“ All kohanim are considered tamai mais so why this procedure? ”

“ I realy think that respect for the dead used to be an international understanding.... I assume leftist shmoks don't even respect the dead anymore.

About driving away tousists I think TAXes in israel should be lowered. that is so far the biggest forced which prevent tourists from making aliya.

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“ All kohanim are considered tamai mais so why this procedure? ”

“ to #8 & #10
you're talking nonsense. I fly 30 times a year & Ben-Gurion airport is one of the best, most organized & beautiful airports in the world.
I guess that you must have been caught smuggling something & feel bitter. Never mind ..... next time stay in America! ”

“ it has nothing to do about the dead it has to do about the living Kohanim.

I am not sure why it make a diffrence if they are renoved right away or after either way it effects Kohanim or not or I am missing something ”

“ The sanctity of The Kohanim our only living link to the avoidah is paramount "Chaim Koolchem Hayoim"! ”

“ The Meis has to be removed from the plane either before the bridge is attached, or after it is detached, to keep the bridge from serving as an Ohel Meis that will pass the Tumah to the entire airport. The airport itself B"H is set up so there will be no problem. However, we are worried about all of the Kohanim in the airport.

FYI according to most Rabbinic opinions a Kohen cannot be on a plane that is carrying a body. Thus it is vital to check with the airline at check in. Hopefully they are honest. ”

“ The simple answer is that if some Kohen is worried about this meshugaas, he can avoid hanging out at the airport and meet his guests at the curb. All airlines, including El Al, carry bodies to EY all the time and Kohanim routinely fly. The bodies somtimes arrive with only 2 hours prior notice after boarding is already starting. It would be impractical to have to interrupt boarding and remove luggage because some Kohen decided to be machmir about flying on an airline with a niftar on board. The mitzvah of kovod hames and having the lavayah in EY takes precedence over the feelings of some kohen. ”

“ The simple answer is that if some Kohen is worried about this meshugaas, he can avoid hanging out at the airport and meet his guests at the curb. All airlines, including El Al, carry bodies to EY all the time and Kohanim routinely fly. The bodies somtimes arrive with only 2 hours prior notice after boarding is already starting. It would be impractical to have to interrupt boarding and remove luggage because some Kohen decided to be machmir about flying on an airline with a niftar on board. The mitzvah of kovod hames and having the lavayah in EY takes precedence over the feelings of some kohen. ”

“ This is not FEELINGS its LAW a Cohan is not allowed to be under a Ohal with a Mass period, for every second he is its an extra Lav ”

“ The simple answer is that if some Kohen is worried about this meshugaas, he can avoid hanging out at the airport and meet his guests at the curb. All airlines, including El Al, carry bodies to EY all the time and Kohanim routinely fly. The bodies somtimes arrive with only 2 hours prior notice after boarding is already starting. It would be impractical to have to interrupt boarding and remove luggage because some Kohen decided to be machmir about flying on an airline with a niftar on board. The mitzvah of kovod hames and having the lavayah in EY takes precedence over the feelings of some kohen. ”

“ Your nonsense is pathetic . First of all MANY Cohanim including myself .do not fly EL AL or those airlines that are known to carry niftarim . No boarding is ever interrrupted because those Cohanim who care ,wont fly on such a flight . In addition ,EL AL knows within 2 to 3 hours prior if there will be a niftar on board and there is a special number in the Cargo supervisors office that can be called to find out . I have once used this in a time of emergency on a Motzei Shabbos when I needed to go to Israel on a moments notice to a funeral . I called cargo and they told me therre was a niftar on one of the flights but not the other so I was able to go . There are paperwork regulations ,so it is impossible to just show up an hour before and put a body on a flight . So if 2 hours prior they say there is nothing ,you can generally rely on it . In sddition ,EL AL used to have one flight a week on a Wednesday ,where they would not take any niftarim ,so as to allow Cohanim to plan in advance and use that flight . I dont know if that is still the case . ”

“ This is not FEELINGS its LAW a Cohan is not allowed to be under a Ohal with a Mass period, for every second he is its an extra Lav ”

“ "This cancer has to be ripped out" Do you realize you are using Nazi terminology? Is this how you speak about jews trying to keep their faith? Your hate is pathetic ”

“ “This is not FEELINGS its LAW a Cohan is not allowed to be under a Ohal with a Mass period, for every second he is its an extra Lav”

So what does your kohen do if he has already boarded the El Al or other airline flight and they load a body at the last minute for a flight to EY....should the kohen run off the airplane and delay 300 passengers while they search for his luggage or should they dump the body on the tarmac and wait for the next flight and hope that there are no kohanim on board. Get real. We should try to minimize the issue for kohanim but we also have to make some pracitical accomodations for reality. Allowing the body on board is necessary, even if some kohanim might not like it. Similarly, letting the passengers disembark after a 12 hour flight is necessary and connecting the jetway does not make the airport part of the plane just because some hareidi rebbe with too much time on his hands says its so. ”

“ Wouldn't it be a simpler solution that the airlines place the body in an accessible area, so that it can be removed right away. But no, go bash religion. ”

“ Obviously in your book we have 613 pain in the necks not mitzvas ”

“ it has nothing to do about the dead it has to do about the living Kohanim.

I am not sure why it make a diffrence if they are renoved right away or after either way it effects Kohanim or not or I am missing something ”

“ Actually, El Al uses specially designed coffins to transport bodies. They are designed in such a way that that the coffin is itself an ohel and thus the Tuma does not spread from the coffin. As with most everything else, not everyone relies on this, but there are those one can rely on to fly El Al w/o checking to see if a body is on board. ”

“ Actually the coffin is the same but ElAl has special boxes that close the coffin leaving a space between the coffin and the roof of the box so that the Tuma is contained. In addition they have designated flights that leave in paralle gauranteeing that one will not have a niftar on it. If one wanted more real information just talk to the Rabbi of the Airport - Rav Elmaliach. ”

“ The meshugaas of twisting the plain intent of the halacha to make it apply where never intended and then "inventing" some "special box" that magically fixes the problem of their own creation is a joke. Kohanim were not supposed to go to cemetaries or funeral homes where bodies were present. Extending the defintion to the airline terminal by way of the jetway is indicative of this shdus. And the guy who makes a fortune selling these "magic boxes" for the coffins to El Al, makes an already obscenely expensive charge for shipping a body to EY even more expensive and some rebbe probably gets his share of the surcharge. ”

“ What do you know about the "plain intent of the halacha"? There is an entire tractate of the Mishnah, called Ohalos, that goes into great detail about cases where tum'ah does or doesn't spread via a roof or other overhanging object. And all of this is codified in the Shulchan Aruch. Have you learned any of these? If you had, you would know very well that this is not some "meshugaas" that someone invented in order to make some money, but a real and living part of Torah. ”

“ Why is it that the rabbonim always seem to find new ways to extend the applicability or scope of halacha in ways which make it more difficult and costly for those who want to be shomrei torah umitzvot to be observant. There are only a finite number of dollars/shekeels available to meet all the desparate needs of klal yisroel for chinuch, housing, kosher food, health care etc. All the time and resources spent on these kind of arcane extensions of halacha simply take those resources from higher priority needs and redirect them here. If you really believe that money should never be a constraint on imposing new chumrahs, than you live in a dream world. ”

“ The simple answer is that if some Kohen is worried about this meshugaas, he can avoid hanging out at the airport and meet his guests at the curb. All airlines, including El Al, carry bodies to EY all the time and Kohanim routinely fly. The bodies somtimes arrive with only 2 hours prior notice after boarding is already starting. It would be impractical to have to interrupt boarding and remove luggage because some Kohen decided to be machmir about flying on an airline with a niftar on board. The mitzvah of kovod hames and having the lavayah in EY takes precedence over the feelings of some kohen. ”

“ When an airplane is stuck on the tarmac in the sun and the air conditioning and ventilation is off, it can be more than just an inconvenience. Those tin cans we fly around in heat up very quickly in the sun. I was once on a plane in the carribean that got stuck on the tarmac for over 1 and 1/2 hours without air or ventilation (nothing to do with a niftar on board). People started passing out and one woman with claustrophobia completely lost it and was screaming and pounding on the doors so hard that she hurt herself. I'm sure the heat and lack of ventilation can be quite dangerous for people with heart problems or other illnesses. There should be a rule that if the cabin temperature gets over a certain amount that you have to let everyone out. To do otherwise, is false imprisonment and potentially very dangerous. At a minimum, people should be warned in advance and at least one flight to Israel from each location each day should be niftar-free so people can choose that flight if they don't want to risk being held prisoner on the plane. ”

“ Why is it that the rabbonim always seem to find new ways to extend the applicability or scope of halacha in ways which make it more difficult and costly for those who want to be shomrei torah umitzvot to be observant. There are only a finite number of dollars/shekeels available to meet all the desparate needs of klal yisroel for chinuch, housing, kosher food, health care etc. All the time and resources spent on these kind of arcane extensions of halacha simply take those resources from higher priority needs and redirect them here. If you really believe that money should never be a constraint on imposing new chumrahs, than you live in a dream world. ”

“ The meshugaas of twisting the plain intent of the halacha to make it apply where never intended and then "inventing" some "special box" that magically fixes the problem of their own creation is a joke. Kohanim were not supposed to go to cemetaries or funeral homes where bodies were present. Extending the defintion to the airline terminal by way of the jetway is indicative of this shdus. And the guy who makes a fortune selling these "magic boxes" for the coffins to El Al, makes an already obscenely expensive charge for shipping a body to EY even more expensive and some rebbe probably gets his share of the surcharge. ”