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A sign The Jewish Museum of Turkey, which is housed in the former Zulfaris SynagogueTurkey - The Jewish community in Turkey announced they received with regret the Israeli attack against Mavi Marmara and said they back the protests in Turkey.
The Chief Rabbi of the Jewish Community in Turkey made a statement, saying tehy have received with sadness the military intervention against the Mavi Marmara vessel.
The statement said “We share the reaction in our country against this kind of final of the initiative and express our sadness to the public.”
Meanwhile Acting Prime Minister Bulent Arinc of Turkey said on Monday that there was no hostility against Jewish citizens living in Turkey.
Arinc held a press conference in Ankara and said that a threat against Jewish citizens never took place in Turkey and 70 million Turkish people did not have hostility against Jewish citizens.
“I believe that the people who gathered in front of embassy (of Israel) in Ankara and Istanbul aimed to express their deep sorrow (over Israel’s attack on ships carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza). They will not make any harm,” he said.
Arinc said, “all we know that Israel has used disproportionate force in Palestine and Gaza and other regions from time to time. Innocent people, women, children and families suffered. Turkish people were always beside innocent people.”
Replying to a question, Arinc said three joint exercises earlier planned to be performed with Israel were cancelled.
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May 31, 2010 at 06:31 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Bunch of whiney wimpy Jews...when their host country starts burning down their shuls we'll see them run to Israel for protection.,,,
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May 31, 2010 at 06:36 PM Texas Eli Says:Report as Inappropriate
The ghetto mentality lives on...
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May 31, 2010 at 06:45 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Stop judging, what would you say in their position? They have families to protect and DON'T want their shuls burnt down. What happened to al tadoon es chavercha??
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May 31, 2010 at 06:46 PM יולי Says:Report as Inappropriate
To #1 the Jewish community in turkey did the right thing do u want that the goverment in turkey should turn against the Jews there????
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May 31, 2010 at 06:51 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
What the world don't understand about Israel is, that they are always in a position of self defense. No country he's that challenge! Think about it.
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May 31, 2010 at 06:55 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
What choice do they have but to say that?
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May 31, 2010 at 06:56 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
This way was already used by our sage Yakov Uviny when he encountered the hatred of Iesuv Hurusha. And since then jews thru out history had the same "ghetto mentality"... Acutely this is the Toirah way.
It only ended for the majority of jews (zionists) when the new meaning of a jew popped up from the secular jews in Germany.
And we all know how it ended
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May 31, 2010 at 06:58 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Bunch of whiney wimpy Jews...when their host country starts burning down their shuls we'll see them run to Israel for protection.,,, ”
These "whiney wimpy Jews" are doing what is right according to the Torah.
Yakov Avinu was also a "whiney wimpy Jew" and the Tora Tells us
"Maasei Avos Simon Labonim". When Eisav was approaching Yakov,
Yakov behaved subservient.
Hashem should protect the Jews in Turkey, all over the Galus, including
in Eretz Yisroel.
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May 31, 2010 at 06:59 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ The ghetto mentality lives on... ”
As long as we are in Galus, the ghetto mentality will live on.
We should all pray for Moshiach to redeem us.
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May 31, 2010 at 07:00 PM whaaat? Says:Report as Inappropriate
To #1 and #2 What should the Jews of turkey do? They should dance that their countrymen died?. I think that rabbi said a very appropriate statement.
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May 31, 2010 at 07:00 PM Come on Says:Report as Inappropriate
Why does everyone think that all these Hamas loving meshuganas are Turkish and now we have to play nice with Turkey?
Just because the boats came from there?
Grow some!
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May 31, 2010 at 07:00 PM Q Says:Report as Inappropriate
You idiots! (#1 and #2)
Do you think he has a choice? You think Istanbul is Flatbush, and he can call some talk show and mouth off against the gov't? You think it is meah shaarim and yiddin can burn the country's flag and attack it and work with those who seek to destroy it and keep getting gov't services and protection?
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May 31, 2010 at 07:16 PM Meir Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Bunch of whiney wimpy Jews...when their host country starts burning down their shuls we'll see them run to Israel for protection.,,, ”
I have been there - they are a few Jews surrounded by millons of Muslims. The main shul has already been attacked twice with fatalities. You are very brave - go there and see their kiddush hashem and mesiras nefesh.
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May 31, 2010 at 07:18 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Bunch of whiney wimpy Jews...when their host country starts burning down their shuls we'll see them run to Israel for protection.,,, ”
No 1: Are you backseat driving from the comfort of your home in Monsey or some other safe spot? Tell us how many years you served in the IDF. Surely you at least served in the U.S. military since you don't like wusses.
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May 31, 2010 at 07:20 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Did any of you ever consider that there can be genuine differences of opinion among well-meaning jews?
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May 31, 2010 at 07:20 PM I was in Istanbul Says:Report as Inappropriate
Going to shul in Istanbul, is not like going to Shul in Broro Parak, you have to walk with Baseball Cap, you must fax in your Passport Thursday night. there was a few terorists acts against the shuls in the last few years so yes it can be scary to show your Jewishness \ Judiasim in Turkey.
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May 31, 2010 at 07:23 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ What choice do they have but to say that? ”
How about Silence? Even a fool seems wise if he remains silent.
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May 31, 2010 at 07:24 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ To #1 and #2 What should the Jews of turkey do? They should dance that their countrymen died?. I think that rabbi said a very appropriate statement. ”
Countrymen? That's the problem, they see Turks as their countrymen much as the German Jews saw German goyim as theirs.
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May 31, 2010 at 07:27 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Did these protesters think it is a game wimpy Israel was going to let them in?
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May 31, 2010 at 07:29 PM Rabbi Pinchos Woolstone Says:Report as Inappropriate
The Rabbi had no alternative, saying the opposite could have placed the lives of the Jews in Turkey in mortal danger.
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May 31, 2010 at 07:30 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ You idiots! (#1 and #2)
Do you think he has a choice? You think Istanbul is Flatbush, and he can call some talk show and mouth off against the gov't? You think it is meah shaarim and yiddin can burn the country's flag and attack it and work with those who seek to destroy it and keep getting gov't services and protection? ”
well said...they are protecting their behinds with a gun to their head.
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May 31, 2010 at 08:05 PM formally Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ This way was already used by our sage Yakov Uviny when he encountered the hatred of Iesuv Hurusha. And since then jews thru out history had the same "ghetto mentality"... Acutely this is the Toirah way.
It only ended for the majority of jews (zionists) when the new meaning of a jew popped up from the secular jews in Germany.
And we all know how it ended ”
yes yes
and this is way the ultra orthodox got murdered in a much great proportion than the secular Jews.
Stop blaming the holocaust on the Zionist that is a idiotic thing to say if one studies history. yes I know who said that and I really do not care I disagree him.
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May 31, 2010 at 08:08 PM formally Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ This way was already used by our sage Yakov Uviny when he encountered the hatred of Iesuv Hurusha. And since then jews thru out history had the same "ghetto mentality"... Acutely this is the Toirah way.
It only ended for the majority of jews (zionists) when the new meaning of a jew popped up from the secular jews in Germany.
And we all know how it ended ”
if you read his statement he did not say Israel should not have bordered, he said he is sorry for the outcome.
What is wrong with that. I can say the NYC police had a right to raid an apartment but feel bad people where killed
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May 31, 2010 at 08:11 PM Like the story of the Russian Jews Says:Report as Inappropriate
They wrote the letter with Red ink as the blue ink was finished. Vehamavin yovin.
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May 31, 2010 at 08:57 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ This way was already used by our sage Yakov Uviny when he encountered the hatred of Iesuv Hurusha. And since then jews thru out history had the same "ghetto mentality"... Acutely this is the Toirah way.
It only ended for the majority of jews (zionists) when the new meaning of a jew popped up from the secular jews in Germany.
And we all know how it ended ”
Dancing mah yofis is NOT the Toirah way. It's a chilul haShem. Unfortunately sometimes there's no choice; you have to say what the goy tells you to, and hope that the whole world realises what you really mean. This Chief Rabbi is like a hostage with a gun pointed at his head, and reading a script; he is not responsible for the lies he tells, and you know that he means the exact opposite.
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May 31, 2010 at 08:58 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ These "whiney wimpy Jews" are doing what is right according to the Torah.
Yakov Avinu was also a "whiney wimpy Jew" and the Tora Tells us
"Maasei Avos Simon Labonim". When Eisav was approaching Yakov,
Yakov behaved subservient.
Hashem should protect the Jews in Turkey, all over the Galus, including
in Eretz Yisroel. ”
Yaacov prepared for WAR. Fortunately he didn't need it; buying the enemy off worked. But he was no wimp, no mah-yoffis yid.
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May 31, 2010 at 08:59 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ To #1 and #2 What should the Jews of turkey do? They should dance that their countrymen died?. I think that rabbi said a very appropriate statement. ”
Yes, in their hearts they should be dancing, and I hope they are. These are not "their countrymen"; they are vicious antisemites, and a Jew's first loyalty must be to Am Yisroel. But in public they have to say what they need to in order not to be killed.
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May 31, 2010 at 09:00 PM Milhouse Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Did any of you ever consider that there can be genuine differences of opinion among well-meaning jews? ”
No, there can not be. Not about this. A Jew who supports Hamas is a traitor. But a hostage is not responsible for what he says; the Jewish leaders of Germany said the same things in the '30s, for the same reason: they had no choice.
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May 31, 2010 at 06:44 PM Truth Says:Report as Inappropriate
Look at the weapons found on the ship http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvS9PXZ3RWM - get as many people as possible to watch this clip - send to everyone you know
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May 31, 2010 at 08:20 PM stand tall Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ These "whiney wimpy Jews" are doing what is right according to the Torah.
Yakov Avinu was also a "whiney wimpy Jew" and the Tora Tells us
"Maasei Avos Simon Labonim". When Eisav was approaching Yakov,
Yakov behaved subservient.
Hashem should protect the Jews in Turkey, all over the Galus, including
in Eretz Yisroel. ”
what are you talking about, Yakov avinu was ready for WAR if Esav wouldnt make peace with him
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May 31, 2010 at 09:51 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Bunch of whiney wimpy Jews...when their host country starts burning down their shuls we'll see them run to Israel for protection.,,, ”
Were not wimps and I will never run to isreal I'm afraid after 120 they will throw my bones around I'm ammbarrased of the isrealis what's jewish about the state ? They don't even keep the torah laws in fact they're worse then the non jews who would never. Open graves and disturb the dead!
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May 31, 2010 at 10:00 PM formally Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Yaacov prepared for WAR. Fortunately he didn't need it; buying the enemy off worked. But he was no wimp, no mah-yoffis yid. ”
Yaacov was snot a wimp he did not say oh I will sit and learn and everything will work out. Know he was ready to fight,
but today's orthodox Jews are wimps and use the learning as an excuse not to go to the army shame they are not following yaacov
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May 31, 2010 at 10:01 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ yes yes
and this is way the ultra orthodox got murdered in a much great proportion than the secular Jews.
Stop blaming the holocaust on the Zionist that is a idiotic thing to say if one studies history. yes I know who said that and I really do not care I disagree him. ”
Yes it is the reason why the SECULAR with there nice hairdoos and suits thought the germans would like them better so they tryed to blend in with goyim by looking and acting like them to the point were u couldn't tell who was and who wasn't jewish. But hashem took care of that and all jews took responsobility. Orthodox secular liberals they all gotted died for being jewish
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May 31, 2010 at 10:04 PM formally Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Countrymen? That's the problem, they see Turks as their countrymen much as the German Jews saw German goyim as theirs. ”
I am a proud American and yes I proudly say my country men and am a proud Jew you have a problem with that I see.
You live in a country eat the fruits of their labor but do not consider them countrymen.
If I would not be a jew and thought that all Jews felt that way I would be an antisemitic too.
Luckily since your thinking is relegated to some of the ultra Orthodox your are of no consequence
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May 31, 2010 at 10:07 PM formally Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Yes it is the reason why the SECULAR with there nice hairdoos and suits thought the germans would like them better so they tryed to blend in with goyim by looking and acting like them to the point were u couldn't tell who was and who wasn't jewish. But hashem took care of that and all jews took responsobility. Orthodox secular liberals they all gotted died for being jewish ”
what is your point I do not understand many jews become non religious not because they want to fit in. They become non religious because they think the whole religion is just made up and the Torah was written by people and none of the things that it says really happened.
Sorry to burst your bubble but most Jews feel the Torah is a fairy tail
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May 31, 2010 at 10:28 PM reba Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Look at the weapons found on the ship http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvS9PXZ3RWM - get as many people as possible to watch this clip - send to everyone you know ”
I am not seeing weapons, am I missing something?
I see tools, building materials, piping, gas masks and safety flares (which are safety items in a country without power), kaffiyas (clothing) and knives. Knives are necessary tools, not really weapons.
I expected to see guns and ammunition from the posting. Were any guns other than those that were the personal possessions of the crew found on the ship? (All maritime officers throughout the world carry guns, that does not make it a munitions flotilla).
From this clip it appears as though the ship was carrying exactly what it was supposed to be. Building materials (Many Gaza families are homeless) to repair homes, clothing, medical and safety supplies, tools, and food
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May 31, 2010 at 10:35 PM modern orth Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Yaacov was snot a wimp he did not say oh I will sit and learn and everything will work out. Know he was ready to fight,
but today's orthodox Jews are wimps and use the learning as an excuse not to go to the army shame they are not following yaacov ”
I agree they hide behind the kollel, walk around filthy and sloppy and take charity meant for the real poor, they are raising generations of lazy non working people only looking for handouts from others in the name of torah
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May 31, 2010 at 11:13 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ Were not wimps and I will never run to isreal I'm afraid after 120 they will throw my bones around I'm ammbarrased of the isrealis what's jewish about the state ? They don't even keep the torah laws in fact they're worse then the non jews who would never. Open graves and disturb the dead! ”
You're an idiot and you're not a member of the Turkish community. Crawl back into your hole in Boro Park. You talk a good game now, but if you ever had to face what these people probably have to deal with every day you're anti-tzionyni self would probably be on the first plane to Tel Aviv.
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May 31, 2010 at 11:15 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I am not seeing weapons, am I missing something?
I see tools, building materials, piping, gas masks and safety flares (which are safety items in a country without power), kaffiyas (clothing) and knives. Knives are necessary tools, not really weapons.
I expected to see guns and ammunition from the posting. Were any guns other than those that were the personal possessions of the crew found on the ship? (All maritime officers throughout the world carry guns, that does not make it a munitions flotilla).
From this clip it appears as though the ship was carrying exactly what it was supposed to be. Building materials (Many Gaza families are homeless) to repair homes, clothing, medical and safety supplies, tools, and food ”
Daggers and machetes are not 'necessary tools' and neither are clubs and mismatched poles. They're weapons.
If you really think people in Gaza want some second hand machetes/knives/poles for their 'humanitarian needs', I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
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Jun 01, 2010 at 12:56 AM Liberalism is a Disease!!! Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ what is your point I do not understand many jews become non religious not because they want to fit in. They become non religious because they think the whole religion is just made up and the Torah was written by people and none of the things that it says really happened.
Sorry to burst your bubble but most Jews feel the Torah is a fairy tail ”
You may feel that way or tell yourself that you feel that way to make yourself not feel as bad for going against the Torah. Ive heard it from many people who BORUCH HASHEM have seen their mistakes and done t'shuva. You can also do t'shuva!
Sorry to burst YOUR bubble but someone had to tell it to you the way it is.
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Jun 01, 2010 at 12:58 AM Liberalism is a Disease!!! Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ I agree they hide behind the kollel, walk around filthy and sloppy and take charity meant for the real poor, they are raising generations of lazy non working people only looking for handouts from others in the name of torah ”
Watch what you say before HKBH CH"V punishes you Mida K'neged Mida. The only difference being that you wont be learning too much Torah.
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Jun 01, 2010 at 08:35 AM Ralph Says:Report as Inappropriate
Excuses, Jews in America are under no threat yet seventy eight percent voted for Obama knowing his disdain for Israel. To this day, majority of American Jews or even other Jews couldn't care less about Israel's five million Jews... Expendable...
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Jun 01, 2010 at 11:03 AM yehuda Says:Report as Inappropriate
this article probably originated from al-jazeera, so before you start bashing the jews of turkey keep in mind that its probably not true and even if it is, its only because their scared of the arabs in their country so they have to play along with them
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Jun 01, 2010 at 08:31 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ what is your point I do not understand many jews become non religious not because they want to fit in. They become non religious because they think the whole religion is just made up and the Torah was written by people and none of the things that it says really happened.
Sorry to burst your bubble but most Jews feel the Torah is a fairy tail ”
You know the difference between the Torah and a fairy-tale. Yet ,you don't know the difference between a tail and a tale . Ha .