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Netherlands - From an economic and environmental perspective, meat has some problems. Animals consume a great deal of resources in their growth and they release a large amount of methane, a greenhouse gas. There’s also the whole ethical debate: is killing a cute snuggly animal permissible if it tastes really good?
Researchers in the Netherlands may be able to sidestep ethics and solve some of the environmental issues with their latest creation – pork cells cultured in a petri dish.
This artificial meat is grown from myoblasts (special muscle cells which repair damage) incubated in a solution derived from the blood products of animal fetuses. Sounds gruesome, but scientists hope to eventually switch to a synthetic medium for culturing the cells.
Mark Post, the head investigator for the project at Eindhoven University of Technology, believes that the artificial pork could be ready for use in sausage in as little as five years.
We’ve had artificial meat in other forms for almost a decade. Scientists at Touro College in New York worked with NASA to develop an artificial fish fillet for astronauts on long space voyages.
In that experiment, fish muscles were coaxed to grow in a solution after being sliced off of goldfish.
In contrast, the new Dutch work is so promising because the pork grown does not require any animal to be injured during production.
If ultimately successful, the Eindhoven technique may lead to a whole range of artificially grown animal products including seafood, chicken, and beef.
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Dec 09, 2009 at 10:26 PM mcDovid Says:Report as Inappropriate
wouldn't tofu be much easier and cheaper?
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Dec 09, 2009 at 10:40 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
its moshichas time
When moshicha will come will be allowed to eat chazir maybe its this kind
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Dec 09, 2009 at 11:08 PM Jothar Says:Report as Inappropriate
This could revolutionize the kosher meat industry. Take a starter cell group from kelber glatt (beis yosef glatt with churmos of the rema, kosher even according the sephardim and Briskers) cows, grow meat, no shechita issues, no treifa issues, no treibering issues, no gory PETA videos.
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Dec 09, 2009 at 11:16 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Eeew. Here I was hoping it would be parve... (Isn't that what TVP is for?)
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Dec 09, 2009 at 11:21 PM does not make sense Says:Report as Inappropriate
Whether an animal grows in a petri dish or authentic womb, the animal will still need to consume resources to grow.
Probably in ten years scientists will tell us that petri dish grown animals aren't as healthy as naturally grown animals.
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Dec 09, 2009 at 11:57 PM Tina18 Says:Report as Inappropriate
"scientists from touro" - Is that some kind of joke? There are no scientists in Touro. Is this whole article some kind of "purim Shpeal" on chanukah?
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Dec 10, 2009 at 07:23 AM sarah leah Says:Report as Inappropriate
Let me get this straight. They have found a new way to make pork. "Coaxing" - is that like cloning in a nicer suit? And so I can now have cloned goldfish or pork on the menu? (chas v'shalom). It is still animal by-product, no? So even if there isn't schita (or is there?) - isn't still a trayfe base material creating more trayfe? Since I'm not planning on a prolonged trip into outer space in the near future, I'm hoping they will have "artificial gefilte fish". I agree - tofu, tempeh..lots better.
Besides, what will all the health food nuts say? "Oh..great...some more artificial what-ever in the mix". And don't forget the Muslims - those Dutch muslims are just not going to be happy about another way to make edible pig, either - oy.
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Dec 10, 2009 at 07:18 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ "scientists from touro" - Is that some kind of joke? There are no scientists in Touro. Is this whole article some kind of "purim Shpeal" on chanukah? ”
In all colleges and universities professors get grants(public and private) to do experiments. Many times smaller college professors can latch on with experiments or get grants in conjunction with other colleges and they work together. Sometimes they actually do make a breakthrough on their own. BTW I personally know of one touro student (who worked on many experiments while still an undergrad)that helped in a major study on colon cancer.
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Dec 10, 2009 at 06:48 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ "scientists from touro" - Is that some kind of joke? There are no scientists in Touro. Is this whole article some kind of "purim Shpeal" on chanukah? ”
Sorry no, it's not a Purim Shpiel. There's a huge Touro campus in Manhattan, and yes, overthere they ae scientists just like in any University...
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Dec 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
sounds disgusting
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Dec 10, 2009 at 12:40 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Will have an artifical hechsher too? Now can we drink our artificial milk with our artificial meat?
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Dec 10, 2009 at 08:32 AM FVNMS Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ its moshichas time
When moshicha will come will be allowed to eat chazir maybe its this kind ”
FEH! Not one of my many taavos,, ba'avoinoisainee hurabim.
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Dec 10, 2009 at 08:55 AM why Says:Report as Inappropriate
why isisnt it ever min hachai
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Dec 10, 2009 at 03:02 AM Rochel Says:Report as Inappropriate
time for me to go back to vegetarianism....
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Dec 10, 2009 at 04:10 AM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Eeew. Here I was hoping it would be parve... (Isn't that what TVP is for?) ”
It would be parve. Vat-grown meat would have the same halachic status as a fungus: kosher parve. Forget the TVP. We're talking about real meat, chemically identical to the stuff from animals, but not actually from an animal. We've known for years that it was possible, and that it would be developed some day, but this is the first I've heard such a firm prediction of a year in the near future.
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Dec 10, 2009 at 09:15 AM formelly Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Whether an animal grows in a petri dish or authentic womb, the animal will still need to consume resources to grow.
Probably in ten years scientists will tell us that petri dish grown animals aren't as healthy as naturally grown animals. ”
there is no animal they just grow the meat, no live animal is involved
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Dec 10, 2009 at 09:23 AM Zach Kessin Says:Report as Inappropriate
Also don't forget just because they started with a cell from a pig does not mean you could not do the same thing with a cell from a Cow or chicken or any animal you wanted. This idea has been a staple of Science Fiction for years, it not shocking that someone out there is working on it.
I would assume that it would have the halachic status of not being meat any more than stuff made from Tofu or the like. But I am not a rabbi and that is just a guess so CYLOR.
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Dec 10, 2009 at 09:28 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ sounds disgusting ”
If you'd ever see a slaughterhouse in action, you say that's disgusting too.......
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Dec 10, 2009 at 09:43 AM Huh? Says:Report as Inappropriate
"Animals consume a great deal of resources in their growth and they release a large amount of methane, a greenhouse gas. There’s also the whole ethical debate: is killing a cute snuggly animal permissible if it tastes really good? "
Isn't this a contradiction? If animals are so bad for our environment bec. of all of the methane they release.....shouldn't killing them (whether for food or any other purpose) be a good thing?
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Dec 10, 2009 at 10:20 AM formelly Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ "Animals consume a great deal of resources in their growth and they release a large amount of methane, a greenhouse gas. There’s also the whole ethical debate: is killing a cute snuggly animal permissible if it tastes really good? "
Isn't this a contradiction? If animals are so bad for our environment bec. of all of the methane they release.....shouldn't killing them (whether for food or any other purpose) be a good thing? ”
NO
because we are factory farming millions of cows for our consumption
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Dec 10, 2009 at 10:31 AM kashrus pro Says:Report as Inappropriate
doesnt sound any "healthier" and it sure don't sound kosher!!
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Dec 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Haba min hatamei tamei, so artificial pig would be treif. But doing this with beef could be a bonanza.
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Dec 10, 2009 at 11:46 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Wow soon we wil all be able to eat n Mcdonals and KFC
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Dec 10, 2009 at 12:25 PM Carnivore Says:Report as Inappropriate
I am sick of liberals trying to act like humans aren't part of the environment! Animals are meant to be eaten that's why god put them on this earth. People are at the top of the food chain. If we don't consume animals they will over populate.
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Dec 10, 2009 at 01:37 PM David Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ "Animals consume a great deal of resources in their growth and they release a large amount of methane, a greenhouse gas. There’s also the whole ethical debate: is killing a cute snuggly animal permissible if it tastes really good? "
Isn't this a contradiction? If animals are so bad for our environment bec. of all of the methane they release.....shouldn't killing them (whether for food or any other purpose) be a good thing? ”
No, try to read more carefully; you're conflating two arguments. 1) We breed too many animals (hence the methane); and 2) killing is problematic. There is no contradiction.
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Dec 10, 2009 at 01:45 PM Omnivore Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I am sick of liberals trying to act like humans aren't part of the environment! Animals are meant to be eaten that's why god put them on this earth. People are at the top of the food chain. If we don't consume animals they will over populate. ”
Whatever else you can say about liberals, you can't claim that they deny we're part of the environment. If anything, they're a bit pushy about telling us how we are part of the environment. As to your certainty that animals were put on the earth to be eaten, kindly go find yourself a lion or a grizzly bear and try to eat him, so you can figure out first hand who is on top of the food chain. Regarding your ludicrous argument that failing to consume animals will cause them to overpopulate, you should know that the animals we consume are (by and large) the ones we breed. Thus, the only reason that there are so many of them is that we created an overpopulation of them in order to consume them.
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Dec 10, 2009 at 02:49 PM anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
will it be glatt or stam kosher
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Dec 10, 2009 at 03:32 PM Huh? Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ No, try to read more carefully; you're conflating two arguments. 1) We breed too many animals (hence the methane); and 2) killing is problematic. There is no contradiction. ”
You try reading more carefully. The animals are bred for food. Thus, we kill what we breed. First "problem" solved.
You have one remaining issue, that "killing [animals] is problematic"--- which reveals what the actual agenda was all along.
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Dec 10, 2009 at 05:26 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ "scientists from touro" - Is that some kind of joke? There are no scientists in Touro. Is this whole article some kind of "purim Shpeal" on chanukah? ”
You are wrong. There certainly are scientists at Touro.
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Dec 10, 2009 at 10:38 PM A. Nuran Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ will it be glatt or stam kosher ”
It will be stem (cell) kosher :-)
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Dec 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM David Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ You try reading more carefully. The animals are bred for food. Thus, we kill what we breed. First "problem" solved.
You have one remaining issue, that "killing [animals] is problematic"--- which reveals what the actual agenda was all along. ”
No, you still aren't grasping it. Yes, the animals are bred for food. However, we breed so many of them that, between the factory farming which pollutes nearby rivers, and the excess methane being released into the atmosphere, our breeding of so many animals is causing a pollution and health problem (and I'm not even dealing with the issues created by the overuse of corn as cattle feed). So, killing what we breed does not solve any problems at all. And, yes, the question of killing animals (or, in some cases, whether or not the treatment of animals is sufficiently humane) is still an issue, but, as I've shown, hardly the only one. By the way, what's your agenda?