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Toronto - Just in time for the big pre-Passover cleanup, SpongeTowels Ultra  have been certified kosher.

Many standard paper towels are glued to the tube with an adhesive containing starch that is not kosher for Passover for Ashkenazi Jews. They would have to avoid at least the last sheet, but now they don’t have to worry about any contamination. No non-kosher animal by-products are used in the manufacturing of the paper towels, either.

During Passover, corn, legumes and rice (known as kitniyot) are prohibited for Ashkenazi Jews (from Central and Eastern Europe). They are permissible for Sephardic Jews (Middle Eastern background).

The Kashruth Council of Canada  inspected the factory in Crabtree, Que., and certified the towels kosher. The maker, Kruger Products, says the change is a response to consumer demand. Suggested retail price is $7.99 for six rolls.



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1

 Mar 16, 2010 at 01:25 PM oh, goodie Says:

Every time I make a paper towel kugel for Pesach, I feel a little guilty.

What's next, certifying oxygen?

2

 Mar 16, 2010 at 01:28 PM Anonymous Says:

Religion gone wild.
The focus of what is "really" important has completely shifted from the serious issues like honesty, middos, and working on being a good person - and, instead we now focus on whether or not the last sheet of the paper towel roll has kitniyos???
Wow - we need to hit the re-set button ...

3

 Mar 16, 2010 at 01:28 PM rebbe Says:

what other gimmik we have to make money
and we all fall for that
there is now kosher lepesach internet

4

 Mar 16, 2010 at 01:38 PM Anonymous Says:

Just another example of how frum priorities are so out of whack.

Shady business dealings, cheating the government, yeshivas flaunting zoning laws, ostentatious spending, and public chilul Hashems on practically a weekly basis are minor problems that don't need much attention, but THIS is a major breakthrough! Putting a "hechser" on something that never needed one to begin with???

What a joke.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 01:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
oh, goodie Says:

Every time I make a paper towel kugel for Pesach, I feel a little guilty.

What's next, certifying oxygen?

Lol you made my day

6

 Mar 16, 2010 at 01:52 PM Anonymous Says:

JUST what we were missing... Now we can have a chag kasher....

7

 Mar 16, 2010 at 01:53 PM Anonymous Says:

This is almost as important as having a hechsher on water, soap, detergents, tin foil, and plastic bags!!!

And if you are stupid enough to think that any of the items listed needs a hashgocha, you know nothing about kashrus. You're just gullible enough to believe the kosher companies that say you "should have it".

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 01:56 PM Kosher eater Says:

Reply to #1  
oh, goodie Says:

Every time I make a paper towel kugel for Pesach, I feel a little guilty.

What's next, certifying oxygen?

If someone puts hot or wet food on a napkin or paper towel that's non kosher, the food becomes non kosher as a result, go learn some halachos before poking jokes on a serious matter.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 01:58 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
oh, goodie Says:

Every time I make a paper towel kugel for Pesach, I feel a little guilty.

What's next, certifying oxygen?

Perhaps we should look into the oxygen issue.

Oxygen is a key component of Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)a chemical that is linked to thousands of deaths each year. I think it is also a key component in acid rain.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 01:59 PM Ignorance? Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

Religion gone wild.
The focus of what is "really" important has completely shifted from the serious issues like honesty, middos, and working on being a good person - and, instead we now focus on whether or not the last sheet of the paper towel roll has kitniyos???
Wow - we need to hit the re-set button ...

Unfortunately, you appear to have little knowledge of the Jewish religion, you can gain a lot by learning some Torah. if you don't understand loshon hakodesh, you can get help online..

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 02:02 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

Religion gone wild.
The focus of what is "really" important has completely shifted from the serious issues like honesty, middos, and working on being a good person - and, instead we now focus on whether or not the last sheet of the paper towel roll has kitniyos???
Wow - we need to hit the re-set button ...

In "our" religion, Kashrus is as "important" and "serious" as middos!
if food comes in contact with kitniyos on Pesach, it we be ruled not kosher for pesach (for ashkenazim).
Pesach in general has more strict codes and guidelines than year round, and rabbonim and dayanim are much more machmir on any thing that has to do with pesach.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 02:04 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

Just another example of how frum priorities are so out of whack.

Shady business dealings, cheating the government, yeshivas flaunting zoning laws, ostentatious spending, and public chilul Hashems on practically a weekly basis are minor problems that don't need much attention, but THIS is a major breakthrough! Putting a "hechser" on something that never needed one to begin with???

What a joke.

Does your comment make you feel better on your general freia behavior?

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 02:06 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
Anonymous Says:

This is almost as important as having a hechsher on water, soap, detergents, tin foil, and plastic bags!!!

And if you are stupid enough to think that any of the items listed needs a hashgocha, you know nothing about kashrus. You're just gullible enough to believe the kosher companies that say you "should have it".

Any item that may have contact with food on Passover DOES NEED A HECHSHER!!

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 02:07 PM Anonymous Says:

However stupid this may be, it did achieve achdus. A rare occasion for us all to agree about something!

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 02:12 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

Just another example of how frum priorities are so out of whack.

Shady business dealings, cheating the government, yeshivas flaunting zoning laws, ostentatious spending, and public chilul Hashems on practically a weekly basis are minor problems that don't need much attention, but THIS is a major breakthrough! Putting a "hechser" on something that never needed one to begin with???

What a joke.

Take it easy!!
Are YOU cheating the government? are YOU flaunting zoning laws? are YOU causing chilul hashem?
Maybe.
However, I don't! and I am makpid on eating strictly kosher!
So why do you making such ignorant comments, and statements that don't make sense at all.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 02:13 PM Anonymous Says:

Why is it foolish to make sure your not soaking up your latkes with glue that has chumetz in it. Chumets is even a moshehu?

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 02:15 PM Back to Learn Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

Just another example of how frum priorities are so out of whack.

Shady business dealings, cheating the government, yeshivas flaunting zoning laws, ostentatious spending, and public chilul Hashems on practically a weekly basis are minor problems that don't need much attention, but THIS is a major breakthrough! Putting a "hechser" on something that never needed one to begin with???

What a joke.

Some commentators here are just simple am ha'aratzim, it's obvious from the first few comments that they have no knowledge of hilchos pesach, and very little knowledge in kashrus and Torah all in all.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 02:24 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Kosher eater Says:

If someone puts hot or wet food on a napkin or paper towel that's non kosher, the food becomes non kosher as a result, go learn some halachos before poking jokes on a serious matter.

You are correct - but why would a paper towel be non kosher in the first place???

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 02:27 PM if i may Says:

I know what many of you will answer to this question($$$$). But honestly why are the kashrut org. giving their hasgacha for these items.
1) It makes them look silly.
2)We are talking about big Rabbis here, not your average business entrepreneurs.

20

 Mar 16, 2010 at 02:28 PM Anonymous Says:

We use kosher aluminum foil so why not kosher paper towels.

21

 Mar 16, 2010 at 02:45 PM Kashrus Pro Says:

Shoyn! Another gullible company getting hashgocha on something that doesn't need hashgocha.

I wonder if COR was 100% honest with the company by telling them they don't need hashgocha.

I am wondering if the paper towels are certified as Shmura M'shas K'tzira???

22

 Mar 16, 2010 at 03:09 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
Anonymous Says:

You are correct - but why would a paper towel be non kosher in the first place???

Pleas read the article..

23

 Mar 16, 2010 at 03:30 PM mt mehdi Says:

"Many standard paper towels are glued to the tube with an adhesive containing starch that is not kosher for Passover for Ashkenazi Jews"

that means: kitniyos - not real chometz. THERE IS NO SUCH CHUMRA TO AVOID COMING IN CONTACT WITH KITNIYOS. THIS IS A NEW MISHAGOS.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 03:30 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
Anonymous Says:

You are correct - but why would a paper towel be non kosher in the first place???

Because of the ingredients used to produce or stiffen it.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 03:42 PM cranberry stuffer Says:

actually, the COR did this as a service for the Canadian community. They asked a very minimal fee, and kruger changed one of its glues. Now ppl in Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal, don't have to spend triple on paper towels with a heimishe hechsher.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 03:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Kosher eater Says:

If someone puts hot or wet food on a napkin or paper towel that's non kosher, the food becomes non kosher as a result, go learn some halachos before poking jokes on a serious matter.

The only part in question on paper towels is the starch, which is in maybe the first two pieces and the last. All one has to do is not use those few pieces.

27

 Mar 16, 2010 at 03:50 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
Anonymous Says:

We use kosher aluminum foil so why not kosher paper towels.

Aluminum foil needs a hechsher because of oils that can be used in processing and to coat them.

28

 Mar 16, 2010 at 04:01 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #23  
mt mehdi Says:

"Many standard paper towels are glued to the tube with an adhesive containing starch that is not kosher for Passover for Ashkenazi Jews"

that means: kitniyos - not real chometz. THERE IS NO SUCH CHUMRA TO AVOID COMING IN CONTACT WITH KITNIYOS. THIS IS A NEW MISHAGOS.

it's not a chumra, its simple halacha! this is no mesugaas, it's leading a kosher life.

29

 Mar 16, 2010 at 04:04 PM Hashgacha Says:

And for your information:
many napkins with a print may have an even more serious concern of real chomeitz, so if you want to bring your food in contact with a napkin or paper towel, take ONLY one with a reliable hashgacha.

30

 Mar 16, 2010 at 04:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Kosher eater Says:

If someone puts hot or wet food on a napkin or paper towel that's non kosher, the food becomes non kosher as a result, go learn some halachos before poking jokes on a serious matter.

NOT TRUE - the glue is not eatable by a dog - therfore not chometz and not a problem - check it out! All paper towels may be used - sorry for the "frummies"

31

 Mar 16, 2010 at 04:14 PM Anonymous Says:

We have reached an new level of amaratzus!!

32

 Mar 16, 2010 at 04:22 PM china Says:

Reply to #20  
Anonymous Says:

We use kosher aluminum foil so why not kosher paper towels.

i am importer of aluminum foil and we all buy from the same factory
there was never rabbi or mashgiach in the factory in china
and also in all other disposible items as well ,there is never rabbi or mashgiach at the time when goods are manufactured and not before either
the only diference is that there is a rubber stamp on the product and they charge you more money
it really is a sham on the rabbis who sell their neschomoh for few dollars

33

 Mar 16, 2010 at 04:31 PM Torah Truth Says:

Reply to #8  
Kosher eater Says:

If someone puts hot or wet food on a napkin or paper towel that's non kosher, the food becomes non kosher as a result, go learn some halachos before poking jokes on a serious matter.

Talk about learn some Halachah... first of all during the year it is Nosain Tam L'fgam so there is no issue. Even if it were not, it would be Battel. On Pesach where Bittul doesn't help it would not be Raoi Lachilas Kelev so again it would not be an issue..

34

 Mar 16, 2010 at 04:34 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Kosher eater Says:

If someone puts hot or wet food on a napkin or paper towel that's non kosher, the food becomes non kosher as a result, go learn some halachos before poking jokes on a serious matter.

i called the OU and they said it is non sense so for you to go start talking about halacha, your the one that doesn't know the difference between a donkey and a

35

 Mar 16, 2010 at 04:35 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Kosher eater Says:

If someone puts hot or wet food on a napkin or paper towel that's non kosher, the food becomes non kosher as a result, go learn some halachos before poking jokes on a serious matter.

I can now eat the paper towel. We are closer to Moshiach now

36

 Mar 16, 2010 at 04:44 PM JLan Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

In "our" religion, Kashrus is as "important" and "serious" as middos!
if food comes in contact with kitniyos on Pesach, it we be ruled not kosher for pesach (for ashkenazim).
Pesach in general has more strict codes and guidelines than year round, and rabbonim and dayanim are much more machmir on any thing that has to do with pesach.

In "our" religion we know that while chametz on Pesach is never batel, kitniyot are considered batel b'rov, and that there's absolutely no halachic problem with food coming into contact with kitniyot, provided that you're not actually eating the kitniyot. You can even feel free to go over to your Sephardic friend's house and eat non-kitniyot food cooked in his cookware that was used for kitniyot and on his plates and with utensils that were used for kitniyot.

37

 Mar 16, 2010 at 05:01 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #21  
Kashrus Pro Says:

Shoyn! Another gullible company getting hashgocha on something that doesn't need hashgocha.

I wonder if COR was 100% honest with the company by telling them they don't need hashgocha.

I am wondering if the paper towels are certified as Shmura M'shas K'tzira???

i hope you dont use Bounty paper towels for your latkes,

38

 Mar 16, 2010 at 05:02 PM Milhouse Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

In "our" religion, Kashrus is as "important" and "serious" as middos!
if food comes in contact with kitniyos on Pesach, it we be ruled not kosher for pesach (for ashkenazim).
Pesach in general has more strict codes and guidelines than year round, and rabbonim and dayanim are much more machmir on any thing that has to do with pesach.

Actually, if food comes into contact with kitniyos there is no problem. Whatever kitniyos it may have absorbed is botel. But who's to say that the glue is not chometz, chas vesholom? That's why a hechsher is useful.

39

 Mar 16, 2010 at 05:03 PM Milhouse Says:

Reply to #18  
Anonymous Says:

You are correct - but why would a paper towel be non kosher in the first place???

Have you read the article? Because of the glue that connects it to the tube.

40

 Mar 16, 2010 at 05:06 PM Milhouse Says:

Reply to #33  
Torah Truth Says:

Talk about learn some Halachah... first of all during the year it is Nosain Tam L'fgam so there is no issue. Even if it were not, it would be Battel. On Pesach where Bittul doesn't help it would not be Raoi Lachilas Kelev so again it would not be an issue..

How do you know glue is not ro'uy la'achilas kelev?

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 05:34 PM Knowledgeable Says:

Reply to #33  
Torah Truth Says:

Talk about learn some Halachah... first of all during the year it is Nosain Tam L'fgam so there is no issue. Even if it were not, it would be Battel. On Pesach where Bittul doesn't help it would not be Raoi Lachilas Kelev so again it would not be an issue..

Even if were not noisain taam lifgam it would make no difference. The issur of mashehu is only in Pesach. Providing it was in the ownership of a yid before the zman biur it becomes bottul and as it was bottul bizman hetter it is not choizer veniur in Pesach even if it is roih leachilas kelev. Actually it is ok till nightfall because on Erev Pesach chometz is like other issurim i.e. bottul beshishim etc.

If not for this rule there would be NO kosher lepesach manufactured products at all. You can never be sure that there isn't a mashehu chometz in anything. Even mains water. That is why many people (myself included) only used pre-bottled water for pesach.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 05:43 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
Anonymous Says:

Just another example of how frum priorities are so out of whack.

Shady business dealings, cheating the government, yeshivas flaunting zoning laws, ostentatious spending, and public chilul Hashems on practically a weekly basis are minor problems that don't need much attention, but THIS is a major breakthrough! Putting a "hechser" on something that never needed one to begin with???

What a joke.

Shady business dealings? Cheating the government? Flaunting zoning laws? etc etc. Who? Not me. Not anybody I know. Right now the only one I can think of who it could be is you but then you are probably not as strict in kashrus as most of the people I know.
You are right, there is a joke here and you are it.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 05:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #32  
china Says:

i am importer of aluminum foil and we all buy from the same factory
there was never rabbi or mashgiach in the factory in china
and also in all other disposible items as well ,there is never rabbi or mashgiach at the time when goods are manufactured and not before either
the only diference is that there is a rubber stamp on the product and they charge you more money
it really is a sham on the rabbis who sell their neschomoh for few dollars

Incorrect. A shliach, a world renowed expert, from one of the biggest hechsherim in the world was was at the aluminium foil factory in Ghana, which I believe is the biggest in the world, and checked everything.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 05:48 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #34  
Anonymous Says:

i called the OU and they said it is non sense so for you to go start talking about halacha, your the one that doesn't know the difference between a donkey and a

I also called the OU, and they say that #8 knows what he's talking about.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 06:19 PM Gregaaron Says:

Reply to #29  
Hashgacha Says:

And for your information:
many napkins with a print may have an even more serious concern of real chomeitz, so if you want to bring your food in contact with a napkin or paper towel, take ONLY one with a reliable hashgacha.

Any chometz in those napkins is botul, as long as it either purchased before Pesach, or bought on Pesach from a non-Jewish owned store. I don't know if kitniyos is botul or not; apparently those who give the hashgacha feel that it isn't.

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 09:45 PM formally Says:

Reply to #41  
Knowledgeable Says:

Even if were not noisain taam lifgam it would make no difference. The issur of mashehu is only in Pesach. Providing it was in the ownership of a yid before the zman biur it becomes bottul and as it was bottul bizman hetter it is not choizer veniur in Pesach even if it is roih leachilas kelev. Actually it is ok till nightfall because on Erev Pesach chometz is like other issurim i.e. bottul beshishim etc.

If not for this rule there would be NO kosher lepesach manufactured products at all. You can never be sure that there isn't a mashehu chometz in anything. Even mains water. That is why many people (myself included) only used pre-bottled water for pesach.

(I apologize I am only using your statement as example)

I think this is what #2 is talking about. People are very strict when it comes to stuff like this not even drinking regular water and people will rightfully praise him.

but when it comes issues like fraud, and similar stuff, we do not hear Chumras on Chumras being issued by robbonum. There is no proclamation do not do this or that may be fraud. Or say lets err on the safe side and make a chumra one should not do this since it might lead to fraud.

We never hear that, as a matter of fact they rarely condemn fraud and such action which is also ussar just like kosher is

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 10:03 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Kosher eater Says:

If someone puts hot or wet food on a napkin or paper towel that's non kosher, the food becomes non kosher as a result, go learn some halachos before poking jokes on a serious matter.

Thank you. And here was I thinking I was the only one who keeps this halacha....year round! So I'm fahrfrumpt...at least YOU, my friend, will eat in my house!

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 Mar 16, 2010 at 11:52 PM sruly Says:

Their is a old yiddish vort asofi as goish zich aso yiddisht zich it means its a 2 way street. If lipa can come out with a hagadah then can thr rebunimgive a hashgocha on paper towel

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 Mar 17, 2010 at 12:14 AM HaNavon Says:

nu, what about gezel? if there's no real reason to have a hechsher, than to put a hechsher on it is gezel gamor!

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 Mar 17, 2010 at 01:28 AM Kashrus Pro Says:

Reply to #27  
Anonymous Says:

Aluminum foil needs a hechsher because of oils that can be used in processing and to coat them.

Having been to may foil plants I could honestly tell you that you are seriously misinformed.

Yes the foil rolls are coated will oils (MINERAL!) so that they roll & eventually shine HOWEVER the foil rolls are placed into a kiln where they are brought up to over 900 degrees thus burning off any oil residue. In english .... KASHERING!!!

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 Mar 17, 2010 at 01:33 AM KASHRUS PRO Says:

Reply to #50  
HaNavon Says:

nu, what about gezel? if there's no real reason to have a hechsher, than to put a hechsher on it is gezel gamor!

You REALLY need to change your name. Its only gezel if they weren't up front with the company on the absurdity of having hashgocha on this item... and that's only if they are yehudi.

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 Mar 17, 2010 at 07:40 AM sruly Says:

Their is a old yiddish vort asofi as goish zich aso yiddisht zich it means its a 2 way street. If lipa can come out with a hagadah then can thr rebunimgive a hashgocha on paper towel

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 Mar 17, 2010 at 02:08 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #47  
formally Says:

(I apologize I am only using your statement as example)

I think this is what #2 is talking about. People are very strict when it comes to stuff like this not even drinking regular water and people will rightfully praise him.

but when it comes issues like fraud, and similar stuff, we do not hear Chumras on Chumras being issued by robbonum. There is no proclamation do not do this or that may be fraud. Or say lets err on the safe side and make a chumra one should not do this since it might lead to fraud.

We never hear that, as a matter of fact they rarely condemn fraud and such action which is also ussar just like kosher is

What are you talking about? One has nothing to do with the other.
I was simply pointing out a bit of background to hilchos pesach.

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 Mar 17, 2010 at 03:42 AM yitzchokaizik Says:

Reply to #1  
oh, goodie Says:

Every time I make a paper towel kugel for Pesach, I feel a little guilty.

What's next, certifying oxygen?

Never!!! Oxygen has microbes, which are Tolaeem!!!!!

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 Mar 17, 2010 at 05:35 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #50  
HaNavon Says:

nu, what about gezel? if there's no real reason to have a hechsher, than to put a hechsher on it is gezel gamor!

The hechsher givers are quite talented at gezel on items that do need a hechsher. Otherwise how come that a product with a hechsher costs 3 or 4 times as much as the identical product, produced in the same factory, at the same time and on the same machine, without a hechsher. It is not the mashgiach's wages. He gets paid about the same as a bus-driver or street cleaner (actually less - the voice of experience here).

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 Mar 17, 2010 at 09:01 AM yitzchokaizik Says:

Reply to #8  
Kosher eater Says:

If someone puts hot or wet food on a napkin or paper towel that's non kosher, the food becomes non kosher as a result, go learn some halachos before poking jokes on a serious matter.

Do you listen to yourself? Does that mean that you have a kosher (certified) knife, fork, spoons, sink, plates, owen, and everything else that touches food? And worst than that, these towels are for cleaning, so do you have a kosher trash can as well?

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 Mar 17, 2010 at 12:00 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #51  
Kashrus Pro Says:

Having been to may foil plants I could honestly tell you that you are seriously misinformed.

Yes the foil rolls are coated will oils (MINERAL!) so that they roll & eventually shine HOWEVER the foil rolls are placed into a kiln where they are brought up to over 900 degrees thus burning off any oil residue. In english .... KASHERING!!!

That is hebrew.

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 Mar 17, 2010 at 01:31 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #23  
mt mehdi Says:

"Many standard paper towels are glued to the tube with an adhesive containing starch that is not kosher for Passover for Ashkenazi Jews"

that means: kitniyos - not real chometz. THERE IS NO SUCH CHUMRA TO AVOID COMING IN CONTACT WITH KITNIYOS. THIS IS A NEW MISHAGOS.

Thank you for the voice of reason. Kitniyos is NOT chametz you amaratzim. You cannot call something chametz if it does not contain a substance that can be called chametz. This is a TOTALLY unecessary hechsher, and unfortuantely would have to agree with the fellow who described it as gezelah...both of the manufacturer and the Jewish and non Jewish consumer who pay more for this item. Can't have a mitvah ha ba be aveirah, so better be careful.

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 Mar 17, 2010 at 04:42 PM Anonymous Says:

Ah nyaa meshigass...

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 Mar 18, 2010 at 10:32 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #39  
Milhouse Says:

Have you read the article? Because of the glue that connects it to the tube.

you really are a bit dim (unless it's a ruse to bait someone to start an argument).

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 Mar 18, 2010 at 11:11 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #59  
Anonymous Says:

Thank you for the voice of reason. Kitniyos is NOT chametz you amaratzim. You cannot call something chametz if it does not contain a substance that can be called chametz. This is a TOTALLY unecessary hechsher, and unfortuantely would have to agree with the fellow who described it as gezelah...both of the manufacturer and the Jewish and non Jewish consumer who pay more for this item. Can't have a mitvah ha ba be aveirah, so better be careful.

The first normal poster here.

What has our society come to, with the "dumbing down" of frumkeit?
More and more people are fanatically observant, but for things they don't properly understand.
Rather than spend time learning hilchos lulav, they spend 2 hours with a jeweler's loupe checking aravos leaves.

We are turning into planes on autopilot, run amok in the wrong direction. These imaginary chumrahs don't exist, and are invented by laymen who believe themselves rabbinic experts because they daven loudly, or eat chicken with 4 hechshers not 3, or have a more expensive hat.

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