“ This entire article does not say anything about why it might be kosher. I'm so confused! ”

“ maybe they will come out one day with food that you will be aloud to eat in yom kipur ? ”

“ if you carry with ther eruv why not drive a car also
the more averos the merierr ”

“ Have no fear. It will never be allowed in Boro Park. ”

“ Is it allowed to use this product in an area where there is no Eruv? ”

“ If you dont agree with Hilchos Eiruvin why bother with Purim or Chanuka or any other Mitzvos D'Rabbonon ?!
It wont make you any less of a tzdoiki ”

“ To All The Posking here on VIN,

Would anyone of you know, is it mutar to use roller blades or roller skates on shabbos, to go to "my" shul which is quite far from my house? I'm not a cholah, just a bit heavy & chubby and this would be much more quicker then walking.
Oh , I "might" use some of the time which I'll b saving by this, to learn a bit more on shabbos afternoon instead of sleeping so much because of all the walking....

Nu, lets hear some D'vurim Shal Taam.... ”

“ The leading Poskim have already given their Psak forbidding the use of this so-called "kosher-scooter" on Shabbos ”

“ its not that he doesn't agree with hilchois eruvin. its just that there are many questions about the validity and kashrus of the common eruv. for a start the Rambam's opinion is that if the majority of the eruv is by using tzuras hapesach then there must be a lechi (verticle board) every 10 amois. Secondly the Mishna Brura states that a ben Torah should not use the eruv built around a city. thirdly the Toras Chesed states that you cannot use telegraph wires as part of your eruv. So according to the rambam and especially according to the Toras Chesed you cannot use the common eruv that is done nowadays. ”

“ Go on a diet?
Walk to shul... everyday?
If you need more time to learn during the day, spend less time eating.

Anything else we can help you with? ”

“ I asked a Shaila and you didn't answer my question, are we allowed to use it or not. Since you had an urge to reply, R U ashamed to just answer, I don't know.... or don't answer at all. Why do you need to knock me about my diet, walking, learning....? ”

“ I asked a Shaila and you didn't answer my question, are we allowed to use it or not. Since you had an urge to reply, R U ashamed to just answer, I don't know.... or don't answer at all. Why do you need to knock me about my diet, walking, learning....? ”

“ I am trying to have an open mind about this. How does this resolve the halachic issues? It sounds to me like it is taking the issur from d'oraysa to a d'rabbonon. I know that doctors and hatzolah use various devices to create either a gramma or k'lyachar yad (or both). There would still need to be a tzorich that is either doiche the d'rabbonon (e.g. sakona) or rests in an area that the rabbonim were not gozer, for some reason. Any clarification? ”

“ Those that do not have solid knowledge of physics, mechanical, electrical engineering will not trust the "kashroot" of such mechanical/electrical devices because it is hard to understand the functions of these devices. Most people will rely on their gedolim to make the decision on whether these are kosher for shabbos or not. The rabbonim who are not comfortable understanding the detailed scientific explanations will just ban them to be on the safe side. ”

“ very true.It's one thing to say ,"I don't know" which alot of Rebbunim simply won't do, so they simply say it's usser just to play it safe. ”

“ Those that do not have solid knowledge of physics, mechanical, electrical engineering will not trust the "kashroot" of such mechanical/electrical devices because it is hard to understand the functions of these devices. Most people will rely on their gedolim to make the decision on whether these are kosher for shabbos or not. The rabbonim who are not comfortable understanding the detailed scientific explanations will just ban them to be on the safe side. ”

“ The Heter is only for a Choleh and for a Choleh Gremoh is Muter ”

“ To All The Posking here on VIN,

Would anyone of you know, is it mutar to use roller blades or roller skates on shabbos, to go to "my" shul which is quite far from my house? I'm not a cholah, just a bit heavy & chubby and this would be much more quicker then walking.
Oh , I "might" use some of the time which I'll b saving by this, to learn a bit more on shabbos afternoon instead of sleeping so much because of all the walking....

Nu, lets hear some D'vurim Shal Taam.... ”

“ maybe they will come out one day with food that you will be aloud to eat in yom kipur ? ”

“ Its not important to know "why" its kosher: as long as the rabbonim can find some way to circumvent the requirements and give mobility to those who would otherwise be unable to leave home on shabbos, why poke around to find some "issue" and take away their mobility. That would be cruel to frumme yidden who need this help. Please stop looking for new chumrahs to make their lives miserable. or someday your good work will assure you of the same affilictions. ”

“ Can anyone suggest a web site that explains the orthodox position on the use of electrical devices on shabbos? I've never understood the prohibition on the use of electricity, or the exception that seems to have been carved out for elevators. (I'm an engineer, so technically dense discussions would be especially welcome.) ”

“ its not that he doesn't agree with hilchois eruvin. its just that there are many questions about the validity and kashrus of the common eruv. for a start the Rambam's opinion is that if the majority of the eruv is by using tzuras hapesach then there must be a lechi (verticle board) every 10 amois. Secondly the Mishna Brura states that a ben Torah should not use the eruv built around a city. thirdly the Toras Chesed states that you cannot use telegraph wires as part of your eruv. So according to the rambam and especially according to the Toras Chesed you cannot use the common eruv that is done nowadays. ”

“ I don't know if it's the same thing or not, but several years ago someone in Monsey came out with a "Shabbos bicycle". His "Rav" paskened that it was Muttar to use it on Shabbos, and the first week the rider was hit by a car on his way to Shul. Not that I usually believe in hibbyjibbies, but this story happened in my neighborhood...

I'm also wondering if there might be a difference in din for a choleh and someone who is b"h well - although it's a slippery slope. At what point would one be considered sick enough that he is allowed to use it? I'd love to hear what the Rabbonim say on the matter... ”

“ Since we have already found ways around the strict interpretation of the laws of shabbos through the artifice of an "eruv", this is s logical extension. Finally we have have some rabbonim whose focus is on making the lives of yidden easier rather than trying to make us more miserable on shabbos and restricting our activities further. ”

“ The article was filled with many generalities...Having random people say that it's Kosher doesn't make it Kosher. Stating that it's been widely used in Israel....How widely? Thousands? Hundreds...LIke an an eruv...maybe kosher maybe not...We need details not gossip ”