Israel - Fur Import Bill Amended to Accomodate Shtreimels |
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Israel - After a stormy session, the Knesset Education Committee approved the first reading of a bill that would prohibit the import, sale and trade of the fur of cats and dogs. The draft legislation was pared down so as not to include a wider ban on the kinds of pelts used in the traditional fur hats (shtreimel) worn by Hassidic Jews on joyous occasions.
A vocal dispute broke out during the committee meeting between Knesset Member Ronit Tirosh (Kadima), who initiated the bill, and MK Menachem Eliezer Mozes (United Torah Judaism) over the extent of the ban.
Tirosh, with the backing of animal welfare groups, sought to ban the import of rabbit fur, all fur imports from the Far East, including China, and personal use of furs due to concerns over cruelty to animals raised for their pelts.
MK Mozes pointed out to the Knesset committee that certain Hassidic sects use rabbit-fur shtreimels and that they would not compromise on their traditional dress.
“I do not oppose the legislation across the board,” MK Mozes said. “All I am asking is that it include reservations and explicit provisions that will permit the Hareidi-religious population that I represent to continue wearing their traditional clothing. We will not alter our traditional dress due to one law or another that forbids it.”
“The Torah forbids cruelty to animals,” representatives of animal rights groups attending the Knesset committee meeting shouted. “Any use of fur should be banned.”
MK Mozes conceded that the Torah forbids cruelty to animals, “and for hundreds of years Judaism has given its legal opinion as to how to avoid cruelty to animals. However, it was the sages who determined the guidelines as to when the prohibition applies and when not.”
The chairman of the Knesset Education Committee, MK Zevulum Orlev (Jewish Home), commented: “As someone who is observant of Torah and its commandments, and as one who is concerned about the environment and the protection of animals, I twice daily mention in my prayers, ‘And I provided grass in your field for your animals, and you will eat and be satisfied.’ The Torah also holds that it is appropriate to first provide for animals and only then for human beings. Nevertheless, among certain groups - Hareidi - there are traditions that their dress include items made of fur and I do not intend to interfere with the traditions of their forefathers. Those furs are not from cats and dogs, and therefore we will, at this stage, only outlaw the use of fur from cats and dogs.”
Also opposed to a widespread fur ban, albeit for economic reasons, was the Agriculture Ministry.
The bill in its current limited formulation passed unanimously, while the committee reserved the right to amend its provisions in the second and third readings.
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Dec 17, 2009 at 08:19 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Since importing leather for shoes has not been banned, why ban fur for shtreimlech? Why did Ronit Tirosh get so hot under the collar? Because, being a good Kadimah member, she was out to get the fur for shtreimlech first and foremost. Imagine! What an achievement! Something worthy of being written on her gravestone.
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Dec 17, 2009 at 08:53 AM Gefilte Fish Says:Report as Inappropriate
So now are all the radical animal before humans groups going to put these dangerous ideas in to law?
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Dec 17, 2009 at 09:33 AM punch Says:Report as Inappropriate
what about fur coats that rabbes wear to keep them nice and warm, is that included as well?
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Dec 17, 2009 at 09:34 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Why not make shtrymlech from synthetic materials? Every time you wear that Shtrymel on the street you are telling the world that you don't care about the thousands of animals being killed for profit, wake up guys.
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Dec 17, 2009 at 09:36 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
what about leather shoes and other items? isn't this is from animals?
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Dec 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
what about cruelty to humens
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Dec 17, 2009 at 10:44 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
who cares? moshe rabbeinu didn't wear a shtreimel.
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Dec 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM reb lazer hakuten Says:Report as Inappropriate
What about your Tefilin. It is totally animal deivative
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Dec 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM Jimmy37 Says:Report as Inappropriate
"The Torah forbids cruelty to animals," What chutzpah! The Torah also states that man can eat animals. So how does the Torah reconcile these two statements? By prescribing exactly how the animal is to be killed. Perhaps these rabbits should be shechted the same way.
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Dec 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM David Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Why not make shtrymlech from synthetic materials? Every time you wear that Shtrymel on the street you are telling the world that you don't care about the thousands of animals being killed for profit, wake up guys. ”
Synthetic is questionable derabanan, and certainly no good d'oraiysa
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Dec 17, 2009 at 02:42 PM curious Says:Report as Inappropriate
its good to read the law will accomodate. like #4 im wondering why more people don't use synthetic? #11 could you explain further
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Dec 17, 2009 at 02:04 PM gubii Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ who cares? moshe rabbeinu didn't wear a shtreimel. ”
neither did he put tefilin on its all man made for buisness like everything else
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Dec 17, 2009 at 02:07 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ "The Torah forbids cruelty to animals," What chutzpah! The Torah also states that man can eat animals. So how does the Torah reconcile these two statements? By prescribing exactly how the animal is to be killed. Perhaps these rabbits should be shechted the same way. ”
except killing a non kosher animal so you can where it on your head is certainly cruel as the laws of shichtah do not apply. I read all the time on this site how we should not do things that copy the goyim but wearing the clothes of 17th cent. central European gentry seems to be fine. What a bunch of hypocrites. how about the idea of not having hana'ah from non kosher animals
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Dec 17, 2009 at 02:35 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Synthetic is questionable derabanan, and certainly no good d'oraiysa ”
What about reFURbished (ha!) streimels? Or a blend of synthetic with real fur? Is it the same as the halacha on diluting wine on Pesach?
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Dec 17, 2009 at 04:25 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ what about leather shoes and other items? isn't this is from animals? ”
leather from cows and pigs that all of the animal gets used. So, are you going to start eating cats and dogs now to support your argument?
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Dec 17, 2009 at 04:18 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Streimels are a 17th century Polish hat.
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Dec 17, 2009 at 04:56 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Synthetic is questionable derabanan, and certainly no good d'oraiysa ”
excuse me,
there is no mizhva to wear a shtemeil, is a tradition or minhig that all
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Dec 17, 2009 at 04:59 PM formelly Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ what about leather shoes and other items? isn't this is from animals? ”
it is the way the rabbits are breed captured and killed do a search and see for yourself how rabbit fur is made, it is really cruel.
so you desecrate a derasa "no cruelty to animals" so you can do a minhig
strange
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Dec 17, 2009 at 06:15 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Im ain fur ain Rebbes. what will they wear to prove their higher status?
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Dec 17, 2009 at 07:42 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Since importing leather for shoes has not been banned, why ban fur for shtreimlech? Why did Ronit Tirosh get so hot under the collar? Because, being a good Kadimah member, she was out to get the fur for shtreimlech first and foremost. Imagine! What an achievement! Something worthy of being written on her gravestone. ”
It would seem obvious why the two are different. Shoe leather is a by product of the killing of an animal. You are not killing the animal for the leather but the food. The rabbits are killed to make shtreimels.
So my frum friend it is not loshon horah when you are speaking of a Kadima member? I don't care what you wear on Shabbat, so long as you can afford it. Still, you might want to think about the difference between food and hats.