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U.S. pop superstar Madonna, long blond hair with black cap, is accompanied by friends, visits the tomb of Jewish mystic Rabbi Isaac Luria in Safed, northern Israel, Thursday, Sept. 3, 2009.Jerusalem - Pop music icon Madonna, who took Israel by storm earlier this week with two back-to-back concerts in Tel Aviv, wrapped up her tour with a visit Thursday night to the Safed tomb of a kabbalistic great.
Rabbi Isaac Luri - or the Ari - was one of the founders of kabbalism, a tradition Madonna has embraced over the last few years.
Pilgrims flock year round to his grave and the neighboring ritual bath at the foot of the ancient northern city.
Madonna was accompanied in her visit by Rabbi Michael Berg, her own rabbi’s brother, as well as her partner Jesus. At the site, she sang the Sabbath song “Lecha Dodi,” ringing in with a kabbalistic tune.
During her visit, the material girl has paid tribute to Jerusalem’s Old City, where she toured an ancient tunnel near the Western Wall - the holiest site where Jews can pray.
Madonna isn’t Jewish, but she’s a follower of Jewish mysticism and has even taken the Hebrew name Esther.
She arrived early Sunday for a pair of concerts in Tel Aviv this week. It was be her first performance in Israel since 1993, though she came on private pilgrimages in 2004 and 2007.
Madonna is also set to meet Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Friday.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:02 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
tzei tumei...
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:10 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
At least she doesn't claim to be jewish
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:07 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
It was a real kovod to the memory of the Ari to have a world famous artist such as Madonna sing l'cha dodi by his kever. The few fortunate yiddin who were at the kever at the time will remember this moment for a lifetime.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:07 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
she is a shandah...........
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:06 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Yuck!!!!!!!!!!
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:05 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Wouldnt it be a wonderif she converted to Orthodox Judaism and brought thousands of followers with her? That would really signal Ikvisa D'meshicha.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:14 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Hashem Yishmor!
If only the Arizal could take one more dip in his mikveh to rid the shmutz she left there.
(By the way who sings Lecha Dodi on Thursday night?)
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:13 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
uch this is disgusting. it shows how the klipah is attracted to the kedusha.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:12 AM what a joke! Says:Report as Inappropriate
she spread filth all over the world, how do people have the chutzpa to take her to the gravesite of such a holy tzadik?! Thats crazy.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:18 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ It was a real kovod to the memory of the Ari to have a world famous artist such as Madonna sing l'cha dodi by his kever. The few fortunate yiddin who were at the kever at the time will remember this moment for a lifetime. ”
I'm sure the rebbe's neshama is kvelling...such a kavod.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:14 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
It looks like the frum person in the picture is actually touching her
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:33 AM David Says:Report as Inappropriate
OK, the word "freakish" comes to mind.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:32 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ It looks like the frum person in the picture is actually touching her ”
"It looks like the frum person in the picture is actually touching her”
That "frum person" you refer to is the rav Mechial Berg, shlita, who came from the U.S. with her to EY.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:32 AM Berl Says:Report as Inappropriate
To #11
You would too, if you ever had the chance.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:31 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
blah blah blah. so she went to the gravesite.. she is not the most perfect person.. I know I am not to good and I go to krevers for help. everyone is allowed to pray no one sees wats in her soul. how can anyone judge her. the high hoildays are coming up and I am happy none of u (above posters) are not judging me. everyone has a spark in them.. don't b so fast to judge.. so her style in life is different.. she's not sitting in brklyn telling u to look at her or listen to her..
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:28 AM MIESQ Says:Report as Inappropriate
TO #3 SATIRE?
To #6 Great finding the good points. However at present Nebach the Tzaddikim had to tolerate her presence. But maybe just maybe even someone like her really wants to turn to Hahsem but has not found the right guides yet just the e Berg boys' counterfeit Kabala.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:25 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
rely to #3 : surely you ust be sarcastic. ITS KOL ISHA or KOL CHAYA; berg is over every simgle avery except suicide
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:22 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
The Ari HaKadosh came to me in a dream that night . . .
. . . and asked me to help him run away.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:41 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
its a bitter laugh (TZCHOK MACHAIV)
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:49 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ To #11
You would too, if you ever had the chance. ”
i wouldnt touch her with a 10 foot pole
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:47 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Gevalt! Gevalt!! Such a terrible bizayon to the tsion of the heilige Ari Hakodesh!
The Sitra Achra is taking over everything.......!!!
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:57 AM berel Says:Report as Inappropriate
'al ale ani bociah....shesalim holchu bo'
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:56 AM No kavod at all Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ It was a real kovod to the memory of the Ari to have a world famous artist such as Madonna sing l'cha dodi by his kever. The few fortunate yiddin who were at the kever at the time will remember this moment for a lifetime. ”
maybe this is a little tonic to your Jewish inferior complex but there is only sadness
when such a slut impurifies a holy place.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:56 AM nat Says:Report as Inappropriate
I wouldn't be surprised (and I suspect ) that she is Jewish.
We yidden believe in hashgacha pratis, divine providence. Interestingly the holy composer of Lecha Dodi rests about four graves from the Ari Hakadosh.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:52 AM YG Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ It looks like the frum person in the picture is actually touching her ”
The 'frum person' is Michael Berg who might be worse off than Madonna. Mistame he wears the Yarmulka to cover the bald spot on his head - nothing more.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:50 AM Sivan Says:Report as Inappropriate
Eeewww what a shande!!!
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Sep 04, 2009 at 11:05 AM Askupeh Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ To #11
You would too, if you ever had the chance. ”
Oy Berel Berel, come I’ll show you Yiden who don’t want to touch her, Yiden who are holy and pure, Yiden who control their eyes wherever they go. Yiden who go through Yosef Hatzadiks Nisoiyoiness on a daily basis and come out unscratched. It’s Erev Rosh Hashonoh, the Shofar is sounding WAKE UP, you too can still become an active member of a Mamleches Kohanim Vegoi Kodosh. All it takes is a small effort but a pure one. I knoe people who succeeded last year, a year before, ten years ago. No matter how far someone has Farkruchen he can still become a five star general in the army of Hashem. All it takes is to signup. No background check is done.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 11:18 AM Yisrel Says:Report as Inappropriate
Truth speaks out.
It’s a Kiddush Hsem that even a non-Jew embraces Judaism.
Welcome Madonna
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Sep 04, 2009 at 11:18 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
mamish mashiach tzeitun
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Sep 04, 2009 at 11:16 AM Tatte in Himmel Says:Report as Inappropriate
At least she has Ahavas Yisroel, and is not a sonei yisroel. Baruch to her.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 11:40 AM berel Says:Report as Inappropriate
#6...there is no mitzvah whatsoever she or anyone should convert. let her stay a righteous gentile and she will have her share in the world to come like all gentiles .ifshe does something wrong as a gentile in her profession? I dont know.but we ehrliche shomrei torah yidden are oiver on the 'lo sasuru achrei einichem and other laven when we look and observe and think on this subject.' kol huoimar rachov nikrah'
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Sep 04, 2009 at 11:37 AM power up Says:Report as Inappropriate
hashem yerachim
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Sep 04, 2009 at 11:46 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
I don't know why everyone is going so crazy about HER, what does she know...she wasn't bought up with anything better in fact she might have a jewish soul deep down as known from the ger tzedek of Vilna ...the one to focus on is the so-called rabbi Berg I wonder how much $$ he's getting out of this whole kabbalah-business is probably worth millions between all the other lost souls... membership must be on the rise..just check out its website!
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Sep 04, 2009 at 11:31 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
there is so much hate on this article. relax everyone she isn't Jewish but shes allowed to be interested in mysticism shes not about to convert so there's no halachos shes obligated to follow. out of all people in this world madonna treats Judaism with respect and honor and its a shame on whoever posted nasty, slanderous and hurtful comments on this blog. it should be equal to lashon hora at its absolute worst.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 11:27 AM Yisrel Says:Report as Inappropriate
Modana is in Kabala, and she is calling her self “Esther” in Hebrew
One of the biggest scientists of all time Isaac Newton (who was not Jewish) studied a lot of Kabala.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 12:25 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ To #11
You would too, if you ever had the chance. ”
Are you a frum jew???
Obviously not. A erlicha yid knows about such a kitzoi shel yid.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 12:22 PM JH Says:Report as Inappropriate
The Ari Hakadosh is either laughing or crying, but either way its an embarrassment. If the Chareidem there can beat up women not up to their standards of tznius and fight with cops, where were they when this Prutza Reshanta showed up?!
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Sep 04, 2009 at 12:18 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ It was a real kovod to the memory of the Ari to have a world famous artist such as Madonna sing l'cha dodi by his kever. The few fortunate yiddin who were at the kever at the time will remember this moment for a lifetime. ”
R U totally nuts????
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Sep 04, 2009 at 12:14 PM berel Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ there is so much hate on this article. relax everyone she isn't Jewish but shes allowed to be interested in mysticism shes not about to convert so there's no halachos shes obligated to follow. out of all people in this world madonna treats Judaism with respect and honor and its a shame on whoever posted nasty, slanderous and hurtful comments on this blog. it should be equal to lashon hora at its absolute worst. ”
#34 hackt nit kain chainik...theres no hate. if one admonishes or points out something not 'kosher', immoral its not hate. postings are not for sensitive people.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 12:11 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ blah blah blah. so she went to the gravesite.. she is not the most perfect person.. I know I am not to good and I go to krevers for help. everyone is allowed to pray no one sees wats in her soul. how can anyone judge her. the high hoildays are coming up and I am happy none of u (above posters) are not judging me. everyone has a spark in them.. don't b so fast to judge.. so her style in life is different.. she's not sitting in brklyn telling u to look at her or listen to her.. ”
she's not perfect person? she is a shtick tumah personified.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 12:08 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ there is so much hate on this article. relax everyone she isn't Jewish but shes allowed to be interested in mysticism shes not about to convert so there's no halachos shes obligated to follow. out of all people in this world madonna treats Judaism with respect and honor and its a shame on whoever posted nasty, slanderous and hurtful comments on this blog. it should be equal to lashon hora at its absolute worst. ”
What a hypocrite. Have you ever made a similar statement about the hate against Chasidim on this blog? Is it Lashon Horah ONLY when it's against a goy or a secular Jew?
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Sep 04, 2009 at 11:56 AM Simon Says:Report as Inappropriate
Someone who is not burn to a Jewish mother doesn’t have to follow the “Taryag Mitvos”.
If they keep the 7 laws of Noah thay will go to haven.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 11:23 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Anyone who thinks that this is a kavod in any way and doesn't hurt from reading this story is far - very far. There is only one way to get close. Find someone who will learn Torah with you - anything. mussar, chumash, navi, mishna, gemara, aggada, halacha, etc. but it must be something that works with your particular learning strength. Do it. Stop Waiting. There are so many people who would learn with you if only you asked them.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:40 AM Toronto Chusid Says:Report as Inappropriate
Some people can never see the bright side of things. Haleli es Hashem KOL Goyim, Shabchihi KOL Huimim.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 10:38 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ It looks like the frum person in the picture is actually touching her ”
That is "Rabbi" Berg. He is the perpetrator of the Kabala Center and one would be hard pressed to call him frum. You can not assume one is frum just because they wear a yarmulka. There are many so called reform and conservative that now wear yarmulkas.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 12:45 PM Simon Says:Report as Inappropriate
# 37 is hate.
You don’t know what the Ari Hkudish is doing.
I know “Vrei kol ami hetretz ki shem hsem nkru alach”
I see in this a “Kidish Hsem”
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Sep 04, 2009 at 12:42 PM berel Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ there is so much hate on this article. relax everyone she isn't Jewish but shes allowed to be interested in mysticism shes not about to convert so there's no halachos shes obligated to follow. out of all people in this world madonna treats Judaism with respect and honor and its a shame on whoever posted nasty, slanderous and hurtful comments on this blog. it should be equal to lashon hora at its absolute worst. ”
#34..its not lashan horah and definately not at its worst...
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Sep 04, 2009 at 01:23 PM moshele Says:Report as Inappropriate
we are sure that the same we see in the khaballa books that it isn't posseble that the shaceina should rest on the western wall when a man full of sin is there the same when titus did what he did in go-ds temple the same was when this so called ester that spreads zinus all over the world was on the grave of this great tzadik that his soul wasnt there hasem yarachiem
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Sep 04, 2009 at 01:19 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
There are plenty goyim who come and daven at the Tzion of the Lubavitcher Rebbe ZT"L. I did not see anyone condemn or put a stop to this. Also, in Iraq the arabs go and pray at the our neviim' tzionim. What is the whole todo? The only thing she should have kept her mouth shot, and not one comment would have come.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 01:24 PM Yankel from Williamsburg Says:Report as Inappropriate
Hashem Yerachaim, its mamash nevie ball its mamash like it says in micha peruk 5 posuk 10 vehurasto kol mivtsoracho.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 01:09 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
All I can see that this is a wake-up call! Even someone as succesful and popular as Madonna - sees herself as an emty wastful life without any spirituallity which she fulfills via kabbala without that she feels her life as meaningless as ever! The moral of the message in Elul is; Ashrenu Ma Tov Chalkenu! and wee shall all focus on strenghting our rightful given Torah at least with the same "hislahavot" (le'havdol)as she does!!
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Sep 04, 2009 at 02:17 PM Getzel the Pretzel Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ i wouldnt touch her with a 10 foot pole ”
Good. There is a sheilah of negiah al yedai davar achar. The sheila is based on how to learn up the Taz in hilchos niddah. The pashtus is that negiah al yidai davar achar is not assur. There is a similar sheilah about a husband pushing his wife in a wheel chair after she just gave birth. R' Nissin Karelitz is mattir, in part because he holds this is only negiah al yidai achar and therefore muttar. However, pshat in the Taz is not entirely clear.
For all the people who commented on how the Arizal feels, see the gemara in Brochos in the 2nd perek as to whether massim care about what happens in this world. Besides for that, how do you know how the Arizal feels? I find it regrettable that a shtick tuma goes around EY and peole think it is legitimate. However, why put words into other people's mouths?
"Madonna was accompanied in her visit by Rabbi Michael Berg, her own rabbi's brother, as well as her partner Jesus."
Michael, take a look at the rema in YD 246 and the Schach about learning kabbalah. Her partner has a great name. Nazareth is not that far.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 01:52 PM Gave A Get Says:Report as Inappropriate
It must Acharis Hayomim and the first of the non-Yiddishe of the nations is coming to pay homage to our greatness. I can't figure out anything else :-(
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Sep 04, 2009 at 01:29 PM Aron Says:Report as Inappropriate
Why is she “sprading sins all over the world”?
She is not Jewish she can dress and sing they she wants. You are not allowed to watch it. That’s it.
First fix yourself
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Sep 04, 2009 at 03:30 PM yenta Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ It was a real kovod to the memory of the Ari to have a world famous artist such as Madonna sing l'cha dodi by his kever. The few fortunate yiddin who were at the kever at the time will remember this moment for a lifetime. ”
fortunate?
how fortunate can it be to hear this outspoken prutzah singing. even the singing of a erliche woman is ervah, kal vachomer of this ..............
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Sep 04, 2009 at 03:32 PM huh Says:Report as Inappropriate
I don't hear anyone getting excited when the worst of the worst(obama and others) go to visit the kosel one of the biggest mokom kodosh there is even more then the arizal kever
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Sep 04, 2009 at 04:18 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ there is so much hate on this article. relax everyone she isn't Jewish but shes allowed to be interested in mysticism shes not about to convert so there's no halachos shes obligated to follow. out of all people in this world madonna treats Judaism with respect and honor and its a shame on whoever posted nasty, slanderous and hurtful comments on this blog. it should be equal to lashon hora at its absolute worst. ”
Yes, what is the horror that someone has an interest in a saint's kever. I'm sure the Arizal can work this out without all of you chiming in. I wish her well. And no, I'm not a fan ... but this is so interesting.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 04:09 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Lecha Dodi was NOT written by the Ari"zal!!!
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Sep 04, 2009 at 04:06 PM Which song? Says:Report as Inappropriate
Which Lacha Dodi did she sing - from Gur or Carelbach?
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Sep 04, 2009 at 04:46 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Goyim were allowed to donate korbonos in the Beis Hamikdosh. I'm sure thay were no better that Madonnna. So what's so terrible for her to go to a kever.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 05:24 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Lecha Dodi was NOT written by the Ari"zal!!! ”
Therefore?...well FYI, he's (the bal lecho dodi) buried right next to the Arizal...
BTW..looks like her next concert is going to include some kind of a lehco dodi" :)
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Sep 04, 2009 at 05:22 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Truth speaks out.
It’s a Kiddush Hsem that even a non-Jew embraces Judaism.
Welcome Madonna
”
She doesn't embrace Judaism, she's just attracted to the mysticism surrounding Kabbalah.
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Sep 04, 2009 at 05:45 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Why are you people so bitter and excited about this? The woman is genuinely moved by Jewish ideas and this is how she expresses it. Maybe you don't agree with her, but I see nice things here, not a cause for such hysteria that I am reading on this blog. There is something hypocritical about it. It's not very nice.
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Sep 05, 2009 at 09:27 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Madonna is a Pritza, singing her Shmutz, whose Tumah should never have been allowed in the Holy Land, let alone near the grave of a holy sage.
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Sep 05, 2009 at 10:24 PM Nosson Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Lecha Dodi was NOT written by the Ari"zal!!! ”
No, but Shlomo haLevi Alkabetz who did write it is buried next to the Ar"i.
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Sep 05, 2009 at 10:43 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ It was a real kovod to the memory of the Ari to have a world famous artist such as Madonna sing l'cha dodi by his kever. The few fortunate yiddin who were at the kever at the time will remember this moment for a lifetime. ”
it would be a bigger kovod if she rather goes to michael jackson grave
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Sep 05, 2009 at 11:27 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Goyim were allowed to donate korbonos in the Beis Hamikdosh. I'm sure thay were no better that Madonnna. So what's so terrible for her to go to a kever. ”
no they would not except a korben from a women that goes 3/4 undresed a women like that would be jailed in most parts in the middle easet besides isreal what a shame
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Sep 05, 2009 at 09:22 PM vestin Says:Report as Inappropriate
I dont understand what the big deal is, jews who daven say on the sholosh regalim in mussaf "ki baysi beis tefilla yikoray l'chol haamim" EVERYONE jew and gentile is welcome to daven in hakodosh barchu's house, so surely they are all welcome to come and pray at a grave. And since when are all you complainers, such authorities to be judge and jury and decide what is or isnt an appropriate tefilla?
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Sep 06, 2009 at 05:23 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I dont understand what the big deal is, jews who daven say on the sholosh regalim in mussaf "ki baysi beis tefilla yikoray l'chol haamim" EVERYONE jew and gentile is welcome to daven in hakodosh barchu's house, so surely they are all welcome to come and pray at a grave. And since when are all you complainers, such authorities to be judge and jury and decide what is or isnt an appropriate tefilla? ”
A Yoshka-worshiping Pritza who goes around 3/4 undressed and who sings Shmutz in her recordings and at her concerts, singing in front of men, is not welcome in the Holy Land and is not welcome to pray at the grave of a Tzadik. What don't you understand?
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Sep 06, 2009 at 04:52 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
WHH
Accompanied by her partner "Yushkah" ??? She can go wherever she wants but if she is truly interested in the teachings of the Kabbalah, she would do well to stay away from the Holy Ari with "Yushkah" at the very least.
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Sep 06, 2009 at 07:25 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
I don't know how many people are aware of this but, a few years ago she made a music video wearing tefillin. Nuch a kiddush hashem!
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Sep 06, 2009 at 03:30 AM Bugsy Siegel Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ "It looks like the frum person in the picture is actually touching her”
That "frum person" you refer to is the rav Mechial Berg, shlita, who came from the U.S. with her to EY. ”
Rabbi Berg is no rabbi. As for goyim, if they want to visit kevarim let them.
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Sep 06, 2009 at 01:58 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ blah blah blah. so she went to the gravesite.. she is not the most perfect person.. I know I am not to good and I go to krevers for help. everyone is allowed to pray no one sees wats in her soul. how can anyone judge her. the high hoildays are coming up and I am happy none of u (above posters) are not judging me. everyone has a spark in them.. don't b so fast to judge.. so her style in life is different.. she's not sitting in brklyn telling u to look at her or listen to her.. ”
Let me try to spell this out for you. The woman is a whore. She sells her body for money and it's mazal she couldn't take the cold water of the Ari's mikvah or she would be selling a video of herself toiveling while sing a "kabalistic" tune. True, No one sees her soul, but she tries to make sure everyone sees her body. Which part of that didn't you understand.
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Sep 06, 2009 at 08:11 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
You frum ppl are so full of hate, its no wonder the frei hate the chareidim. I am frum but dont care if she or any other goy visits EY she is a goy she is allowed to sing whatever she wants. Plenty of jewish israeli singers are worse than her in the matter of pritzus.
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Sep 06, 2009 at 08:24 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ You frum ppl are so full of hate, its no wonder the frei hate the chareidim. I am frum but dont care if she or any other goy visits EY she is a goy she is allowed to sing whatever she wants. Plenty of jewish israeli singers are worse than her in the matter of pritzus. ”
What difference does it makes, who is spreading the Pritzus, Jew or non-Jew? Pritzus is wrong, period, and especially in the Holy Land. It damages people's souls, and it's a smack at Hashem, in His "front yard."
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Sep 06, 2009 at 08:21 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Why is she “sprading sins all over the world”?
She is not Jewish she can dress and sing they she wants. You are not allowed to watch it. That’s it.
First fix yourself
”
Where did you get this idea from?
The non-Jews are bound by the 7 Noahide laws. I guarantee you that the way she dresses and sings is not according to those laws.
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Sep 06, 2009 at 08:55 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ You frum ppl are so full of hate, its no wonder the frei hate the chareidim. I am frum but dont care if she or any other goy visits EY she is a goy she is allowed to sing whatever she wants. Plenty of jewish israeli singers are worse than her in the matter of pritzus. ”
It's not a matter of hate. How can you call yourself Frum, but you say you don't care what Madonna does? Pritzus (immodesty) is Pritzus, no matter whether it's a Jew or a non-Jew, and Hashem hates immodesty anywhere in the world, but especially in the Holy Land, Hashem's "front porch."
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Sep 06, 2009 at 08:54 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ WHH
Accompanied by her partner "Yushkah" ??? She can go wherever she wants but if she is truly interested in the teachings of the Kabbalah, she would do well to stay away from the Holy Ari with "Yushkah" at the very least. ”
Not Yushka. LOL. Her "partner" is a very much alive Latino whose name is Jesus or "Hesus" in transliteration. Chill out. It's a common Latin American name.
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Sep 06, 2009 at 09:43 AM Simon Says:Report as Inappropriate
I will always have respect and admiration for some one who has respect and admiration for Jews, no matter what thay do.
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Sep 06, 2009 at 01:38 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I don't know how many people are aware of this but, a few years ago she made a music video wearing tefillin. Nuch a kiddush hashem! ”
And BTW she did perform once...with Kabalah lyrics and including an old Yemenite kabalistic tune composed by the famous Yemenite Kabbalist/comoser Rav Shalom Shabazi zt"l ...:" Im Ninalu" (I think it was sung by some Israeli Yemeni )
...Go figure that one!! Some strange things happening these days...The question what satisfaction does she get out of it?....Does this really make her a better person as she claims...?
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Sep 07, 2009 at 12:35 AM wow! Says:Report as Inappropriate
What's really amazing.... is that EVERYONE HERE ACTUALLY KNOWS ALL ABOUT WHO SHE IS!!! Whether its a Kovod, a Shandeh, Acharis Hayomim, or Avi Avos - apparently everyone knows all about this shiktze all too well... maybe this is why Chazal say "Seyog Lachochmo Shesika", and "Mila Be'sela Shtikusa Bi'trei", or in plain English: "better to shut up and look like a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!"
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Sep 07, 2009 at 04:34 PM berel. Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ What's really amazing.... is that EVERYONE HERE ACTUALLY KNOWS ALL ABOUT WHO SHE IS!!! Whether its a Kovod, a Shandeh, Acharis Hayomim, or Avi Avos - apparently everyone knows all about this shiktze all too well... maybe this is why Chazal say "Seyog Lachochmo Shesika", and "Mila Be'sela Shtikusa Bi'trei", or in plain English: "better to shut up and look like a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" ”
#82 es is gornish soiser . how did chachmeinu z'l know about rochov so much, arpah, see mes. soteh and then there werent news papers. by the way , mr seyog lechchma shtika, you seem to be pretty educated about her too otherwise you wouldnt have wondered.
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Sep 09, 2009 at 08:15 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
It is a pleasure to hear how ehrliche yiden speak about someone they don't even know with such passion and love. I am curious, however, where a Ben (or Bas) Torah gets so much knowledge about who Madonna even is, let alone what she does and stands for? I couldn't find a reference to her or her actions in any mishnayis or parsha or anything?
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on how you think other people should live, especially gentiles, since apparently you are such gedolim that you have knowledge of how tzaddikim who have passed from olam hazeh react to things here in this world. I especially appreciate your opinions on whether things are kiddush hashems or chillul hashems, because visits to anywhere in Israel that is open to the public by anyone but our own people is obviously a disgrace (I was unaware), and sinas chinom against people whom we don't know personally is a kiddush hashem, right? I was also unaware of this.
I can only imagine what a huge kiddush hashem it would probably be if the outside world were able to read what we have to say about them and about each other! and so eloquently, grammatically, and with such good spelling!
The only thing that still confuses me is where did all you Lamed Vovniks learn so much about Madonna? There must be some Tnach or Gemara I haven't learned yet, since I wouldn't believe that all the commenters here watch television or read People magazine! Please, tell me where you learned so much about madonna, and Berg and his "Kaballah Institute" as well? Please, I want to be a good Jew like you!
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Dec 18, 2011 at 09:00 PM Tom Botwin Says:Report as Inappropriate
Bad news - Syria's 'mutilation mystery' increases...