“ we have proof that Avraham paid for the Machpela!!! ”

“ we have proof that Avraham paid for the Machpela!!! ”

“ no you don't.
The statement in the Torah is not a legal document it just tell a story, would not hold up in any court of law

this is sad since,m turkey has been somewhat of a friend to Israel, this could be a sigh that the Islamic fanatics are gaining power in Turkey. And if history repeats itself the army will have to take over the government again ”

“ Erdogan is an Islamic fundamentalist who is trying to steer his historically secular Moslem country in the direction of the rabid Islamic nutballs who run Iran and Saudi Arabia. Historically, the Army and judiciary have been the bulwarks of the secular Turkish state founded by Kemal Attatuk after WWI -- but Erdogan is trying to undermine the Army by making wild charges that top officers are plotting against him, and also the justice system, by having spurious charges brought against a state prosecutor who was investigating Muslim extremists whom Erdogan is cozying up to. Ironically, his drive to Islamicize Turkey may be blunted by, of all people, Europe -- certainly no friends of Israel and WAY too sympathetic to the phony claims of the "Palestinians" -- Europe is starting to (slowly, too slowly) wake up to the dangers of the Muslim immigrants and home-born jihadis refusing to assimilate, carving out their own little Sharia-obeying Muslim satraps (from which they will work to dominate the host countries) and there is great resistance to letting Islamic Turkey into the NATO alliance. Hopefully, Turk voters will realize this clown and his Islam are more trouble than they are worth ”

“ Why didn't the Torah begin with the first mitzvah? So when the goyim come and accuse us of stealing the land, we will respond that the earth belongs to Hashem, and just as he gave it, so too he took it from others and gave it to Yisroel. -Rashi. Its importance to yiddishkeit is obvious by this being the first Rashi. On...ce you know there is a G-d, the next thing is to know ALL of eretz yisroel belongs to yidden! ”

“ Commenters are forgetting that Avraham is the forefather of the Arabs as well. According to ancient tradition, the property should have passed to Yishmael as the eldest son. ”

“ Boycott Terkishe taleisim.
Even Kmoi Terkish.
We'll teach them a lesson! ”

“ Commenters are forgetting that Avraham is the forefather of the Arabs as well. According to ancient tradition, the property should have passed to Yishmael as the eldest son. ”

“ Boycott Terkishe taleisim.
Even Kmoi Terkish.
We'll teach them a lesson! ”

“ Commenters are forgetting that Avraham is the forefather of the Arabs as well. According to ancient tradition, the property should have passed to Yishmael as the eldest son. ”

“ Commenters are forgetting that Avraham is the forefather of the Arabs as well. According to ancient tradition, the property should have passed to Yishmael as the eldest son. ”

“ The building at Machpela was built by King Herod at about the same time as he built the Temple. This guy's just stupid. I say we start to claim that Istanbul is actually part of Finland. ”

“ The building at Machpela was built by King Herod at about the same time as he built the Temple. This guy's just stupid. I say we start to claim that Istanbul is actually part of Finland. ”

“ This is more ridiculous than someone saying the earth is flat! So utterly ridiculous - if ever there was a pure Jewish site and solely Jewish, it is Kever Rachel, the mother of the Jewish nation and of no other! The Cave of the Patriarchs are our fathers and mothers. The only one that is there that has to do with another people, is Avraham Avinu, as he was the father of Yishmael also. The other fathers and mothers are JEWISH only! Yishmael was the son of a concubine, a handmaiden to Avraham's Wife, Sarah, who hasn't the legal rights of a wife and the Torah (Bible) indicates very clearly, that HaShem tells Avraham, 'your son, your only son, Yitzchak. The world is going into spasms of insanity and leaders of nations are going in circles. It is a war against the Creator, the G-D of Israel. Everyone,read the Bible! ”

“ The War with the Muslims goes back since the start of Mohammad (the fake prophet). The Muslims believe that Yishmael was the rightfull continuation of Avraham. This means the story when Avraham Was about to Shecht Yitzchak was really Yishmael. (According to all muzlims) The war Muslims have with us Jews is to deny our history, for it dissproves their religion. ”

“ "The world is going into spasms of insanity and leaders of nations are going in circles. It is a war against the Creator, the G-D of Israel. Everyone,read the Bible!"

Not everyone reads the bible (aka torah) and even those who do may not accept it as the word of G-d as we do so I'm not sure what your point is. The issue is not to convince yiddin that these site are ours. Obviously, we believe they are. The real issue is how we handle the geopolitical aspect of control over these sites and on that issue, EY is doing a lousy job and seem intent on provoking the muslims. ”

“ "The world is going into spasms of insanity and leaders of nations are going in circles. It is a war against the Creator, the G-D of Israel. Everyone,read the Bible!"

Not everyone reads the bible (aka torah) and even those who do may not accept it as the word of G-d as we do so I'm not sure what your point is. The issue is not to convince yiddin that these site are ours. Obviously, we believe they are. The real issue is how we handle the geopolitical aspect of control over these sites and on that issue, EY is doing a lousy job and seem intent on provoking the muslims. ”

“ I say the Greeks should take back Istanbul and reclaim "Byzantium". The Turks can go back and frolic in the Aral Sea where they came from. ”

“ So he is looking for diversions. In next election he will be thrown out by such an embarrasing magnitude.
BTW now is the time for the Kurds [who are Muslims too] to work on their independance from Turkey Iraq Iran seria & azarbeigan. They have a chopped up country. It is time to help them [not the so called Palistinians who were dumped on our land by the Turks] get independance. Now Turkey is weak & using Anti- Israel reterict to geain points, you could tell how bankrupt they really are.
Let us see a Kurdistan, Obama do something good for a segment of your suffering brothers, get Kurdistan established you will go down as a historic leasder.
Go Kurd Go. ”

“ That Pasuk and Rashi can only help us when Moshiach comes and the Goyim accept our Torah. ”

“ When Moshiach comes they will believe us anyway; so why did the Torah start with Bereishis and not with Parshas Boi? The answer says Rashi's father Reb Yitzchok, is because BEFORE Moshiach comes the Goyim will say Listim Atem, and we will answer that G-d gave it to us.

How far have we sunk that for the Shittah, we are willing to misinterpret the Torah. Facts, and even a Rashi don’t matter. ”

“ "The world is going into spasms of insanity and leaders of nations are going in circles. It is a war against the Creator, the G-D of Israel. Everyone,read the Bible!"

Not everyone reads the bible (aka torah) and even those who do may not accept it as the word of G-d as we do so I'm not sure what your point is. The issue is not to convince yiddin that these site are ours. Obviously, we believe they are. The real issue is how we handle the geopolitical aspect of control over these sites and on that issue, EY is doing a lousy job and seem intent on provoking the muslims. ”

“ Commenters are forgetting that Avraham is the forefather of the Arabs as well. According to ancient tradition, the property should have passed to Yishmael as the eldest son. ”