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(file photo)London - Hackney Council has ordered the closure of a 260-pupil strictly Orthodox girls’ school in Stamford Hill.
The council has issued an enforcement notice against Beis Trana School in Upper Clapton Road, giving it until August to stop using the school and play area and to remove play equipment and portacabins.
Five years ago, the council refused retrospective planning permission for the development of the rear gardens of four houses as play areas for the school, which educates from nursery age up to 16. The decision was appealed and dismissed but the school “failed to stop use as a play area”.
In 2008, retrospective planning permission for the school was also refused and an appeal rejected on the ground that “unauthorised use of the site as a school and play area is harmful to the amenity of the occupiers of the adjoining properties by reason of noise, nuisance and disturbance”.
The school appealed an enforcement notice served in March 2009 but it was dismissed last month.
A teacher at the school said: “The council are making a great mistake and are not enabling us to educate our children.
“It’s a great shame. The students behave beautifully and the neighbours have never called the police. These children will be a pride to society. Discussions are under way for future plans but we don’t want to disclose them.”
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Mar 11, 2010 at 06:30 PM A. Nuran Says:Report as Inappropriate
Five years of appeals.
Five years of fees in the bank.
Five years of disobeying the law.
Five years of learning that it isn't always easier to get forgiveness than permission.
And finally the bill comes due.
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Mar 11, 2010 at 07:08 PM Retired News Says:Report as Inappropriate
What kind of Goverment is runing that country? destruing education will lead to more problems. special jews which are extremely productive people and always bringing solution not problems everywhere in the world.
BAD DECISION
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Mar 11, 2010 at 07:16 PM Rivka Says:Report as Inappropriate
Is this article a re-run. This story seems to reappear every few days. Why don't yidden just follow the zoning laws?
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Mar 11, 2010 at 07:29 PM LIBERALISM IS A DISEASE!!!! Says:Report as Inappropriate
If the teacher's quote was accurate, the education level in that school is uch un vey!
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Mar 11, 2010 at 08:14 PM Leisure Center Says:Report as Inappropriate
This school is the pride and joy of the neighborhood. Next door we have the Muslim girls only school , on the corner of Filey Avenue. Those girls are hooligans and physically hurt our children.
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Mar 11, 2010 at 08:43 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Has this week been designated as "Arrogant Yiddin" week since it seems almost every day there is another story of similiar efforts by yiddeshe mosdos to ignore the building codes and zoning laws and just do what they want without no regard to dinah d'malchusah. It is the ultimate arrogance to assume that simply because they are pursuing a torah-based agenda in the buildings (yeshiva, beis medrash, shul, mikvah or shlcachthois)that somehow warrants ignoring the law.
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Mar 11, 2010 at 08:51 PM it isnt easy asd you think Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Is this article a re-run. This story seems to reappear every few days. Why don't yidden just follow the zoning laws? ”
Because they will never get the approvals needed!!this happens all the time,there isn't enough room in our neighborhoods!
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Mar 11, 2010 at 08:59 PM Muslims did it? Says:Report as Inappropriate
So maybe the muslims agitated about it?!
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Mar 11, 2010 at 09:33 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Because they will never get the approvals needed!!this happens all the time,there isn't enough room in our neighborhoods! ”
That's the problem. Trying to put schools in residential neighborhoods. For some things you have to go outside the neighborhood.
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Mar 11, 2010 at 09:50 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ That's the problem. Trying to put schools in residential neighborhoods. For some things you have to go outside the neighborhood. ”
They are not talking about a schlachthous or a mikvah which obviously don't belong in a residential neighborhood. They are talking about a beis yaakov..
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Mar 11, 2010 at 10:15 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
And why don't a mikveh and a school belong in a residential neighborhood?
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Mar 12, 2010 at 12:30 AM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ They are not talking about a schlachthous or a mikvah which obviously don't belong in a residential neighborhood. They are talking about a beis yaakov.. ”
A mikveh doesn't belong in a residential neighbourhood?! Where ELSE does it belong? It HAS to be where people live, so women can walk there safely both during the week and on Shabbos.
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Mar 12, 2010 at 12:47 AM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Five years of appeals.
Five years of fees in the bank.
Five years of disobeying the law.
Five years of learning that it isn't always easier to get forgiveness than permission.
And finally the bill comes due. ”
And five years that the school operated, five years of chinuch al taharas hakodesh; even if this gezera can't be averted, wasn't it worth it just for those five years? And who knows, maybe they'll be able to find some way around this time too, and continue for another five years. What a wonderful thing that would be. And what a terrible sin it would have been to close five years ago, merely because of some regulation. Anyone who would have made them close five years ago would have had a terrible sin on his head; I can just imagine trying to explain before the Kisei Hakovod that "it was the law". What is the law, compared to five years of yiddishe kinder receiving a kosher chinuch? Do you think they give two figs Above about the law?
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Mar 12, 2010 at 05:56 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
To all of you in the US who like to criticize:
Please be aware that we live in a city that was built with a place for a public school in every area otherwise all buildings are residential so how can we have privet schools if there aren’t any available?
Last week on VIN you read about a privet Muslim school who sold their building for educational purposes only and a big housing company bought it and is now applying to build luxury apartments while we don’t have suitable places to house our schools!
So what Beis Trana School did was they bought a former Bed & Breakfast (hotel) which contains four big houses with the hopes that the council will grant them planning, and now because of the Anti-Semite country we live in they were not granted permission.
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Mar 12, 2010 at 06:18 AM Stoke Newington Says:Report as Inappropriate
This is NOT a case of discrimination against London Jews - let's get that quite clear from the outset. It IS a case of scofflaw, charedi, London Jews thinking that they know better than the educational authorities, that the planning laws do NOT apply to them, that they could IGNORE every request, demand and letter sent to them by the local council - in short: that they are BETTER than everyone else.
The London Borough of Hackney, in which Beis Trana School is located, has over 130 years experience of dealing with charedi Jews resident there. Several local yiddn are on the town council, some on the Planning Committee, which is responsible for building laws and zoning. So any thoughts of institutional anti-semitism against Beis Trana School can be discounted immediately.
Beis Trana School Limited (a company only established last July) can blame no person and no organisation for the 'broch' it has incurred - other than the company's directors themselves.
The sooner Jews - all over the world - realize and learn that they are NOT exempt from the laws of their countries the better it will be for all of us - yiddn and goyim alike.
A gut Shabbes to all!
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Mar 12, 2010 at 06:24 AM Stoke Newington Says:Report as Inappropriate
For the avoidance of any remaining doubt, there are many schools within the London Borough of Hackney, of which Stamford Hill forms part, that are exclusively Jewish. Most of these receive funding, either from Hackney Council, or directly from the UK Department of Education.
Beis Trana, for whatever reason, seems to prefer to remain outside the English education system which is in itself somewhat unusual, given the money and grants on offer.
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Mar 12, 2010 at 07:19 AM Me Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Is this article a re-run. This story seems to reappear every few days. Why don't yidden just follow the zoning laws? ”
Because if we did, there would be no schools anywhere!!
Wherever you look there are houses with people living in them. Who has the money to purchase vacant land to build a school?
Even if you COULD find an empty parcel of land in Stamford Hill, there would be no chance of buying it, because each and every parcel that becomes available is snapped up by the large house building coporations.
The only place left in hackney or haringey to build schools is on the common or in the parks. Failing that, we turn houses into schools. We dont have a choice!
And even the council go against us. The only school premises which becomes available in Stamford Hill in 20 plus years is sold by the council to whom? Yes you guessed right. A publicly listed property corporation. Yup, a company which will pay the council millions of pounds in "improvements towards local services", i.e. a legal form of bribery. A way for the council to get somebody else to pay for services which they shoudl be providing. Leaving our kids to be tossed out of the only buildings they have available to them.
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Mar 12, 2010 at 07:37 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Five years of appeals.
Five years of fees in the bank.
Five years of disobeying the law.
Five years of learning that it isn't always easier to get forgiveness than permission.
And finally the bill comes due. ”
What school does your daughter go to?
On second thoughts you haven't got one. You wouldn't talk like that if you did.
If you do have, poor girl(s)
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Mar 12, 2010 at 12:15 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ For the avoidance of any remaining doubt, there are many schools within the London Borough of Hackney, of which Stamford Hill forms part, that are exclusively Jewish. Most of these receive funding, either from Hackney Council, or directly from the UK Department of Education.
Beis Trana, for whatever reason, seems to prefer to remain outside the English education system which is in itself somewhat unusual, given the money and grants on offer. ”
Problem with being part of the 'english education system' and receiving money from them, is that you then have to conform to their rules and regulations about what secular subjects you teach and how to teach them. Not all subject matter is appropriate for the chassidishe world and thus our schools are private and receive no government funding.
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Mar 12, 2010 at 12:19 PM David Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Because if we did, there would be no schools anywhere!!
Wherever you look there are houses with people living in them. Who has the money to purchase vacant land to build a school?
Even if you COULD find an empty parcel of land in Stamford Hill, there would be no chance of buying it, because each and every parcel that becomes available is snapped up by the large house building coporations.
The only place left in hackney or haringey to build schools is on the common or in the parks. Failing that, we turn houses into schools. We dont have a choice!
And even the council go against us. The only school premises which becomes available in Stamford Hill in 20 plus years is sold by the council to whom? Yes you guessed right. A publicly listed property corporation. Yup, a company which will pay the council millions of pounds in "improvements towards local services", i.e. a legal form of bribery. A way for the council to get somebody else to pay for services which they shoudl be providing. Leaving our kids to be tossed out of the only buildings they have available to them. ”
Baloney. You don't get to decide that the laws don't apply to you just because you find them inconvenient. Grow up, and realize that, contrary to what your rebbe may have told you, the world doesn't revolve around your little issues, nor does it need to come to a screeching halt to acommodate you.
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Mar 12, 2010 at 01:59 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
You can't compare the demand for a school in a crowded city with a Chabad buying a private home in a stam neighborhood to open a kiruv shul. They are apples and oranges.
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Mar 12, 2010 at 05:10 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Baloney. You don't get to decide that the laws don't apply to you just because you find them inconvenient. Grow up, and realize that, contrary to what your rebbe may have told you, the world doesn't revolve around your little issues, nor does it need to come to a screeching halt to acommodate you. ”
Yes, we do. You should grow up and realise that we live in Hashem's world, which was created for no other purpose than that yidden should keep the Torah; and our yiddishkeit is far more important than any law or regulation.
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Mar 12, 2010 at 05:12 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ That's the problem. Trying to put schools in residential neighborhoods. For some things you have to go outside the neighborhood. ”
Are you insane? Where ELSE does a school belong, but in a residential neighbourhood? The kids live in the neighbourhood; where else should they go to school? Some industrial zone miles away?! Schools are an essential amenity in residential neighbourhoods, and that is exactly where they belong. Where the kids can walk to school and back.
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Mar 13, 2010 at 03:32 PM Stamford Hill Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ For the avoidance of any remaining doubt, there are many schools within the London Borough of Hackney, of which Stamford Hill forms part, that are exclusively Jewish. Most of these receive funding, either from Hackney Council, or directly from the UK Department of Education.
Beis Trana, for whatever reason, seems to prefer to remain outside the English education system which is in itself somewhat unusual, given the money and grants on offer. ”
As you know, there is no such thing as a free lunch, Any grants etc. that the moisdois received carry a price tag and B"H there are still some erliche yidden running erliche moisdois that won't accept what is ultimately just a bribe.
G-D bless Beis Trana and all her ilk.
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Mar 13, 2010 at 09:45 PM DAVID COHEN Says:Report as Inappropriate
To David and Stoke Newington
If it was not for Chabad in particular and for Rebbeim's emphasis on Jewish education thousands of youth would have lost their soul and end up like these Yidden on the town council who feel the need to apologize for being Jews. They would have preferred just being like everyone else, "British".
Learn the perseverance, the pride and the necessity of doing the RIGHT thing and not the politically correct thing. Stop apologizing. stop criticizing and make sure that any educational institution gets on the right track. if Karl Marx, Trotsky and the sort would have had an Orthodox education thousands of Jews would not have died Goyim.
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Mar 13, 2010 at 09:52 PM sima bronchtein Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Baloney. You don't get to decide that the laws don't apply to you just because you find them inconvenient. Grow up, and realize that, contrary to what your rebbe may have told you, the world doesn't revolve around your little issues, nor does it need to come to a screeching halt to acommodate you. ”
you are nothing but a misnaged who have hatred in the heart
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Mar 14, 2010 at 11:50 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ For the avoidance of any remaining doubt, there are many schools within the London Borough of Hackney, of which Stamford Hill forms part, that are exclusively Jewish. Most of these receive funding, either from Hackney Council, or directly from the UK Department of Education.
Beis Trana, for whatever reason, seems to prefer to remain outside the English education system which is in itself somewhat unusual, given the money and grants on offer. ”
not true. only one frum school receives funding.