Jerusalem - Mayor Closing Haifa's Separate Beach for Sailing Competition |
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Photo Archived pf separated beach in IsraelJerusalem - Haifa chareidim are incensed with Mayor Yonah Yahav, who decided to temporarily close down Haifa’s separate beach to enable an international sailing competition ° The closest separate beach for religious Haifa residents to use is in far off Kiryat Chaim ° The city says the chareidim are ungrateful bordering on the scandalous
Haifa mayor Yonah Yahav had divided the Pacific Beach along Haifa’s shore into two beaches—one for surfers, and the other for the religious public who wanted a beach that had separate hours for men and women.
This year, the Haifa municipality decided to close the religious beach temporarily in July, to enable an international sailing competition. This means that during the hottest swimming season (both meanings intended), the religious will not have a beach to bathe in.
The municipality claims that it didn’t forget the religious public, and offered them an alternative in the Kiryat Chaim separate beach. However, families with many children will find it difficult if not impossible to afford transportation to the far off beach.
The Pacific Beach has served Haifa’s religious population for years. The beach was bounded off by fences according to the religious residents’ needs, but the city has increasingly reduced the beach area for the benefit of sailing aficionados, whose boats share the same beach strip.
Religious bathers say that July is prime swimming time for them, coming as it does after the Three Weeks when families cannot partake of swimming and other leisure activities.
“This month is the most important for us,” said one perturbed Haifa chareidi. “Bein Hazmanim falls during this month and we can’t bathe in the sea before that because of the Three Weeks. This is the only form of leisure that large families can enjoy and which involves a minimal cost. And they want to take this from us too?”
Moshe, who lives in the Hadar neighborhood and frequently takes his 6 children to the sea, complained, “We’re a large public, most of whom lives in Hadar. It’s too difficulty to go to Kiryat Chaim. Why are we always the ones whose rights are trampled? We pay property taxes like everyone else! Because we didn’t vote for Yahav, he’s getting back at us in various ways.”
The religious residents appealed to city councilman Aryeh Blitenthal for his assistance in preventing the closure of the separate beach. Blitenthal says he’ll try to reach an arrangement with Yahav that will be acceptable to all sides.
The city issued a statement: “As we told the religious public, they can use the separate beach in Kiryat Chaim. We even arranged with the Egged bus cooperative that they’ll run a special line to the beach [i.e. at full cost to the passengers]. The complaints of the religious public are scandalously ungrateful.”
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Apr 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
I think that if you are SO religious you'll manage for a few days without a beach! Zullen Zie Zich Abisil Brechen Farren Eibeshten! Not every incident has to turn into a big media frenzy!!!! The world is getting sick and tired of us whining day and night!!!
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Apr 21, 2010 at 10:44 AM Exxon Says:Report as Inappropriate
for a few dozen wealthy sailors, we should shut down the beach to thousands of bathers?
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Apr 21, 2010 at 10:54 AM Levi Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ for a few dozen wealthy sailors, we should shut down the beach to thousands of bathers? ”
The country goes out of its way to accommodate the chareidim on a thousand different things - try to be goods citizen just for a few days.
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Apr 21, 2010 at 10:59 AM MazelKGH Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ for a few dozen wealthy sailors, we should shut down the beach to thousands of bathers? ”
Yes. What difference does it make? During the day everyone is either working or learning.
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Apr 21, 2010 at 11:03 AM Hershy Says:Report as Inappropriate
I am an ex american who lives in the hadar neighborhood of haifa. I love it here its a real religous chassidic area. The Kiryat Chaim beach is not to far, its like going from 39th st and 13 ave to 18th ave and 60th st. I dont mind doing that the bus goes every five minutes and its a better beach .
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Apr 21, 2010 at 11:09 AM SimchaB Says:Report as Inappropriate
Reply to #1: Why don't you go brech! Did you read the article? They don't go swimming all year! This closure comes right after the 3 weeks and during Bain Hazmanim.
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Apr 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Yona yahav does it all the time looking for trouble with chardim day and night as revenge let's see if he will win the next election
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Apr 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM SimchaB Says:Report as Inappropriate
Reply to #3: Don't you think Torah Jews should be accomodated by a state that owes it's existence to G-d choosing the Jewish people and giving them the land.
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Apr 21, 2010 at 11:13 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ for a few dozen wealthy sailors, we should shut down the beach to thousands of bathers? ”
Yes...these few dozen wealthy sailors will bring more tourist money to Haifa in a few days than these Chareidim probably contribute in a year to the community's economic development. they are also providing a very good alternative for the few days involved. Its their own choice not to go swimming during the three weeks prior to Tisha Ba'av and we should respect that decision but its not the fault of the municipal government of Haifa. Be flexible for a change and stop kvetching. In fact, you should come out and cheer for your favorite chareidi sailing team.
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Apr 21, 2010 at 11:16 AM YG Says:Report as Inappropriate
BS"D
Maybe the sailing compitition should have been scheduled for the nine days instead of after?
Shalom Al Yisroel, yg
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Apr 21, 2010 at 11:25 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ for a few dozen wealthy sailors, we should shut down the beach to thousands of bathers? ”
My guess is that the "few dozen wealthy sailors" bring in a lot of income for the city & state.
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Apr 21, 2010 at 11:55 AM Levi Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Reply to #3: Don't you think Torah Jews should be accomodated by a state that owes it's existence to G-d choosing the Jewish people and giving them the land. ”
no. Hashem put the gov't in charge and gave strength to IDF
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Apr 21, 2010 at 01:19 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
great picture, thanks
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Apr 21, 2010 at 01:41 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ BS"D
Maybe the sailing compitition should have been scheduled for the nine days instead of after?
Shalom Al Yisroel, yg ”
It would be a much greater aveyrah for the yiddeshe sailors to race and party during the nine days than c'v some chareidi to go to the public beach afterwards during bein hazmanim and see a woman in a normal bathing suit. We can accomodate both sides without creating a chilul hashem.
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Apr 21, 2010 at 02:32 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
If the Charedim are fighting over a beach maybe we are making progress in this world. Who would have thought that Charedim would ever start valuing leisurely time at a beach. Bal Shemtov is proud.
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Apr 21, 2010 at 03:00 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ It would be a much greater aveyrah for the yiddeshe sailors to race and party during the nine days than c'v some chareidi to go to the public beach afterwards during bein hazmanim and see a woman in a normal bathing suit. We can accomodate both sides without creating a chilul hashem. ”
You are totally totally wrong! Shmires Einyim is a Isir DeOirysa not havig fun in the 9 days is only a Rabunim Minhag...
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Apr 21, 2010 at 03:31 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ It would be a much greater aveyrah for the yiddeshe sailors to race and party during the nine days than c'v some chareidi to go to the public beach afterwards during bein hazmanim and see a woman in a normal bathing suit. We can accomodate both sides without creating a chilul hashem. ”
Oh, really? What aveira is it to race during the 9 days? Where does it say that one shouldn't? And since when will these racers not party during the 9 days anyway, whether there's a race on or not?
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Apr 21, 2010 at 03:55 PM SimchaB Says:Report as Inappropriate
Reply to #14: There is no word for normal in Loshon Hakodesh. The standard female bathing suit named after a Pacific island when first worn was quite a scandal. Now you approvingly call it normal! How much pritzus must you have gazed at to have stooped so low?!
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Apr 21, 2010 at 04:20 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Oh, really? What aveira is it to race during the 9 days? Where does it say that one shouldn't? And since when will these racers not party during the 9 days anyway, whether there's a race on or not? ”
Do you mourn the churban bayis on a racing yacht with your chevrah and then go drinking afterwards at the post-race party? I guess the litvisjh minhagim of avoiding swimming, parties, eating meat and drinking alcoholic beverages are slightly different than those "on-board" mourning practices followed by your chassidus.
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Apr 21, 2010 at 04:21 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Reply to #1: Why don't you go brech! Did you read the article? They don't go swimming all year! This closure comes right after the 3 weeks and during Bain Hazmanim. ”
"Why don't you go brech!"
Why don't you use your Bain Hazmanim to learn some Derech Eretz which obviously you are not learning in your yeshiva.
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Apr 22, 2010 at 02:26 AM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Do you mourn the churban bayis on a racing yacht with your chevrah and then go drinking afterwards at the post-race party? I guess the litvisjh minhagim of avoiding swimming, parties, eating meat and drinking alcoholic beverages are slightly different than those "on-board" mourning practices followed by your chassidus. ”
There is no minhag, whether by litvaks or anyone else, of avoiding alcoholic beverages in the 9 days. None. Nor is there any requirement to party after a race. There is certainly no issur to race during the 9 days. So even if these racers were observant (which they're not) there's no reason not to schedule the race during the period when the beach is not in use.
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Apr 22, 2010 at 09:07 AM The Red Haifar Says:Report as Inappropriate
Give it up fellows, *5 is right, there is nothing to kvetch about unless you are paranoid and just looking for something to kvetch about. Kiryat Chaim is not far away and is easy to get to, and its only for a few days.
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Apr 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Reply to #14: There is no word for normal in Loshon Hakodesh. The standard female bathing suit named after a Pacific island when first worn was quite a scandal. Now you approvingly call it normal! How much pritzus must you have gazed at to have stooped so low?! ”
YOU seem to be the one who is an expert on women's bathing suits. YOU go so far as to tell the VIN readers what it is named for and it's history. Me thinks it is YOU who haved gazed at it too long.
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Apr 23, 2010 at 11:13 AM surfer Says:Report as Inappropriate
It only goes to show the insesitivity of secular jews to religious jews. It a ubiquitous phenomenon that can only be understood in a lifetime of observation. A person concludes there is no religion hence religious people have no need for a separate beach hence I do no wrong by refusing them this convenience. Because this mayor does not believe that modesty is one of the purposes of creation his family will be the first to fall into severe immodesty then he will beg Hashem to come back.
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Apr 26, 2010 at 11:27 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Reply to #3: Don't you think Torah Jews should be accomodated by a state that owes it's existence to G-d choosing the Jewish people and giving them the land. ”
No your claims are nonsense. This did not happen, and non religious Jews know. Get real, and read a book of biblical criticism, You know the ones they banned you from reading in the yeshiva.