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But whether from fear or lack of interest, only a few men stood in solidarity beside Forest Road on Friday morning as Rabbi Alter Moshe Goldberger raised a megaphone and began railing against Teitelbaum, the spiritual leader of Kiryas Joel's majority faction.
For nearly three weeks, a group calling itself the Committee for the Victims in Kiryas Joel had pressed village officials for a permit to protest in front of Teitelbaum's house, saying at first they expected as many as 1,000 participants.
Unused to such requests, the village initially provided a building application form, then created a six-page permit application that demanded such details as the loudspeaker wattage, the expected decibel level and a "survey by licensed engineer or surveyor of the premises upon which the mass gathering is to be conducted."
Result: No permit was issued.
Read the full story at Times Herald Record 
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Nov 21, 2009 at 08:29 PM Trustee Says:
its all about money...............they want more.
i for one had enough
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Nov 21, 2009 at 08:43 PM ubet Says:
I thank Hashem every day that we don't liver in Monroe!
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Nov 21, 2009 at 08:49 PM Anonymous Says:
How much noise and chilul hashem a few individuals can make. What a shonde
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Nov 21, 2009 at 09:23 PM SEA GATE ZAIDY Says:
Whats going on here.
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Nov 21, 2009 at 09:24 PM moshe Says:
to comment #2 why don't you consider the same cilul hashem when they closed down the shul
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Nov 21, 2009 at 08:56 PM Anonymous Says:
its unbelievably that the world jewry can stand so silently when people go to court to close a synegoge especially such a holy place as the Satmarer Rebes old home
can anyone imagine if the neighbors of the lebowitsher Rebbe ztl would go to court to close his home from praying overtheir.
it would be 24 Hours protests aginst that
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Nov 21, 2009 at 09:26 PM if only Says:
“ How much noise and chilul hashem a few individuals can make. What a shonde ”
If only r' aron would stop this David Eckstien from terrorizing others it would be better. Where in the world besides in Germany or taliban country did u hear such thing u have to do what a few want. and if not they will punish you only in Kiryas yoel. A shonda.
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Nov 21, 2009 at 09:52 PM MENDY Says:
Can anyone explain what this is all about?
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Nov 21, 2009 at 09:53 PM Anonymous Says:
“ its all about money...............they want more.
i for one had enough ”
NO! it's not about money at all! It's about respect. No. about disrespect. When your whole attitude is "In your face", and you still expect the other party to pay for your utilities and parking. It's not even about opening another location. If it were done in a normal, respectful way.
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Nov 21, 2009 at 09:58 PM Wonder Says:
I dont understand, the people are still in fear of the aron party, I thought the teror is long over.
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Nov 21, 2009 at 10:00 PM Anonymous Says:
Teitelbaum doesn't seem to care about what is being done by his cronies or else they just ignore him. Either way, what goes on in KJ appears to the rest of the world like the inmates having taken over the asuylum. Why would the heilege rav yoelish, Z'tl and the rebbitzen nave to watch every day the chilul hashem occuring in the town and beis medrash bearing their name.
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Nov 21, 2009 at 10:32 PM MISNAGED Says:
I thought one side lives in Williamsburg and the other in Monroe and they were only fighting over the cemetery. Do children marry into the families on the other side?
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Nov 21, 2009 at 10:35 PM Anonymous Says:
Somebody should bring a link to papers it was filed cong. Ohel feiga against cong. Yetev lev eckstien didn't go to court they went to court and they lost had they won they would've done the same to the main cong. And cut off the a/c units will of you cry the same how one jew can do this to another jew or evreyone will understand. Take it into your head they went to court and they "lost" now let them eat it
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Nov 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM Anonymous Says:
sheloi usani goy!
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Nov 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM Anonymous Says:
“ to comment #2 why don't you consider the same cilul hashem when they closed down the shul ”
You are both right the whole KJ is one big chillul hashem
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Nov 21, 2009 at 10:57 PM Anonymous Says:
When there is so much sorrow, illness, kids at risk, parnosah problems, why don't we, the chosen nation, set an example of brotherhood and peace. HOW DO WE EXPECT THE GENTILES AND NON FRUM AND ASSIILATED JEWS TO L00K AT US , SUPPOSEDLY RELIGIOUS JEWS THEY CAN ONLY LOOK DOWN AT SUCH WILD AND DISRESPECTFUL BEHAVIOR) Isn't time to stop with the unnecessary strife and start getting along so that we can once again be in Yerushalayim and not have to be scattered on all corners of the earth. Stop and think for a moment. What lessons are you men teaching your children? You think they stand a chance of being normal upstanding citizens or jews Not in this life!!!!!!!
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Nov 21, 2009 at 11:09 PM Anonymous Says:
When these people protest in KJ our protest against legitamite issues chillul shabos etc.become a lauhging stock! This is the most depicable thing that is happening in KJ (both factions)!!
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Nov 21, 2009 at 11:13 PM smau Says:
i was thear the made a big chelel hasam btw. is taking the whole thing from "only" 7 crazy ppl
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Nov 21, 2009 at 11:30 PM Anonymous Says:
Since the village didn't issue a permit when it was requested, the official organizers of the protest backed off.
Rabbi Goldberger decided on his own to take a few yungeleit and do a small scale demonstration just to ler his voice being heard.
And it was, it was in the local news and eventually also on VIN.
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Nov 21, 2009 at 11:22 PM Anonymous Says:
“ I thought one side lives in Williamsburg and the other in Monroe and they were only fighting over the cemetery. Do children marry into the families on the other side? ”
If a bochur from Zalman's kehillah, chas vasholom, were to marry a girl from Aaron's kehillah, the family would be put in charem. Its worse than marrying a goy.
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Nov 21, 2009 at 11:37 PM Anonymous Says:
These people belong to the Rodney party? Is this all they have in Kiryas Joel?
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Nov 21, 2009 at 11:35 PM Anonymous Says:
“ When there is so much sorrow, illness, kids at risk, parnosah problems, why don't we, the chosen nation, set an example of brotherhood and peace. HOW DO WE EXPECT THE GENTILES AND NON FRUM AND ASSIILATED JEWS TO L00K AT US , SUPPOSEDLY RELIGIOUS JEWS THEY CAN ONLY LOOK DOWN AT SUCH WILD AND DISRESPECTFUL BEHAVIOR) Isn't time to stop with the unnecessary strife and start getting along so that we can once again be in Yerushalayim and not have to be scattered on all corners of the earth. Stop and think for a moment. What lessons are you men teaching your children? You think they stand a chance of being normal upstanding citizens or jews Not in this life!!!!!!! ”
im willing to bet that if moshiach showes up tomorrow these outcasts along with ekstein will choose not to go but rather stay with their corrupt chassidis
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Nov 21, 2009 at 11:54 PM 500 Bedford Says:
“ its unbelievably that the world jewry can stand so silently when people go to court to close a synegoge especially such a holy place as the Satmarer Rebes old home
can anyone imagine if the neighbors of the lebowitsher Rebbe ztl would go to court to close his home from praying overtheir.
it would be 24 Hours protests aginst that ”
Did you ever went to see how the shoul on 500 Bedford? How the Satmar take care of it? I think the Rabbi had daven there more then one Minche, its all run down no body take care on that shoul be cause Aron is not involved,
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Nov 22, 2009 at 12:09 AM Anonymous Says:
“ If a bochur from Zalman's kehillah, chas vasholom, were to marry a girl from Aaron's kehillah, the family would be put in charem. Its worse than marrying a goy. ”
You don't know what you are talking about.
#1 this case is not Aron VS Zalman fractions. It is Aron VS Bnei Yoel which is a 3rd fraction.
#2 Satmar is not Bobov or Klausenburg, Visnitz. People to marry each other, altough not as common.
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Nov 22, 2009 at 12:29 AM Anonymous Says:
“ You don't know what you are talking about.
#1 this case is not Aron VS Zalman fractions. It is Aron VS Bnei Yoel which is a 3rd fraction.
#2 Satmar is not Bobov or Klausenburg, Visnitz. People to marry each other, altough not as common. ”
"Satmar is not Bobov or Klausenburg, Visnitz. People marry each other, although not as common.”
The Satmar do not marry Bobov or Vishnitz.....it might have happened once or twice but the chasan/kalah probably left the kehillah and move away. The bnai yoelish don't really constitute a branch of satmar. They are a lunatic fringe group that worship the rebbitzen feiga or some apikorsus like that...
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Nov 22, 2009 at 12:29 AM Anonymous Says:
“ You don't know what you are talking about.
#1 this case is not Aron VS Zalman fractions. It is Aron VS Bnei Yoel which is a 3rd fraction.
#2 Satmar is not Bobov or Klausenburg, Visnitz. People to marry each other, altough not as common. ”
"Satmar is not Bobov or Klausenburg, Visnitz. People marry each other, although not as common.”
The Satmar do not marry Bobov or Vishnitz.....it might have happened once or twice but the chasan/kalah probably left the kehillah and move away. The bnai yoelish don't really constitute a branch of satmar. They are a lunatic fringe group that worship the rebbitzen feiga or some apikorsus like that...
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Nov 22, 2009 at 08:19 AM ely Says:
“ I thank Hashem every day that we don't liver in Monroe! ”
I thank hasham every day that I DO live in Monroe, a very nice and peace place, I was here all day Friday and didn't even know that it was indeed a protest, untill I saw it here on VIN,
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Nov 22, 2009 at 09:28 AM Yekkie Says:
“ I thank hasham every day that I DO live in Monroe, a very nice and peace place, I was here all day Friday and didn't even know that it was indeed a protest, untill I saw it here on VIN, ”
Ely: Since you live there could you explain to all of use not familiar with the situation what's going on up there? Maclokus shame shamayim?
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Nov 22, 2009 at 09:26 AM Anonymous Says:
“ Since the village didn't issue a permit when it was requested, the official organizers of the protest backed off.
Rabbi Goldberger decided on his own to take a few yungeleit and do a small scale demonstration just to ler his voice being heard.
And it was, it was in the local news and eventually also on VIN. ”
"official organizers of the protest"??? such as???
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Nov 22, 2009 at 01:12 PM Anonymous Says:
“ "Satmar is not Bobov or Klausenburg, Visnitz. People marry each other, although not as common.”
The Satmar do not marry Bobov or Vishnitz.....it might have happened once or twice but the chasan/kalah probably left the kehillah and move away. The bnai yoelish don't really constitute a branch of satmar. They are a lunatic fringe group that worship the rebbitzen feiga or some apikorsus like that... ”
“ "Satmar is not Bobov or Klausenburg, Visnitz. People marry each other, although not as common.”
The Satmar do not marry Bobov or Vishnitz.....it might have happened once or twice but the chasan/kalah probably left the kehillah and move away. The bnai yoelish don't really constitute a branch of satmar. They are a lunatic fringe group that worship the rebbitzen feiga or some apikorsus like that... ”
The whole satmar Aron/Zalmen Leib is apikorsus because they both go to Archuos
(court system) which is a big chillul hashem