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Published on: September 1, 2009 01:18 PM
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Cedar Rapids, IA - A U.S. District Court judge has moved the trial of four former managers of a kosher slaughterhouse from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, to Sioux Falls, S.D.

Judge Linda Reade ruled today that the “prodigious” amount of negative pretrial publicity about Agriprocessors, Inc., and former top manager Sholom Rubashkin caused potential jurors to develop a bias against them.

The trial has been set for Oct. 13.
The order filed Tuesday was the second victory for Rubashkin’s defense team , who earlier asked for and received a month’s delay in the trial.

Rubashkin and three co-defendants have pleaded not guilty to immigration, bank fraud, wire fraud and mail fraud charges.
Agriprocessors was the subject of a massive immigration raid in 2008.


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 Sep 01, 2009 at 12:34 PM Bill Says:

B"H!!! Kivun Shenidche, yidche legamri

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 01:05 PM MosheG Says:

Mishan'e Makom Mishan'e Mazal!!

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 12:47 PM Anonymous Says:

I'm not sure it will make any difference....everyone in the region has heard about the the "Rubashkin Affair" and the Agriproccesors' case. There are very few Jews in South Dakota so maybe they haven't focused on the details but the local media will quickly pick up the story.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 12:43 PM Anonymous Says:

may hashem help them get out of this mess free and clear!

All of us should be misspalel for them

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 01:40 PM Anonymous Says:

We will win this one. This is a milchama between Orthodox and reform and we need and Im"h will win. The facts of how it payed out are not relevant.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 01:39 PM Anonymous Says:

A jury pool readily is available for the Oct. 13 trial date.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 01:36 PM Anonymous Says:

on Oct 13 (25th of Tishri) is the yurtzeit of the bardishiver ruv my they be helped in his zechus

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 01:28 PM michali Says:

Thank you Hashem!

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 01:27 PM joe Says:

this should help S.D is a very republican and religious state who probably mistrust the Federal Government so hopefully things will work out for the good

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 02:03 PM Hatzlacha Says:

Since Obama publicly opined as to their guilt (in his view), it is hard to see how they could get a fair trial, but their chances seem better out of state.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 02:09 PM MosheR Says:

B"H, may they be victorious over all their enemies!!

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 02:39 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
joe Says:

this should help S.D is a very republican and religious state who probably mistrust the Federal Government so hopefully things will work out for the good

Wasn't he arrested during the reign of our 'friend' George Bush?

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 03:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
Anonymous Says:

on Oct 13 (25th of Tishri) is the yurtzeit of the bardishiver ruv my they be helped in his zechus

“on Oct 13 (25th of Tishri) is the yurtzeit of the bardrisher ruv my they be helped in his zechus

No disrespect, but who is the Bardrisher rabbi and what is his linkage to the Rubashkin matter.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 02:49 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
Anonymous Says:

Wasn't he arrested during the reign of our 'friend' George Bush?

yes and do you remember what Obama said when he was campaining and someone asked a question about it?????

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 02:18 PM Josh Says:

May God help him !

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 03:59 PM the letzer dor Says:

go sholom go...... when its all over send the winning court verdict to that two faced Obama who slandered you on his campaign trail...finding you all guilty before innocent.. ......................some fligging lawyer that Obama.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 03:58 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #13  
Anonymous Says:

“on Oct 13 (25th of Tishri) is the yurtzeit of the bardrisher ruv my they be helped in his zechus

No disrespect, but who is the Bardrisher rabbi and what is his linkage to the Rubashkin matter.

I think he means Reb Levi Yitzchok meBerditschev ZYA, sanigoiroi shel Yisroel (the defender of Klal Yisroel).

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 03:33 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #13  
Anonymous Says:

“on Oct 13 (25th of Tishri) is the yurtzeit of the bardrisher ruv my they be helped in his zechus

No disrespect, but who is the Bardrisher rabbi and what is his linkage to the Rubashkin matter.

You read it wrong he wrote bardichiver rav. He was a chassidishe leader who always looked to see the good in other yidden. May it be in his zchus that Sholom will be freed.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 04:29 PM formally Says:

Reply to #16  
the letzer dor Says:

go sholom go...... when its all over send the winning court verdict to that two faced Obama who slandered you on his campaign trail...finding you all guilty before innocent.. ......................some fligging lawyer that Obama.

or some will wave the guilty verdict in your face.

If found guilty it won't be the first time a Rubaskin will be found guilty of a crime

the family has a criminal record for bank fraud and cheating workers.

there where fined and imprisoned for 15 months in the 1990's

do a search and see

they are nor a elicha family if they where convicted and now accused for the same type of crimes

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 06:12 PM potsville resident Says:

he should be forced to stand trial in the same town which he single handedly destroyed !

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 07:02 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
potsville resident Says:

he should be forced to stand trial in the same town which he single handedly destroyed !

You are no postville resident! If you were you would not come up with such stupidity! This person built that town from a little hickvill to a busseling economic capital growthe state. Sadly but true our government want to nationalise everything in this country. So why not destroy a town and community that did it all alone with out the government funding or help. Lets not forget iowas best beef. What they sent by thousands of tons to the ng usm/n listen here mate whomever you mite be your better off just keeping your thoughts to yourself! You will start feeling ever so slightly more intalectual.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 07:09 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
potsville resident Says:

he should be forced to stand trial in the same town which he single handedly destroyed !

To #20 - you seem to forget that much of the city's success was due to him as well.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 06:03 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #19  
formally Says:

or some will wave the guilty verdict in your face.

If found guilty it won't be the first time a Rubaskin will be found guilty of a crime

the family has a criminal record for bank fraud and cheating workers.

there where fined and imprisoned for 15 months in the 1990's

do a search and see

they are nor a elicha family if they where convicted and now accused for the same type of crimes

It seems as if you're in desperate need of some DA's in heaven this Rosh Hashona... Do you know that with every bad judgement you a say on a Yid, the SAME thing occurs to YOU in the oylem h'elyoin!? Do you really need the Sutan to be m'katrig on you and that Hashem should then inspect every action of yours with a magnifying glass??

If you don't think he's right, keep the opinion to yourself. Hashem doesn't need negetive judgements on his children. It only increases evil in this world and causes YOUR image to change negetively by our Father.


Think before you speak!!!

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 07:31 PM Perele Says:

I saw his mother today in front of their deli on thirteenth avenue, tidying up, what a tzadekes! lomir heren besires toives!

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 07:24 PM To #20 Says:

Reply to #19  
formally Says:

or some will wave the guilty verdict in your face.

If found guilty it won't be the first time a Rubaskin will be found guilty of a crime

the family has a criminal record for bank fraud and cheating workers.

there where fined and imprisoned for 15 months in the 1990's

do a search and see

they are nor a elicha family if they where convicted and now accused for the same type of crimes

What you post is disgusting.
You advocate to criminilize him because of his name? Where do you live, the former USSR???
Can you please state your name and contact info, so that the prosecution can contact you, if not for ever remain silent.

On another note we are now in Elul, think before you talk.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 07:14 PM To #13 Says:

The holy Barditchiver was known also as the great defender of the Jewish nation. It is also the yahrtzeit of the great Chasam Sofer

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 07:15 PM To #20 Says:

If you were a real postville resident you would never post such a msg. Your msg truly shows your true colors

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 07:57 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
potsville resident Says:

he should be forced to stand trial in the same town which he single handedly destroyed !

If you were really a Postville resident, you would know that the "s" comes before the "t" in Postville.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 07:57 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

We will win this one. This is a milchama between Orthodox and reform and we need and Im"h will win. The facts of how it payed out are not relevant.

"a milchama between Orthodox and reform " ???

What a vicious and stupid thing to say. Advocating that Klal Yisroel should be divided especially during Elul? What happens ifd you don't win- does that mean that Reform did?

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 08:16 PM formally Says:

Reply to #25  
To #20 Says:

What you post is disgusting.
You advocate to criminilize him because of his name? Where do you live, the former USSR???
Can you please state your name and contact info, so that the prosecution can contact you, if not for ever remain silent.

On another note we are now in Elul, think before you talk.

I guess the truth hurts

stop pretending this is some innocent family that is being persecuted. These are his brother and father.

the DA knows this it is public knowledge everybody knows this but you guys and you most likely know these just you stick you head in cement and pretend it did not happen

the point was not to beat him down but to say this is not as many say a purely holy family and that these accusation are not true. and cannot be true since they are such a pure family The family has been doing this type of things for many years. So to think that the government is making all this up, and the charges are only because he is a yid, is simply stupid they have done such things in the past and have spent time in jail. Stop crying and yelling all the time antisemitism when a yid get arrested because he did something wrong. Since when it comes a time when it is really antisemitism no one will listen because you
cried wolf to often

It is Elul and Rubashkin will have to answer for his crimes if convicted, not only to the government but to Hashem too.

Do not forget that.


#23 "H"ashem doesn't need negetive judgements on his children. "

no, he does not, he sees it for himself and his is ashamed of the actions of some of his children who hid and make believe they are frum and then go and commit fraud and cheat their workers out of the money they earned and then try to clean the slate by giving tzadhuaka.

He is ashamed of the actions of a small group of yiddin and angry that others do not condemn at the very least their actions.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 08:47 PM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

I'm not sure it will make any difference....everyone in the region has heard about the the "Rubashkin Affair" and the Agriproccesors' case. There are very few Jews in South Dakota so maybe they haven't focused on the details but the local media will quickly pick up the story.

...There's still a difference. When it's the "Talk of the town", in addition to the negative publicity generated by the media.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 10:21 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #30  
formally Says:

I guess the truth hurts

stop pretending this is some innocent family that is being persecuted. These are his brother and father.

the DA knows this it is public knowledge everybody knows this but you guys and you most likely know these just you stick you head in cement and pretend it did not happen

the point was not to beat him down but to say this is not as many say a purely holy family and that these accusation are not true. and cannot be true since they are such a pure family The family has been doing this type of things for many years. So to think that the government is making all this up, and the charges are only because he is a yid, is simply stupid they have done such things in the past and have spent time in jail. Stop crying and yelling all the time antisemitism when a yid get arrested because he did something wrong. Since when it comes a time when it is really antisemitism no one will listen because you
cried wolf to often

It is Elul and Rubashkin will have to answer for his crimes if convicted, not only to the government but to Hashem too.

Do not forget that.


#23 "H"ashem doesn't need negetive judgements on his children. "

no, he does not, he sees it for himself and his is ashamed of the actions of some of his children who hid and make believe they are frum and then go and commit fraud and cheat their workers out of the money they earned and then try to clean the slate by giving tzadhuaka.

He is ashamed of the actions of a small group of yiddin and angry that others do not condemn at the very least their actions.

While you do sound semi- educated and may make some half valid points, it is clear from the way you speak that you find it easy to speak negatively about another jew.
That is arguably the worst middah that one can have.
Ask yourself if you'd speak about the defendant this way if he was you're own brother... Then wake up and realize that he is.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 10:02 PM only way to succeed Says:

Sholom Mordechai Halevi ben Rivka

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 10:29 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #30  
formally Says:

I guess the truth hurts

stop pretending this is some innocent family that is being persecuted. These are his brother and father.

the DA knows this it is public knowledge everybody knows this but you guys and you most likely know these just you stick you head in cement and pretend it did not happen

the point was not to beat him down but to say this is not as many say a purely holy family and that these accusation are not true. and cannot be true since they are such a pure family The family has been doing this type of things for many years. So to think that the government is making all this up, and the charges are only because he is a yid, is simply stupid they have done such things in the past and have spent time in jail. Stop crying and yelling all the time antisemitism when a yid get arrested because he did something wrong. Since when it comes a time when it is really antisemitism no one will listen because you
cried wolf to often

It is Elul and Rubashkin will have to answer for his crimes if convicted, not only to the government but to Hashem too.

Do not forget that.


#23 "H"ashem doesn't need negetive judgements on his children. "

no, he does not, he sees it for himself and his is ashamed of the actions of some of his children who hid and make believe they are frum and then go and commit fraud and cheat their workers out of the money they earned and then try to clean the slate by giving tzadhuaka.

He is ashamed of the actions of a small group of yiddin and angry that others do not condemn at the very least their actions.

Shame, shame! Do tshuva before yom hadin!

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 10:27 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #13  
Anonymous Says:

“on Oct 13 (25th of Tishri) is the yurtzeit of the bardrisher ruv my they be helped in his zechus

No disrespect, but who is the Bardrisher rabbi and what is his linkage to the Rubashkin matter.

Gai leren a goy barteneira

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 Sep 02, 2009 at 05:19 AM .. Says:

Reply to #34  
Anonymous Says:

Shame, shame! Do tshuva before yom hadin!

I love to see the supporters ignore what the rest of the oilem sees and hears. Does ot make a difference how Postville has suffered because of one family's greed. Does not matter on the chillul hashem that was done in Iowa because of one family's selfishness. It matters that I should look at my own 'shame' because I try to give someone mussar during ellul.

Yom Hadim applies to the Rubashkin family also. There are many many yidden that are suffering because they lost their business while the Rubashkins ruled the market. Do you realize that there is no Kosher butcher left in Washington Heights because Rubashkin overcharged the butcher while giving meat at discount prices to the goyish grocery store 2 blocks away?? How many shuls did the goy support? How many of his kids went to Yeshiva? What mikva did his wife go to?

Don't tell me that Yom Hadin is coming. We know that, already. You better tell it to those who did not care about it during the rest of the year.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 11:25 PM Anonymous Says:

I've been writing and saying this for the past year:

Sholom Mordechai HaLevi ben Rivka will walk away completely from these charges and I would not be surprised that he sues the U.S. Government and wins.

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 Sep 01, 2009 at 11:10 PM formally Says:

Reply to #32  
Anonymous Says:

While you do sound semi- educated and may make some half valid points, it is clear from the way you speak that you find it easy to speak negatively about another jew.
That is arguably the worst middah that one can have.
Ask yourself if you'd speak about the defendant this way if he was you're own brother... Then wake up and realize that he is.

maybe but don't you think Rhubashkin should do tshuva.

The point is maybe I should not say negative but he should not be treated as a victim and a tzaddik, when he is not
Futher, I am not sure if people realize how bad this looks, that we always defend the bad but how does it look for the Jewish children who see how people who commit fraud are still looked at as upstanding frum Yiddin what are you teaching the next generation that is you commit fraud or steal do not worry we will not take a way any koved you are still considered a very holy person.

That is the lesson you are teaching the young the next generation, steal we will protect you from the government and we will not punish you at all and tell everybody how much charity you give and treat you like a tzaddik. That is what your children to learn

also what I find interesting if he was caught being mechalel shobbos, or eating treif or something of that nature, maybe even eating choluv akim. The news would be blasted all over from shul to shul and people should not buy from him anymore. Nobody would say how could you say negative things about a yid you would say we need to let people know

why is it that we are so lax when it comes to fraud, stealing, and things of that nature. The same Torah that said to keep shobbos also says not to steal do fraud and things like that but now one seems to care or take those issues seriously.

Maybe you could answer me? .

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 Sep 02, 2009 at 07:35 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #38  
formally Says:

maybe but don't you think Rhubashkin should do tshuva.

The point is maybe I should not say negative but he should not be treated as a victim and a tzaddik, when he is not
Futher, I am not sure if people realize how bad this looks, that we always defend the bad but how does it look for the Jewish children who see how people who commit fraud are still looked at as upstanding frum Yiddin what are you teaching the next generation that is you commit fraud or steal do not worry we will not take a way any koved you are still considered a very holy person.

That is the lesson you are teaching the young the next generation, steal we will protect you from the government and we will not punish you at all and tell everybody how much charity you give and treat you like a tzaddik. That is what your children to learn

also what I find interesting if he was caught being mechalel shobbos, or eating treif or something of that nature, maybe even eating choluv akim. The news would be blasted all over from shul to shul and people should not buy from him anymore. Nobody would say how could you say negative things about a yid you would say we need to let people know

why is it that we are so lax when it comes to fraud, stealing, and things of that nature. The same Torah that said to keep shobbos also says not to steal do fraud and things like that but now one seems to care or take those issues seriously.

Maybe you could answer me? .

Let me tell u something. When news spreads about somebody that is committing serious aveiras such as selling non-kosher meat (like the finkel story) or chilul shabbos, it is usually always based on common knowledge and is important to spread (it is not considered lushon horah if its proven emes) so that ppl should be aware of it and not be nich'shl. However, when the talk is about a family that has obviously been doing lots of positive things with the money they had (though we may hear some bad stuff here and there) it is still our responsibility (according to halacha AND secular law) to judge that person favorable UNTIL proven guilty. Nobody has asked u to say any positive of yidden sitting in jail for crimes they committed such as fraud. All I asked of you, was to follow at least what our countries' forefathers found important to put into the constitution - "innocent until proven guilty". If you think you're smarter than them, then think about what Hashem put in is Heiliga Torah, which (l'havdil)teaches us the same thing. Al tudin es chaveirechu od shetagiya l'mkoimoi. DON'T judge your fellow jew UNTIL you are in his place.

No one is looking to teach our kids to follow the misdeeds that (shamefully) some of our brothers comitted. All we wanna teach them is not to judge them until in their place because one can NEVER know under what circumstances that person was.

So formally, all I'm asking you is to work just a bit on your middah of "dan l'kaf z'chis". It won't hurt if you come to the yom hadin as a BETTER YID!
A git gebencht yur!

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 Sep 02, 2009 at 10:28 AM Menashe Says:

Reply to #12  
Anonymous Says:

Wasn't he arrested during the reign of our 'friend' George Bush?

What did George Bush have to do with the Rubashkin affair? Did he order that they be prosecuted? Of course not. Aren't there arrests during every president's "reign", as you describe his term? Did you expect him to overrule the prosecutor and judge and let them go without a trial? In a dictatorship that might be possible but that's not how our democratic system works.

In America you are free, among other things, to criticize a president, since you put "friend" in quotation marks, but to me he was probably the best friend Israel ever had in the White House. According to his religious beliefs Israel was the home of the Jews and he did all he could to protect the country and make it more secure.. Just compare his behavior to the present president's.

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 Sep 02, 2009 at 12:03 PM .. Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

Let me tell u something. When news spreads about somebody that is committing serious aveiras such as selling non-kosher meat (like the finkel story) or chilul shabbos, it is usually always based on common knowledge and is important to spread (it is not considered lushon horah if its proven emes) so that ppl should be aware of it and not be nich'shl. However, when the talk is about a family that has obviously been doing lots of positive things with the money they had (though we may hear some bad stuff here and there) it is still our responsibility (according to halacha AND secular law) to judge that person favorable UNTIL proven guilty. Nobody has asked u to say any positive of yidden sitting in jail for crimes they committed such as fraud. All I asked of you, was to follow at least what our countries' forefathers found important to put into the constitution - "innocent until proven guilty". If you think you're smarter than them, then think about what Hashem put in is Heiliga Torah, which (l'havdil)teaches us the same thing. Al tudin es chaveirechu od shetagiya l'mkoimoi. DON'T judge your fellow jew UNTIL you are in his place.

No one is looking to teach our kids to follow the misdeeds that (shamefully) some of our brothers comitted. All we wanna teach them is not to judge them until in their place because one can NEVER know under what circumstances that person was.

So formally, all I'm asking you is to work just a bit on your middah of "dan l'kaf z'chis". It won't hurt if you come to the yom hadin as a BETTER YID!
A git gebencht yur!

Let me tell you something.

You look at the agriprocessors story as a fairy tale of governmant abuse that went awry. Everyone outside the hashkofa of CH looks at it as an abuse of privaledge and power. Running a business with 350 aliens working there - I do not believe that no one knew that they were illegal - especially when there were blank ID forms in the office. Especially when the same employees had multiple identities. We are not that stupid and naive as you would want us to be.

Bank fraud?? I have seen many times on these pages the excuse that it is impossible to fill out the forms 100% of the time and everytime you fill out a credit card. application, you might mess up one little line. We are talking about millions of dollars of fraud. Not a tiny white lie. Again, we are not that stupid aas you want us to be.

Family does matter. We look at the brothers, the brothers in law and other family members to see a pattern. Mistakes can happen, but when there is a family history of multiple counts of fraud, one wonders if we should support that family at all. We might glibly claim 'dan l'kaf zechus', but when that family has the zechus of multiple visits to federal facilities, their ne'e'manos is completely shot. No other meat company has gone through the tzores that they have gone through. For good reason - no other meat company has thumbed their noses at the authorities as they have.

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 Sep 02, 2009 at 01:05 PM formally Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

Let me tell u something. When news spreads about somebody that is committing serious aveiras such as selling non-kosher meat (like the finkel story) or chilul shabbos, it is usually always based on common knowledge and is important to spread (it is not considered lushon horah if its proven emes) so that ppl should be aware of it and not be nich'shl. However, when the talk is about a family that has obviously been doing lots of positive things with the money they had (though we may hear some bad stuff here and there) it is still our responsibility (according to halacha AND secular law) to judge that person favorable UNTIL proven guilty. Nobody has asked u to say any positive of yidden sitting in jail for crimes they committed such as fraud. All I asked of you, was to follow at least what our countries' forefathers found important to put into the constitution - "innocent until proven guilty". If you think you're smarter than them, then think about what Hashem put in is Heiliga Torah, which (l'havdil)teaches us the same thing. Al tudin es chaveirechu od shetagiya l'mkoimoi. DON'T judge your fellow jew UNTIL you are in his place.

No one is looking to teach our kids to follow the misdeeds that (shamefully) some of our brothers comitted. All we wanna teach them is not to judge them until in their place because one can NEVER know under what circumstances that person was.

So formally, all I'm asking you is to work just a bit on your middah of "dan l'kaf z'chis". It won't hurt if you come to the yom hadin as a BETTER YID!
A git gebencht yur!

a: innocent until proven guilty is only for the court of law
b. if found guilty and sits in jails a year or two he will be given koved and maybe even a catered dinner with a band like Lakewood yeshiva just did for someone who scammed 3 million + dollars and just got out of jail and hailed him a tzaddik (tzaddik a convicted fraudster) it is all on video.

c the family we are talking about has a history of being convicted for fraud and sitting in jail. So it is a little more suspect than someone who has no criminal record

d. I was not mentioning if they sold treif I was mentioning if he ate treif

e. Doing good giving charity with money coming from fraud and or cheating his workers should not be counted as a good deed. And maybe the yeshiva should not even take the money

"No one is looking to teach our kids to follow the misdeeds that (shamefully) some of our brothers comitted."

However by not condemning them when they are found guilty and suffer nothing at all from the community they will get all the koved they want with a few dollars they are still looked at as very upstanding citizens, unknowingly the children see that and see crimes pays.

when I was in yeshiva two days after a guy was let out of prison for fraud a major litvish yeshiva they held a dinner in his honer.
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All the boys laughed and made jokes for weeks about that

The main point is whenever a yid gets arrested everybody acts like it never ever happened before and it is virtually impossible that the person is guilty because he he looks frum and keeps shobbos and so on. They say antisemitism, or antiheridie and do not look at the evdence at all. and if convicted say antisemtic jury.

A person wears a tallis, davens 3 times a day and is very religious and so on. That same person can be a ganav in business. and we should not close our eyes and just say FRUM=Innocent

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