“ I am aware of the longstanding bigotry against Sepharadim by Ashkenazim, but I am at a loss to understand it, much less to see why anyone would want to separate school students. Can anybody explain this, please? ”

“ Actually, the segregation is Ashkenazi / Sephardi only by coincidence. The Sehpardi girls are not from families with the same level of observance as the Ashkenazi girls, who are completely Haredi i.e. no television at home etc. This is not about black / white at all, but about trying to avoid exposing more religious girls to subjects that can be avoided by simply separating the girls. This way, they can receive equal education without any risk to the other girls. ”

“ Actually, the segregation is Ashkenazi / Sephardi only by coincidence. The Sehpardi girls are not from families with the same level of observance as the Ashkenazi girls, who are completely Haredi i.e. no television at home etc. This is not about black / white at all, but about trying to avoid exposing more religious girls to subjects that can be avoided by simply separating the girls. This way, they can receive equal education without any risk to the other girls. ”

“ Actually, the segregation is Ashkenazi / Sephardi only by coincidence. The Sehpardi girls are not from families with the same level of observance as the Ashkenazi girls, who are completely Haredi i.e. no television at home etc. This is not about black / white at all, but about trying to avoid exposing more religious girls to subjects that can be avoided by simply separating the girls. This way, they can receive equal education without any risk to the other girls. ”

“ Actually, the segregation is Ashkenazi / Sephardi only by coincidence. The Sehpardi girls are not from families with the same level of observance as the Ashkenazi girls, who are completely Haredi i.e. no television at home etc. This is not about black / white at all, but about trying to avoid exposing more religious girls to subjects that can be avoided by simply separating the girls. This way, they can receive equal education without any risk to the other girls. ”

“ Actually, the segregation is Ashkenazi / Sephardi only by coincidence. The Sehpardi girls are not from families with the same level of observance as the Ashkenazi girls, who are completely Haredi i.e. no television at home etc. This is not about black / white at all, but about trying to avoid exposing more religious girls to subjects that can be avoided by simply separating the girls. This way, they can receive equal education without any risk to the other girls. ”

“ Actually, the segregation is Ashkenazi / Sephardi only by coincidence. The Sehpardi girls are not from families with the same level of observance as the Ashkenazi girls, who are completely Haredi i.e. no television at home etc. This is not about black / white at all, but about trying to avoid exposing more religious girls to subjects that can be avoided by simply separating the girls. This way, they can receive equal education without any risk to the other girls. ”

“ hey in america there is no discrimination from the ashkenazim even after the whole scandal we just had
and we the syrians don't discriminate even the other way even before our scandal ”

“ Actually, the segregation is Ashkenazi / Sephardi only by coincidence. The Sehpardi girls are not from families with the same level of observance as the Ashkenazi girls, who are completely Haredi i.e. no television at home etc. This is not about black / white at all, but about trying to avoid exposing more religious girls to subjects that can be avoided by simply separating the girls. This way, they can receive equal education without any risk to the other girls. ”

“ i cant beleave its still going on.and why would they send their kids to that school and put them though that. ”

“ Oh please! So the implication and the message they're sending the Ashk. girls is the Sephardi girls are "less" Jewish, less moral (always the accusation against us dark types) less intelligent cause they watch tv an don't study? NIce. No wonder the Askenazi girls give me surly looks rather than their seats on a crowded bus. I guess when we Sephardi girls get old, (I'm 63) we don't deserve respect because of the above even if we have our heads covered along with everything else.
But boy, when they want a maid they know whom to call! ”

“ Oh please! So the implication and the message they're sending the Ashk. girls is the Sephardi girls are "less" Jewish, less moral (always the accusation against us dark types) less intelligent cause they watch tv an don't study? NIce. No wonder the Askenazi girls give me surly looks rather than their seats on a crowded bus. I guess when we Sephardi girls get old, (I'm 63) we don't deserve respect because of the above even if we have our heads covered along with everything else.
But boy, when they want a maid they know whom to call! ”

“ it had to be done becuase the sfardishe mydlech dont speak yidsh. ”

“ it had to be done becuase the sfardishe mydlech dont speak yidsh. ”

“ Yes, they call the mexicans and the brazilians of course! ”

“ it had to be done becuase the sfardishe mydlech dont speak yidsh. ”

“ and since when was the Torah written in yiddish? ”

“ yes #1 I have the same questions - I am Ashkanaz but have no clue why some Ashkanazim think that they are in any way "better" than sefardim - it makes no logical sense at all!! We are all yidden and part of the same Klal yisroel. ”

“ Everyone is complaining and condemning without ever hearing any statement from an official of the school.

On the surface segregation without any good reason is wrong. However, any sane administrator would never enact such a policy since it would create an outrage and they would have the funding problems that have arisen.

I think the jury is out until we hear the school's side of the story. ”

“ "The rabbonim and government administrators who allowed this disgusting practice should be publicly reprimanded and never again be allowed to have any role in schools or education."

Great idea. Let us teach the children to be malbin pnei chavero brabim so you can feel better. ”

“ it had to be done becuase the sfardishe mydlech dont speak yidsh. ”

“ Don't freak out!
Think before you shoot back at me stupidly.
Orthodox Jews have sgregated schools.
Is that discrimination?
Absolutely not.
We simply don't want our children mingling and....
So we keep them apart. We don't love or hate either sex but it is healthier for them to grow up seperately.
Right?
Now,
Sephardic Jews have very different beliefs and opinions then Ashkenazic Jews. Those beliefs and opinions are not wrong or more lenient. They are simply "different".
To most Ashkenazic orthodox women uncovered hair and pants are inacceptable while to most Sephardic women it is very acceptable.
Therefore, it is a very wise idea to keep them seperated. ”

“ And I know many sephardim who a prejudiced against ashkenazim, thinking that THEY are somehow better (comments like "ashkenazim lost their tradition while sephardim have the true tradition"). Hatred between Jews is WRONG regardless of the reason and regardless of whom it is directed against.

My understanding of segregation in haredi schools is for the benefit of the sephardim. This has been going on for a long time, since before there were any sephardi schools and sephardi families had no choice but to send their kids to ashkenazi schools. The segregation was made to help ensure that the sephardi kids would be better able to preserve THEIR traditions, rather than be subsumed in to the overhelming majority ashkenazi culture, not, as asserted above, to protect the ashkenazi girls from their allegedly less religious sisters.

One may disagree with this policy and one may argue that today it is outdated and no longer necessary. That is fine. But to have a knee-jerk "it's hatred for sephardim!!!" reaction without knowing the FACTS is nothing less than loshon hora.

Has anyone bothered to look into No'ar Kehalacha or it's director Aviad Hacohen to see if maybe they have an agenda (like maybe eradicating the different traditions between the sephardi and ashkenazi communites, melding them into one mass national-religious culture)? You may think that's a good idea (or, like me, not) but to use the GOVERMENT to impose your agenda on people that want to maintain their genuine historic traditions smells a lot like fascism to me.

”

“ If that was the true reason they might need separate classes, but not separate uniforms and a fence. ”

“ I am aware of the longstanding bigotry against Sepharadim by Ashkenazim, but I am at a loss to understand it, much less to see why anyone would want to separate school students. Can anybody explain this, please? ”

“ so why the fence and different uniforms? try to explain that ”

“ Agreed with Barry, the hilchot Ben Ish Hai are far different from those of Rav Moishe Feinstein ZTK"L, and how to teach fully to both traditions is not fully available. Sephardic girls can't eat the same food as Ashkenazi girls for example, Beit Yosef meat versus Glatt. Sephardi girls can't wear sheitels when they get married, and Lubavich girls can't wear snoods. We want to teach our children our traditions, not dilute them or mix them with other ones, they are what makes us unique and strong. We are forbidden to ask others to take on our customs, and to take on those of others, shame on the government for trying to be the Rabbis and shame on the posters for starting a race riot when nothing is happening! ”

“ it had to be done becuase the sfardishe mydlech dont speak yidsh.”

Why does yiddish matter...this is EY, Hebrew is lashon hakodesh... ”

“ Like I always say, authentic Judaism (the religion aspect) has disappeared from the face of the earth at around time of the RAMBAM. Today we just have different sects who repeat same rituals year to year like parrots but there is no humanity behind the game. Hate, racism, class-ism, segregation, and disrespect of different Jewish groups exists and will continue to exist because no one learns anything from practicing in organized religious communities because there is no thought behind all these rituals. If Tishabav and Yom Kippur had a real meaning, the superiority complex between Hassidim and non Hassidim, Ashkenazi and Sefardi, Orthodox and Modern Orthodox and so on would stop thousand years ago. Today, religious rituals and halahik practices are all just an external facade. ”

“ Sorry, but HEBREW IS NOT LOSHON HAKODESH. There are many things that you can say in Hebrew that you can't say in Loshon hakodesh, and that's why it's called loshon hakodesh. The Chareidim that daven "Bureech Atu etc. daven in Loshon Hakodesh. Not Ivrit. ”

“ Actually, the segregation is Ashkenazi / Sephardi only by coincidence. The Sehpardi girls are not from families with the same level of observance as the Ashkenazi girls, who are completely Haredi i.e. no television at home etc. This is not about black / white at all, but about trying to avoid exposing more religious girls to subjects that can be avoided by simply separating the girls. This way, they can receive equal education without any risk to the other girls. ”