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Special forcese being air-dropped on to the Chabad House terrace on Nov 28 2008
The court heard a CD of telephone conversations between the terrorists who attacked Mumbai in November 2008 and Israeli officials. So was Israel negotiating or buying time?
The court heard clear evidence that Israeli officials had tried to negotiate for the release of several hostages inside the Jewish Chabad House during the 26/11 attacks.
So almost a year after the November 26, 2008, terrorist attack in Mumbai it was officially established that that the Israeli Embassy officials in Washington DC had initiated negotiations with the terrorists at Nariman House.
In an audio clip of the telephonic conversation played before the special court at the Arthur Road jail in Mumbai, two things were clear. Firstly the Embassy wanted to ensure the safety of captive Jews and secondly the officials were trying to buy time, perhaps to strategise their next move.
Israeli officials contacted the terrorists by the number of one of the Jewish hostage in Hariman House.
The conversation was as follows:
Negotiator: If they are not harmed we can discuss. The Indian ambassador is in contact with the government in Delhi. Give us two hours.
Terrorist: Two hours is too much.
Negotiator: How are they?
Terrorist: They are okay. We have not even slapped anyone yet.
Negotiator: Only condition is you don't kill people. We will call with an update. Does your cell phone have enough battery?
Terrorist: There is no electricity. We can't charge our phones.
Negotiator: Hold. I'll call the ambassador. I can only negotiate if no one is hurt. We'll get back in 10-15 minutes.
The handlers had also dictated a list of close to seven demands that the terrorists were to make while talking to the media.
"Handlers in Pakistan disclosed news to be circulated to the media. Certain hostages at Nariman House had also spoke to the handlers who told them to pursue government to release them," said Special Public Prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam.
The next set of conversation was not very clear as to who the handler was talking to. The hostage or the terrorists?
Handler: Don't tell them how many hostages are there. We will give you a chance to live. Don't give them a hint about number of people inside.
Hostage: Just tell them to end the operation.
Handler: We are negotiating with Israel.
Hostage: When will you leave me.
Handler: As soon as our demands are met. May be tonight... may be in two hours.
Hostage: We are asking them to stop shooting and lets talk.
Handler: We must negotiate. Don't try to be over smart.
Clearly, the negotiations must have reached a dead end since all six Jew hostages were killed including the rabbi and his wife.
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Read Comments (21) — Post Yours »
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Nov 03, 2009 at 01:23 PM rrrrrr Says:
Still gives me the chills. What a sad story
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Nov 03, 2009 at 01:29 PM Anonymous Says:
Rabbi Levi Shemtov could have ended it
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Nov 03, 2009 at 02:09 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Rabbi Levi Shemtov could have ended it ”
don't put the blame on levi when you don't know the details!
levi WAS involved.
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Nov 03, 2009 at 03:20 PM Anonymous Says:
they were all dead by the time this phone call was made
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Nov 03, 2009 at 02:33 PM Babishka Says:
“ Rabbi Levi Shemtov could have ended it ”
You can't say that. The hostages were dead from the time the terrorists entered the building. They had no intentions of leaving anyone alive. The same occurred at the hotels and at the train station. The terrorists' plan was to kill as many people as possible. No one was released through "negotiations."
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Nov 03, 2009 at 03:33 PM Anonymous Says:
There were horribly tortured, mutilated and then killed. This is not as the media sterilized it to be. Hashem should help us.
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Nov 03, 2009 at 02:20 PM Anonymous Says:
The audio sounds so fake...
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Nov 03, 2009 at 03:43 PM Anonymous Says:
“ don't put the blame on levi when you don't know the details!
levi WAS involved. ”
LS was acting like a city cowboy. People were working in NY at the time in MK's office to get them freed, and on his own he called GH's cellphone and stuck himself into a situation he had no business getting involved in. In the end it didn't matter and his sticking his nose where it didn't belong was irrelevant.
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Nov 03, 2009 at 05:44 PM audio Says:
“ The audio sounds so fake... ”
It seems almost certain that the audio is a reenactment, in other words, actors who provided the voices. Most probably for the court proceedings.
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Nov 03, 2009 at 07:12 PM Anonymous Says:
How dare someone who had no opportunity to help so much as contemplate judging one who found himself in the horrific position of possibly being able to save yidishe neshomos but not knowing how!
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Nov 03, 2009 at 09:30 PM Anonymous Says:
The question is not like 10 puts it, but: 1) did Levi Shemtov get clearance from Lubavitch Headquarters to negotiate with terrorists who were holding Jewish lives?, and b) wow did take on such a gargantuan responsibilty on his young, untrained shoulders?
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Nov 03, 2009 at 11:52 PM Anonymous Says:
“ The question is not like 10 puts it, but: 1) did Levi Shemtov get clearance from Lubavitch Headquarters to negotiate with terrorists who were holding Jewish lives?, and b) wow did take on such a gargantuan responsibilty on his young, untrained shoulders? ”
I dont know the ins and outs of who did what and what should have been done but "clearance from Lubavitch Headquarters to negotiate" What training in hostage negotiation does "Lubavitch Headquarters" have? Would the question be more appropriate to be asked with regards to clearance from governmental (be they Israeli, American or Indian) agencies trained in this type of work?
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Nov 03, 2009 at 11:29 PM Anonymous Says:
When this story comes back again in the news , the pain comes back all over again , There's no use of the arguing its like the nazis was a gezara min hashomayim so was this ,but we beg you g-d get us out of this lowly gulos even the gashmiyus is so boring allready we need an infusion of kedusha and in this gulos its so hard to have even a drop of yiras shomayim , do you think staying in gulos longer will make us any better? , we need moshiach now!!
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Nov 03, 2009 at 10:06 PM Miss Williamsburg Says:
“ There were horribly tortured, mutilated and then killed. This is not as the media sterilized it to be. Hashem should help us. ”
How do you know this?
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Nov 03, 2009 at 10:05 PM I'm #8 Says:
“ How dare someone who had no opportunity to help so much as contemplate judging one who found himself in the horrific position of possibly being able to save yidishe neshomos but not knowing how! ”
#11 said my point perfectly. I don't question LS's motives or his heart. I question his head. I have inside info and I can tell you clearly that he stuck himself into a situation that he had no business getting involved. HQ was working with the FBI and State Dept and were trying desperately to do something. If u remember, LS got a posting on all of the chabad websites about needing someone speaking urdu. He was working without consulting anyone at HQ and it was uncalled for.
Again, IMHO his heart and his motives were pure but they were uncalled for.
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Nov 04, 2009 at 07:58 AM sad to say.... Says:
“ Rabbi Levi Shemtov could have ended it ”
how is levi invovled??? and u know what dont blame anyone now it happened unfornately
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Nov 04, 2009 at 11:31 AM Anonymous Says:
This was a botched rescue attempt by the Indians.
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Nov 04, 2009 at 11:54 AM Anonymous Says:
With all respect to LS, I think his flair for grandioseness got the better of him.
He is a Chabad shliach, he therefore needs to get clearance for such an involvement, from Headquarters first and than from the FBI and CIA.
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Nov 04, 2009 at 11:00 AM Anonymous Says:
“ How do you know this?
”
People should not know from this. In India, the press got a hold of photographs and reports from the medical examiner and published them widely. I accidentally saw uncensored images of what happened. I have been trying to get the images out of my head ever since. The level of torture in the case of the Chabad House was so disproportionately savage that I nearly vomited.
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Nov 04, 2009 at 12:37 PM Anonymous Says:
“ How do you know this?
”
You sound like a real WB Yenta.
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Nov 04, 2009 at 09:58 PM Hak nisht kein chaynik Says:
Rabbi Levi Shemtov was told about this by people in the "Headquarters" whatever that means, and was in touch with them the entire time!
He was in touch with authorities in Israel, India, and the US monitoring this.
#11, #15, and #18 - you have no idea what you're speaking about.
At all! Chutzpah you have to question his motives -- what is your motivation???