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Published on: December 17, 2009 08:39 AM
By: VIN News By Rabbi Yair Hoffman
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New York - Bli Ayin Horah..  Poo, poo, poo.. Red Bendelas.. Not telling how many children one has..Salt over the shoulder.. Lying about a newborn baby’s weight..What do they all have in common?  They purportedly all avoid Ayin Horah – the evil eye.

Today’s Gemorah (Bava Basra 118a) discusses how Yehoshua gave advice to the descendents of Yoseph as to how they can avoid the evil eye due to their large numbers.

The question arises how it could be that someone could affect the future of another person with an evil glance, look or thought.  Isn’t there a careful system of justice that Hashem placed in the world?  How is it that this system of justice is now circumvented through a mere Ayin Horah?
The Chazon Ish zatzal, in fact, poses this question (Likuttim Bava Basra “Lizdahuri”), and answers that certainly everything is in the hands of Heaven. If it was ordained in Heaven that he be damaged it will happen.  If it was not ordained - then he cannot be damaged.  If, however, it was ordained – then it could happen that an Ayin HaRah will be placed upon him.  The Chazon Ish further entertains the possibility that it may not be ordained on Yom Kippur that he will certainly be injured – rather it may be that it is ordained that no miracle will happen to him and that his course will follow a natural course.

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Rav Dovid Kviat zatzal once gave an explanation to a similar idea.  He explained that there are two types of judgements – Midas HaDin and Midas HaRachamim.  Midas HaDin is strict judgement –something we all wish to avoid.  Midas HaRachamim is jdugement with Hashem’s attribute of mercy.  There is also such a thing as an idnah derischa when Hashem is kavyachol - angry at us.  At such a time, He may do something called Hester Panim – a turning away from us.  The Hester Panim, however, is limited by the Midas HaDin.  In other words, during an idna derischa, Hashem may turn away from us in terms of His Midas HaRachamim – but not his Midas HaDin.

There is also a fascinating Ohr HaChaim on the idea of Reuvain’s arguments to the brothers at the sale of Yoseph.  On the verse, VaYatzilaihu miyadam, the Ohr HaChaim explains that man can possibly cause damage that animals would not have been able to do because he is a baal bechirah.  This Ohr HaChaim has perplexed many a Torah scholar.  Perhaps it may be understood to mean that a Baal Bechira can at times cause a Midas HaDin to take effect as opposed to a Midas HaRachamim.

The Michtav MeEliyahu (Volume IV p. 4) gives an alternative to the Chazon Ish – laying the blame on the person who caused the other person to place an Ayin Harah.  He should not have made him jealous.  Doing so caused the punishment of the Ayin Harah.
According to this Michtav MeEliyahu, we are fully accountable for causing others to be jealous.  This is why we should be careful not o purchase too ostentatious cars and houses.

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 09:18 AM Anonymous Says:

My Sister in Law was nifter last week after a five month battle with Lymphoma. She was 35 and lost her baby from the chemotherapy. She was a baalas midos tovos. Her Doctors said that they had never seen such a virulent type of cancer that was totally resistant to three chemos and radiation. They said she should have had a remission for at least some period. Does a Rav know why something like this could occur? It has saddened and shaken the faith of many in my family. HKBH yirachem aleinu.

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 09:22 AM Hamsa, Chamsa Says:

Its intereting to note: the Ben Ish Chai brings in the name of the Chida that saying the word "Chamsa" can ward of Ayin Hora, so it exists and is real

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 09:58 AM Anonymous Says:

The ribono shel olam created the world with midas hadin, and everyone must face the din and its consequence. Midas harachamim is applied to delay judgement as well as the penalty that was sentenced, thereby giving a person time to do teshuva.
A jealous person in effect is saying, why is so and so's lot better than mine? Why is he deserving more? This causes the rebono shel olam to immediately judge the other person, and swiftly carry out the penalty that was determined. The midas harachamim only delays the judgement and the application of the penalty, giving a person time to do teshuva.

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 09:58 AM Anonymous Says:

well written! TY

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM AH Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

My Sister in Law was nifter last week after a five month battle with Lymphoma. She was 35 and lost her baby from the chemotherapy. She was a baalas midos tovos. Her Doctors said that they had never seen such a virulent type of cancer that was totally resistant to three chemos and radiation. They said she should have had a remission for at least some period. Does a Rav know why something like this could occur? It has saddened and shaken the faith of many in my family. HKBH yirachem aleinu.

May Hashem comfort you among the mourners for Zion and Jerusalem!

Is there a local Rav that you can talk to, or who can refer you to one, to help you through this difficult time?

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 10:40 AM Anonymous Says:

Sinas Chinam has been the Jews downfall since our beginning. The amount of hatred Jews have for one another in unbelievable. Unfortunately Jews have shown they are no better than anyone else in this world.

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 10:46 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

My Sister in Law was nifter last week after a five month battle with Lymphoma. She was 35 and lost her baby from the chemotherapy. She was a baalas midos tovos. Her Doctors said that they had never seen such a virulent type of cancer that was totally resistant to three chemos and radiation. They said she should have had a remission for at least some period. Does a Rav know why something like this could occur? It has saddened and shaken the faith of many in my family. HKBH yirachem aleinu.

I'm so sorry to hear of the terrible, terrible tragedy that happened to your Sister-in-Law. No one deserves to have such a horrible thing happen to them and no one knows why such a thing happened. May you know of no more sorrow.

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 11:14 AM shlomo zalman Says:

Unfortunately, the great rabbis are twisting into pretzels in their attempt to explain the nonsense of the supposed evil eye. Their explanations are very creative but have no basis.

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 12:43 PM esther Says:

i heard a vort that why is it called ayin hara-singular when we have 2 eyes? because if you could see the full picture of another person's life,instead of only seeing with one eye,you'd see he also has his peckle and that there really is no reason to be jealous.

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM Yossi Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

My Sister in Law was nifter last week after a five month battle with Lymphoma. She was 35 and lost her baby from the chemotherapy. She was a baalas midos tovos. Her Doctors said that they had never seen such a virulent type of cancer that was totally resistant to three chemos and radiation. They said she should have had a remission for at least some period. Does a Rav know why something like this could occur? It has saddened and shaken the faith of many in my family. HKBH yirachem aleinu.

Maybe try to say the Ani Mamins every morning and knowing the peresh hamilos of it will sure bring back your faith in hakudish borchu and believe that what ever hashem does is only for the GOOD..You are going thru a very hard time with your loss and i and all readers here feel along every other jews pain, so please do consult with your local rebettzen or religious leader...May your sister who is sitting in Gan Eden be a mylitz yoysher for you and your family...

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 12:58 PM Anonymous Says:

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shlomo zalman Says:

Unfortunately, the great rabbis are twisting into pretzels in their attempt to explain the nonsense of the supposed evil eye. Their explanations are very creative but have no basis.

The evil eye? You know the Italians have an evil eye.....the malork. So, the chosen people and chosen religion have superstitions and curses? That would be similiar to the pagens and the witches casting spells, no??

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 01:11 PM Moishe Z Says:

The Mahatal M'Prag, dedicares a whole section in explaining how Ayin Hora works and why it works

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 01:14 PM Carpet man Says:

Rebbitzen Leibowitz A"H told me that Ayin Hara is a weird phenomenon one must
act outwardly that he is concerned for an Ayin Hara yet not believe in it,

I assume that this came from Radin as the Rebbitzens father was Reb Avrohom Trop
ZTVk"L

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 02:13 PM AH Says:

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shlomo zalman Says:

Unfortunately, the great rabbis are twisting into pretzels in their attempt to explain the nonsense of the supposed evil eye. Their explanations are very creative but have no basis.

If this is nonsense, then by extension so is everything else mentioned in the Gemara. So why are you wasting your time reading the articles about the Daf? Aren't there other articles more worthy of your deep thoughts?

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 03:39 PM shlomo zalman Says:

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Anonymous Says:

The evil eye? You know the Italians have an evil eye.....the malork. So, the chosen people and chosen religion have superstitions and curses? That would be similiar to the pagens and the witches casting spells, no??

No, not similar. Identical.

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 04:16 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
Yossi Says:

Maybe try to say the Ani Mamins every morning and knowing the peresh hamilos of it will sure bring back your faith in hakudish borchu and believe that what ever hashem does is only for the GOOD..You are going thru a very hard time with your loss and i and all readers here feel along every other jews pain, so please do consult with your local rebettzen or religious leader...May your sister who is sitting in Gan Eden be a mylitz yoysher for you and your family...

Only for the good? I hope someone never has to give you the same message you are giving others. R'L'.

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 Dec 17, 2009 at 07:43 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
shlomo zalman Says:

Unfortunately, the great rabbis are twisting into pretzels in their attempt to explain the nonsense of the supposed evil eye. Their explanations are very creative but have no basis.

Supposed evil eye? The Gemoro explicity says that there such a phenomenon and gives examples of damage that was done by Ayin Horo.

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 Dec 19, 2009 at 08:16 PM shadchun Says:

Reply to #9  
esther Says:

i heard a vort that why is it called ayin hara-singular when we have 2 eyes? because if you could see the full picture of another person's life,instead of only seeing with one eye,you'd see he also has his peckle and that there really is no reason to be jealous.

xclnt thank you

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 Dec 19, 2009 at 08:35 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

The evil eye? You know the Italians have an evil eye.....the malork. So, the chosen people and chosen religion have superstitions and curses? That would be similiar to the pagens and the witches casting spells, no??

you are correct
it does not mean evil eye- because according to basic dikduk the word ayin is nekayvah and would be ayin haraAH

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 Dec 19, 2009 at 08:48 PM Anonymous Says:

To #1, Anonymous: May you and your family be comforted among the mourners of Zion and Yerushalaim! There are many tzores going on today. May you know of no more sorrow! Let's pray for the Geulah!

Secondly, shouldn't the jealous party be the guilty one here! He/she is the sinner, but yet the one being 'eyed' is punished. In reality, if the person believes and fears the evil eye, then it has some potency; but if the person does not believe and puts one's total faith in Hashem, he/she is immune. I think the Rambam was the one who said that if you just poo poo it off, in other words, don't believe in it, it cannot hurt you. Many of these things learned from the Gemorah are allegorical and one has to understand that it's a way of teaching a moral or a lesson. In reality, only Hashem has power over what happens - we have to try to do our best in the eyes of Hashem, so to speak, and pray that Hashem will protect us; there are things we cannot understand!
But truth is there are jealous people which is, of course, a disgusting trait as well as a sinful trait. We should all try to keep our distance from them; it doesn't matter if one is wealthy or not. They're just jealous people!

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 Dec 19, 2009 at 09:15 PM Anonymous Says:

#1 : I'm not a Rav but I do know something about medicine and statistics. Doctors make their predictions based on averages. Averages are just that - some people respond better, some less well, and sometimes the unexpected happens. Medicine is an art, not a science in the way that physics, for example is a science. Doctors' predictions are just guesses, based on past experience, nothing more.

Only HaKadosh Baruch Hu knows why he decided that it was time for your sister-in-law to be taken away, or why my brother was niftar at three months old from a heart defect. We can only daven for emunah to understand that it is all His will.

You should have a nechamah from your loss. It might help if you were to do something in your sister-in-law's name to help other cancer victims. Perhaps through her illness you will be the cause of help for many other cholim.

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