nebach!
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Jul 31, 2009 at 09:31 AM yoelyg Says:
I will never use hadassa hospital they don't have jewish racmuns
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Jul 31, 2009 at 09:36 AM Anonymous Says:
The doctor was asked one question: Why did he give the child Ankinra (which according to Professor Moshe Tishler of the Rheumatology Department in Ichilov Hospital causes severe side effects, including a significant drop in weight) and not allow him to be fed anything else otherwise? The doctor does not want to answer.
The prosecution does not allow the Health Dept. committee do any investigation on the doctor and hospital?
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Jul 31, 2009 at 09:40 AM Dag Says:
So is the other hospital part of the cover up too? Did they not know he was on chemo? Did they know that they experimented on him?
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Jul 31, 2009 at 10:09 AM Avraham Says:
“ for anyone who defended this woman, look at that kids legs, clearly he was not given proper nutrients by his mother. ”
or the doctors did something to him. I don't get it, why are we so quick to blame the mother.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM "Obviousely"? Says:
“ The doctor was asked one question: Why did he give the child Ankinra (which according to Professor Moshe Tishler of the Rheumatology Department in Ichilov Hospital causes severe side effects, including a significant drop in weight) and not allow him to be fed anything else otherwise? The doctor does not want to answer.
The prosecution does not allow the Health Dept. committee do any investigation on the doctor and hospital? ”
For all those who want to blame the frum rather than the secular by saying "Obviousely ......."
You must also say that Obviously it was the Hadasa Hospital Doctor who administered the wond drug Ankinra, which causes weight loss, and Hadasa is the one to blame and not the mother.
The reason he gained weight so quickly in the new hospital is "Obviousely" because Hadasa Hospital was forced to stop using the Wrong Drug, Drug which caused the problem, the Drug Ankinra.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM "Obviousely"? Says:
“ The doctor was asked one question: Why did he give the child Ankinra (which according to Professor Moshe Tishler of the Rheumatology Department in Ichilov Hospital causes severe side effects, including a significant drop in weight) and not allow him to be fed anything else otherwise? The doctor does not want to answer.
The prosecution does not allow the Health Dept. committee do any investigation on the doctor and hospital? ”
For all those who want to blame the frum rather than the secular by saying "Obviousely ......."
You must also say that Obviously it was the Hadasa Hospital Doctor who administered the wond drug Ankinra, which causes weight loss, and Hadasa is the one to blame and not the mother.
The reason he gained weight so quickly in the new hospital is "Obviousely" because Hadasa Hospital was forced to stop using the Wrong Drug, Drug which caused the problem, the Drug Ankinra.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 09:46 AM e. grossmann Says:
“ this poster who otherwise seems intelligent enough keeps referring to kinderlach as yinglach. its driving me crazy. ”
they simply don't know that yinglach is plural and yingele would be singular...
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Jul 31, 2009 at 10:52 AM Anonymous Says:
“ For all those who want to blame the frum rather than the secular by saying "Obviousely ......."
You must also say that Obviously it was the Hadasa Hospital Doctor who administered the wond drug Ankinra, which causes weight loss, and Hadasa is the one to blame and not the mother.
The reason he gained weight so quickly in the new hospital is "Obviousely" because Hadasa Hospital was forced to stop using the Wrong Drug, Drug which caused the problem, the Drug Ankinra. ”
“ For all those who want to blame the frum rather than the secular by saying "Obviousely ......."
You must also say that Obviously it was the Hadasa Hospital Doctor who administered the wond drug Ankinra, which causes weight loss, and Hadasa is the one to blame and not the mother.
The reason he gained weight so quickly in the new hospital is "Obviousely" because Hadasa Hospital was forced to stop using the Wrong Drug, Drug which caused the problem, the Drug Ankinra. ”
Reb Scientist, if the mother was not abusing the boy, then how in the world did he get sick in the first place? What illness exactly does he have, and how would your royal highness treat it?
If Hadassah made any mistakes, then it was because they administered too many tests trying desperately to find out what was wrong with the boy, when they had no rational reason to believe it was the mother all along.
Once the mystery was solved, and it was simple starvation, they immediately fixed the problem and made the boy better by giving him enough food.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 12:24 PM tzirel Says:
“ Why do we have to be negative? Do you relize now that the hospital has to release the video they claim to have. It dosent say feedig tube only IV line in arm. That's a big differance. Some more info for who were always sure the mother is wrong ”
I guess that bh ur not familliar wth iv's but the have special liquid that's called tpn and that is food thru the vein via iv. Should never knw of it. By the way did u see that kids legs for a 3yr old
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Jul 31, 2009 at 01:50 PM huvy Says:
anikinra is not for children, if you read the literature on it. which means by putting him on this drug, they were endangering the child. also, it is suspected that 15 months on this drug causes cancer -- which is my guess of what the onco at Hadassa's research target here was trying to see and why this kid was on the oncology ward.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 01:33 PM merkin Says:
For those of you attacking the hospital, do you really think that a Jewish hospital which is renowned for caring for the sick and injured for so many years would want to purposefully abuse a little boy? For what reason? There is no possible motive for what you are saying. Do you have any idea how many Chareidi Jews the Hadassah Hospital has helped over the years? Please, let's be rational.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 01:22 PM Torah Truth Says:
“ "extreme haredi sect"
Imagine if someone said this about a Mizrachi: so and so is an extreme zionist. The media would be up in arms.
If this report is true, I am glad the boy is recovering. Then again, who knows what is true? ”
If you don't think Eida HaChareidus and Reb Areleh are extrme in thir views, then I don't know what extreme means. BTW, the media always refer to the Stettlers and Kachniks as extreme. Stop trying to shift blame and understand that people who rioted and defended this mother (who needs help and our Tefilos) were and are wrong.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 11:56 AM Anonymous Says:
A Tale of Two Cities is the title of a book by Charles Dickens. It contains no inappropriate language or behavior for anyone with an 8th grade education. I am posting this here because of all the attention on one police report about a starving boy. We have no idea what private trouble was really going on with the little boy. We hope that his ima is innocent, but it does not sound like a secular plot to interfere in hareidi lifestyle. Some readers on this site have made wild claims about Hadassah Hospital, suggesting that doctors at that hospital would experiment on a patient. Have we sunk to the level of the ignorant goyishe peasants in A Tale of Two Cities? Two hundred years ago in France, poor men were too ignorant to learn to read French so they listened to irrational rumors.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 02:44 PM huvy Says:
merkin. did you do your homework? hadassa is in the research business BIG time with no regulations. There is no FDA yet, though a govt. study with the Millken Institute called for one recently. There is no truth there either. The doc in charge of the case, has on the site that he is licensed to practice in maryland, when in fact, his license in maryland is no longer valid. Trials of drugs not allowed here in the USA are allowed there, and the drug the kid was on, (again, do your research) is something being studied because it is suspected that long term use of it causes CANCER!
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Jul 31, 2009 at 02:43 PM formally Says:
“ Why do we have to be negative? Do you relize now that the hospital has to release the video they claim to have. It dosent say feedig tube only IV line in arm. That's a big differance. Some more info for who were always sure the mother is wrong ”
what will you say when the video comes out and shows what the mother did and removed the IV, will you it is fake docketed or will you finally admit she did it
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Jul 31, 2009 at 11:22 AM Anonymous Says:
if i recall correctly there was a previous article informing us that healt minister Litzman was ordering a full scale probe, am i correct about that? if yes then please let us continue to pray for the childs full and complete recovery.
and let us remain quiet till that investigation is complete, unless of course the probe is prohibited from investigating the parties they feel need to question.
further i recall reading in various publications that mother had a great relationship with staff till she seeked Rabbi Firer's opinion when he advised a change of venue things became "suspicious and the mother became a suspect.
cant someone draw a timeline with some basic facts on a graph and make it less confusing.
while i cant understand anyones sick agenda in creating a libel it seems to smell when a victim and family is turned into a perpetrator.
everyone is inclined to believe the good guy "hadassah" and not the
"evil" mother .
it reminds me how in the old days the abused victim was never believed, when a esteemed clergy was saying othewise.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 03:01 PM dovy Says:
“ what will you say when the video comes out and shows what the mother did and removed the IV, will you it is fake docketed or will you finally admit she did it ”
no one will have to say anything because no such video exists
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Jul 31, 2009 at 10:44 AM e. grossmann Says:
“ The doctor was asked one question: Why did he give the child Ankinra (which according to Professor Moshe Tishler of the Rheumatology Department in Ichilov Hospital causes severe side effects, including a significant drop in weight) and not allow him to be fed anything else otherwise? The doctor does not want to answer.
The prosecution does not allow the Health Dept. committee do any investigation on the doctor and hospital? ”
The child weighted no more than 8kg, BMI of 12,xx (where 20 is minimum), when they started giving anakinra. So obviously, the weight loss was not due to anakinra, especially when "feeding through mouth, gastrostomy, gastro-jejunostomy caused severe pain, although nothing could be seen on repeated imaging."
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Jul 31, 2009 at 10:41 AM Anonymous Says:
“ for anyone who defended this woman, look at that kids legs, clearly he was not given proper nutrients by his mother. ”
"by his mother"? are you aware that this kid was 6 months in the hopital under their care?
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Jul 31, 2009 at 04:30 PM Simple Jew Says:
I am astonished at two things:
1. The degree of hysteri and suspicion of some chareidim towards anything they view as secular, including a hospital that has treated thousands of chareidi patients over the years. This is caused by an "us verses them" mentality and lack of education.
2. The degree to which many chareidim will believe pure shtuss and bobbe maisos if it suits their prejudices.
I think it is time the Jewish world returned to the old ways of education and rational thought. Somewhere along the way, with all the persecution and ghetto life, we lost our way and forgot how to think and reason using facts and logic.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 04:12 PM Literature teacher Says:
“ A Tale of Two Cities is the title of a book by Charles Dickens. It contains no inappropriate language or behavior for anyone with an 8th grade education. I am posting this here because of all the attention on one police report about a starving boy. We have no idea what private trouble was really going on with the little boy. We hope that his ima is innocent, but it does not sound like a secular plot to interfere in hareidi lifestyle. Some readers on this site have made wild claims about Hadassah Hospital, suggesting that doctors at that hospital would experiment on a patient. Have we sunk to the level of the ignorant goyishe peasants in A Tale of Two Cities? Two hundred years ago in France, poor men were too ignorant to learn to read French so they listened to irrational rumors. ”
Wow, someone who reads REAL literature, not just blogs! You & I are a dying breed, my friend!
And I so agree. In fact, there are those who say the hospital is a combination of Brave New World (Aldous Huxley) & 1984 (George Orwell.) Personally, I think their tall stories fit better with Tales from the Brothers Grimm.
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Jul 31, 2009 at 06:00 PM Buncha Dumdums Says:
“ for anyone who defended this woman, look at that kids legs, clearly he was not given proper nutrients by his mother. ”
everyone knows he was malnourished but malnutrition can be caused by disease
as well as intentional deprivation
no proof either way
wait and see
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Jul 31, 2009 at 03:38 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I will never use hadassa hospital they don't have jewish racmuns ”
Go ahead and use Ramala Hospital and save Hadasa's resources and time. But I don't think anyone can guarantee that the doctors at Ramala hospital have enough brains and "Jewish racmuns."
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Jul 31, 2009 at 03:32 PM huvy Says:
e. grossman obviously saw the medical record. however, see photos of what the kid looked like going in to the hospital and coming out. don't give me those numbers. and if you do have the file, why don't you release it so everyone can see what parts you are NOT quoting. And, since you do have that file, explain to me why a child is put on Anakinra (also known as kineret) drug when it causes cancer possibly and is NOT approved for children.
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Aug 01, 2009 at 03:16 PM NormalPerson Says:
“ what will you say when the video comes out and shows what the mother did and removed the IV, will you it is fake docketed or will you finally admit she did it ”
Mothers have intuition, and she felt something wasn't right and that her boy was getting worse with this medicine they were administering (and by the way they admitted to her that his condition was misdiagnosed). And if most of the dear VIN readers don't know, medicine is usually put into the same IV tube as the nutrient bag! So she figured that this stuff is killing him so she pulled it out. Personally I would've transferred him sooner. But I understand she wanted to be in the hospital closest to home. It's not easy to get rides and taxi's are expensive to use daily roundtrip for 3 years. And no one just wants to leave their sick child alone in the hospital.
From experience I will tell you that I made aliyah 1.5 years ago and I have hated almost every medical related experience here, except when my daughter was born fortunately at tel hashomer (Sheba) after I was treated roughly at another hospital whose name I won't mention. Some doctors ask you what do you want them to do for you after you clearly explain what your problem is. In NewYork my experiences were a thousand times better. Sadly to say some doctors here dont have a clue and before all this starving mother business, I verbally expressed my belief that some doctors here bought their degrees over the internet. Unfortunately these days money can buy anything, anything can be forged and if you have a friend(s) in high places you are in.
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Aug 01, 2009 at 08:14 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Mothers have intuition, and she felt something wasn't right and that her boy was getting worse with this medicine they were administering (and by the way they admitted to her that his condition was misdiagnosed). And if most of the dear VIN readers don't know, medicine is usually put into the same IV tube as the nutrient bag! So she figured that this stuff is killing him so she pulled it out. Personally I would've transferred him sooner. But I understand she wanted to be in the hospital closest to home. It's not easy to get rides and taxi's are expensive to use daily roundtrip for 3 years. And no one just wants to leave their sick child alone in the hospital.
From experience I will tell you that I made aliyah 1.5 years ago and I have hated almost every medical related experience here, except when my daughter was born fortunately at tel hashomer (Sheba) after I was treated roughly at another hospital whose name I won't mention. Some doctors ask you what do you want them to do for you after you clearly explain what your problem is. In NewYork my experiences were a thousand times better. Sadly to say some doctors here dont have a clue and before all this starving mother business, I verbally expressed my belief that some doctors here bought their degrees over the internet. Unfortunately these days money can buy anything, anything can be forged and if you have a friend(s) in high places you are in. ”
Yes, like the case of the frum person in Monsey who set up an office and pretended to by a gynecologist. He probably printed up his medical license on his computer.
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Aug 02, 2009 at 04:19 AM malach Says:
“ I am astonished at two things:
1. The degree of hysteri and suspicion of some chareidim towards anything they view as secular, including a hospital that has treated thousands of chareidi patients over the years. This is caused by an "us verses them" mentality and lack of education.
2. The degree to which many chareidim will believe pure shtuss and bobbe maisos if it suits their prejudices.
I think it is time the Jewish world returned to the old ways of education and rational thought. Somewhere along the way, with all the persecution and ghetto life, we lost our way and forgot how to think and reason using facts and logic. ”
I don't know where some of you posters are posting your opinions from, but I am in Israel, have made aliyah recently, and have 15 years in the health field, some of it in oversight and monitoring of health facilities. So far, I am very unimpressed to put it mildly by most of the doctors I have met, really unhappy with the administrators and the Kupat Cholim (health plan), the clerks, the attitudes, the prevailing nastiness (not everyone but more than there should be), the presumption of patient ignorance, the refusal to provide information. I am not impressed with Hadassah either. If they had a leg to stand on there should have been a statement early on from top administration regarding this case. I have found overall a real inability to listen to patients which is characteristic of bad medicine.
The mother has said that this child was sick from birth and medical records should show what kind of treatment he has had and for what reasons.
Further, I am not haredi but I would really appreciate it if someone with some actual knowledge can tell me what "extreme haredi" means. Is Toldot Aharon actually more stringent in practice than Gur, Breslov, Satmar, or whatever?
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Aug 02, 2009 at 07:20 AM e. grossmann Says:
“ e. grossman obviously saw the medical record. however, see photos of what the kid looked like going in to the hospital and coming out. don't give me those numbers. and if you do have the file, why don't you release it so everyone can see what parts you are NOT quoting. And, since you do have that file, explain to me why a child is put on Anakinra (also known as kineret) drug when it causes cancer possibly and is NOT approved for children. ”
I just saw the record published in this brochure. It was published from the pro-mother-side, so I suppose it is authentic.
http://www.vosizneias.com/35859/2009/07/29/jerusalem-charedim-distribute-500000-blood-libel-booklets-over-child-starving-mom/
On the page, you find a link to download the brochure.
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Aug 02, 2009 at 10:33 PM huvy Says:
so, you saw that they put him on a drug that, if you do a bit more homework and go to the drug manufacturer's website you will verify, is NOT to be given to children.