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Published on: May 26, 2010 03:52 PM
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'Fatwa on your head?' Anti-Islam ad seen on side of bus on Central Park South.'Fatwa on your head?' Anti-Islam ad seen on side of bus on Central Park South.

New York - The questions on the ads aren’t subtle: Leaving Islam? Fatwa on your head? Is your family threatening you?

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Ads carrying those phrases are appearing on at least 30 New York City buses, paid for by a conservative activist and the organizations she leads.

The activist, Pamela Geller, says the ads are aimed at Muslims who are already contemplating leaving the faith.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority says the ads don’t violate any of its guidelines. They went up May 14 and are scheduled to come down in a couple of weeks.

Faiza Ali of the New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations says they are a smokescreen for an anti-Muslim agenda.


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 May 26, 2010 at 04:17 PM Anonymous Says:

"... Faiza Ali of the New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations says they are a smokescreen for an anti-Muslim agenda. ..."

CAIR is a "smokescreen" for terrorism (i.e. Hamas).

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 May 26, 2010 at 04:27 PM fyi Says:

and the Council on American-Islamic relations is a very weak smokescreen for anti- American & anti-human activities!

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 May 26, 2010 at 04:33 PM professor Says:

Sadly, the message will probably prove correct when Islamic radicals threaten violence due to the ad.

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 May 26, 2010 at 04:37 PM here we go again Says:

Watch them boycott the MTA and protest around the world!

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 May 26, 2010 at 04:43 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
professor Says:

Sadly, the message will probably prove correct when Islamic radicals threaten violence due to the ad.

What are you a "professor" of, retardation?

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 May 26, 2010 at 04:49 PM Anonymous Says:

what is it different than any missionary advertisement?

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 May 26, 2010 at 04:58 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
here we go again Says:

Watch them boycott the MTA and protest around the world!

I hope they boycott the MTA. That would leave more seats available for the rest of us.

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 May 26, 2010 at 05:01 PM Anonymous Says:

IMHO these ads are offensive. The MTA should be more sensitive to its riders. Contrary to a newspaper, where a person has the choce not tp buy the paper with the offensive ads. The MTA is a public neccesary vehicle and these offensive ads in your face are the equivalent to stuffing food down someone's throat.

Today its anti Muslim and tomorow these ads will be targeting frum kids. i.e. ready to quit Yiddishkeit? Parents on your head?...

If you disagree with me I can understand you because the fact is that we as a society have been a victim of Muslim Radicals. However my point is squarely pointed at the nature of the location and the reprecussions of not standing up against these ads.

Thanks for reading and sorry for my typo's.

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 May 26, 2010 at 05:01 PM Anonymous Says:

And the mosque across from ground zero is a smokescreen for ur insulting slap in the face murderous 'religeon'. What a moron. As long as there insulting other people its fine, as soon as they get insulted everyones a racist. What a sick people.

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 May 26, 2010 at 05:19 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
Anonymous Says:

I hope they boycott the MTA. That would leave more seats available for the rest of us.

and less suicide bombers on the bus

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 May 26, 2010 at 05:55 PM Anonymous Says:

Obviously the ads are anti Men, they advocate leaving your man yet there is no outcry from any male group.
The only outcry is from the poor, ready to be dumped junior terrorists.

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 May 26, 2010 at 05:56 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

and less suicide bombers on the bus

Or they just might bomb the bus.

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 May 26, 2010 at 05:58 PM Anonymous Says:

Don't the J4Js pull this every once in awhile? Welcome to the club.

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 May 26, 2010 at 06:20 PM Y-Love Says:

Kudos and respect to #8. Exactly. And I'll go further and say that it would be offensive in a newspaper as well. It's just not a good precedent to set: "Hey, kids, are you sick of your religious background? Well come to become-secular-now.com" as being accepted advertising...

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 May 26, 2010 at 06:40 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

"... Faiza Ali of the New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations says they are a smokescreen for an anti-Muslim agenda. ..."

CAIR is a "smokescreen" for terrorism (i.e. Hamas).

Just because CAIR is a horrible organization doesn't make these ads any less horrible. These ads are ridiculous and any missionary organization needs to be stopped before they can spread. If nothing is done then next thing you know they're targeting Jews.

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 May 26, 2010 at 07:03 PM Anon Ibid Opcit Says:

If the same ads were targeted at Jews everyone here would be furious.

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 May 26, 2010 at 07:09 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

Just because CAIR is a horrible organization doesn't make these ads any less horrible. These ads are ridiculous and any missionary organization needs to be stopped before they can spread. If nothing is done then next thing you know they're targeting Jews.

the next?! I'm assuming if you're writing you were not born yesterday:)

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 May 26, 2010 at 08:33 PM Milhouse Says:

Reply to #16  
Anon Ibid Opcit Says:

If the same ads were targeted at Jews everyone here would be furious.

And therefore? Because we'd be upset if someone did this to us, therefore we should also be upset when it's done to our enemies?! What sense does that make? We are not the same as them, and we must never forget it. שלא עשנו כגויי הארצות

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 May 26, 2010 at 09:49 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #17  
Anonymous Says:

the next?! I'm assuming if you're writing you were not born yesterday:)

I meant target us with advertisements like these. I've dealt with more than enough missionaries to know that they target Jews more than anyone else.

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 May 26, 2010 at 10:16 PM Anonymous Says:

To 8, 14, 15, 16. Sorry - you're wrong on this one. Someone contemplating leaving Islam is often in real mortal danger. They really do need assistance. There is no comparison at all.

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 May 26, 2010 at 11:08 PM Brucey Halbtuch Says:

Reply to #11  
Anonymous Says:

Obviously the ads are anti Men, they advocate leaving your man yet there is no outcry from any male group.
The only outcry is from the poor, ready to be dumped junior terrorists.

Yes, these ads are anti men. I was thinking of leaving my spouse too so I called the number and got an earfull of anti-men and anti-Islam. I didn't leave him in the end.

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 May 27, 2010 at 01:24 AM lots of background to the story Says:

for more background to the story - and to understand it within context - check out Pamela Geller's website atlas shrugs - it has an unbelievable amount of information that every Jew should know.. for example, how the Nazi's were inspired by the Mufti (muslim/arabs), and not that muslims were just "collaborators".

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 May 27, 2010 at 12:35 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #15  
Anonymous Says:

Just because CAIR is a horrible organization doesn't make these ads any less horrible. These ads are ridiculous and any missionary organization needs to be stopped before they can spread. If nothing is done then next thing you know they're targeting Jews.

How about a poster that says, "If you hate Islam and its violence...honk your horn"

That would be a better poster on the bus.

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 May 27, 2010 at 12:34 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #8  
Anonymous Says:

IMHO these ads are offensive. The MTA should be more sensitive to its riders. Contrary to a newspaper, where a person has the choce not tp buy the paper with the offensive ads. The MTA is a public neccesary vehicle and these offensive ads in your face are the equivalent to stuffing food down someone's throat.

Today its anti Muslim and tomorow these ads will be targeting frum kids. i.e. ready to quit Yiddishkeit? Parents on your head?...

If you disagree with me I can understand you because the fact is that we as a society have been a victim of Muslim Radicals. However my point is squarely pointed at the nature of the location and the reprecussions of not standing up against these ads.

Thanks for reading and sorry for my typo's.

Nonsense. Leaving the Islamic faith has proven to be dangerous to the life of the apostolic...This is a deadly issue to prevent abuse of these innocent people, although frankly, overt messages of bias against the Islamic theocracy is genuinely worthy of public display, Islam is flat out dangerous.,,like in bang bang ... your dead.

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 May 27, 2010 at 12:18 AM Milhouse Says:

Reply to #19  
Anonymous Says:

I meant target us with advertisements like these. I've dealt with more than enough missionaries to know that they target Jews more than anyone else.

What has this got to do with missionaries? These are not missionaries, they're mostly Jews.

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 May 27, 2010 at 02:23 AM Paskunyak Says:

Reply to #23  
Anonymous Says:

How about a poster that says, "If you hate Islam and its violence...honk your horn"

That would be a better poster on the bus.

There are enough loonatics in New York honking their horns. Why do you think that I'm awake at 3:00 posting comments on VIN?

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 May 27, 2010 at 08:18 AM Yoel Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

Nonsense. Leaving the Islamic faith has proven to be dangerous to the life of the apostolic...This is a deadly issue to prevent abuse of these innocent people, although frankly, overt messages of bias against the Islamic theocracy is genuinely worthy of public display, Islam is flat out dangerous.,,like in bang bang ... your dead.

You made me smile. You don't mean "apostolic"; you mean "apostate". "Apostolic" has almost the opposite meaning of your intent (although it is an adjective, and it has a x-ian inference).
You should buy yourself a dictionary, a good investment.

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 May 27, 2010 at 08:28 AM Yoel Says:

Reply to #26  
Paskunyak Says:

There are enough loonatics in New York honking their horns. Why do you think that I'm awake at 3:00 posting comments on VIN?

Do you mean "lunatics" by any chance. A "loonatic" would be (maybe) somebody who behaves like a loon (the bird). They are known for shrieking in the middle of the night so maybe your mistake is prescient.

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 May 27, 2010 at 09:35 AM Yehuda Says:

Reply to #18  
Milhouse Says:

And therefore? Because we'd be upset if someone did this to us, therefore we should also be upset when it's done to our enemies?! What sense does that make? We are not the same as them, and we must never forget it. שלא עשנו כגויי הארצות

Exactly. If we want to be taken seriously by the larger public when we complain about things done to use, we have to be out in front when things are done to our enemies. (Personally, I have no problem with this ad. As much as I would be upset about an ad targeted at Jews, I wouldn't spend any time or emotional energy fighting that either.)

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 May 27, 2010 at 12:00 PM Milhouse Says:

So this is about tactics, not principles? It's about building up credibility with the public, to be used when we have an issue? In that case people can differ on tactics. I think standing up for the Moslems would do the exact opposite of what you claim. Rather than building our public credibility it would blow it; by standing up for them we become associated with them in the public mind, and that can't do us any good. Do we want normal Americans to associate Jews with yet another leftist cause supporting America's enemies?

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 May 27, 2010 at 03:17 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #5  
Anonymous Says:

What are you a "professor" of, retardation?

He happens to be right. Wake up and smell the coffee.

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 May 30, 2010 at 08:16 PM anti-everything Says:

Would be better as a secular or mutli-denominational appeal -and not targeting Islam per-se.

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