Israel – ‘Sanhedrin’: Kill Prisoners if Shalit Doesn’t Return

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    Shalit supportersIsrael – “If Gilad Shalit, Heaven forbid, is executed or not returned in peace, prisoners will be executed immediately,” ruled the court of the reestablished “Sandhedrin” organization, in a ruling published last week on the backdrop of the negotiations to release the captured Israeli soldier.

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    The rabbis even recommended that Israel capture senior Palestinian figures – “including ministers, prime ministers, and anyone associated with the enemy’s leadership” – as part of the effort to bring Gilad home.

    “In order to avoid collapse that would entail, Heaven forbid, another holocaust, the Shalit deal must be blocked even at the cost of his life, while, on the other hand, any effort must be taken to rescue him immediately through using the lives of murderous terrorists we have in our hands as hostages,” explained the rabbis.

    According to the “Sanhedrin,” “These monstrous prisoner release deals, like the Tannenbaum deal and the Kuntar deal in which corpses were returned in exchange for the release of masses of murderers, are road signs on the way to surrender. The central figures promoting these moves are politicians, academics, members of the media, the Peace Now movement, and public relations representatives who receive massive funding from foreign enemy countries for despicable acts of treason.”

    Instead of continuing negotiations and moving towards carrying out the prisoner swap deal, the members of the “Sanhedrin” court recommended that the State wage another war in Gaza during this Hannuka in order “to exterminate Hamas from this world.”

    According to them, “In any case, the State of Israel will not be able to prevent a war unlike any other simultaneously with all its enemies – a result of the process called the ‘peace’ process that is nothing but a surrender process.”

    The rabbinic council, associated with the Right, claimed that the two most significant decisions made recently by the government – the agreement to release hundreds of terrorists in exchange for one captured soldier and the 10-month settlement building moratorium – are acts of treason contrary to the very basis of the existence of a Jewish state in the land of Israel that undermine the physical existence of the Jewish people.

    Because of this, the rabbis called upon the public “to make conclusions and ensure its fate” by recruiting building efforts through the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights without waiting for the decisions of the “surrender government” to be blocked.

    “The ‘Sanhedrin’ intends to organize the Jewish people as a public entity in and of itself, separate from the feeble government. The ‘Sanhedrin’ ask volunteers to contact us in order to make this dream a reality,” declared the rabbis.

    “If the government were loyal to its people, it would be obligated to notify the population residing in the dense areas on the coastal plain to disperse throughout Judea and Samaria, Jerusalem and its vicinity, north of Ramallah and south of Bethlehem, in the Judean Desert, in the vicinity of the mount, along the Jordan Valley in order to prepare for the worst, Heaven forbid – an all-out attack, including an Iranian nuclear attack.”

    On the issue of the West Bank building moratorium, the rabbinical group said, “There were leaders that knew how to stand up to American pressure. Ben Gurion did not give in on the status of Jerusalem and the Negev. Eshkol started the Six-Day War. Begin bombed the Iraqi reactor. All of these examples despite US pressure and eventually resulted in the reinforcement of Israel’s status. The world and the US Congress appreciate winners and strong partners, not necessarily spineless humanists.”

    “The government is helping the enemy expel Israel from its holy land,” the ruling claimed. “To this end, it gives them many resources in land, weapons, water, propaganda, morale, and human resources in vilifying the Jewish people in world opinion. This is hostile, foreign, and treasonous policy against the Jewish people … This policy is aimed at preparing for ethnic cleansing by expelling 400,000 Jews from their land through a civil war and endangering th lives of our people in Israel and the world.”

    The ‘Sanhedrin’ judges concluded, “The State leadership must become religious and develop a perception of war and security fitting of justice and the goals of its people that stem from the uniqueness and special status of the people of Israel. To this end, it must consult with the learned of Israel so that they may show it the path to return, part of which is outlined in this document and other documents written by the ‘Sanhedrin’ leadership on the obligation of the government in times of war.”


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    nebach
    nebach
    14 years ago

    they just need their doses increased

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Are any of these rabbi’s children serving in the idf? its easy to send people to war when you sit in kolel “kvetching the bank.”

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Until now, the lunatics who compose this self-appointed Sanhedrim (including some rabbonim) have been a continuing source of comic entertainment. They have now crossed the line into jeopardizing the security of EY and the lives of IDF soldiers. First, our real gadolim and the rabbinical leaderhsip should disown any relationship with these disturbed individuals. Second, the government should explore ways of shutting them off from the media as a security threat. While anyone has the freedom in EY to say even the most stupidc comments, these are mamash frightening.

    formelly
    formelly
    14 years ago

    I hope these guys do not gain any real power, if they do thousands will or more

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    They sound a bit nutty but likely are on the money.
    fire with fire.

    Misguided to the extreme
    Misguided to the extreme
    14 years ago

    These people should be pitied. They make a mockery of Torah and they have tremendous tremendous gaava. When moshiach comes and we have a Bais Hamikdash we will have a sanhedrin and I guarantee you 1000000000% that not one of these Rabbis will be on that Sanhedrin. They’ll be lucky if they aren’t punished for forming a Sanhedrin before the proper time.

    mentch
    mentch
    14 years ago

    i think they should kill them now

    Ridiculous
    Ridiculous
    14 years ago

    Stam mishegoyim. I would like to know if they even TRY to find actual sources in halocha for these ‘psakim’ or if they just make them up on the basis of their own twisted political views.

    David
    David
    14 years ago

    Once, at the Holocaust Museum in DC, I saw a video of a survivor who told of an experience from the camps. He saw a friend, davening. He asked his friend why he was davening– his friend answered that he was thanking God. The man looked around at the concentration camp in which they were both interned, and asked what it was that his friend was thanking God for? His friend replied: “I am thanking Him that He did not make me like the murderers around me.” I don’t know whether this man survived, but I think he would have been much more fit to serve on the Sanhedrin than a group of men who (chas v’sholom) “rule” (with no authority) that, because others murder, we, too, should be murderers.

    michali
    michali
    14 years ago

    to commentators 1-5. You sound like Hellenists. Baruch Hashem, we finally have leaders who have the guts to voice the truth about the spineless Israeli government. Why are the gedolim and the Nationalist religious rabbonim so silent on this issue? This is an issue of pikuach nefesh!!!!
    Yasher koach on the Sanhedrin, and may Hashem give them the strength to succeed.

    Billy Bob
    Billy Bob
    14 years ago

    Israel should make chummus out of Hamas, aka what russia did to chechnya, problem solved.

    Find The Middle
    Find The Middle
    14 years ago

    I agree that this “Sanhedrin” is a source of comic relief to some and also a source of uplifting to others.

    However, there has to be a middle ground.

    Let’s review the facts, boys and girls:
    1. There is precedent that Hamas does kill its prisoners and does continue to kidnap Israeli soldiers despite Israel’s “Peace” negotiations.
    2. Israel cannot afford to give “back” any land that it won during wars the Arab nations started with it because this would endanger the security of its citizens.

    Therefore, Israel should (in my humble opinion) declare to the world media and to Hamas that it will swap prisoners on a 1:1 basis in accord with the Third Geneva Convention that states:

    “Section II. Release and Repatriation of Prisoners of War at the Close of Hostilities

    Art 118. Prisoners of war shall be released and repatriated without delay after the cessation of active hostilities.”

    This means, boys and girls, that Shalit should have been freed years ago.

    Because everyone knows that Hamas does not abide by the Geneva Conventions, I believe Israel has every right to do what they must to protect their country even if it means taking the advice of this “Sanhedrin.”

    Charlie Hall
    Charlie Hall
    14 years ago

    Can we take seriously a psak halachah by an anonymous group of rabbis? Are we sure they are even rabbis?

    Any “Sanhedrin” should at least include the leading rabbis from all the Orthodox communities in the Land of Israel. I don’t see the names of Rav Elyashiv, Rav Yosef, or Rav Lichtenstein associated with the Sanhedrin’s pronouncements.

    whats happening
    whats happening
    14 years ago

    i dont understand where the Geon Yaakov has gone. These guys are making perfect sense and its the only language in particular the arabs understand. If Israel would act this way there is no doubt shalit will come home and they will never ever take one of ours. This is war with an enemy my friends this isn’t a game with friends. real life and real suffering,

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    I don’t get it. I am very middle of the road and I realize they have a valid point. They obviously have some smart members, they were also right about vaccines.

    Liepa
    Liepa
    14 years ago

    Don’t laugh them off they have a point. Israel, a superpower in the Middle East is being held hostage by Hamas vis a vis Corporal Schalit for over 2 years now. In the general picture Jewish blood has been hefker in 90% of the countries where Jews lived for the last 2 thousand years since churban bayis sheini.
    Sanhedrin have reached a point where they feel that since Moshiach hasn’t come in the last two thousand years, to take matters into their own hands. Whilst I don’t necessarily agree with them I can’t blame them either, two thousand years is way to long.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Hey Guys – they speak das torah – plain and simple.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    I beleive Rabbi Adin Shtainzaltz is part of the sanhedrin.
    I also beleive Rabbi Shtainzaltz can learm more than all the TB and their Rabbis put toghether.
    A little respect.

    5T Resident
    5T Resident
    14 years ago

    Its interesting that this “Sanhedrin” would sanction killing the Arab prisoners when the Gemara b’feirish says that the real Sanhedrin very very rarely ordered that someone be killed. I remember a Gemara in Makkos that said that a Sanhedrin that ordered the execution of one person in 70 years was considered a “murderous” Sanhedrin.

    These guys aren’t the Sanhedrin anyway – just a bunch of guys sitting around someone’s dining room table talking shtus.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Shalit cannot be the determining factor of how to run the our country and government. American interest in Israel is fading. Fights between the religious and secular factions is only the beginning of internal war in our country. There will be allot of bloodshed. The government is unstable. They have no backbone. One minute they build, the next they destroy. All of Israel should unite, demonstrate, violence if necessary, and show their leaders and the US government that we are stupid and vulnerable as the US. They have not learned from 9-11. It will definitely happen again and in much worst condition, with many more casualties. Iran will cause many dead and wounded CHAS VASHOLOM in our home land. It will be to late. The US will blame Israel. Look at Gaza War. Look at Lebanon War. We give in to fast to American and world pressure. We lost our mental strength and will power. And we will loose our wars. The US will do nothing for us. Do what is necessary to survive. Shalit is only one soldier, but we are loosing many more to the terrorists that will be released. It gives terrorists lots of strength. Stop all visitation rights to prisoners. Capture their leaders. Exchange one leader

    Chelmite
    Chelmite
    14 years ago

    Now is a good time to read the commentaries regarding what most people thought about the Chasmonaim during the time
    that the story was unfolding!

    a yid
    a yid
    14 years ago

    Let the temple mound be closed to Arabs until Gilad Shalit is Returned

    habo b'machteres
    habo b'machteres
    14 years ago

    Unfortunately, these animals who have attempted (or have succeeded) to murder many inocent people, have not been killed as they should have been. As halocho says “hashkem l’horgo”, being that the israeli government did not take a strong stance against them – and they are still alive, hammas and the like have reason to capture soldiers like shalit. We are now in a tough position, but once gilad is freed, Israel must learn from it’s past mistakes and let it be known that terrorists who seek death, will get death – and without taking the lives of others. Jewish blood is not cheap, but by the terrorists it will be unless we show them otherwise. Histiry has shown that when Israel was strong and did not cave in to international pressures, it was more respected. May Gilad Shalit be reunited with his family, and may Israel cease to give incentives for terrorists to kidnap Jews.

    Jimmy37
    Jimmy37
    14 years ago

    Regardless how anyone feels about this self-proclaimed Sanhedrin, I believe the whole thing about redeeming captives has been taken to the most ridiculous extremes. How much sense does it make to trade one life for hundreds of murderers that who will continue to kill?