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Washington - Abbas Tells U.S. Jews: I Would Never Deny Jewish Right to The Land of Israel

Published on: June 10, 2010 11:32 AM
By:  Haaretz
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President Barack Obama (R) holds a bilateral meeting with President Mahmoud Abbas (L) of the Palestinian Authority in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington DC, USA, 09 June 2010.  Obama is expected to urge Abbas to agree to direct talks with Israel as a partial ten-month moratorium on new West Bank settlement construction is currently due to expire in September 2010.  EPA/MICHAEL REYNOLDSPresident Barack Obama (R) holds a bilateral meeting with President Mahmoud Abbas (L) of the Palestinian Authority in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington DC, USA, 09 June 2010.  Obama is expected to urge Abbas to agree to direct talks with Israel as a partial ten-month moratorium on new West Bank settlement construction is currently due to expire in September 2010.  EPA/MICHAEL REYNOLDS

Washington - Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas told U.S. Jewish leaders on Wednesday that he would never deny Jews their right to the land of Israel, according to participants of the two-hour roundtable discussion.

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Some 30 Jewish leaders from organizations such as AIPAC, the Anti-Defamation League, and the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations took part in the Washington meeting, which focused mainly on the indirect peace talks and violent incitements.

“I am sure some people don’t agree with him but the fact that everybody showed up was pretty encouraging,” one of the participants told Haaretz..

The Palestinian president said during the discussion that he had in the past proposed creating a trilateral commission to monitor and punish incitement, but that Israel did not agree to it.

When asked what he could offer Israelis to show that he was serious about peace initiatives, Abbas reminded the participants that he had addressed the Israeli public in an interview on Channel 10. “Why wouldn’t Bibi go to Palestinian TV and do the same?” said the Palestinian president.

“I would never deny [the] Jewish right to the land of Israel,” Abbas then declared.

Later on Wednesday, Abbas told Charlie Rose in an interview on PBS that Israel must agree to ceding East Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital as a necessary precondition for any peace settlement.

“East Jerusalem is occupied territory. The entire world recognizes that including the United States of America,” Abbas told Rose. “We cannot accept any solution that excludes East Jerusalem.”

During that interview, Abbas also lauded Barack Obama’s administration and its efforts to bring forth a two-state solution.

“This is the first time we hear from a U.S. administration talking about that the solution of a two-state solution is in the vital interest of the United States,” said Abbas.

“The two-state solution is no longer only a Palestinian interest or an Israeli interest or a Middle East interest, but it is also an American interest.”


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 Jun 10, 2010 at 11:41 AM abbas Says:

as long as obma is president this is americas view but after one term when he will be replaced its going to change B"H

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 11:48 AM Anonymous Says:

thats a lie straight out my goodness, and the president is going to say see told u that he doesnt

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 11:49 AM Ben Kelev Says:

This child of a dog said: "... “I would never deny [the] Jewish right to the land of Israel,” Abbas then declared. ..."
Then he says: ".... “East Jerusalem is occupied territory. The entire world recognizes that including the United States of America,” Abbas told Rose. “We cannot accept any solution that excludes East Jerusalem.” ..."

This means (,if you believe this lying Mamzeir,) that he will agree to the Jewish right to Israel, provided that the PA gets Mokoim Hamikdosh and surrounding territory. That's like a person agreeing to having his heart removed and having expectations to live. How can any Jew agree to this?

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM murray Says:

Same old bs routine: one speech in English, and the exact opposite in Arabic.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 11:54 AM Anonymous Says:

why not a one-state solution? how can the palestinians be trusted to run their own country? better Israel annex the land they won fair and square in '67 and forget about the whole "Jewish" state nonsense - better focus on democracy and religious freedom and we frum people will stay frum without a Rabbanut etc. and the frei people can do what they want. better anyway the anti-religious chiloni people should intermarry and stop polluting klal Yisrael with this oxymoron of "secular" "Jews" that confuses the non-Jewish world and makes a BIG chillul Hashem

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 11:56 AM yaak Says:

Was his denial of the holocaust brought up at this meeting?
How about his being responsible for dead Israelis years ago?
How about his naming streets for known terrorists?

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 11:58 AM outoftown yeshivish Says:

Wow. I didn't know that there really was a palestenian state.
Oh. and thank you for recognizing the state. You are gushing with gutzkeit.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 11:58 AM Anonymous Says:

And we fools should believe you? What do you tell your buddies in Arabic?

I have come to the conclusion that we are a stupid people. If Hitler YM"S would stand up in 1943 and say a similar statement we would kiss him and make goody goody.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 12:02 PM Anonymous Says:

More appeasement for the messiah. These people have sworn to drive us into the sea. You don't change the heart of these people. Remember PM Meir, when asked when will there be peace in Is.? She said when the Arabs learn to love their children more than they love dying? I rest my case!

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 12:04 PM Anonymous Says:

this makes no sense when he both denies the holocaust AND THE BEIS HAMIKDASH!

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 12:11 PM Anonymous Says:

When asked what he could offer Israelis to show that he was serious ... Abbas (YS"V) reminded the participants that he addressed the Israeli public.
What did he offer? ... Nothing whatsoever, as usual

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM good idea Says:

I don't understand the big deal - the Palestinians already agreed to let Israel keep Jewish neighborhoods and as much as the Israeli Arabs don't want to be part of Palestine - Israel doesn't need the Arab neighborhoods to be part of Jerusalem it just cost them money. as for the holy sites (which was the other big problem) they should be watched by US, Israel, Palestinian Forces with a rabbinical council to over see it - the west bank was all worked out already

There you have peace in five minutes - of course this plan is only until moshiach comes

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 12:32 PM Anonymous Says:

Abbas was just given 400 BILLION dollars.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 12:40 PM Anonymous Says:

I never heard anyone representing the United States say anything about Jerusalem being divided ever! That was never part of the solution!!!!!

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 12:41 PM A Simple Jew Says:

Dear President Obama and Abbas

Actions speak louder than words!

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 12:43 PM Anonymous Says:

Those 30 or so leaders that showed up for this meeting must have a lot of time on their hands. I mean to want to sit down with a lying mamzer you got to really be bored, what can I say.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 12:47 PM Anonymous Says:

When he is referring to not denying jewish rights to Israel, he is referring to Har Hazaysim and Har Hamenuchos and so long as we are underground.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 01:07 PM Logic613 Says:

“I would never deny [the] Jewish right to the land of Israel,” Abbas then declared. ..."

Then why do you demand that no Jews live in PA controlled areas?

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 01:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #13  
Anonymous Says:

Abbas was just given 400 BILLION dollars.

Actually, it was "only" 400 million dollars.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 01:22 PM mesader kidishin Says:

Reply to #8  
Anonymous Says:

And we fools should believe you? What do you tell your buddies in Arabic?

I have come to the conclusion that we are a stupid people. If Hitler YM"S would stand up in 1943 and say a similar statement we would kiss him and make goody goody.

maybe if we would kiss hitler ym"sh instead of boycutting him & germany he woudnt kill so many jews even with his sinas yisroel (as said rabbi weissmandel z"l who was an expert in politics) why would we make the same mistake again hashem yerachem.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 01:22 PM Anonymous Says:

Yea, let him say it on PALESTINIAN TV!

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 01:36 PM Max Says:

....first take East Jerusalem....!, There will never ever ever be a palestinian state, there has not been such a state in the past, now, or in the future. Any effort or money poured into such an initiative will sink into a deep evil void. The goiym are forgetting to include someone in this decision making process, As they always have.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 01:48 PM murray Says:

Reply to #8  
Anonymous Says:

And we fools should believe you? What do you tell your buddies in Arabic?

I have come to the conclusion that we are a stupid people. If Hitler YM"S would stand up in 1943 and say a similar statement we would kiss him and make goody goody.

This Abbas is far more dangerous then Hamas: this is because while both the PA and Hamas have the identical goals, Hamas is honest and states their policy openly, while the empty suit Abbas lies, and pretends to be reasonable-What a farce!

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 02:06 PM Anonymous Says:

Some of you seem to be criticizing the Jewish organizations for even meeting with Abbas. As Shimon Peres once said "You make peace with your enemies, not with your friends". Abbas is all that we have right now, to negotiate with. In fact, the Israelis are in the process of training Abbas' security force on the West Bank, and have issued them weapons, other than sidearms. We cannot continue to occupy or adminster the entire West Bank forever. For example, after 27 years of occupation, the USA returned Okinawa to the Japanese people. It also returned Iwo Jima to Japan, after 23 years of occupation. The USA lost over 30,000 troops in taking those two islands. My point is that at some point occupations have to end, and there has to be some finality.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 02:13 PM esther Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

Some of you seem to be criticizing the Jewish organizations for even meeting with Abbas. As Shimon Peres once said "You make peace with your enemies, not with your friends". Abbas is all that we have right now, to negotiate with. In fact, the Israelis are in the process of training Abbas' security force on the West Bank, and have issued them weapons, other than sidearms. We cannot continue to occupy or adminster the entire West Bank forever. For example, after 27 years of occupation, the USA returned Okinawa to the Japanese people. It also returned Iwo Jima to Japan, after 23 years of occupation. The USA lost over 30,000 troops in taking those two islands. My point is that at some point occupations have to end, and there has to be some finality.

yes but this is not an occupation.G-D gave us this land and there is nothing more to say,period

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 02:14 PM Dividing? Says:

Why not divide any other coutry,how can we divide G-D's gift? it is "NOT" an option.
NOT Yesterday NOT Today and NOT Tomorrow. This is, was and always will be our land. Just look how much land the Arabs have, let them share with their so called Lovely Brothers. They all lack real education, they chose their own reality, all lies.
Enough is Enough.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 02:44 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
mesader kidishin Says:

maybe if we would kiss hitler ym"sh instead of boycutting him & germany he woudnt kill so many jews even with his sinas yisroel (as said rabbi weissmandel z"l who was an expert in politics) why would we make the same mistake again hashem yerachem.

You have swallowed the coolaid you were given. Hitler ym"s wrote a book called "Mein Kampf" and there he writes about the idea of annihilating the Jewish nation. So are you going to tell us that if a group of Jews hadn't announced a boycott of Germany that he wouldn’t have killed 6 million of us?

As to Rabbi Weissmandel zt"l he wrote a sefer "Min Hameitzar" and there he doesn't talk about that boycott at all. To say that Rabbi Weissmandel talked about appeasing the Nazis is absurd.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 02:46 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #23  
murray Says:

This Abbas is far more dangerous then Hamas: this is because while both the PA and Hamas have the identical goals, Hamas is honest and states their policy openly, while the empty suit Abbas lies, and pretends to be reasonable-What a farce!

Worse then that, #20 believes him!

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 03:00 PM Askupeh Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

Some of you seem to be criticizing the Jewish organizations for even meeting with Abbas. As Shimon Peres once said "You make peace with your enemies, not with your friends". Abbas is all that we have right now, to negotiate with. In fact, the Israelis are in the process of training Abbas' security force on the West Bank, and have issued them weapons, other than sidearms. We cannot continue to occupy or adminster the entire West Bank forever. For example, after 27 years of occupation, the USA returned Okinawa to the Japanese people. It also returned Iwo Jima to Japan, after 23 years of occupation. The USA lost over 30,000 troops in taking those two islands. My point is that at some point occupations have to end, and there has to be some finality.

Very naïve. The United States made peace with Japan which was a case of making peace with an enemy. The United States also made peace with England which was making peace with an enemy. But to compare this to making peace between Arabs and Jews in Israel is ludicrous. The United States recognized the Japanese nation and their right to their homeland Japan. OTOH, the Arabs to not recognize Israel’s right to any land. Even if you made a fictitious peace with one group still the rest of the group plus all the Arabs on earth will still want Israel wiped off the earth. Yes you make peace with enemies but you cannot make peace with someone who wants your total destruction.

As to training Abbass’s “security” force, Israel has already made that mistake. This so called security force turned its guns to shoot at Israel. Fool me once…fool me twice… Any Arab security force in Israel are at best potential trained terrorists. How stupid can a people become? I would say, we’ll wait until you Arabs show that you are really interested in peace and until then we’ll keep building and building.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 03:45 PM Anonymous Says:

Shut up Abbas you lieing dog. This dog has given MANY speeches at his terrorist PLO Meetings stating that Jews NEVER even LIVED in Eretz Yisrael. He is a disgusting liar and I am sick of his sickening lies. Enough already. Let him drink from the DEAD SEA and choke.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 04:45 PM yossie Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

Some of you seem to be criticizing the Jewish organizations for even meeting with Abbas. As Shimon Peres once said "You make peace with your enemies, not with your friends". Abbas is all that we have right now, to negotiate with. In fact, the Israelis are in the process of training Abbas' security force on the West Bank, and have issued them weapons, other than sidearms. We cannot continue to occupy or adminster the entire West Bank forever. For example, after 27 years of occupation, the USA returned Okinawa to the Japanese people. It also returned Iwo Jima to Japan, after 23 years of occupation. The USA lost over 30,000 troops in taking those two islands. My point is that at some point occupations have to end, and there has to be some finality.

your comparison makes no sense the american were not going to settle in okinawa but jews settled and prospered in gazaits not occupation if you live there

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 04:48 PM yossie Says:

in march 1944 adolph eichman met with the leaders of hungarian jews in budapest ie stern roth etc and said "i want to play fair with the jews"
and the idiots believed him

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 06:11 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

Some of you seem to be criticizing the Jewish organizations for even meeting with Abbas. As Shimon Peres once said "You make peace with your enemies, not with your friends". Abbas is all that we have right now, to negotiate with. In fact, the Israelis are in the process of training Abbas' security force on the West Bank, and have issued them weapons, other than sidearms. We cannot continue to occupy or adminster the entire West Bank forever. For example, after 27 years of occupation, the USA returned Okinawa to the Japanese people. It also returned Iwo Jima to Japan, after 23 years of occupation. The USA lost over 30,000 troops in taking those two islands. My point is that at some point occupations have to end, and there has to be some finality.

Bad example. You don't make peace with your enemies. You make peace with your beaten enemies. The U.S. only made peace with Japan after they were vanquished and unconditionally surrendered.

The 'occupation' will only end in the eyes of Abbas and Co. when all the Jews are dead and cleared out of Israel in its entirety. Someone has to win this battle and I'd rather it be us.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 06:12 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
Anonymous Says:

Some of you seem to be criticizing the Jewish organizations for even meeting with Abbas. As Shimon Peres once said "You make peace with your enemies, not with your friends". Abbas is all that we have right now, to negotiate with. In fact, the Israelis are in the process of training Abbas' security force on the West Bank, and have issued them weapons, other than sidearms. We cannot continue to occupy or adminster the entire West Bank forever. For example, after 27 years of occupation, the USA returned Okinawa to the Japanese people. It also returned Iwo Jima to Japan, after 23 years of occupation. The USA lost over 30,000 troops in taking those two islands. My point is that at some point occupations have to end, and there has to be some finality.

Abbas gets up in a private meeting in front of a bunch of American Jews and says in English that he likes Jews. How brave. Let him go back to Ramallah and say it in Arabic.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 06:14 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #20  
mesader kidishin Says:

maybe if we would kiss hitler ym"sh instead of boycutting him & germany he woudnt kill so many jews even with his sinas yisroel (as said rabbi weissmandel z"l who was an expert in politics) why would we make the same mistake again hashem yerachem.

I refuse to believe that any rav would say something so stupid and wrong. There is no difference between that idiocy and the idea that converting to Christianity would save Jews in Germany.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 06:49 PM lipa Says:

why is ok for aipac & adl & the conference of major jewish organizations to meet with abbas with no one complaining about it. but when rabbi moshe hirsh zatsal met with arab leaders he was branded as a rodef and a traitor of klal yisroel, the only reason he met with them was for the benefit of klal yisroel. the real reason he was branded a rodef is because he was against zionizm & thats what it hurts them most , true he was a rodef and traitor of zionisn which every ehrlicher yid should be

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 06:51 PM elmwood Says:

That is a lie all the land belongs to the jews,all tipes of jews arabs and the american arabs must get out of eretz yisrael,Israel

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 08:35 PM yossie Says:

Reply to #36  
lipa Says:

why is ok for aipac & adl & the conference of major jewish organizations to meet with abbas with no one complaining about it. but when rabbi moshe hirsh zatsal met with arab leaders he was branded as a rodef and a traitor of klal yisroel, the only reason he met with them was for the benefit of klal yisroel. the real reason he was branded a rodef is because he was against zionizm & thats what it hurts them most , true he was a rodef and traitor of zionisn which every ehrlicher yid should be

so far abbas has not openly murdered jews on the other hand arafat was the biggest murderer of jews after hitler and stalin
additionally here it was a meeting with abbas not hugging smiling and being on his payroll as the minister for the jewish affairs
in europe the minister for jewish affairs was eichman becher etc

moshe hirsch was a rasha who took the anti zionist shita which was held by all frum rabbonim prior to the establishment of the state and perverted it
he along with allthe nk nuts took all 613 mitzvos and rolled it into one

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 08:57 PM Anonymous Says:

let him first stop denying the Holacaust and then he can talk to the so called jewish leaders as they call themselves.

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 Jun 10, 2010 at 09:23 PM Anonymous Says:

LIER! i hope no one on there right mind will fall for such false lies!

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