Chicago, IL – Another High-profile Case, a Mother Demands ex-husband Help Raise Child in Jewish Tradition

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    Nelson Derbigny spends time with his 7-year-old son, whose mother has gone to court demanding that Derbigny feed the boy kosher food. Derbigny is refusing to do so. (Dom Najolia/Sun-Times)Chicago, IL – Their divorce was settled three years ago, but there they were Friday, back in Cook County Domestic Relations Court, this time fighting over a contentious religious issue:

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    Could a devout Jewish mother force her ex-husband, who isn’t Jewish, to feed their 7-year-old son kosher food when he has the boy?

    And couldn’t the judge please also make Nelson Derbigny, a 52-year-old North Sider, allow the boy to wear his yarmulke to his public grade school?

    With interfaith marriages on the rise, child-custody battles centering on religion are likely to become increasingly common, experts say.

    Just a few days earlier, in the same downtown Chicago courthouse where Derbigny was summoned by his ex-wife Elina Margolina, a high-profile fight over whether a child could be raised Jewish but also exposed to her father’s Catholic faith had thrown a national spotlight on such interfaith battles.

    In that case, Cook County Associate Judge Renee Goldfarb granted sole custody of the 3-year-old girl to Rebecca Reyes, a Northwestern University Law School admissions officer.

    But although the mother had argued that her ex-husband, Joseph Reyes — a 35-year-old law student who’d converted to Judaism but has returned to his Catholic roots — shouldn’t be allowed to take the girl to mass when he has her for visits, the judge disagreed. The judge did so even though Reyes defied a court order that he not expose the girl to any religion other than Judaism by taking her to mass and having her baptized — and then sending his ex-wife photos of the baptism.

    Derbigny’s ex-wife won a temporary court order saying he must help their son follow Jewish tradition.

    “We’re asking to restrain Dad’s conduct, which has adversely impacted on the child,” said Margolina’s attorney, David Grund. “He’s, in effect, sabotaging the child’s religious upbringing.”

    Derbigny says that isn’t so — he never forced his son to eat pork or mocked the boy when he wore his yarmulke. Instead, he argues that his ex-wife’s demands amount to a change in their divorce agreement, especially since he says she never kept kosher or observed the Jewish sabbath during their marriage.

    “I don’t believe I should have to keep a kosher house,” says Derbigny, a Roman Catholic who goes to mass only at Christmas and Easter.

    His attorney, Enrico Mirabelli, adds: “Religion is being used as a sword to slice away his parental rights. And the concern here is that, if this keeps going, the boy is going to come to him and say, ‘Dad, I can’t come visit you because you’re not Jewish.’ ”

    In court papers, Derbigny argues that Margolina practiced Reform Judaism while they were married but was now following the stricter precepts of Hasidic Judaism.

    Court records show Margolina has remarried, has twin baby boys, and “everyone in the family is a devout and observant Jew.”

    Margolina, 38, says in court papers that her son with Derbigny has “been raised and educated in the Jewish faith since birth.” She declined to comment.

    “What often happens in these kinds of situations is people go back and spend time with their original families, and the pressure is coming from their families to raise the child in their religion,” says Katheryn M. Dutenhaver, director of DePaul University’s Interfaith Family Mediation Project.

    Started in the 1990s, the mediation effort has seen its caseload steadily rise, Dutenhaver says. Judges refer couple to the program.

    At the heart of many custody battles over religion, Dutenhaver says, is parents’ fear they’ll lose a connection if their child follows the other parent’s faith.

    “Because religion provides for holy days and holidays, and those are, for the most part, important times for families to get together with extended families, there’s a concern from each parent that [the child is] going to grow closer to the other family and closer to the other parent,” she says.

    In the DePaul program, the parents meet with a mediator and clergy members to work out a plan in the child’s best interest — with no attorneys present. When the parents can shake hands, they go back to court for a legal stamp of approval.

    But even in the best situations, custody agreements change as much as a child does over the years.

    “You can make anything non-modifiable except visitation, custody and child support,” says Robert Badesch, who teaches at DePaul’s law school. “. . . If you enter a divorce decree and the child is 4 at the time, that’s not going to be the same visitation when a child is 16, right?”


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    tearful
    tearful
    14 years ago

    Rabbi Eliezer Shemtov recently put out a book in Spanish dealing with this tragic subject. Here are two excellent (sadly) proofs of the terrible results of intermarriage, when the children are a korbon and forced to do things against our heilige Torah.

    Babishka
    Member
    Babishka
    14 years ago

    Don’t intermarry and you won’t have these problems.

    MyThoughts
    MyThoughts
    14 years ago

    Nu, what do the Reform Rabbis say to these cases on the rise? They need to come up with a better solution than these interfaith marriage classes.
    Shame on them. They are the ones making the intermarriage numbers larger with their fake conversions.
    I know, I know, their was no conversion in this case.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    this is a joke..”devout jewish mother’..how devout can one be in this case..??

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    wow #2 way to be sensitive to those who are chozer be tshuva

    yossi
    yossi
    14 years ago

    chicago has the most divorce cases!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    This is one of the reasons that chazal tell us that geirim are (or often are) a sapachas (an unwanted attachment) for klall yisroel. Of course we’ve benefited greatly from many geirim but in many cases they are a cause for a lot of tzoros_and we have enough of that from our own without bringing in more from the outside.

    SimchaB
    SimchaB
    14 years ago

    Ah! Babishkka what would we do without your brilliant advice?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    I hope that for the sake of this child (and any other children caught in the same situation) that neither parents denigrate the other and that each parent teaches the child to respect the other parent’s wishes and practices when in the other’s home. I know this comment is going to get a lot of flack, but if teaching the child to respect the other parent and not interfering with the child’s relationship with the other parent means that neither parent become orthodox or strictly observant in their birth religion and the child goes to public schoool (together with any other children the parents may subsequently product so this one child is not singled out for differential treatment), then so be it. The parents created this situation when intermarrying and the child should not be a pawn or made to be uncomfortable in either parent’s home. Let the parents wait till the child is 18 if they want to return to the orthodox side of their religion of birth.

    united pilot
    united pilot
    14 years ago

    Is he a cubs fan?!?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Reply to #10 . I apologize for hurting your feelings. Just quoting chazal and some rishonim.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Its a total mishagas. Yad Lachim is busy with “devout” ladies who married arabs and afetr having 5 children want out. In Chicago we have “devout” ladies who want their husbands to be jewish and eat kosher. All you do gooders get off it. Lets try to keep the frum yiden frum and not going off the way. Then we will worry about bringing on new converts to the jewish faith.
    One story before this one is about the frum yiden that R”L went to the restaurant Traif, where they sell pork at the edge of williamsburg. Try to keep our dirty laundry clean before taking on to clean other dirty laundry. We have so many problems in the year 2010 that we don’t need more.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    thank you Milhouse. It’s a little concerning when people don’t take ma’amarei chazal seriously. Granted I’m just a an am ha’aretz but my rebbeim did interpret this ma’amer chazal in this way. No amount of posts by other amei ha’aretz will get me to veer one inch from my loyalty to chazal! I imagine that chazal were familiar with the story of Avraham and Sarah when they referred to geirim as a sapachas.Chazal’s comments weren’t said with the same ease and superficiality as many comments that get posted. We should learn to internalize the ma’amarei chazal at least as much as all the other narishkeit we read!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    We need to go out and educate people what happens when someone marries out of their faith.

    Jewish by Birth
    Jewish by Birth
    14 years ago

    The boy in this case is Jewish because his mother is Jewish. There is no difference whether she is mitzva-observant,Chassidic,reform,etc.;as long as her mother was Jewish,she and her children are,too.The father need not be Jewish. No she decided to marry a frum man and live a kosher,Shabbos home and naturally wants her son to not to be lost to assimilation. You can’t force the boy to make the choice.He feels loyal to both parents . I hope that she will win out in the end,the sooner the better.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    14 years ago

    Another tragedy of these types of court proceedings is that it is so hard to make the judges and their clerks understand the nuances involved in Jewish observance. How do you explain that once a mother cared so little about Judaism, that she married a non Jew, while now she is concerned over every crumb going into her child’s mouth? The father didn’t change, the mother and son are now shomer mitzvahs. Perhaps one legal strategy is to liken non kosher to a food allergy. The Jewish child’s soul is allergic to nonkosher food! Whatever branch of Jewish you are, we are all one and we collectively must educate our children about the problems of intermarriage.

    MyThoughts
    MyThoughts
    14 years ago

    Having blond and red hair and blue eyes does not prove that there were geirim in the family. The Yemenite Jews are very dark skinned and it’s silly to say they are all dark skinned because of geirim. Our ancestors were definitly not all dark skinned like them.
    And the Persians and Romans, the ancestors of todays Europeans originate from the Middle East. With Middle Eastern ancestors from where does their lighter coloring come from?
    Features and hair color prove nothing regarding who our ancestors were. They are rather part of Hashem’s amazing creation and design of our world with different people, cultures and features, depending on the geographic area.

    actual Jew
    actual Jew
    14 years ago

    I am of two minds here. How can you fault the goyim? they married Jews who obviously did not care.
    But now that they are BT, this is a huge issue.
    Bear in mind, my fellow Jews, that you read the commentaries of Onkelos; that the Talmud talks about the descendants of Haman teaching in Bnei Brak; that Crusader princes converted in Jerusalem and spawned great teachers and daughters; that many Yemenites are descendants of Arab gerim; that in Rashi and Rambam’s day, the Catholic Church had to make up rules just to slow down the conversions to Judaism…
    I could go on. Be respectful to both goyim and the BT. we can find an answer.