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Massive health care reform bill, clears final hurdle.Washington - Senate Democrats cleared the last 60-vote hurdle on U.S. President Barack Obama’s healthcare overhaul on Wednesday, virtually ensuring final passage of its version of the biggest health policy changes in four decades.
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For a third straight day, Democrats mustered the 60 party-line votes needed to keep the healthcare bill on track for passage on Thursday over unified Republican opposition.
That will set up potentially tough negotiations to iron out differences with the House of Representatives, which approved its own version on November 7.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 05:08 PM Anonymous Says:
british / canadian / socialized european 'democratic' style health 'care' here we come.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 05:11 PM Anonymous Says:
good news
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Dec 23, 2009 at 05:25 PM DEM Says:
Grate News Keep Up The Good Job
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Dec 23, 2009 at 05:26 PM doc benny Says:
The begining of the end for what was once a great prosperous nation...what a shame...I hope all those that voted in obama realize what they caused...:-(
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Dec 23, 2009 at 05:39 PM Anonymous Says:
can someone compile a list of these Democratic senators who are up for re-election in 2010, so we can vote them out of office. And you might as well do 2011 also so we cleanse the senate of these guys.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 05:42 PM Anonymous Says:
hashem yishmereini, hashem should help then by the end this bill shouldnt pass,
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Dec 23, 2009 at 05:46 PM Anonymous Says:
The first two comments pretty much sum up in short all future comments ;)
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Dec 23, 2009 at 06:41 PM Anonymous Says:
The whole thing is a bluff. You excited people don't know what you are happy about.
You will be paying for your care and getting what the government, to whom you are but a number wants. They will decide if you are sick or not and when to see a doctor or not. But the hotshots who are telling you this is good will go to Mayo Clinic with their foreighn socialists do with your tax money. Before getting excited try getting a copy and reading cover to cover. Listen to talkshow hosts and you'll start thinking differently. Most senators who voted in favor did not even read this bill. The person in Washington claims he has his own insurance so it doesn't matter to him. Yet, he wants to run your life. Wake up and smell the coffee!
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Dec 23, 2009 at 07:23 PM Anonymous Says:
“ The whole thing is a bluff. You excited people don't know what you are happy about.
You will be paying for your care and getting what the government, to whom you are but a number wants. They will decide if you are sick or not and when to see a doctor or not. But the hotshots who are telling you this is good will go to Mayo Clinic with their foreighn socialists do with your tax money. Before getting excited try getting a copy and reading cover to cover. Listen to talkshow hosts and you'll start thinking differently. Most senators who voted in favor did not even read this bill. The person in Washington claims he has his own insurance so it doesn't matter to him. Yet, he wants to run your life. Wake up and smell the coffee! ”
By "talk show hosts" I presume you mean right-wing fear mongers who make lots of money by taking advantage of their paranoid and bitter audiences. Shucks, I missed out on the education.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 07:30 PM ZR Says:
“ british / canadian / socialized european 'democratic' style health 'care' here we come. ”
Keep up the scare tactics. They work on uneducated people, all right.
The US is NOT going to have anywhere near European health care. This bill will not make bigger government. It will make bigger profits for *private* insurance because it requires everyone to buy insurance. The thing that it does do is make it illegal for insurance to deny coverage based on pre-existing illness.
I don't think this is the smartest route. But it’s better than nothing. It’s better than allowing millions of people with no insurance options.
But the Australian system is a million times better than this bill. Over here we have BOTH options public or private.
Best of both worlds!!!!
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Dec 23, 2009 at 07:40 PM ZR Says:
“ british / canadian / socialized european 'democratic' style health 'care' here we come. ”
I don’t see why the US can’t have a system similar to Australia. Australia has the best system in the world, according to my biased opinion.
Here we have BOTH public and private. You get to choose.
Just like there are public schools *and* private schools, and the public schools don’t take away the right of a parent to choose private, why can’t there be both public health AND private health, as it in Australia?
If you can afford private insurance of a few hundred dollars a month, fine. Great. But if you are in lower middle class income bracket and don’t qualify for medicaid, but also can’t afford insurance, why should you miss out on health care altogether?
If its possible to have BOTH public school AND private school, why can’t this principle apply to health care?
In Australia it works. Why can’t it work as well in the US? Why is this an either-or question? You can have BOTH! And it works fine.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 07:49 PM ch Says:
did any senaters ever read the whole bill?
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Dec 23, 2009 at 07:54 PM ZR Says:
“ The whole thing is a bluff. You excited people don't know what you are happy about.
You will be paying for your care and getting what the government, to whom you are but a number wants. They will decide if you are sick or not and when to see a doctor or not. But the hotshots who are telling you this is good will go to Mayo Clinic with their foreighn socialists do with your tax money. Before getting excited try getting a copy and reading cover to cover. Listen to talkshow hosts and you'll start thinking differently. Most senators who voted in favor did not even read this bill. The person in Washington claims he has his own insurance so it doesn't matter to him. Yet, he wants to run your life. Wake up and smell the coffee! ”
If there is country on this earth where there are “boards” who decide if you’re sick or not, it is right in the US of A, buddy.
Every insurance in the US has “boards”, a whole team of staff, whose job it is to deny as many of their loyal customers payment when they get sick. They decide if your really sick. They decide if the treatment the doctor ordered is really necessary. And they will find any excuse to get out of paying. Speak to the millions of bankrupt INSURED Americans who became bankrupt because of medical bills despite having the best insurance. That how they make money; by declining as many claims and possible. They make money when they DON’T treat you.
And then you don’t have a backup plan. You are left on the street to die, as far as they concerned.
So all this talk about “boards” deciding if you merit treatment – they exist, buddy. But not in “socialised” medicine, as the insurance companies’ propaganda want you to believe. The “boards” are alive and well - in *capitalist* medicine.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 07:54 PM Anonymous Says:
“ Keep up the scare tactics. They work on uneducated people, all right.
The US is NOT going to have anywhere near European health care. This bill will not make bigger government. It will make bigger profits for *private* insurance because it requires everyone to buy insurance. The thing that it does do is make it illegal for insurance to deny coverage based on pre-existing illness.
I don't think this is the smartest route. But it’s better than nothing. It’s better than allowing millions of people with no insurance options.
But the Australian system is a million times better than this bill. Over here we have BOTH options public or private.
Best of both worlds!!!!
”
Did you read the bill oh then maybe you know more then us becaus NO one knows whats in it here! not even congress!!! Do us all a favor and stay in Australia....
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Dec 23, 2009 at 07:58 PM Avi Says:
>> Listen to talkshow hosts and you'll start thinking differently.
That is exactly what scares me.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 08:30 PM anonymous Says:
And what do you know? After 1 year in office and with a fawning media, Obama's approval rating is now lower than Bush's was--when Bush left office and had endured 8 years of a hostile media.
The American people are sending a clear message to our elected leaders. The message will not be forgotten come mid-term elections next year.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 09:40 PM Anonymous Says:
“ And what do you know? After 1 year in office and with a fawning media, Obama's approval rating is now lower than Bush's was--when Bush left office and had endured 8 years of a hostile media.
The American people are sending a clear message to our elected leaders. The message will not be forgotten come mid-term elections next year.
”
Yes, Americans don't like what is going on. Here are the latest Research 2000 favorability ratings for President Obama and congress:
PRESIDENT OBAMA 54% favorable 42% unfavorable 4% undecided
PELOSI: 41% favorable 49% unfavorable 10% undecided
REID: 30% favorable 60% unfavorable 10% undecided
McCONNELL: 18% favorable 64% unfavorable 18% undecided
BOEHNER: 16% favorable 64% unfavorable 20% undecided
CONGRESSIONAL DEMS: 38% favorable 56% unfavorable 6% undecided
CONGRESSIONAL GOPS: 16% favorable 69% unfavorable 15% undecided
It is a good thing for the Republicans that there are a lot of gerrymandered districts or they'd be facing a total wipeout next fall.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 10:19 PM Charlie Hall Says:
“ And what do you know? After 1 year in office and with a fawning media, Obama's approval rating is now lower than Bush's was--when Bush left office and had endured 8 years of a hostile media.
The American people are sending a clear message to our elected leaders. The message will not be forgotten come mid-term elections next year.
”
This is not true. Bush's final approval rating in the last Gallup poll of his administration was 34%. Obama's approval rating in the same poll is currently 50%.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 10:33 PM Anonymous Says:
“ And what do you know? After 1 year in office and with a fawning media, Obama's approval rating is now lower than Bush's was--when Bush left office and had endured 8 years of a hostile media.
The American people are sending a clear message to our elected leaders. The message will not be forgotten come mid-term elections next year.
”
What are you smoking? Bush left office with a 29% final aggregate approval rating, the lowest in modern history. Obama's current aggregate approval rating stands at 49.6%, 3.3% below the number of people who voted for him. Considering the horrid economy that he inherited from Mr 29% and the job losses that have followed, I'd say Obama's in great shape politically.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 11:37 PM AMG Says:
What the American public school system does to education in the large American cities this what this health care bill will do to the Quality of health care in th eUSA.
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Dec 24, 2009 at 08:44 AM Anonymous Says:
“ What the American public school system does to education in the large American cities this what this health care bill will do to the Quality of health care in th eUSA. ”
What the American public school system does for education in all American cities is to provide one for people who otherwise would not be able to afford it. Without the public school system, millions of children would get no education whatsoever which would have an enormous impact on the American economy. Most of the best private high schools and colleges are located in Americas biggest cities, so public school has absolutely no impact on their quality or performance. Likewise, 40 million uninsured Americans amounts to a huge drain on the US health care system, now the most costly on planet earth as a result. Subsidizing private health insurance for people who can't afford it will have little to no impact on your private care, in spite of the fear-mongering you are obviously inundated with on a regular basis. You might want to consider changing the channel and start thinking for yourself.
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Dec 23, 2009 at 07:55 PM ZR Says:
“ The whole thing is a bluff. You excited people don't know what you are happy about.
You will be paying for your care and getting what the government, to whom you are but a number wants. They will decide if you are sick or not and when to see a doctor or not. But the hotshots who are telling you this is good will go to Mayo Clinic with their foreighn socialists do with your tax money. Before getting excited try getting a copy and reading cover to cover. Listen to talkshow hosts and you'll start thinking differently. Most senators who voted in favor did not even read this bill. The person in Washington claims he has his own insurance so it doesn't matter to him. Yet, he wants to run your life. Wake up and smell the coffee! ”
I don’t see why the US can’t have a system similar to Australia. Australia has the best system in the world, according to my biased opinion.
Here we have BOTH public and private. You get to choose.
Just like there are public schools *and* private schools, and the public schools don’t take away the right of a parent to choose private, why can’t there be both public health AND private health, as it in Australia?
If you can afford private insurance of a few hundred dollars a month, fine. Great. But if you are in lower middle class income bracket and don’t qualify for medicaid, but also can’t afford insurance, why should you miss out on health care altogether?
If its possible to have BOTH public school AND private school, why can’t this principle apply to health care?
In Australia it works. Why can’t it work as well in the US? Why is this an either-or question? You can have BOTH! And it works fine.
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Dec 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM yanki Says:
Can someone post in very short description what this bill is all about.