“ Amar's point is.... what? The Supreme Court of Israel has no religious authority, so it cannot pronounce anything "kosher" or "traif." I'm afraid that all Amar and his cronies are looking for here is the freedom to make up the law as they go along without any scrutiny from anyone. Lots and lots of money in the kashrut business, isn't there, Rav Shlomo? ”

“ Did you not read the article at all? Rav Amar's problem is that the courts ARE interfering with halachic matters, by forcing Rabbanim to certify against their judgment. ”

“ >>>>>>>> Israel is a society of laws, and not laws invented by rabbis.
And Judaism, of which kashrus is a part, is a set of laws invented by G-d, not to be regulated by kofrim who know or care nothing about the fine details of the laws. ”

“ Amar's point is.... what? The Supreme Court of Israel has no religious authority, so it cannot pronounce anything "kosher" or "traif." I'm afraid that all Amar and his cronies are looking for here is the freedom to make up the law as they go along without any scrutiny from anyone. Lots and lots of money in the kashrut business, isn't there, Rav Shlomo? ”

“ Why can't they just provide a new kind of kosher certificate which clearly states that "this establishment is deemed kosher as per ordered by such and such a court..." I think it will be very obvious and people won't eat there. ”

“ I read it. In the case in question, the Court ruled that the rabbinate could not use different standards of kashrut for different people. More importantly, they made their decision based on Israel's law, not on halakha. According to the Court: "The Kashrut Law states clearly that only legal deliberations directly related to what makes the food kosher are relevant, not wider concerns unrelated to food preparation." Which is only to say that the kosher laws pertain to food, not to people, and that rabbis cannot run kashrut like Al Capone ran whisky. Amar is demanding that the laws be changed to grant rabbis an absolute right to decide who is worthy to receive kosher certification for reasons completely unrelated to food.
More importantly, independent of this law, any rabbi is free to pasken on any issue. Hower, once the rabbis demand and get a "Kashrut Law" and a Kashrut Agency that is part of the government, they cannot decide that the agency will operate outside the government and be answerable to nobody. Israel is a society of laws, and not laws invented by rabbis. ”

“ Well, that's debatable, but if we assume it to be true, then the real villains in this story are the rabbis who decided that they wanted the Israeli Government to include a Kashrus Agency. They got what they wanted, didn't they? A government agency with secular legal authority bound by secular laws. If Rav Shlomo doesn't like that, maybe he should get out of the government business... ”

“ Why should he? Why should a kashrus agency with legal authority be bound by secular laws? It's bound by the Torah's laws; what's wrong with that? ”

“ Because it's an agency of the Israeli Government. Because the salaries of its employees are paid by Israeli taxpayers, and because the legal authority it exercises is derived, not from the Torah, but from the government. That's the system they chose, and now they're stuck with it. The simple answer for the rabbis here is to get out of the government business and back into the Torah business; then nobody will be able to tell them who should or should not have a heckscher. It works here, doesn't it? ”