Libya – Gaddafi: Zionism Is The Problem, Not Jews

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    Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, right walks with Comoros President Ahmed Mohamed Sambi, center, after his arrival at the Sirte airport to attend the upcoming Arab League summit in Sirte, Libya, Friday, March 26, 2010. (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)Libya – The Israeli delegation of six Knesset members that visited Libya met for three hours Sunday evening with Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. MK Talab el-Sana (United Arab List-Taal) told Ynet that the meeting had been open and friendly, and that Gaddafi had agreed to their request to allow Arab students from Israel to study in Libya.

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    “The Libyan leader emphasized the significance of our visit and noted that he has nothing against Jews, but against Zionism,” el-Sana said.

    “We are not against Jews, but we have a problem with Zionism and Zionist leaders who oppress the Palestinians, and also you, Arabs of ’48,” Gaddafi said during the meeting, using the common Arab appellation for Israel’s Palestinian citizens. “We didn’t massacre Jews, it was the west that did that. We gave them refuge.”

    The Libyan leader also said that the occupation “will bring disaster upon the Israeli entity,” adding to his guests, “We invited you because your voices are not being heard, and I want the world to hear you.”

    Two-state solution ‘unrealistic’

    Gaddafi repeated his vision of one state for Arabs and Jews, a vision known as “Isratine”, and said that Israel’s Arabs must “multiply” to counter any “plots” to expel them.

    “Israel will never be a pure Jewish state in this region,” Gaddafi said. “Its leaders are leading it to the edge of the precipice. I think the solution is one state with elections held under UN supervision. The solution of two states for two peoples is stupid and unrealistic.”

    “Zionism takes anti-Semitism in order to suppress all criticism of itself. We, a Semitic nation, and you also, fall victim to this behavior.”

    Gaddafi also said that the Israeli regime, by failing to promote peace, is promoting war. “Warmongering just before elections because it helps one party or another is illegitimate; you can’t just sacrifice the lives of innocent civilians.”

    The solution which will bring peace to the region, he said, is one democratic state for two peoples, the right of return for the refugees, and making the region free of nuclear weapons.


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    His head is my problem not his body take it off the rest u can leave!!!!!!!!! This guy is a mental case they didn’t have place for him in the institution so he became president!!!!!!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    he is right! the problem is zionizm not jews! if all ppl in the world will know this, it will defently br much less anti-semitic attacks over the world!!!

    frum but normal
    frum but normal
    13 years ago

    sounds exactly like our friends in satmar and neturai karta

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Even a meshugene says some truth sometimes

    Eli
    Eli
    13 years ago

    Hitler ym”s, if survived the war, would have used the same excuse.
    This is the latest trend among anti-semites and the self hating Netire Karta

    Zion is Jewish
    Zion is Jewish
    13 years ago

    This nonsense has been said before from the mouth of other evil people. Zionism = Judaism and Judaism = Zionism, always has and always will.

    Leib from Kentucky
    Leib from Kentucky
    13 years ago

    Well said. We know this long ago from the great holy Satmar rebbe z”l, jews are not the issue….it’s zionism…….

    power up
    power up
    13 years ago

    Gaddafi, when your right, your right

    old Chosid
    old Chosid
    13 years ago

    our old Gedolim and rabies had cried 50-60 years ago to tell that statement for the nations around the world. finally we start hearing that. lets hope the rest of the world will recognize the same

    satmar
    satmar
    13 years ago

    He is crazy, but he made a good point,,,
    We all know it, but the problem is we have the polticly correct leaders who r afraid 2 acnowledge it,,
    Look how much yidish blood we lost allready in eretz yiroal r”l

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    One of the reasons Zionism is bad, is because it claims that a person can be a Jew without the Torah, and many fell away because of this.”  
    “It is not because they are Zionists that they are evildoers. It is because they are evildoers that they are Zionists.”

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Go ask the Libyan Jews, they were kicked out of Libya only cause they are Jews.
    There were pogroms in Libya against the Jews.

    Yes Hitler would have said the same thing.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    I say we pay our respect to this humble & loving person named Khadafi, how about we arrange a trip to Libya for a few unemployed loosers of the Neturei Karta? Ahmedinejad has already lost his interest in those fools, how about we get Khadafi on board?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    He happens to be pretty on the mark, though his country was not quite the haven he makes it out to be.

    Were the UN actually capable *and willing* to enforce order and safeguard the lives of the millions four brethren who live there, his proposal would actually solve a lot of problems, with G-d’s help.

    Unfortunately, it is pretty apparent that the UN would do whatever it could to Islamize the area, regardless of cost in Jewish blood and money, Ch”V.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    a shod this statment comes from a meshigener, looks like othe presidents are affred to say it

    Torah Jew
    Torah Jew
    13 years ago

    If you would have told me that I would have agreed with Gaddafi, I would have said you were crazy but he is 100% right on this ! The sooner the state ceases to exist in its current form the better off ALL Jews will be! May HKBH speedily send Messiach!

    ZIONIST
    ZIONIST
    13 years ago

    this article makes it sound as if the “israeli delegation” were jews .They are arab traitors serving in the israeli knesset and being called upon not to be able to serve again for traveling to an enemy country without authorization
    DEAR BROTHERS PLEASE REMEMBER: ANTI ZIONISM =ANTI SEMITISM

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    This guy is nuts

    menachem
    menachem
    13 years ago

    so maybe we should just invite the arabs in and turn over the country to them and then all will be well ,no more massacres or pogroms everyone will love and protect us,,,,,,,,,,,wishful thinking

    mayor lindsay and the satmar rebbe
    mayor lindsay and the satmar rebbe
    13 years ago

    One year when Mayor John Lindsay was on an election campaign, he had a meeting with the old satmar rebbe zatzal. The gaboim told him not to mention Israel. When he was in the meeting he mentioned that he supports Israel. The rebbe instructed the chasidim to vote for him. When the rebbe was asked how they can vote for someone who supports the zionist conspiracy, he said that a goy that is anti israel is an anti semite. Vehameivin yovin.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    I luv Yidden I luve Eretz Yisroel, because Im a yid. I dont luv goyim, this mamzer would never save me, but the IDF in eretz Yisroel will. Whos side do you think Im on? A yids a Yid, and so is Eretz Yisroel. This isnt old Zionism, and Yidden in eretz Yisroel dont associate with it anymore, we associate with Torah and shevach Vehodaa to Hashem that we are able to live in Eretz Yisroel and we love every Yid, not some Homo who has no Torah to back what he says except for hatred!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    (Reply to 31) sorry, but no one is saying that goyim will love us if israel wouldn’t exist, programs was in europe and every whwre much before the people who made israel was alive, BUT the face is that today the reason why all arab are fighting against israel and against US and every one who are on israel side, is just because of israel, no one is saying that with out israel it would not be anti semit people out there, its haluce that a goy hate a jew, but when you have a land that are called a jewish land, and is fighting against the arab from the begining of its creation, that’s totaly different.

    volvy
    volvy
    13 years ago

    It looks like he learned v’yoel mosha. He is 100% right

    Sol
    Sol
    13 years ago

    Kudos to the “Netruna” org. for getting the message out.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Some of those who flatter zionists justify themselves as “loving each fellow Jew”.
    They claim that one may not hate any other Jew. and hence attack those who take an unequivocal stand in this issue and will not be influenced by falsifiers.
    Their attitude is the exact opposite of the Torah view, for there could be no worse hatred of fellow Jews than to flatter and love those evil people who have caused thousands and tens of thousands to forsake their religion (may Hashem spare us).
    If they had out rightly murdered them there would be no debate as to whether one may hate them. Since one who causes another to sin is worse than one who murders another person, and these people have caused such a rift in the entire Jewish people, one who loves them, hates all those unfortunate souls who have been murdered in this world and the next by these sinners.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    RE;# 9 . A wandering Leib . Right now he is in Kentucky on his way to Lybia .

    to 35
    to 35
    13 years ago
    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    It’s similar to what I’ve been saying for a long time: Moslems aren’t the problem, Islam is the problem.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    This was not only the opinion of the Vyoel Moshe, but also of the previous
    Lubavitcher Rebbe the Marshab, Reb Elchonon Wasserman, the previous
    Belzer Rebbe Reb Yissoscher Dov, Munkatcher Rebbe,the Minchas Eluzer,
    the Brisker Rov and all the the prewar Aguda.
    The Medina is antagonizing the Nations of the World, Hashem did not give
    the Land of Isreal to the Jews, we must wait for Moshiach.
    The Gov’t of Israel, is causing antisemetism in the world, and in addition is
    responsible for the thousands of Neshamas that are lost to Klall Yisroel.
    The Aguda and all the religious Zionist, “thought” that they would work
    within the gov’t and thus help Frum Yidden in Israel.
    Aside from the fact that the entire State is Keneged Hatorah, it is quite
    obvious that the State of Israel was founded to eradicate any trace of
    Yiddishkeit, they wanted it to be a “nation” like all secular nations in the
    world.
    They took advantage of the Holocaust, as previous Zionists claimed,
    “Only with blood will we attain a land…”
    We frum, Yidden, should declare our subservience to Hashem, and
    recognize that until Hashem will redeem us, and wait for the Geula
    Sheleima Bimheira Boyomeinu Amen.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    No. 49. You are banding the Minchas Eluzer and the Agudah under the same umbrella . He compared the Agudah to Zionism . He allegedly once remarked : Zionistn , Mizrachistn and Agudistn Yemach Shmom V.zichrom .

    MyThoughts
    MyThoughts
    13 years ago

    Zionism is not ideal. We must wait for Moshiach for the true Geulah.
    Having said that, who may I ask of all those who wish the downfall of the Israeli gov., should be the one to take over?
    Should it be the Arabs who would kill all the Jews c”v were they given a chance, or maybe the so called “peacekeepers”, the Europeans (not only the Germans, but the Poles, the Ukranians, and other nations) who only sixty years ago, gassed and killed the Jews and plundered their property?
    Take your pick. I challenge the anti-Zionists to answer me whom they choose to govern the Jews in Israel.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    It’s very heartening to see so many Jews enthusiastically agreeing with the words of this anti-Semitic murderer.

    If all you guys who are so excitedly bobbing your heads up and down in agreement were to disappear, this lunatic would throw a party.

    Zionist
    Zionist
    13 years ago

    Even the Satmar Rebbe ztl held that Eretz Yisroel can not be ruled by Arabs because they are Rozchim.
    There is a famous story about the Rashas, that a Mullah confiede to him that he once beheaded someone and this gave him the most hanaoh of anything he ever did.
    Its a shame that so many posters here are so ignorant of Jewish history. In Tunisia during the war, Jews were deported to the concentration camps. In 1840, in Damascus, long before political Zionism was born, there was a blood libel and pogroms. How about 1929 in Chevron, anti-ZIonist yeshivah students and their wives and children were killed and raped.
    Their “prophet” in Arabia killed off vast Jewish tribes, who had made peace with him and submitted to his rule, and he too a 4 year old Jewish girl for his “wife.”
    Look up what the Rambam has to say about them. Even on Tisha B’av, one of the pi’utim we say is how they poisoned us after the Churban Bayis Sheni with flasks of water which contained petroleum.
    Martin Luther king understood this and said that anti-Zionism is a code word for anti-Semitism.
    What a deep golus we are in if religious Jews think the Rotzeach Meshuganah Gaddafi will save Jewish Lives. Hashem Yerachem.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    ידוע שעשיו שונא את יעקב –
    א שיכור זאגט אויך איך בין נישט שיכור

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    # 49 , Very well said . Maran HAGH”K M’SATMAR ZY”A was the Gadol Hador in all aspects of the gimmel devorim the world stands on (Torah , Avoda, &Gemilas; Chassadim) & was Daas Torah. whatever he said then about tzionim & the medina is happening now & everybody sees it . let’s hope for the Geula Shleima Bimhera !

    Dovid from Modiin
    Dovid from Modiin
    13 years ago

    anti-Zionism is a code word for anti-Semitism.

    Big difference
    Big difference
    13 years ago

    There is a big difference when a yid is anti zionist or a goy is anti zionist. I heard that the previous Satmarer Rebbe Zatz”al once said that a goy who is anti zionist, is an anti semite!

    yitzchokaizik
    yitzchokaizik
    13 years ago

    make no mistake – Gaddafi wants wall Yidn (zionist or not) dead, really dead. He is saying that just to manipulate us. (and I hear some Sinas Chinam in the talkbacks … someone correct me if I am wrong)

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    No one has supported more torah than the anti-torah zionists. They have have done what they did with good intentions because we know that megalgilim zechus al yedai zaka I’m sorry, I love and revere the memory of the satmar ruv, ztk”l, but the zechus of having a share in every one of the thousands of blatt gemorah learned in the yeshivos in eretz yisroel every single day, millions of blatt a year, ended up by the fri’ir tzi’onim.

    Could they gave gotten this zechus for being complete resho’im???

    AP
    AP
    13 years ago

    The fact is that he is a crazy, anti-semitic jew hater, that uses Zionism to fuel arab hatred.
    Another fact is, that there were Kol korehs issued a hundred years ago signed by chassisdishe and litvishe rabbonim opposing Zionism, before the satmar rebbe was even a rav. This was at a time when Kol Korehs were not a dime a dozen. The orthodox rabbis saw zionism as a threat to orthodox judaism, and rightfully so, even more than reformed judaism. Why don’t you just ask any Agudah rav today what they think of secular zionism. They will speak the devil of what they were so enthusiastic about 65 years ago.

    MyThoughts
    MyThoughts
    13 years ago

    Nu, no anti-Tzionist answered answered my question in post #59 . If you can’t answer that question, why do you hock a chainik?

    David
    David
    13 years ago

    Yeah, yeah, Zionism is the problem, of course. And we have this on the authority of that paragon of moral virtue, intellectual achievement and sartorial magnificence…. Moammar Qaddafi? Why did this even merit an article?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    About what he said of the so called “refugee problem” he and the rest of the arab contries are being hyprocites cause they for sure threw out their jews after israel declared its sovreinty and they never mentioned of letting them back or giving back what was stolen from them if israel lets the “refugees” back in.(besides the so called refugees left on their own cause they thought israel will lose the war and that they will return).

    Shani109@aol.com
    13 years ago

    Where will you all run to, if we have to leave the U.S. one day? If not Eretz Yisroel? To Libya, iran?