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Gaza City - Neturei Karta Celebrates Shabbos in Palestinian Territory

Published on: January 1, 2010 09:36 AM
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Gaza City - A small group of ultra-Orthodox Jews were preparing Friday to celebrate the Jewish Sabbath in Gaza, in an unlikely show of support for Palestinians in the Hamas-run coastal territory.

Bearded and wearing black hats and coats, the four members of a tiny Jewish group vehemently opposed to Israel’s existence were a rare sight in the poverty-stricken enclave.

Members of the Neturei Karta group have expressed support for the Iranian regime and for others who oppose the Jewish state, which they believe was established in violation of Jewish law. They made a similar visit to Gaza last year.

“It’s crucial that the people of Gaza understand the terrible tragedy here is not in the name of Judaism,” said one of the men, Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss of New York City, as the four prepared to observe the Sabbath at a Gaza City hotel.

Gaza is still recovering from Israel’s devastating military offensive a year ago, which was aimed at halting rocket fire from the territory. Thirteen Israelis and almost 1,400 Gazans were killed in the three-week war.

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The four men are American and Canadian citizens. Israel bans its citizens from visiting the blockaded territory. Weiss and his comrades entered Gaza through a border crossing with Egypt.

Neturei Karta, Aramaic for “Guardians of the City,” was founded seven decades ago in Jerusalem by Jews who opposed the drive to establish the state of Israel, believing only the Messiah could do that.

Considered marginal even among ultra-Orthodox Jews, the group’s size is estimated at between a few hundred to a few thousand people.


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 Jan 01, 2010 at 09:46 AM Avi Says:

Given that this group supports the murder of millions of Jews, I am not sure it's appropriate to describe them as "ultra-Orthodox".

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 09:48 AM can't count Says:

A few hundred to a few thousand members?! It's a handful of roitzchim nutcases!

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 09:49 AM Aharoni Macaroni Says:

Isn't Gaza part Eretz P'lishteem? I don't get NKs point here.....friends of Avimelech????

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 09:50 AM Anonymous Says:

Let the media stop giving them the attention they want!!!!

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 09:51 AM Anonymous Says:

minyan? krias hatorah?

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 09:53 AM emes Says:

Why do you write stories about "mishugoyim." There are plenty of "mishugoyim" around. These four are in Gaza for Shabbos and are not even davening betzibur and missing krias hatoraah for what.? To make a point? The Rebono Shel Olam will take care of them in time. We do not need to read about crazy people.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 09:54 AM American Rabbi Says:

Dont these Amharatzim know that it is forbidden to give aid to enemies of the Jewish people in any way? What ignorance they display. If Rav Amram was alive he would have expelled them from Niturei Karta.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 09:55 AM Anonymous Says:

Chillul Shabbos and chillul Hashem all together. So Sad!!!!

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 09:58 AM Let the Tznius police at them Says:

Let the Tnius police rough them up a bit. I'm sick of the Neturei Karta. While we know they don't represent us the Media and the world certainly don't. This gives off the image that many Ultra orthodox/chareidim side with the Palistinians.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:03 AM Anonymous Says:

How Sad to watch these ignorent self hating jews make such a chilul hashem, may their names be eraised for ever.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:04 AM Anonymous Says:

"A small group of ultra-Orthodox Jews"
Call them misguided, Meshugo'im, Mush'chossim, but don't call them ultra orthodox!

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:05 AM Elki Says:

By now everyone realizes that this is a small group of psychotic people. Neturei Karta is rabidly anti-Zionist/medinah, but 99% would not go near Ahmidinijean or Palestinians and only wish well for Jews. But their leaders have to come out and denounce these lunatics as not being accepted by Neturei Karta and not representative of Neturei Karta. Klal Yisroel needs a yeshuah on all counts.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:06 AM fact! Says:

I would like to know who is the public relation manager for Neturei Karta. He is amazing! Despite their horrible nature, they manage to get in the news more than the kkk. Terrible!

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:07 AM Anonymous Says:

Lucky if they have 150 members

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:17 AM cool masmid Says:

How sick and misguided these individuals are. My question I would ask them if I had the opportunity would be that how could they(neturei karta)be on the same page as our sworn enemies when our enemies want not just "their" land back but they want us wiped out (or as in the case of Iran wiped off). So my questions is if they are giving recognition and support to them then they are no better them. And so its fair to say these individuals(I'll leave the name calling for others) are murderers. Its really that simple.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:19 AM Anonymous Says:

Listen, after all they get a chance to go on a plane and stay in hotels, be away from home, basically a nice getaway vacation which otherwise they wouldn't be able to do (not due to a job since they never worked) and on top if it get much attention which they lack like small children, so what should they do? stay in monsey and going crazy out of bordum? these lunatics enjoy each & every minute of their vacation, and if they still manage to get people upset, is like winning a jackpot! they laugh their heads off, when they call their buddies in Monsey and by hearing that people are furious on what they did etc, this gives them the maximum satisfaction they so desperatly need, trust me, I know some of these loosers! they work like terrorists who seek to cause maximum fatalaties, but also to instill shock & fear etc. same with these shmucks, they always sit and plan what their next step, where are we flying next? which story will get people really mad, and also after a trip like this, when they come home,they have a few weeks what to do, since people stop them & ask why did they do this etc?they love to argue and hold debates so they are atleast occupied at that time. What a bunch of loosers! please stay in Gaza this time, I promise, you will get much more attention there, you will be able to give interviews there day & night, Trust me, you will have much more FUN if you stay in Gaza...

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:23 AM Cadd9 Says:

Very inspiring. They can sing Ko ribbon olam in Gaza where it was composed.,and really find meaning in P'rok yas onoch m'pum aryeviosa.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:24 AM yoelyg Says:

They douing a smart thing,we must show the palestinian that realy yidden don't fight with them so they will stop the rockets, nobody fights with the wall if the isreali's start fighting with them they coming out from the whole

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:36 AM anonymous Says:

In one column on this website a demented Yid referred to teaching about the chorbin in Europe as bitul torah. I assure you and I am certain that a son/daughter of survivors is not among them and a survivor even he keeps nothing would not join those rotzchim for shabbes. This reflects more on our matzif hanefesh than all the yishovoth. We should scream al chet and not worry about President Carter

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:43 AM Anonymous Says:

I'll be SHOCKED if they LIVE till Motzei Shabbos in gaza

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 10:55 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #14  
Anonymous Says:

Lucky if they have 150 members

i don't know if they have many members but they definitely have many who symphathize with them

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 11:01 AM Tulips Says:

Just nauseates me to read the word "Rabbi" Yisroel Dovid Weiss !!
How & who gave him that title. Takes a little more to be called Rabbi.
How about IMAN WEISS

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 11:03 AM tulips Says:

Reply to #17  
Cadd9 Says:

Very inspiring. They can sing Ko ribbon olam in Gaza where it was composed.,and really find meaning in P'rok yas onoch m'pum aryeviosa.

Or sing B'voioy Meidoim when they get back

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 11:05 AM Anonymous Says:

Which Beis Din would these "jews" abide by? If they are truly orthodox, why arent they summoned to their beis din for a ruling that they cannot do this?

Or would they ignore that, just as they have ignored common sense?

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 11:08 AM s Says:

I don'y getit. If they are not citzens then why can't Israel just deny them visas and entry and kick them out this way they can spend the rest of their lifes in Hamasland and maybe get voted in as well. The Mayor of.....terror

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 11:13 AM Anonymous Says:

Ok, why does everyone attack them? Don't they have a right to express their opinions? Or do we all have to think alike? Come on.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 11:20 AM Yaakov Uvinu Says:

It seems that the majority of the bloggers all forgot about what we recently read in Parshas Vayishlach, how Yakkov Uvinu bowed many times to Eisuv with gifts, hugs, etc.

This is how we survived throughout exile, with all the Sonei Yisroel we had to deal.

Please stop bashing these Mesiras Nefesh Yidden, who are trying to minimze the hate that Zionism planted in the Middle East for the last 60 years.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 12:45 PM Anonymous Says:

I dont know their names but I sure recognize them. It is always the same couple of freaks. Look at the pictures of them standing vigil outside the hospial when Arafat was dying, Kissing Ahmedinijad etc always the same 3-4 idiots.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 12:54 PM KMT Says:

Hope they receive the Arab hospitality they deserve.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 01:00 PM Ari Says:

As a Chasidishe person who's parents were Holocaust survivors and had all their family killed in Aushwitz, i can not say much but to say that it is not only a chillul Hashem, it brings tears to my eyes thinking that Bnei Avrohom, Yitzchak, Yakkov can steep so low and embrace and befriend Rishoyim and Roitzchim and deniers of the Holoucaust...Hashem will avenge the death of the six million and take Nekama in these Rishoyim...Shame on them.... They are embarrasing all Yidden with their deeds..

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 02:32 PM Anonymous Says:

This is the perfect opportunity. Just deny their re-entry to Israel. They can enjoy the rest of their lives in Gaza with the Am HaDomeh L Chamor

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 02:55 PM Anonymous Says:

All their doing is giving the arabs p.r. that they don't really hate jews just zionists,,,,,,, which we all klnow to be false just look at the tens of thousands of korbanos - Hasem Yishmor.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 02:59 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #32  
Anonymous Says:

This is the perfect opportunity. Just deny their re-entry to Israel. They can enjoy the rest of their lives in Gaza with the Am HaDomeh L Chamor

They entered through the 'Rafah' crossing in egypt, not through Israeli borders.

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 Jan 01, 2010 at 04:06 PM Anonymous Says:

Great!!! Exchange them for Shalit.

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 Jan 02, 2010 at 02:26 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #27  
Yaakov Uvinu Says:

It seems that the majority of the bloggers all forgot about what we recently read in Parshas Vayishlach, how Yakkov Uvinu bowed many times to Eisuv with gifts, hugs, etc.

This is how we survived throughout exile, with all the Sonei Yisroel we had to deal.

Please stop bashing these Mesiras Nefesh Yidden, who are trying to minimze the hate that Zionism planted in the Middle East for the last 60 years.

Study the first Ramban on Parshas Vayishlach.

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 Jan 02, 2010 at 06:33 PM Anonymous Says:

Who said it was good that the army maimed 1000 or more kids for life over there. Shouldn't someone wake up and tell them it wasn't us. And all of you naysayers are like the real jewhaters. What about the Jew who is saved from being attacked because would be attacker saw the nk and believed them, that we don't agree with mafkiring their blood

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 Jan 02, 2010 at 06:54 PM Robert Says:

Reply to #18  
yoelyg Says:

They douing a smart thing,we must show the palestinian that realy yidden don't fight with them so they will stop the rockets, nobody fights with the wall if the isreali's start fighting with them they coming out from the whole

i am not a rabbi however i think these people have a din of rodeff..

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 Jan 02, 2010 at 08:43 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #37  
Anonymous Says:

Who said it was good that the army maimed 1000 or more kids for life over there. Shouldn't someone wake up and tell them it wasn't us. And all of you naysayers are like the real jewhaters. What about the Jew who is saved from being attacked because would be attacker saw the nk and believed them, that we don't agree with mafkiring their blood

No Jew will be saved by these people. When was the last time a terrorist ran into a store and shouted "all the non-zionists please leave quick!" before blowing himself up? The terrorists in Mumbai certainly didn't care that they were murdering charedim. They hate all Jews because theyre Jews period. The Arabs don't sit around and ask themselves if the people they're about to kill say hallel on yom ha'atzmaut.

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 Jan 02, 2010 at 09:14 PM Author of comment#37 Says:

Reply to #21  
Anonymous Says:

i don't know if they have many members but they definitely have many who symphathize with them

This is a response to 38 as well as a
CoMment I.e. How many sympathizers they have. It's true. Many young Jews around the world feel that 'the system' is our own worst enemy. Those freaks go there, but many of us Jewish (especially in eretz yisrael, where this is all happening) youth, wish more frum Jews would go tell the Arabs, in order to increase their awareness, that frum jewsl don't agree with this genocide. But! After seeing all these comments from these frum Jews, it seems that noone wants to m'karev the goyim. Shame on you all. Warmongers. Close minded. Goyim also deserve a chance.

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 Jan 02, 2010 at 09:51 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #39  
Anonymous Says:

No Jew will be saved by these people. When was the last time a terrorist ran into a store and shouted "all the non-zionists please leave quick!" before blowing himself up? The terrorists in Mumbai certainly didn't care that they were murdering charedim. They hate all Jews because theyre Jews period. The Arabs don't sit around and ask themselves if the people they're about to kill say hallel on yom ha'atzmaut.

I said 'would be terrorist'. I'm talking about spreading emes, truth. Judaism.

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 Jan 02, 2010 at 09:56 PM Anonymous Says:

Don't you think this scene with the Hasidic Jews might change the heart of even a few Arab kids, might make them think out of the box just a little bit. Might save one life. Or you just want to jump up and down, be real defensive a real hardliner and scream like someone who feels he really has to prove. Gevalt! Self hating Jews! Antisemitin! Oy!

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 Jan 02, 2010 at 11:52 PM saichel Says:

Reply to #27  
Yaakov Uvinu Says:

It seems that the majority of the bloggers all forgot about what we recently read in Parshas Vayishlach, how Yakkov Uvinu bowed many times to Eisuv with gifts, hugs, etc.

This is how we survived throughout exile, with all the Sonei Yisroel we had to deal.

Please stop bashing these Mesiras Nefesh Yidden, who are trying to minimze the hate that Zionism planted in the Middle East for the last 60 years.

you brought up a strong point, it's a very controversal issue, but this is the truth of this matter, people become very impulsive, when they see an outstanding picture frum yidden marching together with our most hated enemy.

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 Jan 02, 2010 at 11:58 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #42  
Anonymous Says:

Don't you think this scene with the Hasidic Jews might change the heart of even a few Arab kids, might make them think out of the box just a little bit. Might save one life. Or you just want to jump up and down, be real defensive a real hardliner and scream like someone who feels he really has to prove. Gevalt! Self hating Jews! Antisemitin! Oy!

No, a group of chasidim who are outcasts even in the chasidic world is not going to change the mind of Arab kids. That doesn't even make sense. What are they going to do, "oh I remember some chasidic guys, so I won't be a terrorist"? Again, they hate Jews because they're Jews. They do not care if someone is an anti-zionist, chiloni, or a leftist.

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 Jan 03, 2010 at 02:07 AM eli Says:

Reply to #27  
Yaakov Uvinu Says:

It seems that the majority of the bloggers all forgot about what we recently read in Parshas Vayishlach, how Yakkov Uvinu bowed many times to Eisuv with gifts, hugs, etc.

This is how we survived throughout exile, with all the Sonei Yisroel we had to deal.

Please stop bashing these Mesiras Nefesh Yidden, who are trying to minimze the hate that Zionism planted in the Middle East for the last 60 years.

you think that would minimize the hate? you have a huge mistake even reb amnon yitzchak who is pretty much anti zionist told these idiots that by kissing i'm in the mood for jihad AKA achmadinijahd you are giving them an excuse to kill us and you think that if this nut-job from iran is going to bomb israel chas veshalom you think he's gonna program the bomb that it should skip this house cuz a netura karta jerk is lives there? he want to kill ALL the jews got that???

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