“ Well, if the healthcare bill will rid us of this loudmouthed hatemonger and rabblerouser, I'm all for it! ”

“ Good ridence ”

“ As someone who actually listened to his clarification on his show today (3/9) he meant to say, "If this Monstrosity of Obamacare passes, I will GO to Costa Rica for my healthcare, not MOVE THERE, but purchase surgical services etc. from Costa Rican doctors/hospitals....." On his Monday show, he was not that clear. ”

“ As someone who actually listened to his clarification on his show today (3/9) he meant to say, "If this Monstrosity of Obamacare passes, I will GO to Costa Rica for my healthcare, not MOVE THERE, but purchase surgical services etc. from Costa Rican doctors/hospitals....." On his Monday show, he was not that clear. ”

“ All of you Rush-haters you never lived at a socialist country so you don't know what you are inviting upon yourselves. Great soviet writers Ilf and Petrov were calling that phenomenon "a country of un-scared idiots" ”

“ CBS cut Rush Limbaugh's statement off in the middle. Limbaugh said he would go to Costa Rica for major medical treatment if private health care was outlawed by the Obama legislation. That is exactly what he said. CBS distorted his words because CBS despises Rush Limbaugh and will write anything to make Limbaugh look bad. CBS should lose its broadcasting license for intentionally distorting its news. They are shown to be liars once again. Remember Dan Rather and his fake reporting before the Bush/Gore Election? Fake news reports. Sheker rules at CBS. Disgusting. ”

“ Rush Limbaugh is an ohev yisroel and his values are closer to torah than the krum oisvarfen commenting here. Shame on you. ”

“ He did leave NY after tax hikes so why wouldnt he leave the US? I would if I could find a minyan in CR and schools for my kids. In a heartbeat. The US is on a precipitous decline. Your grandchildren will never be able to pay off the debt Obama and the Democrats put on before we kick them out of office. ”

“ CBS cut Rush Limbaugh's statement off in the middle. Limbaugh said he would go to Costa Rica for major medical treatment if private health care was outlawed by the Obama legislation. That is exactly what he said. CBS distorted his words because CBS despises Rush Limbaugh and will write anything to make Limbaugh look bad. CBS should lose its broadcasting license for intentionally distorting its news. They are shown to be liars once again. Remember Dan Rather and his fake reporting before the Bush/Gore Election? Fake news reports. Sheker rules at CBS. Disgusting. ”

“ show me where it says in the torah that you are allowed to kill people who have different views then you, because that is what he said to do and one of his fanatic listeners actually followed through by killing dr. george tiller ”

“ Well, if the healthcare bill will rid us of this loudmouthed hatemonger and rabblerouser, I'm all for it! ”

“ Costa Rica has government-sponsored universal healthcare. Just like President Obama proposes. So I guess the Obama plan isn't so bad after all! ”

“ He left New York for the good life in Florida, not to a third-world country with a per-capita income of $6900 a year, in which the rich live behind gated walls with security guards in fear of the common folk. You might want to pay a visit to the slums of San Jose before you set sail for a Spanish-speaking tourist playland that has no serious industry other than growing bananas. You would really move there if they just had a good school for your children? Right. Uh huh.

US national debt on January 2001: 5.6 trillion
US national debt on January 2009: 12.3 trillon

Yes; it was "Obama and the Democrats" who put us in this mess. ”

“ I have friends and family members who did live in Socialist countries, and they detest Rush. You don't need to have grown up in America to have values, taste and common sense. ”

“ All of you Rush-haters you never lived at a socialist country so you don't know what you are inviting upon yourselves. Great soviet writers Ilf and Petrov were calling that phenomenon "a country of un-scared idiots" ”

“ Uh, Costa Rica has government sponsored universal health care. Like most sane countries, including Israel. ”

“ Actually he moved from NY to a state without income taxes. He is constantly audited by NY to make sure he wasnt broadcasting from NY.

You were wrong on your numbers. You meant to say JAN 2010!! ”

“ Typical of the MSM. Rush did NOT say he would relocate to Costa Rica, that he would go there for health care -- just like Canadians (including a provincial premier -- the Canadian equivalent of state governor) come here or Brits go to Eastern Europe.

This has happened in EVERY nationalized system: the uber-rich can still afford to get the best health care and the rest get stuck in clinics left lying unattended in their own filth, relying on relatives to bring them food and water (see the recent reports out of Britain).

While America's system is imperfect, it affords the AVERAGE citizen access to the best treatment available. For example, twenty years ago my father -- a working class man -- needed SEXTUPLE bypass surgery. It was performed by the CHIEF cardiac surgeon at THE leading cardiac unit in Miami.

You don't get that in Britain; you get some "doctor" who went to medical school in Pakistan. You don't get that in Canada either: just ask the aforementioned Newfoundland Premier Danny Williams who went to the same hospital for HIS surgery.

In America, not all but MOST people have access to the best. Under socialized systems, only a few get the best and the rest... oh well ”

“ show me where it says in the torah that you are allowed to kill people who have different views then you, because that is what he said to do and one of his fanatic listeners actually followed through by killing dr. george tiller ”

“ How is Costa Rica Sane? Or for that Matter how is the rest of the world sane? We have the highest GDP of any country int he World with the most innovative economy...regardless of the current crisis, our currency is still the most stable and believe it or not is appreciating against most other western countries. Costa Rica's inflation rate is 13.4% vs the US' last 10 years never breaking above 3.85%. Costa Ricas taxes are only lower because of a service adjustment and the inflation arbitrage.
Additionally, because of their lack of a free medical market and rationing, they don't have access to our innovations (even if you had the money to buy it) let alone their own innovations. The only reason Israel, the UK, France, and Germany's systems continue to produce any medical innovations is because they have a consumer and private equity market to fund and than sell the innovations too, that market being the US. Remove the US from the equation by creating a Uni Health care system and even those advanced western countries will stop innovating and producing.
Before you make blanket idiotic statements, I suggest you learn basic economics and study the facts of the equation. ”

“ All of you Rush-haters you never lived at a socialist country so you don't know what you are inviting upon yourselves. Great soviet writers Ilf and Petrov were calling that phenomenon "a country of un-scared idiots" ”

“ You are commandd by torah to kill sodomites and murderers. What Tiller did fulfilled the torah's definitions of murder. The state analyzed the records and almost none were done to save the life of the mother. Unborn babies as old as 8-9 months were slaughtered by him. No halacha could have supported what Tiller did. You are a liberal and your hashkafos are not in line with torah. They are in line with the Communist Manifesto. ”

“ 1) When rated per-capita, the US does not have the highest GDP.

2) The sanity of the Costa Rican health care system is that it has both a public and private option, allowing access to all. I agree that a private equity market is essential to progress, but accessibility cannot be ignored at it's expense.

3) In spite of what you may believe, not all medical innovation comes from the US.
Places like Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, S Korea, and even China, have cutting-edge research and educational programs that rival and are often superior to the US, while also providing access to all.

I do not support "socialized medicine" such as that in Britain, but I do think it is essential that we find a way to provide greater accessibility as in Costa Rica or Israel. ”

“ 1) When rated per-capita, the US does not have the highest GDP.

2) The sanity of the Costa Rican health care system is that it has both a public and private option, allowing access to all. I agree that a private equity market is essential to progress, but accessibility cannot be ignored at it's expense.

3) In spite of what you may believe, not all medical innovation comes from the US.
Places like Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, S Korea, and even China, have cutting-edge research and educational programs that rival and are often superior to the US, while also providing access to all.

I do not support "socialized medicine" such as that in Britain, but I do think it is essential that we find a way to provide greater accessibility as in Costa Rica or Israel. ”

“ 1) When rated per-capita, the US does not have the highest GDP.

2) The sanity of the Costa Rican health care system is that it has both a public and private option, allowing access to all. I agree that a private equity market is essential to progress, but accessibility cannot be ignored at it's expense.

3) In spite of what you may believe, not all medical innovation comes from the US.
Places like Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, S Korea, and even China, have cutting-edge research and educational programs that rival and are often superior to the US, while also providing access to all.

I do not support "socialized medicine" such as that in Britain, but I do think it is essential that we find a way to provide greater accessibility as in Costa Rica or Israel. ”

“ As someone who actually listened to his clarification on his show today (3/9) he meant to say, "If this Monstrosity of Obamacare passes, I will GO to Costa Rica for my healthcare, not MOVE THERE, but purchase surgical services etc. from Costa Rican doctors/hospitals....." On his Monday show, he was not that clear. ”

“ well enjoy your obama care and if god forbid you need treatment you better say vidduy now. the govt is the largest healthcare "insurer" now and they already deny coverage. you think when they get bigger they will approve everything? if you do, YOU ARE DRUNK! ”

“ There has never been any reference made to a "nationalized system" in the current legislation.The proposal currently put forth by congress is to provide health insurance coverage to the uninsured. A nationalized system is one in which the government owns and operates the hospitals and hires doctors directly, but of course, you know that. If uninsured Americans were covered by a government program comparable to Medicare, Medicaid, or the VA, that wouldn't preclude rich citizens from accessing their own private health care services.

To compare a rich citizen in Canada to a rich citizen in the US is foolish.
Canada has a population that is 1/10th of the size of the US, so it is inevitable that the US is going to produce a greater number of top specialists. People from Oregon go to California all the time for specialized care; I hardly see how going from Canada to the US is any different. Of course you neglect to mention that US citizens travel abroad all the time for cheaper care. I know a friend who just went to Israel to get her dental work done.

British doctors are trained in Pakistan? Now you are just foaming at the mouth.
Oxford and Cambridge are not in the Middle East. ”

“ You are commandd by torah to kill sodomites and murderers. What Tiller did fulfilled the torah's definitions of murder. The state analyzed the records and almost none were done to save the life of the mother. Unborn babies as old as 8-9 months were slaughtered by him. No halacha could have supported what Tiller did. You are a liberal and your hashkafos are not in line with torah. They are in line with the Communist Manifesto. ”

“ You are commandd by torah to kill sodomites and murderers. What Tiller did fulfilled the torah's definitions of murder. The state analyzed the records and almost none were done to save the life of the mother. Unborn babies as old as 8-9 months were slaughtered by him. No halacha could have supported what Tiller did. You are a liberal and your hashkafos are not in line with torah. They are in line with the Communist Manifesto. ”

“ How is Costa Rica Sane? Or for that Matter how is the rest of the world sane? We have the highest GDP of any country int he World with the most innovative economy...regardless of the current crisis, our currency is still the most stable and believe it or not is appreciating against most other western countries. Costa Rica's inflation rate is 13.4% vs the US' last 10 years never breaking above 3.85%. Costa Ricas taxes are only lower because of a service adjustment and the inflation arbitrage.
Additionally, because of their lack of a free medical market and rationing, they don't have access to our innovations (even if you had the money to buy it) let alone their own innovations. The only reason Israel, the UK, France, and Germany's systems continue to produce any medical innovations is because they have a consumer and private equity market to fund and than sell the innovations too, that market being the US. Remove the US from the equation by creating a Uni Health care system and even those advanced western countries will stop innovating and producing.
Before you make blanket idiotic statements, I suggest you learn basic economics and study the facts of the equation. ”

“ Last I checked, Costa Rica has universal health care, as does every industrialized country on earth. When left-wingers threaten to leave the country they have plenty of like-minded places to go. Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Great Britain, even Israel just to name a few. When right-wingers threaten to leave the country, they have nowhere to go except for maybe the Cayman Islands. Rush is getting desperate with his empty threats. ”

“ My wife is a physician and all of her patients have government insurance, mainly New York State Medicaid. I asked her how often it denied coverage. In the 4 1/2 years she has practices in NY, the only thing they have ever asked her to do was to prescribe a different drug of the same class, one that was on their formulary. She has NEVER had Medicaid deny coverage for a procedure or treatment she had reccommended. When she treated patients with private insurance she got denials of coverage all the time and was constantly on the phone arguing with them. ”

“ Typical of the MSM. Rush did NOT say he would relocate to Costa Rica, that he would go there for health care -- just like Canadians (including a provincial premier -- the Canadian equivalent of state governor) come here or Brits go to Eastern Europe.

This has happened in EVERY nationalized system: the uber-rich can still afford to get the best health care and the rest get stuck in clinics left lying unattended in their own filth, relying on relatives to bring them food and water (see the recent reports out of Britain).

While America's system is imperfect, it affords the AVERAGE citizen access to the best treatment available. For example, twenty years ago my father -- a working class man -- needed SEXTUPLE bypass surgery. It was performed by the CHIEF cardiac surgeon at THE leading cardiac unit in Miami.

You don't get that in Britain; you get some "doctor" who went to medical school in Pakistan. You don't get that in Canada either: just ask the aforementioned Newfoundland Premier Danny Williams who went to the same hospital for HIS surgery.

In America, not all but MOST people have access to the best. Under socialized systems, only a few get the best and the rest... oh well ”

“ Add much of Europe to your list of innovative countries; some of the most important medical research comes from there. ”

“ Its irrelevant, the government can nationalize healthcare without creating a public option...In a way they already do, every state has insurance regulations that require minimum services and care in order to gain a license to operate in that state. In this they become a de facto partner. By requiring the companies to offer any service or minimum care coverage they distort pricing and underwriting. Which will logically raise premiums and force policy holders to lose coverage through natural selection. The US is not producing more specialists simply because of population density, that is an idiotic thing to say. China, India have more people in higher population density (generally a factor for increasing collaboration and education) and they dont produce as many or as high quality as the US. Besides Canadians don't come here because of superior service (which is probably a factor but not the sole factor). They come here because of rationed care. Because there is 4.5 MRI machines per million population in Canada and 16 in the US (and in a much bigger population as you pointed out yourself. ”

“ I would move there if i could, ! Why stay here? your still are going to have to pay for medical services you are not use! every year .... it will be a monstrosity , and new federal bureaucracy with a new tax that supposed to pay for it.

any time government gets bigger our freedoms get become less. ”

“ The CIA World Factbook lists the US as #10 or #12 in per capita GDP, depending on how you adjust for currency values.

France in particular has a fabulous health system. ”

“ Its irrelevant, the government can nationalize healthcare without creating a public option...In a way they already do, every state has insurance regulations that require minimum services and care in order to gain a license to operate in that state. In this they become a de facto partner. By requiring the companies to offer any service or minimum care coverage they distort pricing and underwriting. Which will logically raise premiums and force policy holders to lose coverage through natural selection. The US is not producing more specialists simply because of population density, that is an idiotic thing to say. China, India have more people in higher population density (generally a factor for increasing collaboration and education) and they dont produce as many or as high quality as the US. Besides Canadians don't come here because of superior service (which is probably a factor but not the sole factor). They come here because of rationed care. Because there is 4.5 MRI machines per million population in Canada and 16 in the US (and in a much bigger population as you pointed out yourself. ”

“ As a percentage of the Federal Budget Medicaid alone was 7% (7% of $3 Trillion or $210 Billion) in 2009. This doesn't include what New York State Contributes. Everyone is so concerned as you have proven with how much they will lose through rationing and your response is that nothing will be lost...look at my anecdotal evidence, The New York State Budget has a projected $9 billion shortfall in the next 13 months. Primarily this is caused by entitlement programs and bloated pension and retirees health benefits. The fact that up until now Medicaid was great because New York (and of course the Federal Government) was able to borrow cheaply is not proof that these services wont be cut or rationed when you double the number of people enrolling. ”

“ Can and will are two separate things. You aren't addressing my claim that rich people can access their own private health care system regardless of government insurance policy.

China and India are dishonest examples. Both countries are poor, undereducated, and mostly third-world, although China is slowly catching up. Canada on the other hand is a first-world educated society, so the comparison is apt.

As far as Canadians coming to the US is concerned, I was responded to the claim that a Canadian political came here, and it was more than likely because of the quality of the particular care he needed, not because he couldn't receive care in his home country. Of course for people without health insurance, rationed care is better than no care at all, which is precisely why you choose to ignore the reality that people migrate out of this country all the time to receive more affordable care, and instead focus on the people migrating in.

Its really quite simple: for people who can afford it, the US has the best health care system bar none. For those who cannot afford it, it is the worst. ”

“ The US government spends that much money in Iraq alone per year, and I don't hear anyone on the Right complaining. If you eliminated or even reduced the immense fraud in these programs, they would be perfectly feasible. It's all a matter of priorities. ”

“ What Tiller did is not sanctioned by the Torah; Noachides are obligated to have a court system rather than vigilate justice. Tiller is the murderer here. ”

“ I am aware that Rush moved to Florida because it is a no-income-tax-state, but that doesn't change the point: Florida is a step up; Costa Rica is a a step down.

Thanks for telling me what I meant to say. I referenced 2001 and 2009 for they mark the beginning of the Bush and Obama presidencies. The figures are from the Wikipedia page titled "United States Public Debt," and they are perfectly accurate.
The 2010 national debt is estimated at 14.4 trillion which includes a 1.2 billion dollar deficit from the prior administration, and an 800 billion dollar stimulus package.
You can attempt to revise history all you'd like, but the numbers don't lie. ”

“ If that's what you are commanded to do, why don't you go to one of the many gay neighbors, bars, clubs etc and shoot the place up? ”

“ If that's what you are commanded to do, why don't you go to one of the many gay neighbors, bars, clubs etc and shoot the place up? ”

“ The US government spends that much money in Iraq alone per year, and I don't hear anyone on the Right complaining. If you eliminated or even reduced the immense fraud in these programs, they would be perfectly feasible. It's all a matter of priorities. ”

“ Boy do you have some serious problems with your numbers. Although, I can see how one could be confused by the wikipedia article. Debt and Deficit are 2 completely different things, and are barely related. Deficit is based on what was spent vs. what was projected. It does not necessarily mean that "debt" was or was not incurred. Apples and oranges. For example, Bush had plenty of deficits early on, but paid for them with the surplus money from the Clinton years. While he wasted billions of dollars, he did not actually incur that much debt.

That being said, the reason why the 2009 number is somewhat misleading is because Obama did not create or sign the 2009 budget. Bush did. The $1.4 TRILLION net deficit that so many liars like to quote for 2009 when they blame Obama is actually from Bush.

On average, we're not doing THAT badly on increases in the national debt (esp. considering we're in 2 wars). 1971-1980 was 131% increase. 1981-1990 was 252% increase. 1991-2000 was 76% increase. 2001-2010 (2010 est. at $14.45 trillion) will be 150%.

The phony outrage is just that.. phony. ”

“ In any case, crimes that are bein odom lachavero are up to a court, or to Hashem Himself to take care of. But when a person is routinely committing murder, and the law won't stop him, someone has to do something. Every possible legal means to stop Tiller had been tried, and it had failed. So he had to be stopped permanently. ”

“ He left New York for the good life in Florida, not to a third-world country with a per-capita income of $6900 a year, in which the rich live behind gated walls with security guards in fear of the common folk. You might want to pay a visit to the slums of San Jose before you set sail for a Spanish-speaking tourist playland that has no serious industry other than growing bananas. You would really move there if they just had a good school for your children? Right. Uh huh.

US national debt on January 2001: 5.6 trillion
US national debt on January 2009: 12.3 trillon

Yes; it was "Obama and the Democrats" who put us in this mess. ”

“ I'm failing to see how this is supposed to encourage Democrats to oppose the legislation. ”

“ The budget deficit is projected to add another 9 TRILLION of debt over the next 10 years. From the OMB report last month:The White House Office of Management and Budget’s Mid-Session Review, an annual update between budgets, put the 10-year deficit estimate at $9.051 trillion, up from the previously projected $7 trillion. The administration had leaked the figure over the weekend. And thats being optimistic! ”

“ Idiots don't attack rush limbaugh he is very pro jewish ”