New York - Rabbi Avi Weiss To Address Rabba Issue |
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Last updated on: March 5, 2010 03:42 PM
Rabba Sara Hurwitz in the Hebrew Institute of Riverdale.New York - After a lengthy negotiation with the Rabbinical Council of America, Rabbi Avi Weiss has agreed to not use the title of Rabba.
A press release from the RCA included a letter from Rabbi Weiss addressed to RCA President Rabbi Moshe Kletenik:
“It is not my intention or the intention of Yeshivat Maharat to confer the title of “Rabba” upon its graduates,” Rabbi Weiss wrote. “Yeshivat Maharat prepares women for positions of religious leadership in the Orthodox community. Each student who completes its course of study in Tanakh, Talmud, Halakha and Jewish Thought, and is deemed fit by her faith, knowledge of our Mesoret, ethical integrity and temperament to assume positions of religious leadership in Orthodox institutions will be confirmed as manhigah hilkhatit, ruhanit, toranit (Maharat).”
The RCA praised Rabbi Weiss, explaining that the issue was resolved with “adherence to Torah principles and in a spirit of cooperation for the sake of peace and unity.” The letter states the RCA’s support for women in positions of leadership, however “any innovations that impact the community as a whole should be done only with the broad support of the Orthodox rabbinate and a firm grounding in the eternal mesorah of the Jewish people.”
The Jewish Star has learned that Rabbi Weiss would address that matter in his drosha this Shabbos at the Hebrew Institute of Riverdale and announce that Hurwitz would henceforth use the title of Mahara”t, as will future graduates of Rabbi Weiss’ program.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 01:32 PM Gregaaron Says:Report as Inappropriate
A duck is a duck whether or not it's called one (or, if you prefer, a pig in lipstick for this chazzer-treif maharat idea)...I'm not sure why he deserves to be praised. It's quite obvious that his intentions and hashkafos haven't changed one iota.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 01:33 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Even if rav weiss, shlita, does not use the term "rabba", within a generation we will have women rabbonim by whatever name is ultimately selected. The genie is out of the bottle and yiddeshe women have been empowered to take on the responsibilities of poskim, etc.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 01:37 PM Zev Says:Report as Inappropriate
The ways of R’ Avi Weiss is the way the reform and conservative movements began, make small changes, not to long from now he will be…..
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Mar 05, 2010 at 01:37 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
"knowledge of our Mesoret" need i say more?
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Mar 05, 2010 at 01:54 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Call her Sarah - X
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Mar 05, 2010 at 01:56 PM PMO Says:Report as Inappropriate
I applaud this compromise. A recognized "degree" of sorts is a good thing. "Rabba" was an awful thing. Women certainly have their places in positions of leadership when it comes to helping other women and families, and to establish a standard for that leadership benefits every family. To allow women to become experts in those areas of halacha pertaining to women and children will help with everything from childhood schooling to family issues to some medical issues which are typically handled by the woman of the house anyway. Proper education in our communities (in Torah and secular studies) benefits the community as a whole.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 01:58 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Thus, begins the second Act.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:01 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Soon women will be saying Shelo Asani Ish...
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:03 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
This shows some in the RCA are willing to comprimise with our Mesorah to accomadate the times thats called a Conservative idea
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:06 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
The RCA , blinked first.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:10 PM WB Says:Report as Inappropriate
I would also remove the title rabbi from Weiss, I'd call him Mr. Weiss
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:10 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Weiss isn’t finished yet. This letter, although seemingly a retreat from his “ordination” of “Orthodox” female rabbis, is but a strategic retreat in the face of strong opposition. The opposition obviously came from outside the RCA, whose rabbis to a great degree agree with Weiss and would be happy to hire some of Weiss’s “Rabbas”, given the chance.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:11 PM Pardo Says:Report as Inappropriate
All's well that ends well. First Maharat, then Rabba, then Rabbi, that was the intention. So it's good that the Agudah condemned him which gave the RCA some leeway in negotiating with him to get off his high horse. Now that “rabbi” was nipped in the bud it’s for us to see how far they will go with “Maharat”.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:12 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
It seems on issues outside the MO kehillah some of the RCA takes drastic strong positions yet when it comes to there own standards comprimises take place at times.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:12 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Maharat, I prefer ( Maharani )
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:16 PM cholent Says:Report as Inappropriate
perhaps there is a little irony here in the fact that weiss's letter was addressed to kletenik.. for after all it was mrs. kletenik who broke 65 years of tradition at the seattle hebrew academy, and became the first female headmaster of a school that was always headed by talmidei chachomim muvhokim. the advancement of woman is a noble cause, but the usurption by women,of positions that in halachic terms might, and should, belong to mushmochim,is not only ground broken by weiss, but very much by the kleteniks as well.. as chazal said, motzoh min es mino (with the word "min" to be understood in many ways!!!)
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:16 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Yiddishkeit should not be comprimised at all to fit with the times that is a Conservative idea
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:16 PM sara Says:Report as Inappropriate
why cant a woman pasken if she knows more than a man about halacha?
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:16 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Rabbi Weiss saw that he had no costituenency in Orthodoxy's leadership and Orthodoxy in general for his Rabba idea and backed down big time
For all your other commenters so far there is nothing worse than a sore loser except a sore winner.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:16 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
The RCA was caught in very compromising situation.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:30 PM Robert Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ The RCA , blinked first. ”
Thank God they did
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:31 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ why cant a woman pasken if she knows more than a man about halacha? ”
it says
nashim daitan kahlot hen
perhaps that is the reason
better yet ask your local orthodox rabbi
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:33 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Soon women will be saying Shelo Asani Ish... ”
some of us already do when we read/hear some of the things you guys say
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:33 PM clear thinker Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Weiss isn’t finished yet. This letter, although seemingly a retreat from his “ordination” of “Orthodox” female rabbis, is but a strategic retreat in the face of strong opposition. The opposition obviously came from outside the RCA, whose rabbis to a great degree agree with Weiss and would be happy to hire some of Weiss’s “Rabbas”, given the chance. ”
Once again we get our personal feelings mixed up with civility. It is Rabbi Weiss. He has smicha, and I am willing to bet you know from which Rabbonim. and Yeshivah. He has not been placed in cherem. People can disagree about important issues and yet remain civil. The strange thing is your points are lost in your nastiness.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:35 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ why cant a woman pasken if she knows more than a man about halacha? ”
because their fragile egos can't take it
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:37 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
So basically now she will be called Maharat whats the difference either way this represnts a brake with the mesorah and the position of
Gedolei Yisroel.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:42 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ why cant a woman pasken if she knows more than a man about halacha? ”
There is no question that she can. See Pischei Teshuvah CM 7:5.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:56 PM Shlita in response to #16 Says:Report as Inappropriate
Shkoyack to Harav Kletenik Shlita. He is a tremendous talmid chochom and baal midos. To poster #16 regarding Rebbetzin Kletenik, I would venture to say you dont even have 1/100th of the knowledge that she has. So grow crawl back into your hole. This is 2010 not the 1920's in a shtetel.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:44 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ A duck is a duck whether or not it's called one (or, if you prefer, a pig in lipstick for this chazzer-treif maharat idea)...I'm not sure why he deserves to be praised. It's quite obvious that his intentions and hashkafos haven't changed one iota. ”
What's treif about it? There is no question that a woman who knows halacha can pasken, which is what smicha is about. The only question is what title she should have. I say we should go with the title the Sefer Hachinuch uses for such a woman: Chachama (אשה חכמה הראויה להורות).
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:46 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ The ways of R’ Avi Weiss is the way the reform and conservative movements began, make small changes, not to long from now he will be….. ”
You clearly know nothing about those movements. They started not with changes but with kefirah; the changes were a result of the heresy, not the other way around. Had their changes come out of a true emunah they would not have been opposed; the proof is that many orthodox ended up adopting some of their changes, such as a weekly drosho during davening.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 02:47 PM clear thinker Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ The RCA , blinked first. ”
How can you say that? Things were moving nicely for the term "maharat". Rabbi Weiss was not threatened with being thrown out of the RCA. He was emboldened to change the title to Rabba. Rabbi Weiss was force to retreat because of the opposition within RCA. There are no great losers in a compromise, but Rabbi Weiss certainly didn't win here.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 03:13 PM Charlie Hall Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ why cant a woman pasken if she knows more than a man about halacha? ”
she can
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Mar 05, 2010 at 03:15 PM CBS Says:Report as Inappropriate
Weiss has never proved that he is a great thinker. The outcome was there for all to see at the beginning except if you are blinded by your need for notoriety.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 03:15 PM Charlie Hall Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I applaud this compromise. A recognized "degree" of sorts is a good thing. "Rabba" was an awful thing. Women certainly have their places in positions of leadership when it comes to helping other women and families, and to establish a standard for that leadership benefits every family. To allow women to become experts in those areas of halacha pertaining to women and children will help with everything from childhood schooling to family issues to some medical issues which are typically handled by the woman of the house anyway. Proper education in our communities (in Torah and secular studies) benefits the community as a whole. ”
Here, here! Women are obligated in all areas of halachah covered in the traditional yoreh yoreh semichah curriculum and there is no reason why they should not be encouraged to learn at the highest levels possible, and to be acknowledged for that learning.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 03:18 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
WAeiss got we he wanted most, publicity
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Mar 05, 2010 at 03:32 PM Robert Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Once again we get our personal feelings mixed up with civility. It is Rabbi Weiss. He has smicha, and I am willing to bet you know from which Rabbonim. and Yeshivah. He has not been placed in cherem. People can disagree about important issues and yet remain civil. The strange thing is your points are lost in your nastiness. ”
I absolutely agree
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Mar 05, 2010 at 03:35 PM Robert Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ What's treif about it? There is no question that a woman who knows halacha can pasken, which is what smicha is about. The only question is what title she should have. I say we should go with the title the Sefer Hachinuch uses for such a woman: Chachama (אשה חכמה הראויה להורות). ”
Since when did you get so rational and reasonable?
I like the new Millhouse
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Mar 05, 2010 at 03:54 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
If the RCA would be smart They should drop him just for thinking that way.He is a dangerous person.Even the liberal's don't think much of him.He is running a cult.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 03:58 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
I believe Sarah Schnirer was also vehemently opposed at first
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Mar 05, 2010 at 04:23 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Wow it seems that Weiss compromises!! Either at the table or with religion! A "busha".
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Mar 05, 2010 at 04:28 PM rsm Says:Report as Inappropriate
What ever happened to Rebbetzin or Rabanit ?
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Mar 05, 2010 at 04:31 PM formally Says:Report as Inappropriate
maybe some men here are afraid tha woman will now know more than them, and will be able to call them out when they are wrong
to paskin it is about knowledge if she can prove she knows her stuff what is the issue
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Mar 05, 2010 at 04:33 PM Chaim Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I believe Sarah Schnirer was also vehemently opposed at first ”
InWIn 1917 there was very strong opposition to Bais Yaakov too. Now look
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Mar 05, 2010 at 05:01 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Since when did you get so rational and reasonable?
I like the new Millhouse ”
New? I'm always rational and reasonable. And I always stand up for what's right, even when it's not popular. You're the one with irrational and unreasonable positions, who gets upset when I point out their flaws. Go back as far as you like in the archives, and you will never find a contradiction in my positions.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 05:03 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ What ever happened to Rebbetzin or Rabanit ? ”
A rebbetzin is a rabbi's wife, and can be a complete amhoratzte. She certainly isn't qualified to pasken a shayla or to teach torah, as this woman is.
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Mar 05, 2010 at 05:34 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ why cant a woman pasken if she knows more than a man about halacha? ”
Why can't a goy pasken if he knows more than a Jew about halacha? It isn't an issue of knowledge, it is an issue of who the Torah empowers to be considered a "yore yore". The system established by Moshe Rabeinu and has existed ever since only includes men. Very Simple.
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Mar 06, 2010 at 05:48 AM can't compare! Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I believe Sarah Schnirer was also vehemently opposed at first ”
well sarah schnirer covered her hair properly according to Halachah.
I doubt she spoke in a synagogue!
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Mar 06, 2010 at 02:48 PM Yonason Herschlag Says:Report as Inappropriate
The gemora says that women shouldn't learn gemora because they are light-headed, and would distort the gemora would they learn it. Of course it is possible that there could be exceptions to this rule, but it would generally be presumptive for a woman to assume she qualifies for learning gemora. Considering that women do not have the obligation to learn for the sake of learning, they should rather learn halacha, tanach, and mussar. If they finish all that, and still want to learn gemora, then they could ask a gadol.
To be able to paskin, one needs the reasoning skills of gemora, as well as yiras shamayim.
For women to ask questions to a wise woman is commendable, but to put a woman in a position that will lead men to come to them with halachic queries is shameful, even if she has the knowledge to answer the questions. If there are men qualified to answer the man's question, why should he be directed to a woman for his query?
There is no need to worry that this disgusting idea will "catch on". The vast majority of orthodox find this repulsive, and that is the way it will stay.
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Mar 06, 2010 at 07:31 PM shanak Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I believe Sarah Schnirer was also vehemently opposed at first ”
Yes, you are correct.
The chafetz Chaim was initially against Sarah Schnirer but after meeting with her, he admitted that he was wrong. Look at all the Beth Jacob schools that we have now because of her? She was the Avi weiss of her generation.
Most of you here, are just posting for the sake of posting. And most of you are male who forget that we did have seven Nevihot.
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Mar 06, 2010 at 07:33 PM sora shnierer Says:Report as Inappropriate
sorry to burst previous posters bubble, but there was NO opposition from gedolim of most ares when bais yaakov started, considering it was based on the teaching of the holy, rav shamshon rapheal hirsch, and was sat up by the chofetz chaim and the gurrer rebbe!!!
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Mar 06, 2010 at 08:08 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
The real loser here is the poor Ms. Hurvitz Rabbi Weiss knew very well that she would not be accepted in the Orthodox world, she was his pawn, he is looking for publicity as he always has, B"H there is no more reason to demonstrate and end up in the newspapers so he needs something else, that's why he established his two so called "yeshivas". Isn't YU bad enough.
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Mar 06, 2010 at 08:17 PM shalom Says:Report as Inappropriate
stop one jew fighting with another jew just because he or she isnt as yeshivish as them...this is what caused the churban...our real enemy is amalek.we are one klal yisroel
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Mar 06, 2010 at 09:06 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
I'm pretty glad shelo asani ish.
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Mar 06, 2010 at 09:09 PM DizzyIzzy Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Soon women will be saying Shelo Asani Ish... ”
It's disappointing that they do not already.
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Mar 06, 2010 at 09:22 PM shimon Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ What's treif about it? There is no question that a woman who knows halacha can pasken, which is what smicha is about. The only question is what title she should have. I say we should go with the title the Sefer Hachinuch uses for such a woman: Chachama (אשה חכמה הראויה להורות). ”
Ha. Before our times, many sephardic communities used the title Chacham instead of Rabbi. Chachama would be a female form.
Other suggestions:
Rabbanit (many seminary teachers and famous lecturers are addressed this way, regardless of what their husband is doing). Wife of a Rabbi can be Rebbetzin.
Morah - used by gan teachers today. Also used by Morah Nechama Leibowitz. In Yemen, the title Mori was used instead of Rabbi.
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Mar 06, 2010 at 09:26 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Rebbetzin Sarah Schenirer set up schools because religiously uneducated girls were being lost to Yiddishkeit in very turbulent times and the home could no longer protect them from outside influences & isms.
Rabbi Weiss is doing exactly the opposite: Rocking the boat of a mostly successful system of religious authority.
And for those of you that will start ranting about infighting & corrupt Rabbonim, please answer honestly: Does adding women into the mix of spiritual leadership have a greater chance of solving any of these issues, or promoting more strife?
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Mar 06, 2010 at 10:05 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Shkoyack to Harav Kletenik Shlita. He is a tremendous talmid chochom and baal midos. To poster #16 regarding Rebbetzin Kletenik, I would venture to say you dont even have 1/100th of the knowledge that she has. So grow crawl back into your hole. This is 2010 not the 1920's in a shtetel. ”
Hey wiseguy, please explain why is 2010 better than 1920!
Back then Klal Yisroel had real gedolim, not like this joke "rabbi" Weiss...
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Mar 06, 2010 at 10:13 PM she doesnt even follow halacha Says:Report as Inappropriate
I don't think we can begin to talk about her as a leader or an expert in Jewish issues regarding to women until we know that this maharat follows halacha. If anyone has seen a picture of Sarah she does not even cover her hair appropriately.
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Mar 06, 2010 at 11:15 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ why cant a woman pasken if she knows more than a man about halacha? ”
are you sara hurvitz?
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Mar 06, 2010 at 11:40 PM Baruch Mordechai Says:Report as Inappropriate
What is Psak?
Applying a straightforward Halacha from Kitzur Shulchan Aruch e.g. the Bracha on an apple is Ha-eitz is really not "Paskening." New questions such as invitro-fertilization, using photogray lenses on Shabbos, woven S'chach mats, Indian hair sheitels, etc. are questions which require real Psak.
I never cared for the term "Rabba." I was personally rooting for Ravina.
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Mar 06, 2010 at 11:51 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Why can't a goy pasken if he knows more than a Jew about halacha? It isn't an issue of knowledge, it is an issue of who the Torah empowers to be considered a "yore yore". The system established by Moshe Rabeinu and has existed ever since only includes men. Very Simple. ”
Smichas zekenim hasn't existed for a long time - what we know as smicha is the descendent of "smichas moreinu", which seems to have been established in tzarfas and ashkenaz after the death of the Mahara"m meRotenberg (it is discussed in siman 271 of shu"t hariva"sh). The basic idea is that the person has demonstrated that they have enough knowledge and understanding of halachah to pasken (that's not how the Riva"sh understood it, but it is how it was understood in tzarfas/ashkenaz). So yes, smicha is all about knowledge.
Of course, the problem with a goy paskening is that they don't buy into the system of Torah - but as other posters have pointed out (with references that you can clearly look up), that isn't the case with women, who are as Jewish as you.
Also, it's fairly disrespectful for you to just dismiss the poiskim who have already addressed this issue. You should at least be humble enough to learn their opinions.
A gut vokh
A Jew
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Mar 06, 2010 at 11:55 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Why can't a goy pasken if he knows more than a Jew about halacha? It isn't an issue of knowledge, it is an issue of who the Torah empowers to be considered a "yore yore". The system established by Moshe Rabeinu and has existed ever since only includes men. Very Simple. ”
Very simple, and also very wrong. The system *does* allow a woman who knows halacha to pasken, exactly like a man. Toreh, toreh. אשה חכמה הראויה להורות
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Mar 07, 2010 at 12:04 AM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ The gemora says that women shouldn't learn gemora because they are light-headed, and would distort the gemora would they learn it. Of course it is possible that there could be exceptions to this rule, but it would generally be presumptive for a woman to assume she qualifies for learning gemora. Considering that women do not have the obligation to learn for the sake of learning, they should rather learn halacha, tanach, and mussar. If they finish all that, and still want to learn gemora, then they could ask a gadol.
To be able to paskin, one needs the reasoning skills of gemora, as well as yiras shamayim.
For women to ask questions to a wise woman is commendable, but to put a woman in a position that will lead men to come to them with halachic queries is shameful, even if she has the knowledge to answer the questions. If there are men qualified to answer the man's question, why should he be directed to a woman for his query?
There is no need to worry that this disgusting idea will "catch on". The vast majority of orthodox find this repulsive, and that is the way it will stay. ”
First of all, the gemoroh never says women shouldn't learn. It says one shouldn't TEACH ones daughter; but there have always been women who learned anyway, and halacha recognises that a woman who knows how has the right to pasken. אשה חכמה הראויה להורות
The Baal Hatanya's grandmother was the "posekes" in the family; the men spent all their time learning gemoro, so when a practical shayla came up in hilchos shabbos they didn't know how to pasken lemayseh; so they turned to her to pasken, because she was boki in shulchon oruch and the nosei kelim.
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Mar 07, 2010 at 12:27 AM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ What is Psak?
Applying a straightforward Halacha from Kitzur Shulchan Aruch e.g. the Bracha on an apple is Ha-eitz is really not "Paskening." New questions such as invitro-fertilization, using photogray lenses on Shabbos, woven S'chach mats, Indian hair sheitels, etc. are questions which require real Psak.
I never cared for the term "Rabba." I was personally rooting for Ravina. ”
Psak is whatever it is that a normal "yoreh yoreh" smicha entitles a male rabbi to do. Whatever that is, a woman with the same knowledge is equally entitled to do, and it's only fair to give her a certificate attesting to that achievement, just as we give to men. What title goes with it is not important; the main thing is "toreh toreh".
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Mar 07, 2010 at 01:40 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Why can't a goy pasken if he knows more than a Jew about halacha? It isn't an issue of knowledge, it is an issue of who the Torah empowers to be considered a "yore yore". The system established by Moshe Rabeinu and has existed ever since only includes men. Very Simple. ”
Well, sure, if we ignore Devorah Hanavi, who certainly seems to have answered shailos in שופטים 4:5
ויעל אליה בני ישראל למשפט
Certainly, it is not a common occurrence, but this is very different from saying the Torah empowers only men to be "yore yore"
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Mar 07, 2010 at 09:12 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ First of all, the gemoroh never says women shouldn't learn. It says one shouldn't TEACH ones daughter; but there have always been women who learned anyway, and halacha recognises that a woman who knows how has the right to pasken. אשה חכמה הראויה להורות
The Baal Hatanya's grandmother was the "posekes" in the family; the men spent all their time learning gemoro, so when a practical shayla came up in hilchos shabbos they didn't know how to pasken lemayseh; so they turned to her to pasken, because she was boki in shulchon oruch and the nosei kelim. ”
Quite a boba meisa
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Mar 07, 2010 at 09:33 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Give me ten good reasons women shouldn't be Rabbas
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Mar 07, 2010 at 10:10 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ A duck is a duck whether or not it's called one (or, if you prefer, a pig in lipstick for this chazzer-treif maharat idea)...I'm not sure why he deserves to be praised. It's quite obvious that his intentions and hashkafos haven't changed one iota. ”
It seems to me like our problem in this community is much more basic then the intricacies of rabanut, if we cannot even be respectful of one another. Every single one of us was created in the image of Hashem. Let's find the respect and kindness for people who have opinions other then our own.
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Mar 07, 2010 at 10:14 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ What is Psak?
Applying a straightforward Halacha from Kitzur Shulchan Aruch e.g. the Bracha on an apple is Ha-eitz is really not "Paskening." New questions such as invitro-fertilization, using photogray lenses on Shabbos, woven S'chach mats, Indian hair sheitels, etc. are questions which require real Psak.
I never cared for the term "Rabba." I was personally rooting for Ravina. ”
The tristate area halachik expert on this is a female. Dina Najman. Even the male Rabbi's ask for her advice.
Dayan
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Mar 07, 2010 at 10:18 AM Heimshe Says:Report as Inappropriate
Does Rabbi Avi Weiss think he is Orthodox? If someone asked him what Rav Moshe Feinstein or what Rav Shimon Schwab would think about this situation...what would Rabbi Avi Weiss say?
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Mar 07, 2010 at 11:08 AM Eli Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ well sarah schnirer covered her hair properly according to Halachah.
I doubt she spoke in a synagogue! ”
Well actually get your facts straight- Sara Schenrier actually did not cover her hair according to halacha for the simple fact that she was never married. A fact not widely made public by the Right wing institution for the fear that young single girls might start to believe that a woman can be a productive and positive force to yiddishkeit even if she is not married with 7 kids.
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Mar 07, 2010 at 03:05 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Reply to # 61. The original R' Ravina would turn in his grave.
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Mar 07, 2010 at 05:10 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Well actually get your facts straight- Sara Schenrier actually did not cover her hair according to halacha for the simple fact that she was never married. A fact not widely made public by the Right wing institution for the fear that young single girls might start to believe that a woman can be a productive and positive force to yiddishkeit even if she is not married with 7 kids. ”
Get your facts straight she was married,but didn't have children.Stop covering that up.
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Mar 07, 2010 at 11:22 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
I had my heart set on "Rabbette"
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Mar 08, 2010 at 11:21 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
she should be called "Reverend" - in the old days Cantors, Mohelim, and Shochetim were called "Reverend" - even Rabbis were also called "Reverend" in England
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Mar 08, 2010 at 02:25 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
This is my problem with the Modern Orthodox movement. It looks like they go out of their way to be provocative and discard established sandards
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Mar 08, 2010 at 07:41 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ she should be called "Reverend" - in the old days Cantors, Mohelim, and Shochetim were called "Reverend" - even Rabbis were also called "Reverend" in England ”
Real rabbis, with yoreh yoreh, were not called "Reverend". That title was used for people who got a sort of "smicha" in orach chayim, but not in yoreh deah. They weren't rabbis, so they were called "reverend".
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Mar 08, 2010 at 11:50 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Get your facts straight she was married,but didn't have children.Stop covering that up. ”
What was her married name? What was her maiden name? Sarah Schenirer never married.