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Williamsburg, NY - Satmar to Open Subsidized Wedding Hall

Published on: November 16, 2009 04:39 PM
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Williamsburg, NY - The Satmar Rebbe Rabbi Zalman Teitelbaum interrupted his vacation in the Catskills to take part in a mezuzah-posting ceremony last week at Pardes Feige, a wedding hall in Williamsburg designed to lighten the enormous financial load on parents marrying off their children, and tonight local residents will be streaming into the hall for a dinner to benefit the Satmar tzedokoh fund, Tov Vechessed.

Only a small group of askonim and community leaders were invited to the mezuzah-posting event, along with Rav Eliezer Kestenbaum and his family. Rav Kestenbaum, who agreed to the Rebbe’s request to fund the construction costs, is well known for his philanthropic work, including the construction of the Satmar residential buildings in Jerusalem’s Ezras Torah neighborhood and serving as Nossi of Kollel Damesek Eliezer.

The finishing touches are now being put in place at the wedding hall to prepare for the first chassunoh, which is scheduled to take place later this week. The hall is completely booked through Pesach.

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Another subsidized wedding hall, Pardes Tzvi, is under construction at the same site, the enormous Brochoh Simoh building, which houses a girls’ school.

The initiative follows in the footsteps of the Rebbe’s father, the Berech Moshe zt”l, who introduced various takanos to reduce the cost of hosting simchos. At the new halls a complete wedding package including music, entertainment, flowers and photographers will cost less than $10,000.

The move toward less extravagant weddings is also in keeping with the example set by the Rebbe’s brother, HaRav Aharon Teitelbaum of Kiryas Yoel, who instituted wedding guidelines two years ago that are now followed by thousands of Chassidim in New York and other locations around the world.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 04:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Kain Yirbu.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 04:51 PM Mendel Aved Says:

Now that's noble!

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 04:45 PM Anonymous Says:

is it for their chasidim only?

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 04:40 PM punch Says:

finally some positive deeds out of satmar.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 04:55 PM Anonymous Says:

B"H. Nice to see that he is going in the ways of his brother, the other Satmar Rebbe, who already opened many such halls in BP and Williamsburg.

I hope all others will follow these 2 Rebbes, and change all the halls to this format, so that we can all make our weddings in this fashion.

BTW, does anyone know when the hall owned by the baal tzedokek Rabbi Leser, Ateres Shlome, is reopening? This hall also saved many people thousands when making a wedding.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 04:54 PM Anonymous Says:

This is a very constructive solution to the wedding crisis.

Just consider the amount of stress and agmas nefesh (which could lead to much worse health issues) that is avoided or relieved by cutting down on the costs. Especially since the standard does not change. This is not a lunchroom/plasticware solution, it is a beautiful hall with all the amenities!

It seems to work great in Monsey with the new hall. I thought the wall mounted cameras and DJ were fantastic - no photographer with ladder/shlemazel with flash standing in your way!

Can't wait until this comes to BP...

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 05:08 PM Anonymous Says:

$10,000 per wedding is too much. Who needs flowers? Music and entertainment can be done using a CD player and food can be Challah, soda, and sponge cake served on paper plates. Todays girls are spoiled and the parents are intimidated by family and friends. We must stop this madness now before we all go bankrupt due to this stupidity.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 05:02 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
punch Says:

finally some positive deeds out of satmar.

Pretty pathetic statement, Mr Punch. I am not a Satmarer nor a Chossid. Who does more chessed than Satmar? I was in hospital last week for a surgery and it was their organizations that were there for all I needed, including food for me and my family members, and room and bord for a family member to be with me for Shabbos.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 04:57 PM Anonymous Says:

The hall looks nice and not a bad idea. Just an average wedding in Sefardi communities will cost $35,000 easily which can be a lot if you have 6 kids to marry off.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 04:56 PM Anonymous Says:


It's about time, that at least SOME people, have come to the realiziation that making a cheap chassunah is THE way to go. The abnormal spending on such temporary issues as Flowers, Music, Bars etc etc. that lasts for one night is INSANE.

I understand that there are people who can afford it and they have a "right" to do with thier money as they please. The problem though is, that the people that CAN NOT afford it were embarrased to do things on a lesser and more affordable scale. People are in debt for the rest of thier lifes paying back loans which they have taken out in order to make lavish affairs when they absolutely could NOT afford it, just so he can do a shidduch with his child. What a disgrace.

The good news though is, like i said, that the tide is changing b"h. It's way way past its time but never too late. Hopefully less people will get sick from the pressure thay carry with them to repay loans which they can't repay. And even for those who CAN afford it, let's wake up and realize how rediculous it is to throw so much money in the garbage for things that last a couple of hours.

Oif Simchas by inz ale iy"h.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 05:22 PM Kol Hamoisif... Says:

Some one should donate some dresses (gowns) to be included in the price.
That would save another grand ($1000.00) or two.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 05:17 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
Anonymous Says:

$10,000 per wedding is too much. Who needs flowers? Music and entertainment can be done using a CD player and food can be Challah, soda, and sponge cake served on paper plates. Todays girls are spoiled and the parents are intimidated by family and friends. We must stop this madness now before we all go bankrupt due to this stupidity.

This is sarcasm, right?

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 05:28 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

B"H. Nice to see that he is going in the ways of his brother, the other Satmar Rebbe, who already opened many such halls in BP and Williamsburg.

I hope all others will follow these 2 Rebbes, and change all the halls to this format, so that we can all make our weddings in this fashion.

BTW, does anyone know when the hall owned by the baal tzedokek Rabbi Leser, Ateres Shlome, is reopening? This hall also saved many people thousands when making a wedding.

Yup, I was at a wedding there just about a week after it closed...

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 05:28 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:


It's about time, that at least SOME people, have come to the realiziation that making a cheap chassunah is THE way to go. The abnormal spending on such temporary issues as Flowers, Music, Bars etc etc. that lasts for one night is INSANE.

I understand that there are people who can afford it and they have a "right" to do with thier money as they please. The problem though is, that the people that CAN NOT afford it were embarrased to do things on a lesser and more affordable scale. People are in debt for the rest of thier lifes paying back loans which they have taken out in order to make lavish affairs when they absolutely could NOT afford it, just so he can do a shidduch with his child. What a disgrace.

The good news though is, like i said, that the tide is changing b"h. It's way way past its time but never too late. Hopefully less people will get sick from the pressure thay carry with them to repay loans which they can't repay. And even for those who CAN afford it, let's wake up and realize how rediculous it is to throw so much money in the garbage for things that last a couple of hours.

Oif Simchas by inz ale iy"h.

Have you thought about the unemployed Musicians, Caterers, Florists, DJ's, Waiters, Photographers, Shtick-Machers, Singers, Bodchins etc. that this system will create. Is the Misader Kidddushin limited in what he may charge?

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 05:33 PM Anonymous Says:

20 yrs ago satmar had a hall in bp torah vyira open to all great prices. I dont know how it looks today.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 05:13 PM Curious Says:

What about the food? How much does THAT cost (I thought it's the biggest expense)?

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 05:47 PM Anonymous Says:

Wow! this is great! thank you to reb lazer kestenbaum for donating to this worthy cause.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 05:45 PM Anonymous Says:

Now, the Rebbes should take their own advice. We don't need to see the giant tents erected for when the daughter of Grand Rebbe A marries the great talmud chuchum son of Rebbe B.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 05:45 PM mechuten Says:

Reply to #7  
Anonymous Says:

$10,000 per wedding is too much. Who needs flowers? Music and entertainment can be done using a CD player and food can be Challah, soda, and sponge cake served on paper plates. Todays girls are spoiled and the parents are intimidated by family and friends. We must stop this madness now before we all go bankrupt due to this stupidity.

Don't be so nareesh, it a seuda she'll mitzvo u need to have fish, meat and desert. Chala kugel and spunch cake is not a chasuna maybe. Maybe my lunch, be real a wedding is alowed to have a little taam. Not evry thing has to be "abee gemacht"
Thanks the Mechuten

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 06:29 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

is it for their chasidim only?

Do you mean as opposed to the Rebbes? Im sure the Rebbes will have some excuse as to why they cant follow their own takanos, just like the Agudah's takonos.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 06:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Lets get real. Ten thousand dollars is not enough for a chassanah. While most MO and yeshivish weeding affairs cost upwards of $50,000-75,000, even the most frugal chassid cannot be mekayem the mitzvah of mesameach chasan v'kallah on such a pitiful budget.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 07:18 PM Anonymous Says:

not a bad looking hall...

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 06:48 PM Anonymous Says:

They should not allow upgrades to the packages otherwise there will be no standard set.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 07:42 PM OMG Says:

Looks elegant good job

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 07:30 PM dji Says:

great jo reb lazer whatever the rabbe asks him to do or donate he does he is a great chusid kol hakavod

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 07:30 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #21  
Anonymous Says:

Lets get real. Ten thousand dollars is not enough for a chassanah. While most MO and yeshivish weeding affairs cost upwards of $50,000-75,000, even the most frugal chassid cannot be mekayem the mitzvah of mesameach chasan v'kallah on such a pitiful budget.

Thats because he has to spend $1,000 on a shtreimal and $500 on a beketsha.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 07:29 PM do gooder Says:

Reb lezer deserves to get credit where its due, but the truth being told, satmar can muster the money to rebuild this hall without the deep pockets of reb lezer, what we need is reb lezer marrying off ''his'' child there, that will be the biggest step to destigmatize this hall, I know for the poor melamdim it won't be a problem but we need the balbatisha people to show that you can make a chasuna over there and still be balbatish

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 08:41 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

20 yrs ago satmar had a hall in bp torah vyira open to all great prices. I dont know how it looks today.

It's still around, and still nice and relatively inexpensive.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 08:51 PM Anonymous Says:

people spend ten thou for the aufruf alone

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 08:50 PM Eye witness Says:

I was just there, its design and elegance is comparable to any upscale wedding hall.
Kudos to Rabbi Zalmen Teitelbaum the satmar rebbe,and to the philontrop Rabbi Kestenbaum, and to all involved in this major hit.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 08:39 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

is it for their chasidim only?

No, it is open for the public! anybody who is ready to adjust to the rules of the hall can make a chasuna there. In fact they have plenty chasunes booked of non Satmar people.
There are no upgrades available, it's a set package.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 08:17 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #27  
do gooder Says:

Reb lezer deserves to get credit where its due, but the truth being told, satmar can muster the money to rebuild this hall without the deep pockets of reb lezer, what we need is reb lezer marrying off ''his'' child there, that will be the biggest step to destigmatize this hall, I know for the poor melamdim it won't be a problem but we need the balbatisha people to show that you can make a chasuna over there and still be balbatish

I know people that have money & they are making chasunah in this hall in the coming weeks

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 08:09 PM Anonymous Says:

"Thats because he has to spend $1,000 on a shtreimal and $500 on a beketsha"

You can rent a nice shtreiemel and beketsha for a hundred dollars for the evening so I'm not sure what you are talking about

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 07:45 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #23  
Anonymous Says:

They should not allow upgrades to the packages otherwise there will be no standard set.

To the contrary, there should be downgrades for people who can't afford $10,000.00 for a wedding.

35

 Nov 16, 2009 at 09:25 PM gregaaron Says:

Reply to #9  
Anonymous Says:

The hall looks nice and not a bad idea. Just an average wedding in Sefardi communities will cost $35,000 easily which can be a lot if you have 6 kids to marry off.

It can be a lot even if someone only has one kid to marry off, too.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 09:13 PM chusidwb Says:

Reply to #27  
do gooder Says:

Reb lezer deserves to get credit where its due, but the truth being told, satmar can muster the money to rebuild this hall without the deep pockets of reb lezer, what we need is reb lezer marrying off ''his'' child there, that will be the biggest step to destigmatize this hall, I know for the poor melamdim it won't be a problem but we need the balbatisha people to show that you can make a chasuna over there and still be balbatish

Your point is even stronger these days when allot of rich people lost allot of money but they still feel on the level of trump but if someone like lezer k will make their a chasuna it will do allot of good . Let's not take away the chesed mr k did , We applaud you!

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 10:03 PM AuthenticSatmar Says:

The deal is a follows: $8000
You get full meal for 125 couples followed by a full hot-buffet for another 200 people, includes photgrapher, flowers, and music.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to # 27 - Reb Lazer married off all his married children in V'Yoel Moshe on Bedford Avenue which is not half as nice as the new hall. I wouldn't be surprised if he marries off his youngest child in the new hall. He is a perfect example of a well to do person who does not waste his money on "Gashmious Narishkitin". Gantz Klal Yisroel can learn from him.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 09:43 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #33  
Anonymous Says:

"Thats because he has to spend $1,000 on a shtreimal and $500 on a beketsha"

You can rent a nice shtreiemel and beketsha for a hundred dollars for the evening so I'm not sure what you are talking about

Goyim rent tuxedos for their wedding. No self-respecting chassidim (except perhaps for Belz and Vishnitz) owuld "rent" a shtreimal and behesha for their own chassanah. That not the minhag for Satmar and most other chassidus.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM Anonymous Says:

If Bloomberg ran the show there would be no expense at all for anyone making a chasunah because everyone working from the chef down would be volunteering.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 11:05 PM mp Says:

Reply to #26  
Anonymous Says:

Thats because he has to spend $1,000 on a shtreimal and $500 on a beketsha.

in the long run a shtreimal is cheaper it lasts 20 year or so how long does a hat last?

42

 Nov 16, 2009 at 11:23 PM Anonymous Says:

3 Sheva Brachos including Shabos cost me over $30,000. Without Mezamrim, which would have cost even more.....
That is not counting the wedding......
In Monsey, in Viznitz weddings have been reasonable for years, much less than $10,000, no flowers, one man band, and no extras.
In Williamsburg it was always very cheap in Bracha Sima, it was just run down and not "fitting" enough for an elegant affair. There was always Bais Rochel, cheap and delicious, and VYoel Moshe has been around for a long while.
When people will start making simchas according to their means, and not their neighbors' means, then no one will have to go bankrupt.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 06:20 AM caterer Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

Goyim rent tuxedos for their wedding. No self-respecting chassidim (except perhaps for Belz and Vishnitz) owuld "rent" a shtreimal and behesha for their own chassanah. That not the minhag for Satmar and most other chassidus.

Not true! I have been involved with Belz and Viznitz weddings (and many others) for over 25 years and I have never seen a rented shtreimel or bekisher. In over 75% of the weddings the only thing rented is the wedding dress and occassionally the mothers' and bridesmaids' dresses and those usually from a gemach. BTW Satmer has a wonderful gemach especially for this purpose.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 06:53 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #21  
Anonymous Says:

Lets get real. Ten thousand dollars is not enough for a chassanah. While most MO and yeshivish weeding affairs cost upwards of $50,000-75,000, even the most frugal chassid cannot be mekayem the mitzvah of mesameach chasan v'kallah on such a pitiful budget.

better spend this huge amount of money on real things to build the newlyweds future such as housing, furnitures, car...

45

 Nov 17, 2009 at 04:14 AM shaindee Says:

Reply to #16  
Curious Says:

What about the food? How much does THAT cost (I thought it's the biggest expense)?

is there a suite at the hall for the chosen and kallah so that they dont have to pay for a hotel room ? Now that's a brilliant idea.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 02:31 AM Garet Benson Says:

Reply to #42  
Anonymous Says:

3 Sheva Brachos including Shabos cost me over $30,000. Without Mezamrim, which would have cost even more.....
That is not counting the wedding......
In Monsey, in Viznitz weddings have been reasonable for years, much less than $10,000, no flowers, one man band, and no extras.
In Williamsburg it was always very cheap in Bracha Sima, it was just run down and not "fitting" enough for an elegant affair. There was always Bais Rochel, cheap and delicious, and VYoel Moshe has been around for a long while.
When people will start making simchas according to their means, and not their neighbors' means, then no one will have to go bankrupt.

"When people will start making simchas according to their means, and not their neighbors' means, then no one will have to go bankrupt."

Baruch shekivanto. That's just what Rav Lefkowitz shlita said five or six years ago. He said when he was growing up it wasn't like that, but for some reason nowadays people feel compelled to make a simchoh they can't afford. The question is why, and we should probably do cheshbon nefesh to figure out the answer. I'm sure part of it is chitzonius.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 12:50 AM Anonymous Says:

Rev Lazer has a kallah in his house now, the plan is that he'll make the wedding in this hall, the men in 1 hall, and the women in the other one,
BTW, reply to #3; to make a wedding in this hall you don't have to be a member in Satmar, there's only one exception; someone who carries with the Eirev in williamsburg cannot rent out the hall,

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 12:32 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
Kol Hamoisif... Says:

Some one should donate some dresses (gowns) to be included in the price.
That would save another grand ($1000.00) or two.

maybe someone should donate a few batchonim while your at it . whats a wedding with out a badchon?

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 12:30 AM not satmar chusid Says:

Reply to #4  
punch Says:

finally some positive deeds out of satmar.

You say finaly some possitive deeds out of Satmar? How many Bikur Cholims, chesed orgs & numerous help orgs have been found first by satmar. Every bucher who ever goes collecting for tzedukah knows that in Satmar you always use to make more. Every Meshulach from EY knows to get the money from satmar.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 12:22 AM Rebbeleh without a kloiz Says:

Reply to #26  
Anonymous Says:

Thats because he has to spend $1,000 on a shtreimal and $500 on a beketsha.

My zeideneh bekeshehs with samet didn't cost near $500. You can get a nice bekesheh for $100-$200.

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 11:41 PM Anonymous Says:

it's very good & nice .. but how come in the other halls like V'yoiel Moishe & Ateres Avrum in willi. and Bais Ruchel in K.J. & Ateres Chaye & torah veyirah in B.P. which all belongs to Satmar org. the prices are stiil sky high with minmum of 185 - 225 couple why ? make all halls which were build by donations for the purpose to be cheap ... why rob your own people ? do the same as (Bruche Sime) new Ateres Fiege & you'll be praised by the whole world & especialy in heaven

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 10:42 PM Anonymous Says:

What does the $10,000 cover?

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 10:39 PM Anonymous Says:

this hall looks a lot nicer than any of the other local heimishe halls that i have seen so far! Tizku Limitzvos!

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 Nov 16, 2009 at 10:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #31  
Anonymous Says:

No, it is open for the public! anybody who is ready to adjust to the rules of the hall can make a chasuna there. In fact they have plenty chasunes booked of non Satmar people.
There are no upgrades available, it's a set package.

What are the Rules to this hall??

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 07:50 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
Kol Hamoisif... Says:

Some one should donate some dresses (gowns) to be included in the price.
That would save another grand ($1000.00) or two.

they do have a g'mach in williamsburg for gowns at no charge (gottlieb opened that g'mach about 13 years ago)

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 09:22 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
Kol Hamoisif... Says:

Some one should donate some dresses (gowns) to be included in the price.
That would save another grand ($1000.00) or two.

There are gemachim for dresses. Nobody asks you to spend so much money if you can't.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 09:21 AM Hibble Says:

HaRav Shloimie Rosenbaum of Tzfas, Shlita, instituted such takanos many years ago among his talmidim. Baruch Hashem the community benefited from them. He is truly a gadol and one of the lamed vav. His wife even has a wedding cake gemach, where she bakes the cakes herself for the chosson and kalla. They should both live and be well.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 09:20 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
Anonymous Says:

$10,000 per wedding is too much. Who needs flowers? Music and entertainment can be done using a CD player and food can be Challah, soda, and sponge cake served on paper plates. Todays girls are spoiled and the parents are intimidated by family and friends. We must stop this madness now before we all go bankrupt due to this stupidity.

Why don't you dress your kids in rags. Just take a piece of fabric and wrap them around like the Middle Easterners. You'll save yourself a lot of money. Why are you standing around go ahead and do it? Why are you so intimidated by your kids?

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 10:09 AM Anonymous Says:

B"H that someone is taking steps to stop the madness. There is no reason for people to be pushed into debt just to marry off a child. I aplaud Satmar & especially Reb Lazar, he is always available to step forward and be an example to the rest of the us. May we all be Zoche to follow in Reb Lazar's unselfish ways.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 10:15 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #21  
Anonymous Says:

Lets get real. Ten thousand dollars is not enough for a chassanah. While most MO and yeshivish weeding affairs cost upwards of $50,000-75,000, even the most frugal chassid cannot be mekayem the mitzvah of mesameach chasan v'kallah on such a pitiful budget.

Dear sir you must get real, what planet do you live on? Most people don't earn 50 or 75k a year and you say that is the only way to be mesameach. You are a MORON!

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 10:14 AM Zev Says:

It is nice to see after Reb aron has been fighting for this for two years and built two such halls in kiryas yoel and got rose castle in williamsburg to join and built the hillman plaza hall in bp that R' Zalmen is finally joining him it took a while but he changed his mind

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 10:44 AM Anonymous Says:

It's an unbelievable deed of goodness and kindness, although all expenses involved in marrying a child may see a break, the worst feeling is spilling thousands of dollars for "just "5 hours'' on the wedding night! how absurd to pay $20,000-$50,000 for just a few hours, ridiculous.
Furniture (that may also see a drastic cut) will eventually stay with the couple for years to come, jewelry they will wear for years to come, but just for a few hours? non sense.
we should all demand from our kehillos to provide such amenities and services like the satmer's did.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 10:40 AM Credit due Says:

Sameach tesamach simcha halls in williamsburg were the first ''pioneer" cheap halls for smaller simchos by Satmar (Reb Zalmen), now many are copying it, in Williamsburg there's now also menicha vesimchu, and the hillman plaza in BP just tried to copy the idea, it's just quite more expensive than sameach halls.
When the news broke almost a year ago about this new "Pardes" halls, one older hall in Williamsburg (privately owned, once the most expensive hall in the area), that was very slow, almost empty every night (since the opening of his competitions Ateres Avraham and Ateres chaya) and is privately owned, decided to take a "lift" on that "Pardes idea", and also dropped his prices drastically, in order to pick up some business, but his prices are $5,000 more than Pardes, and upgrades are available.
In any case, everyone doing something positive deserves credit, may it be pardes or rose castle, kudos to all of them.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 10:28 AM Young Israel / MO Says:

Reply to #4  
punch Says:

finally some positive deeds out of satmar.

I hate to sound argumentative, but to bash Satmar shows your ignorance.
I may be just "Young Israel" MO, but I can tell you that there IS no greater group of Jews helping other Jews than Satmar

Anyone who has had to visit a hospital has seen their tremendous chesed. Also their feeding of the poor is unparalleled anywhere.

And, NO, they don't care if you are chossid or not, frum or not. A Jew who needs help will get help from Satmar. Try them.

Many of us resent Satmar and look to find fault with them, like maybe a misbehaving Satmar chossid. Why do we love to do that? Why do we love to find fault with Satmar? Because, deep down, though most of us will never admit it, we know THEY are the ones doing Judaism right. They are the ones not compromising the ways of our grandparents, and keeping Judaism the way it should be

We all kind of know that it is Satmar, who are preserving Judaism, so even as we mess it up, and dilute it, with all our logical justifications, they will make sure it is there for our grandchildren
We know we should be like them So we resent them for it

So, I have come to realize these resentments, and will say: SATMAR ROCKS
Thank you Satmar

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM L"V Says:

I think the best way to save money on these wedding is to have group weddings. I mean let's be honest, all the chassidim look the same so nobody will be the wiser.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM to-Hibble Says:

I have heard of the great Rav Shloime Rosenbaum and his takanos in Tzfas. Among the more common money saving ideas, he also instituted several unique ones such as:
1. Only using pita for the shawarma and not the larger and more expensive aish tanor.
2. Having only the husbands get dessert since the wives just complain later that they didn't need the calories and shouldn't have eaten it anyway.
3. Making soup mandatory since it fills up guests so they eat less of the more expensive main course.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 11:19 AM Anony Miss Says:

Are the women upstairs? I couldn't tell form the pictures if the hall is split like that.

I certainly hope not.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #53  
Anonymous Says:

this hall looks a lot nicer than any of the other local heimishe halls that i have seen so far! Tizku Limitzvos!

This hall is way nicer!!!! I haven't come across a local hall (williamsburg, bp...) as elegant and beautiful as this one!
Great job to all those involved! You proved yourself, and worked hard. The proof is in the pudding!

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 11:45 AM Ben Says:

Kol Hakavod Satmer, Reb Aharon who started it and Reb Zalmen who follows it may they all be blessed from Heaven

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 12:58 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #45  
shaindee Says:

is there a suite at the hall for the chosen and kallah so that they dont have to pay for a hotel room ? Now that's a brilliant idea.

sorry that's off the mark! we are talking about people that don't go to hotels.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #31  
Anonymous Says:

No, it is open for the public! anybody who is ready to adjust to the rules of the hall can make a chasuna there. In fact they have plenty chasunes booked of non Satmar people.
There are no upgrades available, it's a set package.

Should be dates available as well- Chassidim usually do not make chasunahs at the end of the month- open for the litwiks!

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 12:01 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #64  
Young Israel / MO Says:

I hate to sound argumentative, but to bash Satmar shows your ignorance.
I may be just "Young Israel" MO, but I can tell you that there IS no greater group of Jews helping other Jews than Satmar

Anyone who has had to visit a hospital has seen their tremendous chesed. Also their feeding of the poor is unparalleled anywhere.

And, NO, they don't care if you are chossid or not, frum or not. A Jew who needs help will get help from Satmar. Try them.

Many of us resent Satmar and look to find fault with them, like maybe a misbehaving Satmar chossid. Why do we love to do that? Why do we love to find fault with Satmar? Because, deep down, though most of us will never admit it, we know THEY are the ones doing Judaism right. They are the ones not compromising the ways of our grandparents, and keeping Judaism the way it should be

We all kind of know that it is Satmar, who are preserving Judaism, so even as we mess it up, and dilute it, with all our logical justifications, they will make sure it is there for our grandchildren
We know we should be like them So we resent them for it

So, I have come to realize these resentments, and will say: SATMAR ROCKS
Thank you Satmar

i guess his point was directed to VIN who recently reported many news about the fighting in satmar, so it's happy to hear something positive

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 11:59 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #66  
to-Hibble Says:

I have heard of the great Rav Shloime Rosenbaum and his takanos in Tzfas. Among the more common money saving ideas, he also instituted several unique ones such as:
1. Only using pita for the shawarma and not the larger and more expensive aish tanor.
2. Having only the husbands get dessert since the wives just complain later that they didn't need the calories and shouldn't have eaten it anyway.
3. Making soup mandatory since it fills up guests so they eat less of the more expensive main course.

Rav Shloime Rosenbaum also has family in Har Nof and Kiryas Sefer, and they carry on his minhagim, especially among the poorer kollel families in those places. May they continue to spread their special family name among all of clal Yisroel, omein, kain y'hee ratzoin.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM Charlie Hall Says:

Reply to #21  
Anonymous Says:

Lets get real. Ten thousand dollars is not enough for a chassanah. While most MO and yeshivish weeding affairs cost upwards of $50,000-75,000, even the most frugal chassid cannot be mekayem the mitzvah of mesameach chasan v'kallah on such a pitiful budget.

My wife and I are MO and our wedding cost just over $10,000. I bought a new suit (no tux); she found a nice inexpensive modest white dress (which she donated to a gemach after the wedding). The wedding itself was in the beit knesset at her synagogue, and the reception, with food for 140 guests, was in the social hall downstairs. We had a nice five piece klezmer band, and a local photographer but no video. We would not change a thing. And after almost five years we are still happily married.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 01:23 PM Yeshivish Says:

what is the address to this hall and is it being limited only to chasidishe?

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM Charlie Hall Says:

Reply to #64  
Young Israel / MO Says:

I hate to sound argumentative, but to bash Satmar shows your ignorance.
I may be just "Young Israel" MO, but I can tell you that there IS no greater group of Jews helping other Jews than Satmar

Anyone who has had to visit a hospital has seen their tremendous chesed. Also their feeding of the poor is unparalleled anywhere.

And, NO, they don't care if you are chossid or not, frum or not. A Jew who needs help will get help from Satmar. Try them.

Many of us resent Satmar and look to find fault with them, like maybe a misbehaving Satmar chossid. Why do we love to do that? Why do we love to find fault with Satmar? Because, deep down, though most of us will never admit it, we know THEY are the ones doing Judaism right. They are the ones not compromising the ways of our grandparents, and keeping Judaism the way it should be

We all kind of know that it is Satmar, who are preserving Judaism, so even as we mess it up, and dilute it, with all our logical justifications, they will make sure it is there for our grandchildren
We know we should be like them So we resent them for it

So, I have come to realize these resentments, and will say: SATMAR ROCKS
Thank you Satmar

I also am unapologetically modern orthodox, and a bit to the left at that. I am also a supporter of Religious Zionism; I belong to both an OU shul and a YI shul. But I have never heard any Satmar chesed organization every querying anyone about their hashkafah or their level of observance. And that is the way it should be. Thank you, Satmar.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM Charlie Hall Says:

Reply to #19  
mechuten Says:

Don't be so nareesh, it a seuda she'll mitzvo u need to have fish, meat and desert. Chala kugel and spunch cake is not a chasuna maybe. Maybe my lunch, be real a wedding is alowed to have a little taam. Not evry thing has to be "abee gemacht"
Thanks the Mechuten

Meat is not required for a seuda mitzvah. I can't remember the last time the seuda after a brit milah I attended wasn't a dairy meal.

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #67  
Anony Miss Says:

Are the women upstairs? I couldn't tell form the pictures if the hall is split like that.

I certainly hope not.

nope... the upstairs is just a part of the arcitectural design!

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 Nov 17, 2009 at 02:39 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #16  
Curious Says:

What about the food? How much does THAT cost (I thought it's the biggest expense)?

Food is included in the 10K!!

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 Dec 30, 2009 at 11:24 AM disagreeing Says:

Reply to #7  
Anonymous Says:

$10,000 per wedding is too much. Who needs flowers? Music and entertainment can be done using a CD player and food can be Challah, soda, and sponge cake served on paper plates. Todays girls are spoiled and the parents are intimidated by family and friends. We must stop this madness now before we all go bankrupt due to this stupidity.

First of all, there is such a concept of being Mesamiach the Kallah, and flowers really do enhance a simcha! If the hall buys artificial flowers that they reuse by every wedding, I dont call it spoiling the girls at all, it's a very nice & practical idea. about serving sponge cake for the meal- I'm surprised you never knew that eating a full meal at a wedding is called a "Seudos Mitzvah" & not just another pleasurable feast.
And last but not least about the paper dishes, in the olden days even though they hosted a Wedding in the Shul & were'nt spoiled at all, I could promise you they didnt use paperdishes and btw- it comes out much more expensive to restock the disposable dishes for every occassion. So please dont call the girls ready to get married for only $10,000 (a bargain in today's economy!) spoiled kallahs of our days!
I don't consider having a nice & affordable Wedding to be stupidity at all!!!

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 Feb 09, 2010 at 01:43 PM Anonymous Says:

Could someone please give the contact information for the new Satmar Wedding Halls?
For my family, who are not wealthy and wishing to still make a wedding that will make the Kallah feel happy and not like a "nebach", it would be the answer to many prayers.
Thank you Kehillas Satmar for the outstanding chesed in so many areas

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 Feb 03, 2011 at 05:56 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #81  
Anonymous Says:

Could someone please give the contact information for the new Satmar Wedding Halls?
For my family, who are not wealthy and wishing to still make a wedding that will make the Kallah feel happy and not like a "nebach", it would be the answer to many prayers.
Thank you Kehillas Satmar for the outstanding chesed in so many areas

#82
contact information
United Talmudical Academy Torah V'yirah Rabbinical, Inc. 82 Lee Ave United States. Tel: 7189639260 press 7 for simcha halls and then x4 for "THE PARDES"

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