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Sao Paulo Guarulhos International Airport
Now he claims to be traumatized.
"I was very ill, wondering what the Germans did to the Jews 60 years ago. And that is what they did to me now in Brazil" he said.
The engineer spent three days detained at the Federal Police, in Guarulhos Airport and then was transferred to a Provisional Detention Center (PDC) .. He says that in the town, after passing a screening, he was the victim of religious intolerance.
He says that a jailer threw on the floor his yarmulke a small hat mandatory for all Orthodox Jew.
He then began talking with a colleague who was on the side, laughing at me. Then they said 'Heil Hitler'
The engineer says that, after insulting him, the guards found in his luggage two religious objects, the tallit and tefillin, and threw on the floor of the accessories that are considered sacred.
When a person engages with the tallit, this time, he is reminding you that has to fulfill the 613 commandments of God. When a Jew puts on tefillin in the morning, is his connection with God - explains Rabbi Richard Tamezgui.
But the worst was yet to come.
The jailer asked me how long I had a beard. I said that since it had started to grow. He replied, then, that from that day, I will not have no beard.
The engineer says they put him in a chair, handcuffed hands and feet. Then, his beard was shaved completely.
- It is on our Torah, which is our bible, which is banned you destroy part of his beard. According to Kabbalah, the mystical part of Judaism through the beard, we receive divine blessings explains the rabbi.
They also cut off the curls [Pies] he kept since birth, and symbolizing devotion to God.
In some camps, the humiliation they did with the Orthodox Jews was to cut his beard and mock them. I see this as an anti-Semitic act, an isolated act but an act of disrespect and humiliation to him says the rabbi.
I feel a great shame. I sit in my house without leaving for a year until my beard grow says the engineer.
According to the Secretariat of Penitentiary Administration, the prisoners are treated in a standardized manner and have the beard and hair cut. With respect to American, the Secretariat also explained that his beard was very long, at the navel.
In a statement, the Secretariat reported that there was no physical aggression, moral or psychological, but that will investigate the case properly.
It is a standard procedure, but that it contains exceptions. These agents have practiced some crimes, such as abuse of authority and certainly the crime of racism, and practice to encourage prejudice against religion, belief and ethnicity said the lawyer representing the engineer, Augusto de Arruda Botelho.
This is the same opinion of Judge Sergio Mazina Martins, human rights expert and president of the Brazilian Institute of Criminal Sciences (IBCCrim).
You want to prevent the individual to have a certain beard, a certain hair, when in fact it makes him part of their culture and their own religious beliefs points.
Now released, the engineer uses fake beard. He hopes the court will decide whether to wait for the progress of the process in Germany, where he says live.
I want to go home. I hope they do not do this anymore to Jews who want to keep his beard - he says.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 03:45 PM Obamanation Says:
yes he might of done a crime, but they did evil and shame on them. NATZI, shaim rishu'im yirkuv. nebach. from all the news i read here is that we are hedding alittle backwards in the world as a hole, we are hedding back to being the dogs of the world. nebach
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Aug 24, 2009 at 03:51 PM Anonymous Says:
They should never treat an orthodox jew or anyone from any religion with such intolerance. I'll reserve judgement as to whether this was stupidity or blatant anti-semitisim. At the same time, for this frum yid to stay home from his job as an engineer"for a year" to grow back his beard (or walk around with a fake beard, the article is a bit unclear) and then also claim he was traumatized by having his beard shaved is also a bit extreme. It sounds like this person needs some counseling by his rebbe or a a professional.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 03:48 PM Raphael Kaufman Says:
How about the humiliation of being caught with contraband? A sure way to get into trouble in foreign countries is to try to beat their customs. Don't smuggle.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 03:48 PM formally Says:
If true, (he was arrested for having jewels, diamonds and watches undeclared ) this is disgusting and hopefully Brazil will get to the bottom of this.
However, I am a little suspicious or unconformable that he is saying this is like Germany during the holocaust, Maybe is is making more than it is to get off. I do not know the law in Brazil to say if that is standard to cut off a beard.
He is ashamed of the beard being cut off, but not that he was caught trying to bring in (smuggle) undisclosed jewelery, Interesting
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Aug 24, 2009 at 03:46 PM Nuts Says:
This story is nuts. The guy decides to smuggle across an international border. He is caught smuggling. Surprise, surprise, he is put in jail for smuggling. In jail, surprise, surprise, there are guards who are not well versed in orthodox Jewish practice (maybe this is the 1st frum goniff they have caught) and they apparently forcibly shave his beard, and perhaps his peyos. Guess what? This is what happens to criminals when they are in jail.
The chutzpah of this thief comparing himself to truly frum Yidden who were tortured and died al kiddush Hashem at the hands of the Germans, yimach shemam, is unbelievable.
One way to lower one's chances of being imprisoned and humiliated is to obey the law and not smuggle.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:08 PM Askupeh Says:
“ They should never treat an orthodox jew or anyone from any religion with such intolerance. I'll reserve judgement as to whether this was stupidity or blatant anti-semitisim. At the same time, for this frum yid to stay home from his job as an engineer"for a year" to grow back his beard (or walk around with a fake beard, the article is a bit unclear) and then also claim he was traumatized by having his beard shaved is also a bit extreme. It sounds like this person needs some counseling by his rebbe or a a professional. ”
Don’t you think it is a bit extreme to “reserve judgment” on such a blatant expression of anti-Semitism?
Will you reserve judgment of him too?
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:02 PM Lebediger Says:
I was in Brazil a couple of times and didn't go to jail
why did he get to jail
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:13 PM Askupeh Says:
“ How about the humiliation of being caught with contraband? A sure way to get into trouble in foreign countries is to try to beat their customs. Don't smuggle. ”
We all agree, but that is not the issue. The issue is the anti-Semitism which is the norm in this world, and goes virtually unchecked.
There are two issues; one is smuggling (which is NOT the issue here) and the other is the treatment of a Jew in a foreign prison.
If we let this pass (because who told him to smuggle) then tomorrow this prison attendant will attack a Jew on the Street, and it might be YOU.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:13 PM Anonymous Says:
“ yes he might of done a crime, but they did evil and shame on them. NATZI, shaim rishu'im yirkuv. nebach. from all the news i read here is that we are hedding alittle backwards in the world as a hole, we are hedding back to being the dogs of the world. nebach ”
It sounds like this guy may have faked the whole episode to cover his possible smuggeling or other criminial activity. His claim to being traumatized and the whole story about spending a year growning his beard back is beyond belief.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:11 PM Anonymous Says:
I agree with 5 I love most how all of a sudden this guy needs his talis to remind him of all 613 mitzvos I guess he has a different version than I couse in mine it's says somthing about not stealing ok I admit I'm a big talker I also don't always say the gantseh emes at the borderf but to smugle jewls dimonds that's a different story but anyway I still agree that this guy shouldent whine he took the chance pay the price but that still dose not excuse this antisemates if the story and facts are true than they are exactly like the natziz
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:22 PM Askupeh Says:
“ This story is nuts. The guy decides to smuggle across an international border. He is caught smuggling. Surprise, surprise, he is put in jail for smuggling. In jail, surprise, surprise, there are guards who are not well versed in orthodox Jewish practice (maybe this is the 1st frum goniff they have caught) and they apparently forcibly shave his beard, and perhaps his peyos. Guess what? This is what happens to criminals when they are in jail.
The chutzpah of this thief comparing himself to truly frum Yidden who were tortured and died al kiddush Hashem at the hands of the Germans, yimach shemam, is unbelievable.
One way to lower one's chances of being imprisoned and humiliated is to obey the law and not smuggle.
”
Throwing your Yarmulke on the floor is normal practice? Laughing at a prisoner and saying “Heil Hitler” is normal practice. It does remind us of Nazi Germany where they cut the Peyos and beards with glee. There are many pictures extant today; which does remind us of Nazi Germany. He is RIGHT with comparing them to Nazi Germany.
It’s very interesting that because he is an Orthodox Jew who is charged with a crime, automatically what his inquisitors do becomes justified. Can anyone please explain.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:21 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Don’t you think it is a bit extreme to “reserve judgment” on such a blatant expression of anti-Semitism?
Will you reserve judgment of him too? ”
The story does not make any sense and does not reflect my experiences in Brazail...there apparently is also some evidence this guy was engaged in some illegal activity in that landed him in jail and this whole bubba meisa was concocted to cover his shame at being arrested.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:18 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I was in Brazil a couple of times and didn't go to jail
why did he get to jail ”
because either you didn't smuggle, or you didn't get caught. oiberchuchem.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:16 PM Anonymous Says:
I find it amazing how so many are looking for ways to justify how this Yid was treated. Maybe he smuggled, maybe he did not, you cannot tell from this article, yet there are those who want to justify the treatment of this person.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:47 PM medina shel chesed Says:
People don't fully appreciate the rights and freedoms that we enjoy in this malchus she'll chesed we call home. Althogh some other countries may be democracies with so called rights, that doesn't mean that people are actually treated that way, especially criminals in Jail. You can begin to imagine the mindset of an american corrections officer, but think of a Mexican one for example. Less Din veloy Dayan... Sure there are antisemites out there but as far as this story goes, DON'T DO THE CRIME you won't end up in jail, there is abetter chance the staff in the hilton will treat you a bit nicer than the staff at the PDC
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:43 PM Nuts Says:
No one wishes to justify the actions of anti-semites, but the mussar haskel here is to refrain from committing crimes which result in one being imprisoned. We simply have had too many cases wherein people who dress as orthodox Jews commit crimes, and then complain when they have to deal with the low lifes who run prisons and inhabit them.
Any tape or sefer from Rav Avigdor Miller ztl would doubtless contain advice not to be stupid. Read for example the sefer, Rabbi Avigdor Miller Speaks, by Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, Vol 2, the last chapter--on common sense.
I maintain that to compare these low life prison guards to Nazis is problematic, and for this person to somehow compare himself to the millions of innocent Yidden, including many frum Yidden, humiliated and tortured and killed by the German barbarians simply for being Jewish (not for committing any crime) is a bit much.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:38 PM PMO Says:
This guy disrespects the laws of Brazil by smuggling diamonds, and then wonders why they disrespected him?
I agree that what they did was wrong. However, he asked for it when he decided to be a smuggler. When are we all going to learn that we cannot spit in the face of everyone else on the planet and still expect to be treated respectfully?
The guards who did this were 100% wrong and should be punished. What they did was an insult to every yid. However, I have no sympathy for a criminal like this. He asked for it by trying to smuggle in diamonds.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:37 PM moish Says:
“ I agree with 5 I love most how all of a sudden this guy needs his talis to remind him of all 613 mitzvos I guess he has a different version than I couse in mine it's says somthing about not stealing ok I admit I'm a big talker I also don't always say the gantseh emes at the borderf but to smugle jewls dimonds that's a different story but anyway I still agree that this guy shouldent whine he took the chance pay the price but that still dose not excuse this antisemates if the story and facts are true than they are exactly like the natziz ”
what did he steal?
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Aug 24, 2009 at 05:03 PM formally Says:
“ Throwing your Yarmulke on the floor is normal practice? Laughing at a prisoner and saying “Heil Hitler” is normal practice. It does remind us of Nazi Germany where they cut the Peyos and beards with glee. There are many pictures extant today; which does remind us of Nazi Germany. He is RIGHT with comparing them to Nazi Germany.
It’s very interesting that because he is an Orthodox Jew who is charged with a crime, automatically what his inquisitors do becomes justified. Can anyone please explain. ”
There is a TV show called "locked up abroad", prisons in some countries are notaries I can not imagine Brazil should be a prison like the USA.
The question is, is the story true or is he trying to get out of a sentence.
An independent agency should be done, if he is right the guards should be fired and punished. However, if he made this up he should be charged with something or time added to his sentence if he is found guilty
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:29 PM Anonymous Says:
we are all jews commenting on this website, why do we only have to talk about the negative side?this person was a victim of anti semitism
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:28 PM OMG Says:
It is self-evident that this guy was caught with his hand in the cookie jar and he will be tried and if found guilty he will and should pay the price according the law of the State, and under no circumstances should we whitewash this sorry episode, however that doesn’t minimize the blatant anti-Semitism displayed by this the police and it that is true every Jew, regardless if you’re religious or not, should speak up
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Aug 24, 2009 at 04:27 PM Askupeh Says:
“ I agree with 5 I love most how all of a sudden this guy needs his talis to remind him of all 613 mitzvos I guess he has a different version than I couse in mine it's says somthing about not stealing ok I admit I'm a big talker I also don't always say the gantseh emes at the borderf but to smugle jewls dimonds that's a different story but anyway I still agree that this guy shouldent whine he took the chance pay the price but that still dose not excuse this antisemates if the story and facts are true than they are exactly like the natziz ”
In the last paragraph you finally got it right that “if the story and facts are true than they are exactly like the Nazis”. That’s the story, and not of a Jew smuggling.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 05:10 PM Anonymous Says:
“ There is a TV show called "locked up abroad", prisons in some countries are notaries I can not imagine Brazil should be a prison like the USA.
The question is, is the story true or is he trying to get out of a sentence.
An independent agency should be done, if he is right the guards should be fired and punished. However, if he made this up he should be charged with something or time added to his sentence if he is found guilty
”
acc. to the gemoro 3 simanim etc. you are not mizera yisroel; you WANT a fellow jew to serve time in prison.. such ahavas yisroel..
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Aug 24, 2009 at 05:38 PM formally Says:
“ acc. to the gemoro 3 simanim etc. you are not mizera yisroel; you WANT a fellow jew to serve time in prison.. such ahavas yisroel.. ”
yes
should Jews be exempt from societies rules and laws. maybe you can petition the USA and other countries that Jews should not be to be jailed but everybody else of course should be.
If you want to stop antisemitism, and have people treat you with respect and treated the same as everybody then you must accept the consequences, when treating you the same turns against you. You want to be treated .the same only when it is to you benefit
How can you expect people to treat you as equals when you say I am not equal am better and cannot be imprisoned.
Your attitude creates antisemitism..
You can't complain when people treat you differently when you want to be treated differently
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Aug 24, 2009 at 05:13 PM Nuts Says:
While I personally tend to believe much or all of this happened to this alleged thief, I should mention that all too often we frum Jews are too gullible and too willing to accept whatever someone who is dressed like a frum Yid says. There are thieves and liars among us. Someone who is smuggling across an international border may not be the paragon of moral virtue.
We simply have to stop bifurcating our approach to morality. We should begin to expect that someone who wishes to be considered a frum Yid has to act that way bein adam lchavero (interactions between people) as well as bein adam lmakom (ritual laws). We should not call someone who is a thief 'frum', especially someone who has created a chillul Hashem.
Indeed, these goons may have removed his Yiddish appearance, but by his public complaints in the media, this fellow may have compounded the chillul Hashem he created by international smuggling! Now, thousands will read about the 'Jewish rabbi smuggler'v and think that we frum Jews think it is acceptable to smuggle across international borders!
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Aug 24, 2009 at 06:10 PM Babishka Says:
“ what did he steal? ”
He stole government revenues that were due on the products he was smuggling.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 06:33 PM enough of this phoniness Says:
Someone who dresses like they are very pious, like this guy, has to behave very pious. If this fellow did what he did, he has caused all of us harm, causing us to be viewed with suspicion.
I would like to know what this allegedly pious individual is doing to repent for all the harm he has caused to the image of Jews.
I have had enough of this phony piety, if he dresses like a pious man, he better act that way. It is more important to act properly than to have a beard, hey, even goats have beards. Let him start acting properly, instead of making a big ruckus trying to cover up his misdeeds.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 07:04 PM B.P Says:
I have been in Brazil allot of times and never came threw with problems in the Air Port accutally very polite staff,and always trying to help.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 06:45 PM formally Says:
why all the attack on this guy
but most defend the action of the New Jersey frum people
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Aug 24, 2009 at 08:26 PM Anonymous Says:
“ yes he might of done a crime, but they did evil and shame on them. NATZI, shaim rishu'im yirkuv. nebach. from all the news i read here is that we are hedding alittle backwards in the world as a hole, we are hedding back to being the dogs of the world. nebach ”
"might have" chuchum!
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Aug 24, 2009 at 07:56 PM Anonymous Says:
dont steal. when you do. PLEASE, take off you kippa!!
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Aug 24, 2009 at 07:55 PM Gefilte Fish Says:
I guess he got a brazilian on his beard... Jokes aside, this story is scary.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 09:16 PM Raphael Kaufman Says:
“ We all agree, but that is not the issue. The issue is the anti-Semitism which is the norm in this world, and goes virtually unchecked.
There are two issues; one is smuggling (which is NOT the issue here) and the other is the treatment of a Jew in a foreign prison.
If we let this pass (because who told him to smuggle) then tomorrow this prison attendant will attack a Jew on the Street, and it might be YOU. ”
Anti-semitism is NOT the "norm of the world" and certainly not in Brazil. That is not to say that it doesn't exist, but it is nowhere near as pervasive as you and many others on this blog assume. I have traveled extensivly in the U.S. and around the world. I am obviously and publicly Jewish. In my experience, the vast majority of people don't really care one way or the other about Jews. Those that notice are, at most, mildly curious. As far as this particular case goes, my guess is that #5 is correct in his assumption that the guards were just giving him a prison hair cut and being generally abusive as guards often are with prisoners. I doubt that they even understood what anti-semitism is. one should never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple stupidity.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 09:21 PM Eme Says:
“ yes
should Jews be exempt from societies rules and laws. maybe you can petition the USA and other countries that Jews should not be to be jailed but everybody else of course should be.
If you want to stop antisemitism, and have people treat you with respect and treated the same as everybody then you must accept the consequences, when treating you the same turns against you. You want to be treated .the same only when it is to you benefit
How can you expect people to treat you as equals when you say I am not equal am better and cannot be imprisoned.
Your attitude creates antisemitism..
You can't complain when people treat you differently when you want to be treated differently ”
formally:
You are absolutely correct. No one gets special treatment in the eyes of the law. Standard procedure is standard procedure in all countries. The treatment he received was nothing like what the Nazi's did. Anyone who says that is terribly misinformed. The treatment of prisoners in the US is much harsher.
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Aug 24, 2009 at 09:40 PM Lemming Says:
My Rebbeh always said that the greatest segulah for not going to jail is: DON'T DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL! This guy probably thinks he's like the rebbeh R Zishe and R Elimeilech. Zechusam yugain olaini
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Aug 24, 2009 at 10:09 PM WB Says:
“ This guy disrespects the laws of Brazil by smuggling diamonds, and then wonders why they disrespected him?
I agree that what they did was wrong. However, he asked for it when he decided to be a smuggler. When are we all going to learn that we cannot spit in the face of everyone else on the planet and still expect to be treated respectfully?
The guards who did this were 100% wrong and should be punished. What they did was an insult to every yid. However, I have no sympathy for a criminal like this. He asked for it by trying to smuggle in diamonds. ”
U r cold bloded!
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Aug 24, 2009 at 10:07 PM Anonymous Says:
OMG, we are living in scary times. WAKE UP YIDDIN
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Aug 24, 2009 at 10:25 PM Anonymous Says:
Horrible... Horrible... Horrible a person should never be treated that way!!!!!
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Aug 24, 2009 at 10:20 PM Anonymous Says:
I guess you've forgotten the story of years ago when a yid was kidnapped by the police in Brazli and murdered, leaving behind a wife and small children....
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Aug 25, 2009 at 06:32 AM Rabbi Says:
“ I find it amazing how so many are looking for ways to justify how this Yid was treated. Maybe he smuggled, maybe he did not, you cannot tell from this article, yet there are those who want to justify the treatment of this person.
”
My thoughts exactly. This article was apparently translated from Spanish, and it is not clear that he was smuggling anything at all. Maybe this stuff was for personal use and the issue here is taxes. Still not good but nothing like smuggling.
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Aug 25, 2009 at 02:20 AM YitzchokAizik Says:
fake beard? Is this guy serious?
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Aug 25, 2009 at 12:57 AM Anonymous Says:
“ yes
should Jews be exempt from societies rules and laws. maybe you can petition the USA and other countries that Jews should not be to be jailed but everybody else of course should be.
If you want to stop antisemitism, and have people treat you with respect and treated the same as everybody then you must accept the consequences, when treating you the same turns against you. You want to be treated .the same only when it is to you benefit
How can you expect people to treat you as equals when you say I am not equal am better and cannot be imprisoned.
Your attitude creates antisemitism..
You can't complain when people treat you differently when you want to be treated differently ”
that's all very nice, but personally you should be happy if he is let out, us yidden hold pidyon shvuyim the highest form of tzdoko yet you actually WANT him to be in prison, just proves my assessment about you was correct. if your brother was in prison would you want him to stay? but then again i wouldn't be surprised if you would!
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Aug 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM PMO Says:
“ U r cold bloded! ”
What is cold blooded? This man spit in the face of the Brazilian people and their government when he tried to smuggle illegal gems into the country. Why should we expect them to treat him with even one ounce of respect in return? He was treated like any other prisoner there. He was not singled out. All prisoners have their beards shaved off and their hair cut short.
This man knew he was a smuggler and he assumed 100% of the risk of being caught as a criminal. That is the risk of his business. Why does he deserve my sympathy? There are plenty of people suffering in this world through no fault of their own who need us far more than these criminals that everyone seems to be so concerned with. Give your tefilos and your money to YACHAD or HASC.... both are better spent there.
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Aug 25, 2009 at 07:53 AM moish Says:
“ He stole government revenues that were due on the products he was smuggling. ”
Those revenues do not belong to the government so not giving it is not theft, it maybe tax evasion, but this is not necessarily an issur torah, it may fall under dina dmalchusa under certain circumstances, although this is only if he lives in that country. There are other reasons why one should not break the law but this is not theft.
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Aug 25, 2009 at 10:49 AM Askupeh Says:
“ Anti-semitism is NOT the "norm of the world" and certainly not in Brazil. That is not to say that it doesn't exist, but it is nowhere near as pervasive as you and many others on this blog assume. I have traveled extensivly in the U.S. and around the world. I am obviously and publicly Jewish. In my experience, the vast majority of people don't really care one way or the other about Jews. Those that notice are, at most, mildly curious. As far as this particular case goes, my guess is that #5 is correct in his assumption that the guards were just giving him a prison hair cut and being generally abusive as guards often are with prisoners. I doubt that they even understood what anti-semitism is. one should never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple stupidity. ”
I guess you don't live in the same world I live in. In my world anti-Semitism IS the norm. Only the tip of the iceberg is displayed publicly, and if you work with professionals they professionally hide their anti-Semitism, but when push comes to shove there is so much hatred out there that it’s really scary.
Look, I’ve been around and seen much of the world, outwardly AND inwardly and this is my experience.
Not withstanding what I wrote, there are many genuine good people out there who don’t hate us, and equally there are many people who don’t care one way or another about Jews and find us as a curiosity. But that shouldn’t fool anyone into a false sense of security. History, both ancient and contemporary has taught us to be on guard at all times. I know people who carry their passport on them. That might be a bit extreme, but on second thought, maybe not.
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Aug 25, 2009 at 11:18 AM Anonymous Says:
cutting off one beared, specially if its there for religios purposess, is a shamefull act..
specially if its not the standerd way of dealing with criminals.
those who say otherwise, know that they are wrong, they only do it to draw attention, (as seen in other posts..)
reffering to the Natzis, is wrong and right..
wrong, since they dont humiliate as the Natzis did..
right, cuz they are doing a act that the Natzis practiced..
Brazil has the right to Jail him, prosecute him.. but not do as was reported here..
if it would be the normal thing to do in Brazil, the whole world would condem it, since its self understood, that its a shamefull act..
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Aug 25, 2009 at 11:17 AM Askupeh Says:
“ What is cold blooded? This man spit in the face of the Brazilian people and their government when he tried to smuggle illegal gems into the country. Why should we expect them to treat him with even one ounce of respect in return? He was treated like any other prisoner there. He was not singled out. All prisoners have their beards shaved off and their hair cut short.
This man knew he was a smuggler and he assumed 100% of the risk of being caught as a criminal. That is the risk of his business. Why does he deserve my sympathy? There are plenty of people suffering in this world through no fault of their own who need us far more than these criminals that everyone seems to be so concerned with. Give your tefilos and your money to YACHAD or HASC.... both are better spent there.
”
I'll tell you what he/she meant by "cold-blooded".
Your usual comments on stories like these display a lack of any feelings for your fellow Jews. If you would only display “no sympathy” it would be bad enough, but it is “antipathy” which is felt in your comments; that’s cold-bloodedness. Why would you want another Jew who you do not know, nor do you really know his crime, nor do you know anything about him, yet you get pleasure seeing him sit in jail?
In all likelihood you are not cold blooded at all but are trying to prove something to yourself. Maybe we can Teitch; Hoicheiach Tochiach, prove you shall prove yourself, Ess Amisecho, to your brother (instead of to yourself).
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Aug 25, 2009 at 06:06 PM PMO Says:
“ I'll tell you what he/she meant by "cold-blooded".
Your usual comments on stories like these display a lack of any feelings for your fellow Jews. If you would only display “no sympathy” it would be bad enough, but it is “antipathy” which is felt in your comments; that’s cold-bloodedness. Why would you want another Jew who you do not know, nor do you really know his crime, nor do you know anything about him, yet you get pleasure seeing him sit in jail?
In all likelihood you are not cold blooded at all but are trying to prove something to yourself. Maybe we can Teitch; Hoicheiach Tochiach, prove you shall prove yourself, Ess Amisecho, to your brother (instead of to yourself). ”
I take no pleasure in seeing anyone in prison. However, that does not mean that I have to feel sympathy for him. I feel sympathy for Shalit. I believe that those who choose a life of crime, also choose to accept the consequences of that life of crime. I have only so much money, tefilos, and sympathy to go around in a meaningful way. I would rather put it into those who are in pain through no fault of their own (like this criminal's family who he abandoned to commit crimes) and deserving of those things from me.
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Aug 27, 2009 at 02:31 PM Anonymous Says:
look as a brasilian he probably got in contraband but still in the jail they made fun of him with antisemitism, someting we have to take care to dont happen again, still he should be happy they didnt .... him