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England, UK - More Threats To Shechita After European Parliament Vote to Label Kosher Meat

Published on: June 16, 2010 07:25 PM
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England, UK - The European Parliament has voted in favor of a new regulation which will see kosher meat labeled as “meat from slaughter without stunning” in a move which Jewish bodies fear is “discriminatory”.

The decision was made today as part of a proposal for a regulation on the provision of food information to consumers.

Around 70 per cent of an animal killed by shechita is consumed by the non-kosher market and Henry Grunwald QC, chairman of Shechita UK, the lobby organisation which defends religious slaughter, said the decision will have a serious impact on the kosher meat industry.

He said: “This ill-conceived amendment discriminates against kosher food and will have a significant impact on the kosher meat industry across Europe.

“The Jewish community is fully supportive of providing consumers with information about the origins of their food and we urged MEPs that if they wanted to label meat and meat products, labels should include those killed by electrocution, shooting, gassing or clubbing as well as the many millions of animals that are mis-stunned during the stunning process.

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“To pick on one method is suspicious, troubling and discriminatory.”


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 Jun 16, 2010 at 07:32 PM Anonymous Says:

It's scary it's 1930's all over again. Slowly maturely they are labeling us with yellow stars.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 07:35 PM Anonymous Says:

They shouldn't single out one method and not other methods. This needs to be brought to the European High Court.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 07:38 PM Anonymous Says:

If people like Rubashkin and that slaughterhouse in Uruguay weren't going around committing chillul HaShem and making shechita look bad then things like this would be much less likely to happen.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 08:22 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

If people like Rubashkin and that slaughterhouse in Uruguay weren't going around committing chillul HaShem and making shechita look bad then things like this would be much less likely to happen.

Plenty of excuses for anti-semitsm and you are one of them.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 08:24 PM Anonymous Says:

Why do they care if we do shchitah? I smell discrimanation.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 08:28 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

If people like Rubashkin and that slaughterhouse in Uruguay weren't going around committing chillul HaShem and making shechita look bad then things like this would be much less likely to happen.

Right, it's all our fault.
always was.
if only we didn't exist, no one would ever hate us.
You have NO right to be motzei shem rah on yidden, this has nothing to do with Rubashkin.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 08:37 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Anonymous Says:

It's scary it's 1930's all over again. Slowly maturely they are labeling us with yellow stars.

It's simple: their continent, their countries, their moral views on how animals should be treated. You are forgetting that there are more Muslims in Europe consuming slaughtered meat than the non significant Jewish population of whom more than 60% do not follow koshroot anyway. I highly doubt Europeans are doing this to force you into yellow stars.

If kosher slaughter houses at least treated animals with half dignity maybe then EU slaughter lobby would have an easier time persuading people that this method is not cruel to animals. Some videos on youtube of slaughter houses give it a very bad PR.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 08:39 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

If people like Rubashkin and that slaughterhouse in Uruguay weren't going around committing chillul HaShem and making shechita look bad then things like this would be much less likely to happen.

So if you are saying that this legislation against Jews (a whole group of people) is based on the actions of Rubashkin (one person) then you are saying that they are racist or anti-semites. If they are anti-semites they do not need the actions of Rubashkin to take this step. If they were not anti-semites they would not make such legislation as a punishment to Jews because of Rubashkin. Therefore rather than vilifying Rubashkin, be more concerned about how to combat anti-semitism.
Regarding anti-semitism, it does not require wrong doing by a Jew to provoke things. The Dreyfus affair is a glaring example of this. Yes bad examples brought to light through a sensationalist press and conservative Rabbi, may provide ample fodder for anti-semites but they do not need nor care for truth and therefore they will find something else if this story was not available.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 09:10 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

If people like Rubashkin and that slaughterhouse in Uruguay weren't going around committing chillul HaShem and making shechita look bad then things like this would be much less likely to happen.

I'm no big fan of SMR and expect him to be sentenced to prison for his crimes but I am truly amazed that the hatred against him can extend to this level of blood libel. Blaming antisemitism in Europe on him is beyond stupid and has no legitimacy. The Europeans knew how to be antisemitic even before PETA came along.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 09:15 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

If people like Rubashkin and that slaughterhouse in Uruguay weren't going around committing chillul HaShem and making shechita look bad then things like this would be much less likely to happen.

You are first class Loshon Hora deviate. Rubashkin was found completely inncocent. Do you work for PETA?

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 09:22 PM David L. Says:

This rule will make kosher food more expensive. It will become much more difficult to sell (to non-kosher meat companies) animals found to be treifos after shechita. Now that meat, even if it is not kosher, will probably have to be labeled as meat from a slaughterhouse where that does not use stunning.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 09:22 PM Anonymous Says:

You would think that more people would by Kosher because the DON'T Stun the animal

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 09:28 PM Peter Says:

The Europeans want to drive the Jews out of Europe. Silly Europeans, life for them will be very bad once the Muslims become the majority, which is happening very quickly.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 09:33 PM Health Nut Says:

I know how important eating meat is to most of us. The motivation against shechita is usually antisemitism. However, we would have the last laugh if we became vegetarians and lived longer and healthier than our adversaries.

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 10:42 PM Anonymous Says:

not everyone can do with out meat,organic is best,even in maco diet some people need meat, l know from myself

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 Jun 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM Anonymous Says:

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Health Nut Says:

I know how important eating meat is to most of us. The motivation against shechita is usually antisemitism. However, we would have the last laugh if we became vegetarians and lived longer and healthier than our adversaries.

Please don't perpetuate the lie that there is any halachic requirement to eat meat. There are a number of pasukim in torah that might be interpreted to mean that eating meat is a way of showing kavod for shabbos and yom tov but there is no mitzvas aseh to "EAT MEAT" among the taryag mitzvot last time I checked. Whatever minhagim may have evolved regarding eating meat on shabbos were based on ignorance of the health consequences of eating meat (beyond very small portions) and such minhagim based on such ignorance of modern medical research can be legitimately ignored.

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 12:17 AM kiddush Hashem Says:

Reply to #3  
Anonymous Says:

If people like Rubashkin and that slaughterhouse in Uruguay weren't going around committing chillul HaShem and making shechita look bad then things like this would be much less likely to happen.

If we follow your twisted logic then any behavior wihch irks the ire of any antisemite is considered a chillul Hashem. Accordingly since our very existence disturbs them it would be fitting for us to cease our existence R"L so as not to cause a "chilul Hashem".

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 12:34 AM Dave Says:

This isn't a threat to Shechita.

Anyone who cares about it already knows that the animal is not stunned.

What it is a threat to is the marketing of Kosher meat to non-Jews or heterodox Jews.

I'm sure, given a choice, the New Zealand community would much rather have this than the ban that was just imposed. Conflating the two weakens your argument.

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 02:45 AM Anonymous Says:

Maybe we should start debating the Atkins diet here? Whether a vegetarian diet is healthier is really up for debate.

But even if it is, we don't want the government to force it on us. Any method of animal killing is still killing and not for the faint of heart to watch.

According to the little research I did online, Muslims, although it may be controversial, do allow stunning -- which somebody mentioned this labeling law is probably aimed at. Which really leaves us Jews as the targets. The methods mentioned by Mr. Grunwald in the article seem pretty cruel to me, so the law definitely seems discriminatory, or at least misinformed about animal suffering.

So the question remains, why is the EU singling out shechita, or better yet, why are the so called animal lovers and liberals always against sheciata & Bris Milah?
In the U.S., unfortunately, self-hating Jews that know very little about our religion are
usually behind it, but in Europe it does reek of anti-semitiism.

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 04:46 AM Englishman Says:

At last. Payday is finally coming to those hechsherim villians and criminals who in the last 50 years have been blackmailing the tzibbur with their monoply hold on the kosher market with any product with their hechsher costs 4 or 5 times as mucn as the same product without a hechsher. I hope shechita becomes illegal in Europe as soon as possible. We will then be able to import kosher meat from the US or South America and immediately the price will come down by a mnimum of 50%.

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 06:13 AM Anonymous Says:

Never understood how they measure these things, do the ask the cows if they prefer shecita or electrocution? Who knows what is officially more distressing for the animal?

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 07:11 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

You are first class Loshon Hora deviate. Rubashkin was found completely inncocent. Do you work for PETA?

Rubashkin was not found completely innocent of anything. On some charges, the government did not prove its case. On others, he was found guilty and is awaiting sentencing.

Google is your friend.

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 09:00 AM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Rubashkin was not found completely innocent of anything. On some charges, the government did not prove its case. On others, he was found guilty and is awaiting sentencing.

Google is your friend.

You are completely WRONG!!! Rubashkin was found 100% innocent on all charges which related to anything to do with treating employess wrong. This has NOTHING to do with the fraud charges relating to improper procedures for business loans etc; a charge levied against hundreds of thousands of business principals every year.. similar to IRS actions. Notwithstanding your misunderstanding of the circumstances, you still are absolutely guilty of Loshan Hora and extremely poor judgement against another Orthodox Jew whose name has been wrongly dragged through the mud. You contribute to anti-semitic diatrabe which is championed by groups like PETA. TAke a step back and correct your foolish ways.

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 09:27 AM Charlie Hall Says:

Reply to #16  
Anonymous Says:

Please don't perpetuate the lie that there is any halachic requirement to eat meat. There are a number of pasukim in torah that might be interpreted to mean that eating meat is a way of showing kavod for shabbos and yom tov but there is no mitzvas aseh to "EAT MEAT" among the taryag mitzvot last time I checked. Whatever minhagim may have evolved regarding eating meat on shabbos were based on ignorance of the health consequences of eating meat (beyond very small portions) and such minhagim based on such ignorance of modern medical research can be legitimately ignored.

I don't think he was promoting that position. It is true, however, that most Jews I know like to eat meat. Nevertheless some great rabbis have been vegetarians and have even argued that it is preferable hashkafically. (And you never have to worry about the hechsher on the shechita!)

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 09:44 AM David Says:

I wonder if they have any thoughts on meat derived from a Spanish method of slaughter called "bullfighting." Will that be labelled as well?

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 09:51 AM Avi Says:

Reply to #16  
Anonymous Says:

Please don't perpetuate the lie that there is any halachic requirement to eat meat. There are a number of pasukim in torah that might be interpreted to mean that eating meat is a way of showing kavod for shabbos and yom tov but there is no mitzvas aseh to "EAT MEAT" among the taryag mitzvot last time I checked. Whatever minhagim may have evolved regarding eating meat on shabbos were based on ignorance of the health consequences of eating meat (beyond very small portions) and such minhagim based on such ignorance of modern medical research can be legitimately ignored.

It is a Mitzvah De'Oreisah to eat meat at least once a year. I am not sure how you can say otherwise when, depending on how one counts, it was one of the first 5 Mizvohs given to B'nei Yisroel as a nation.

Not only is it an "aseh", but the punishment for foregoing the Mizvah is Kares.

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 11:46 AM Dave Says:

Reply to #25  
David Says:

I wonder if they have any thoughts on meat derived from a Spanish method of slaughter called "bullfighting." Will that be labelled as well?

It isn't sold anymore.

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 01:29 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #10  
Anonymous Says:

You are first class Loshon Hora deviate. Rubashkin was found completely inncocent. Do you work for PETA?

no, he is a union thug.

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 Jun 17, 2010 at 03:42 PM Equality Says:

Let them label the cemetires and mass graves with "slaughtered without cause" or "slaughtered without stunning" or something like that. All of a sudden they're very worried about how they tried animals. How a bou of those European animals worry about how they treat humans.

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 Jun 18, 2010 at 01:40 AM Washington Says:

Stunning the animal is not like morphine. The animal goes through much more pain than shehita which Hashem in his wisdom decreed. They just think that because the animal is paralyzed it is in less pain than the animal that quivers. But they are dead wrong. Ultimately Hashem will teach them a lesson. Perhaps they will be paralyzed one day and the doctor will think they are not feeling pain.

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