Cedar Rapids, IA - Official to VIN News: No One Threatened Rubashkin |
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February 11, 2010 09:27 AM
News Source: VIN News Staff
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Cedar Rapids, IA - Some news blogs have been circulating a report that Sholom Rubashkin was placed in solitary confinement at the Linn County Correctional Center, due to threats by other inmates.
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A government official who asked to remain anonymous, confirmed to VIN News that in fact Mr. Rubashkin was placed in confinement, but categorically denied that Rubashkin was threatened by other inmates.
The official who was upset with the report, declined to give future details, saying “we are not allowed to divulge jail activity But I could tell you, that no threats were ever made to Mr. Rubashkin, and such reports are irresponsible and erroneous.”
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Feb 11, 2010 at 08:57 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
so why solitary cinfinement? let me tell you that in the rural states there is a lot of anti semitisim and i am sure that includes law enforcement or the lack of.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 09:00 AM michali Says:Report as Inappropriate
What is the prison trying to hide? Why couldn't they divulge the reason why SMR was placed in confinement? Very suspicious to me. Obviously, they are trying to hide something. Please G-d, watch over R. Sholom Mordechai Halevi.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 09:32 AM punch Says:Report as Inappropriate
what's the name to be mispallel?
today is a Yom Tefillah & Erev Yom Kipur Koton. everybody is urged to be mispallel
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Feb 11, 2010 at 09:14 AM Alma Dshikra Says:Report as Inappropriate
Somebody is lying their pants off! If he isn't being threatened then why is he in solitary confinement? They either put you in solitary because you are misbehaving and causing fights...or to keep you safe. I'm sure its not the former.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 09:41 AM Richard Nixon Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ What is the prison trying to hide? Why couldn't they divulge the reason why SMR was placed in confinement? Very suspicious to me. Obviously, they are trying to hide something. Please G-d, watch over R. Sholom Mordechai Halevi. ”
The official who was upset with the report, declined to give future details, saying
“we are not allowed to divulge jail activity .......”
Prisons have rules about every detail of their operations and that includes what information they release to the public and by nature prisons are very strict about all rules and regulations.
R"L this creates many painful situations.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 09:56 AM to #3 Says:Report as Inappropriate
Shalom Mordechai halevi ben Rivkah.
Hashem should help him go min hameitzar el hamerchav, in a very literal sense, in all ways. amen!
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Feb 11, 2010 at 10:01 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ What is the prison trying to hide? Why couldn't they divulge the reason why SMR was placed in confinement? Very suspicious to me. Obviously, they are trying to hide something. Please G-d, watch over R. Sholom Mordechai Halevi. ”
You are correct they are trying to hide something, the fact that they cannot protect a Jewish inmate in their custody. The editors of VIn are very naive in publishing this propoganda from the prison.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 10:11 AM Authentic Londoner Says:Report as Inappropriate
In these circumstances and for his own safety, he should consider trimming his beard and not wearing a yarmulke. In prison it is best not to draw attention to oneself by looking different from others. Everyone knows that should he trim his beard and go bareheaded, it is because he is forced to do so for his own safety and not C"V that he wants to do that.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 10:22 AM BOP social worker Says:Report as Inappropriate
Causing trouble and protection are the 2 official reasons by the BOP for placing an inmate in solitary, the unofficial motive that you will never hear is when try to break someone's will power or moral, what is being done here to SMR is just this, the feds are trying to get this person roughened up a bit and C"V harm him in a way which I don't even want to mention here, I know this from dealing with and trying to help Yiddish prisoners over the years, all I can say is one thing; המקום ירחם עליהם ויוציאם מצרה לרוחה this country is part of golus, the feds here (dept. Of justice) use no less severe tactics (psychological ones) then what was used in Spain in 1492. Hasem Yrachaim.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 10:23 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ In these circumstances and for his own safety, he should consider trimming his beard and not wearing a yarmulke. In prison it is best not to draw attention to oneself by looking different from others. Everyone knows that should he trim his beard and go bareheaded, it is because he is forced to do so for his own safety and not C"V that he wants to do that. ”
They said the same thing in the early 1900's when Jews came to America; that, and working on shabbos...
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Feb 11, 2010 at 10:23 AM moshe aryeh Says:Report as Inappropriate
Solitary confinemet is used in smaller penal facilities to deal with prisoners who might not fare well in general pop eg white collar defendants. Stop thinking every thing is part of a witch hunt!
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Feb 11, 2010 at 10:28 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
It might be for his own safety; he might have even requested it. Who knows what kind of prisoners that he had to be with. Anyway, every Jew should be mispallel for his safety and pidyon shvuyim. This is a very important mitzvah!
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Feb 11, 2010 at 10:55 AM I agree Says:Report as Inappropriate
Great post, #11. He's different, so they've done this to protect him. When will we stop thinking that everything is an attack on Jews?
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Feb 11, 2010 at 10:59 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
hashem ishmor him
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Feb 11, 2010 at 11:14 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ In these circumstances and for his own safety, he should consider trimming his beard and not wearing a yarmulke. In prison it is best not to draw attention to oneself by looking different from others. Everyone knows that should he trim his beard and go bareheaded, it is because he is forced to do so for his own safety and not C"V that he wants to do that. ”
Yes and while he is at it why doesn't he get a few tatoos. Maybe one with a picture of the "Rebbe." Please let's not be ignorant.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 11:16 AM Yehuda Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ In these circumstances and for his own safety, he should consider trimming his beard and not wearing a yarmulke. In prison it is best not to draw attention to oneself by looking different from others. Everyone knows that should he trim his beard and go bareheaded, it is because he is forced to do so for his own safety and not C"V that he wants to do that. ”
Sorry, but he is a Lubavitcher & has been reared never to be ashamed that he is a Jew & that he should proudly show that he is Jew. Especially in the US where there is supposedly freedom of religion.
His grandparents in Russia defied the communists and did a lot for the furtherance of Judiasim under the threat of death if caught. You think that he would do any different?
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Feb 11, 2010 at 11:17 AM Abba Says:Report as Inappropriate
Wow dosent look like a place I would want yo be
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Feb 11, 2010 at 11:23 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Is there anything we ''the people of democratic USA'' can do to stop this lynching?!? anyone who watched the 'whole' case, read the court papers, and is familiar with the details of the case will tell you that this entire case is a 'lynching' of the first degree, what he did was common practice and most of the counts he is accused of was forced on him by the feds after the raid when he desperately tried to save his business, in which other businesses got bailout money is such a situation, its should be called the ''Holocaust Of The 21st Century''!.
Please if you have any ideas what we 'the citizens' can do to stop it please post.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 11:41 AM Chabad Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ In these circumstances and for his own safety, he should consider trimming his beard and not wearing a yarmulke. In prison it is best not to draw attention to oneself by looking different from others. Everyone knows that should he trim his beard and go bareheaded, it is because he is forced to do so for his own safety and not C"V that he wants to do that. ”
You have no clue what a true chossid is.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 12:02 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Now SMR can begin his repentence in private, with no one to see his disgrace. maybe he'll even become a truly frum Yidden? Don't hold out any hope. How's all that gold jewelry coming in, should reach about 10 cents by now.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 12:06 PM to shaul from monsey Says:Report as Inappropriate
Why have you fallen silent as you rote about dwek al todin es chavercha ad shetagia limkomo don't you think smr deserves at least an equel chance
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Feb 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
US prisons need more oversight for prisoner's rights. Congressmen should be more involved with setting up an agency where prisoners or their families can complain about and deal with their abuses by prison authorities. Maybe the Alef Institute or some other organization can contact Congress about this.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 12:08 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Great post, #11. He's different, so they've done this to protect him. When will we stop thinking that everything is an attack on Jews? ”
You've got to be kidding. Solitary is a PUNISHMENT. Nobody ever requests it. If they're concerned for his safety then they should put him in protective custody, not in solitary confinement! This is an outrage, no matter what its motive.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 12:10 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ In these circumstances and for his own safety, he should consider trimming his beard and not wearing a yarmulke. In prison it is best not to draw attention to oneself by looking different from others. Everyone knows that should he trim his beard and go bareheaded, it is because he is forced to do so for his own safety and not C"V that he wants to do that. ”
Never in a million years. If there's one thing Lubavitchers know it's mesirus nefesh. Russia was a lot more dangerous than a federal jail in the USA, and if his parents and grandparents refused to compromise there on even a dikduk kal shel divrei sofrim, he's certainly not going to do so now.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 01:16 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ You've got to be kidding. Solitary is a PUNISHMENT. Nobody ever requests it. If they're concerned for his safety then they should put him in protective custody, not in solitary confinement! This is an outrage, no matter what its motive. ”
Millhouse - for once I agree with you! LOL!
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Feb 11, 2010 at 01:16 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ US prisons need more oversight for prisoner's rights. Congressmen should be more involved with setting up an agency where prisoners or their families can complain about and deal with their abuses by prison authorities. Maybe the Alef Institute or some other organization can contact Congress about this. ”
Prisoner's have more rights than those walking on the street. If the thermstat is one degree out of their 'comfort zone' the inmates can sue and win - big time! Why do some expect a country club setting? Prison is for punisment of the cnvicted; not alternative housing. Actually, we need less coddeling of inmates.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 01:31 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Now SMR can begin his repentence in private, with no one to see his disgrace. maybe he'll even become a truly frum Yidden? Don't hold out any hope. How's all that gold jewelry coming in, should reach about 10 cents by now. ”
Solitary is not a punishment to a prisoner with a long beard who davens. It's for protection. You should be grateful he won't be harassed by the other guys. It'll also give him time to think about how he'll live his life when he gets out.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 02:52 PM the tzig Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Never in a million years. If there's one thing Lubavitchers know it's mesirus nefesh. Russia was a lot more dangerous than a federal jail in the USA, and if his parents and grandparents refused to compromise there on even a dikduk kal shel divrei sofrim, he's certainly not going to do so now. ”
Millhouse, take a stroll in Crown Heights World headquarters of Chabad, and see how many young lubavitcher stroll around with trimmed and almost non existent beards
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Feb 11, 2010 at 03:31 PM tehillim Says:Report as Inappropriate
sholom morechei halevi ben rivkah (i think) plz say tehillim
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Feb 11, 2010 at 07:36 PM True Blue Aussie Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ so why solitary cinfinement? let me tell you that in the rural states there is a lot of anti semitisim and i am sure that includes law enforcement or the lack of. ”
Most likely cos it's the easiest way to protect him. Being a Jew in jail is hard enough but being an orthodox Jew in jail is a nightmare both for the prisoner and for jail staff.
The prison has done him a favor here. In solitary he will access to his books and all that he needs. He will be able to learn and daven without the need to look over his shoulder all the time.
This was the best thing that could have happened to him. Ask him and I'll bet he says that he is happier in solitary then what he was in general population.
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Feb 11, 2010 at 09:45 PM mayer from ch Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Now SMR can begin his repentence in private, with no one to see his disgrace. maybe he'll even become a truly frum Yidden? Don't hold out any hope. How's all that gold jewelry coming in, should reach about 10 cents by now. ”
Anonymous, whom ever you are... the skeletons in your closet will soon start dancing...
give your name, at least your first name. oh, by the way, ask your mother how she would feel if you were in solitary confinement for those skeletons...
just wondering, did you ever think of what happens after 120?
you are a disgrace, time to repent for all the "frum yidden"
you have no soul and surly no heart
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Feb 11, 2010 at 09:47 PM mayer from ch Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Solitary is not a punishment to a prisoner with a long beard who davens. It's for protection. You should be grateful he won't be harassed by the other guys. It'll also give him time to think about how he'll live his life when he gets out. ”
where is your heart?
where is your neshama?
rochmonim benei rachmonim!
are you one of us?
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Feb 12, 2010 at 12:24 PM What? Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ where is your heart?
where is your neshama?
rochmonim benei rachmonim!
are you one of us? ”
What was wrong with what I said? He'll be safer in solitary. He'll have time to think.
A heartless person wouldn't care if other inmates harassed him, or hope that, when he is released, his life is all about positive things.