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FileSydney, Australia - Cigarettes may contain traces of pig’s blood, an Australian academic says with a warning that religious groups could find its undisclosed presence “very offensive”.
University of Sydney Professor Simon Chapman points to recent Dutch research which identified 185 different industrial uses of a pig - including the use of its haemoglobin in cigarette filters.
Prof Chapman said the research offered an insight into the otherwise secretive world of cigarette manufacture, and it was likely to raise concerns for devout Muslims and Jews.
“I think that there would be some particularly devout groups who would find the idea that there were pig products in cigarettes to be very offensive,” Prof Chapman told AAP.
“The Jewish community certainly takes these matters extremely seriously and the Islamic community certainly do as well, as would many vegetarians.
“It just puts into hard relief the problem that the tobacco industry is not required to declare the ingredients of cigarettes ... they say `that’s our business` and a trade secret.”
The Dutch research found pig haemoglobin - a blood protein - was being used to make cigarette filters more effective at trapping harmful chemicals before they could enter a smoker’s lungs.
Prof Chapman said while tobacco companies had moved voluntarily list the contents of their products on their websites, they also noted undisclosed “processing aids ... that are not significantly present in, and do not functionally affect, the finished product”.
This catch-all term hid from public view an array of chemicals and other substances used in the making of tobacco products, he said.
At least one cigarette brand sold in Greece was confirmed as using pig haemoglobin in its processes, Prof Chapman said, and the status of smokes sold was unknown.
“If you’re a smoker and you’re of Islamic or Jewish faith then you’d probably would want to know and there is no way of finding out,” Prof Chapman said.
The Sydney office of British American Tobacco Australia was contacted by AAP.
A spokeswoman said a comment would be provided although it was not immediately available.
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Mar 31, 2010 at 09:27 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Even if he were right, and its not clear his information is accurate, the chazer blood would not be in edible format ("unfit to be eaten by a dog") so there is no kashruth issue except perhaps for mehadrim
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Mar 31, 2010 at 10:16 PM Gefilte Fish Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Even if he were right, and its not clear his information is accurate, the chazer blood would not be in edible format ("unfit to be eaten by a dog") so there is no kashruth issue except perhaps for mehadrim ”
Even if it were "fit to be eaten by a dog" it wouldn't be a problem, it's butel be'elef.
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Mar 31, 2010 at 10:42 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
This is silly...chazir is assur beachilah...not to smoke...and even to eat it is batul...for Muslims, though, they are really strict and avoid ALL contact,they have a problem
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Mar 31, 2010 at 10:47 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
#'s 1 & 2 you must be smokers. I always said smokers are pigs. They don't take into account non smokers who suffer from passive smoking which is worse than actually smoking. And even if it would be butel in whatever way, why would you not feel fareckelled knowing your smoking pig contents, and who knows what else it contains. The answer: Ti's time to give up smoking.
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Mar 31, 2010 at 11:08 PM Eli Says:Report as Inappropriate
I suspect that this man is being paid off by Time ciggarettes in Israel, or some Hechsher company, top convince jews that cigarettes should need a hechsher to be kosher. What a windfall of profit that would be if a hecsher was needed on cigarettes. That brand would not only sell more to jews, but muslims would probably prefer it as well since the kosher symbol would guarentee no pig product was used. I think that people should be very weary of this article until more information is available.
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Mar 31, 2010 at 11:09 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ #'s 1 & 2 you must be smokers. I always said smokers are pigs. They don't take into account non smokers who suffer from passive smoking which is worse than actually smoking. And even if it would be butel in whatever way, why would you not feel fareckelled knowing your smoking pig contents, and who knows what else it contains. The answer: Ti's time to give up smoking. ”
"even if it would be butel in whatever way, why would you not feel fareckelled knowing your smoking pig contents, and who knows what else it contains"
Most of the time I can figure out the meaning of most yiddish words spelled out here on VIN in English. However, even my zaida who is spending yom tov with us has never heard of the vert "Fareckelled". Can anyoneone help a non-smoker know what he is avoiding?
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Mar 31, 2010 at 11:31 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Dont get it. The pig derivative is not added to the flavor, but to the filter. Cant I use pig derivatives as long as I do not eat it?
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Mar 31, 2010 at 11:39 PM Dan Says:Report as Inappropriate
oh, and you die of cancer! Seems kind of ridiculous to argue about the halachik status of trace pigs blood when people are dying
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Mar 31, 2010 at 11:40 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Dont get it. The pig derivative is not added to the flavor, but to the filter. Cant I use pig derivatives as long as I do not eat it? ”
you are probably correct
but dont you want to be machmir?
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Mar 31, 2010 at 11:46 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ "even if it would be butel in whatever way, why would you not feel fareckelled knowing your smoking pig contents, and who knows what else it contains"
Most of the time I can figure out the meaning of most yiddish words spelled out here on VIN in English. However, even my zaida who is spending yom tov with us has never heard of the vert "Fareckelled". Can anyoneone help a non-smoker know what he is avoiding? ”
The word 'ekeldik' means disgusting. If you are 'far'ekelled' by something, you are disgusted by it or find it nauseating.
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Mar 31, 2010 at 11:50 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ #'s 1 & 2 you must be smokers. I always said smokers are pigs. They don't take into account non smokers who suffer from passive smoking which is worse than actually smoking. And even if it would be butel in whatever way, why would you not feel fareckelled knowing your smoking pig contents, and who knows what else it contains. The answer: Ti's time to give up smoking. ”
Go hug a tree.
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Apr 01, 2010 at 12:14 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Go ahead and smoke the Pigarettes,if yiu must. as long as you dont harm us.
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Apr 01, 2010 at 12:20 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
cigarettes should be assur gamur - I see so many people DIE from the side effects of smoking. Certainly not worth it. It is reality - deal with it...
A concerned doctor
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Apr 01, 2010 at 07:07 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Why should anyone care? Cigarettes are already treif and anyone who smokes them is killing themselves. It's already Assur D'oreisa, what's a little pigs blood on top of that?
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Apr 01, 2010 at 07:24 AM concerned Says:Report as Inappropriate
Here's my humble opinion about smoking. Never mind kashrus..... that's not even the issue here. All of you who smoke, are selfish pigs. You have family to worry about. What about the father who has a family....How will they support themselves after he's gone due to cancer. The young kids smoke because they see the older men smoking... This should be the main issure here, not whether it's kosher or not.
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Apr 01, 2010 at 11:32 AM murray Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Go ahead and smoke the Pigarettes,if yiu must. as long as you dont harm us. ”
Smokers have to go to non-filtered cigs-no big deal. Camel, Lucky Strike, and others.
Personally, I smoke only hand made, imported premium cigars...means NO Additives.
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Apr 01, 2010 at 01:18 PM A. Nuran Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Smokers have to go to non-filtered cigs-no big deal. Camel, Lucky Strike, and others.
Personally, I smoke only hand made, imported premium cigars...means NO Additives. ”
That's what you think, Murray. But you have no way of knowing except that you hope it's true with the high prices you pay. The fact is, there is no requirement for tobacco companies to tell you what's in the carcinogenic trash they sell you. That's how the Tobacco Barons wrote the law. They could put bridge sweepings and white arsenic into your expensive cigars and very well may if it makes you slightly more addicted to the poison they want you hooked on.
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Apr 01, 2010 at 03:22 PM Lost soul in Seagate Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Here's my humble opinion about smoking. Never mind kashrus..... that's not even the issue here. All of you who smoke, are selfish pigs. You have family to worry about. What about the father who has a family....How will they support themselves after he's gone due to cancer. The young kids smoke because they see the older men smoking... This should be the main issure here, not whether it's kosher or not. ”
You are the "pig" here. You ask "how are they going to be supported?"- Did you never hear of Life Insurance"? I say that a good many of us dyed in the wool smokers are worth more to our beloved families dead than alive, so No Guilt here- just pluck the pignatious filters in the trash, and light up.......good bets for un-pigging your cigs are: marlboro, Kools, and Carlton. I believe that "Old Gold" still comes in a straight, un-filtered offering.
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Apr 01, 2010 at 04:43 PM murray Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ That's what you think, Murray. But you have no way of knowing except that you hope it's true with the high prices you pay. The fact is, there is no requirement for tobacco companies to tell you what's in the carcinogenic trash they sell you. That's how the Tobacco Barons wrote the law. They could put bridge sweepings and white arsenic into your expensive cigars and very well may if it makes you slightly more addicted to the poison they want you hooked on. ”
I have seen at the factory in the D.R., where they make my brand...the ladies, hand rolling my stogies from whole tobbaco leaves. I have witnessed the whole process from start to finish ,to sealing in boxes. Fine cigars by their very nature do not and cannot have any "sweepings", what-so-ever-Not even tobbaco sweepings or filler, other than whole, long, leaves...my friend you speak of what you know not.
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Apr 02, 2010 at 07:32 AM HaNavon Says:Report as Inappropriate
look at the rav yaakov emdens mor u'ketzia, #511, where he says even chametz gamor in tobacco is mutar on pesach, because it's not reuy l'achilas kelev. he says his father, the chacham tzvi used to laugh at those yidden who would buy special kosher l'pesach tobacco. how much more so with damo shel beheima tameia? mutar mutar mutar!