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Bethel, NY - Chasidic Groups Voter Drive Might Have Had The Reverse Effect

Published on:   Nov 06, 2009 at 08:21 AM
News Source:  Times Herald-Record
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Bethel, NY - A much-ballyhooed registration drive from Hasidic groups in the Town of Bethel might have spurred a surge in absentee ballots, but is not expected to change the outcome of Tuesday's races.

The Sullivan County Board of Elections received 262 absentee ballots to date from Bethel voters, and eight affidavits. Hasidic groups began a voter drive this summer after the town and the United Talmudical Academy, a Hasidic organization based in Brooklyn, went to court over the rapid construction of a shul on Schultz Road.

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There are more absentee ballots than usual from Bethel, but not hugely so. In 2007, the Board of Elections issued 228 absentee ballots and got back 202, said Election Commissioner Faith Kaplan.

A group led by Legislator Dave Sager has challenged 152 new registrations, claiming the seasonal residents do not qualify to vote in town. Most switched this summer from addresses in Brooklyn, and stay in bungalow colonies that are open only in the summer. Sager says his organization will take the challenge to court if necessary.

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 08:47 AM vic Says:

We pay your taxes for all year round. Not just for the 8 weeks that we come up in the summer. No reaon these people can't vote. We are only good for our money.

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 10:09 AM Anonymous Says:

262 and its only rhe beginning, in a land of democracy voters will use their power not to let discrimination and racial profiling dominate, enough is enough.

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 10:04 AM Not just that... Says:

The Hamptons have it worse, with more wealthy summer residents than locals. There was a court case about allowing double-registration, which failed, but affirmed the right of summer residets to choose either of their "homes" to be the domicile for voter registration. See paragraph 23 of the final ruling (you can google form this fragment):

...because appellants have multiple homes, there is doubt as to which home is "that place" for domiciliary purposes. New York has responded to this administrative difficulty in a pragmatic way. New York courts have held that, rather than compel persons in appellants' circumstances to establish to the satisfaction of a registrar of voters or a court that one home or the other is their principal, permanent residence, they can choose between them. See People v. O'Hara, 96 N.Y.2d 378, 385, 729 N.Y.S.2d 396, 754 N.E.2d 155 (2001) ("[A]n individual having two residences may choose one to which she has legitimate, significant and continuing attachments as her residence for purposes of the Election Law.'" (quoting Ferguson v. McNab, 60 N.Y.2d 598, 600, 467 N.Y.S.2d 192, 454 N.E.2d 532 (1983))...

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 09:50 AM Raphael Kaufman Says:

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vic Says:

We pay your taxes for all year round. Not just for the 8 weeks that we come up in the summer. No reaon these people can't vote. We are only good for our money.

Your point is valid as long as the people who registered to vote in Bethel aren't also registered in WB or BP. We joke about "vote early, vote often" but double registration will get your vote discounted in BOTH E.D.s. It's also against the law.

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 09:34 AM Anonymous Says:

Yeah right, you zalis pay taxes. give me a break
what a chilul Hashem

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 09:29 AM formally Says:

Reply to #1  
vic Says:

We pay your taxes for all year round. Not just for the 8 weeks that we come up in the summer. No reaon these people can't vote. We are only good for our money.

not true

bungalows colonies do not pay as a residence so stop it already. If you want they can say every bungalow is a separate residence and then pay taxes at the same rate of everybody else then talk

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 11:38 AM Luke Says:

Election law is election law no matter how many residences you own! You can only have one primary residence, so pick one and live in it 27 weeks a year. Then you can vote. Remember, it is one person, one vote, not twelve houses, twelve votes.

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 11:54 AM shimon Says:

if the sitiation were reversed they would yell anti semitism

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 12:21 PM Use your vote Says:

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Luke Says:

Election law is election law no matter how many residences you own! You can only have one primary residence, so pick one and live in it 27 weeks a year. Then you can vote. Remember, it is one person, one vote, not twelve houses, twelve votes.

There are election laws in America, and this ius the only thing that counts, you can blog and shoot comments as many as you wish, but since the new voters do everything in accordance with USA voting law, they are just doing fine.

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 12:18 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Yeah right, you zalis pay taxes. give me a break
what a chilul Hashem

Hundreds of people own a summer home in town of Bethel (not a bungalow), many own entire properties besides their vacation residence, and yes, even the bungalow colonies pay huge amounts in taxes every year.
And just for your information, not the zalis are the ones running this voting drive, they are very cooperative, but private home and land owners are the ones running it, so you can store away your hate and look at reality.

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 11:57 AM awacs Says:

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Not just that... Says:

The Hamptons have it worse, with more wealthy summer residents than locals. There was a court case about allowing double-registration, which failed, but affirmed the right of summer residets to choose either of their "homes" to be the domicile for voter registration. See paragraph 23 of the final ruling (you can google form this fragment):

...because appellants have multiple homes, there is doubt as to which home is "that place" for domiciliary purposes. New York has responded to this administrative difficulty in a pragmatic way. New York courts have held that, rather than compel persons in appellants' circumstances to establish to the satisfaction of a registrar of voters or a court that one home or the other is their principal, permanent residence, they can choose between them. See People v. O'Hara, 96 N.Y.2d 378, 385, 729 N.Y.S.2d 396, 754 N.E.2d 155 (2001) ("[A]n individual having two residences may choose one to which she has legitimate, significant and continuing attachments as her residence for purposes of the Election Law.'" (quoting Ferguson v. McNab, 60 N.Y.2d 598, 600, 467 N.Y.S.2d 192, 454 N.E.2d 532 (1983))...

I didn't find the case yet, but I'll point out that John O'Hara WENT TO JAIL for vote fraud, b/c the court did not approve of his choice of residence. Apparently, he was the ONLY person ever convicted of this crime. Unknown why he was singled out, but it just so happens that he ran against Charlie Hynes, Brooklyn DA, in a previous election. The moral of the story is obvious.

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 Nov 06, 2009 at 02:53 PM formally Says:

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vic Says:

We pay your taxes for all year round. Not just for the 8 weeks that we come up in the summer. No reaon these people can't vote. We are only good for our money.

so do the people who wanted the bike lane, but in that case you said these in my area. funny the table has turned

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