“ they should give him shishi this week in shul ”

“ This is the way maybe even fine a person a hefty fine as a detterent but of what use is jailtime??
If only they would demand restitutions and a fine for smr that's the Torah way as in person that his forced to work as a servant to pay up... ”

“ #12, you are as authentic Satmar as me authentic Judge. You're a despicable character to say the least.

This sentence is like the posuk says, "כמים קרים על נפש עיפה"! We've been bombarded by ruthless senseless crude punishments that fit 10 people's crime and they rolled all into one person's jail time. This has been going on for a number of years. So B'H there's one judge who has some rachmunis.

No country ever had a long existence under such ruthless heartless justice. Eventually the population revolts. We Yiden are the ones who end up suffering. So instead of being happy that there's some justice done, you're asking for more of the same "אכזריות" justice? ”

“ #13, are you a Jew? I wonder. I truly mean this question!

Al pi Tora, ומודה ועוזב ירוחם !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You see any jail time for that? 27 yrs? 20 Yrs? or what?

You're mindset is full of Goyishkeit like "deterence" "jail time" etc. In which Yeshiva did you go to ? Or did you?

The USA was Matzliach because it was a Malchis Shel Chesed, from the Chasidei Imes Huolam!

Can you say his today? Wether the defendant is a Jew or non Jew? I don't think these punishments have anything to do with Jews. They have everything to do with the swing to the extreme right and it lost it's moral compass!

Again, this type of Justice brings out the worst in people as History proves time and again.

Hashem Yereicheim! ”

“ #12, you are as authentic Satmar as me authentic Judge. You're a despicable character to say the least.

This sentence is like the posuk says, "כמים קרים על נפש עיפה"! We've been bombarded by ruthless senseless crude punishments that fit 10 people's crime and they rolled all into one person's jail time. This has been going on for a number of years. So B'H there's one judge who has some rachmunis.

No country ever had a long existence under such ruthless heartless justice. Eventually the population revolts. We Yiden are the ones who end up suffering. So instead of being happy that there's some justice done, you're asking for more of the same "אכזריות" justice? ”

“ This is what happens when you own up to your mistakes, show remorse and make amends. As opposed to some other individuals who only showes arrogance and self-righteousness and ended up with 27 years. ”

“ #13, are you a Jew? I wonder. I truly mean this question!

Al pi Tora, ומודה ועוזב ירוחם !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You see any jail time for that? 27 yrs? 20 Yrs? or what?

You're mindset is full of Goyishkeit like "deterence" "jail time" etc. In which Yeshiva did you go to ? Or did you?

The USA was Matzliach because it was a Malchis Shel Chesed, from the Chasidei Imes Huolam!

Can you say his today? Wether the defendant is a Jew or non Jew? I don't think these punishments have anything to do with Jews. They have everything to do with the swing to the extreme right and it lost it's moral compass!

Again, this type of Justice brings out the worst in people as History proves time and again.

Hashem Yereicheim! ”

“ Ever thing that they actually needed it to get by? Do you have any clue to what it takes to support and feed 12 kids? I'd bet they probably were qualified to receive aid. But the way the gov't programs were set up is unless you're dying and homeless, you can't qualify. They were probably entitled to it and not living a life of luxury, but barely scraping by. And instead of fighting and paying lawyers fees, were better off just paying it back and moving on with their lives. To support 12 children, you have to earn a minimum of $250,000 per year, anything under that you're barely scraping by. So I can see why they needed the aid. ”

“ This is what happens when you own up to your mistakes, show remorse and make amends. As opposed to some other individuals who only showes arrogance and self-righteousness and ended up with 27 years. ”

“ Yes I am happy that this couple who seem truly contrite will not serve jail, however jail serves as a deterrent. If everyone who committed a crime knew that the worst he can face is repayment and no jail time then we would see more people committing crimes. ”

“ when you say your sorry, make restitution to those harmed and dont claim anti-semitism it will get you far in life. ”

“ al tudin ad sh'tagia l'mkomo. even if hed cried anti semitism we still had NO RIGHT to judge! ”

“ Yes I am happy that this couple who seem truly contrite will not serve jail, however jail serves as a deterrent. If everyone who committed a crime knew that the worst he can face is repayment and no jail time then we would see more people committing crimes. ”

“ you are the pits youre berating #12 for saying the obvious any normal person knows that jail is a deterant youre defending theese 2 morons because they are like you mindless idiots who bought hillel hashem on allof us you should be ashamed for defending them on top of that youre venting anger on a country that is good to yidden youre perverted thinking does no good to us all saying this country will not exist, unbeleivable because it sentences jews religious jews so harshly what an idiot you are ”

“ the anti-semetic rhetoric is getting old and tired. Remeber people, these vermin lived off YOURS and MY tax dollars, stealing, to support 12 kids they allegedly could not afford. We ALL have the right to judge others that do wrong. Stealing is stealing, illegal is illegal. Their "community" had to help pay restitution for these 2 idiots. Yet this same "community" is crying because of how much it costs for tuition, keeping kosher, etc. Maybe if the "community" let the outlaws fed for themselves when they get caught and stop bailing them out, maybe it would be a deterrent for future wanna be thieves and maybe the rest of the "community" would not be so hard pressed to pay for a lifestyle they want but cry they cannot afford.

Stop all this "but he/she is one of us" BS attitude, get an original thought in your head and start thinking for yourself, not just what you are told to think. ”

“ the anti-semetic rhetoric is getting old and tired. Remeber people, these vermin lived off YOURS and MY tax dollars, stealing, to support 12 kids they allegedly could not afford. We ALL have the right to judge others that do wrong. Stealing is stealing, illegal is illegal. Their "community" had to help pay restitution for these 2 idiots. Yet this same "community" is crying because of how much it costs for tuition, keeping kosher, etc. Maybe if the "community" let the outlaws fed for themselves when they get caught and stop bailing them out, maybe it would be a deterrent for future wanna be thieves and maybe the rest of the "community" would not be so hard pressed to pay for a lifestyle they want but cry they cannot afford.

Stop all this "but he/she is one of us" BS attitude, get an original thought in your head and start thinking for yourself, not just what you are told to think. ”

“ The couple were each represented by their own attorney and one of them was the best criminal defense attorney in Rockland - Bill Frank. Judge Apotheker is a strong judge but a mentsch. This deal was the result of plea bargaining and negotiating - and good faith representations on the part of the accused. They are both convicted felons now even though there was jail time so it's not like they got off scot-free. ”

“ Ever thing that they actually needed it to get by? Do you have any clue to what it takes to support and feed 12 kids? I'd bet they probably were qualified to receive aid. But the way the gov't programs were set up is unless you're dying and homeless, you can't qualify. They were probably entitled to it and not living a life of luxury, but barely scraping by. And instead of fighting and paying lawyers fees, were better off just paying it back and moving on with their lives. To support 12 children, you have to earn a minimum of $250,000 per year, anything under that you're barely scraping by. So I can see why they needed the aid. ”

“ “Ever thing that they actually needed it to get by?"
"I'd bet they probably were qualified to receive aid."
"They were probably entitled to it."

Are you actually defending welfare fraud? Do you actually believe that if they "needed" it then it was ok to steal over $75,000?

You know, even goyim have the decency to be embarrassed when they get caught stealing, they don't talk about their entitlement to steal if they have trouble paying bills. Only frum Jews not only condone stealing, they elevate it to an art form.

If it takes a quarter of a million dollars a year to support twelve children, here's a novel idea: DON'T HAVE TWELVE CHILDREN UNTIL YOU CAN AFFORD IT.

You have absolutely no morals, no ethics, and no values. The Jews who on the lowest madrega when they left mitzrayim were apparently still on a higher ethical level than you and those who think like you. ”

“ You are a disgrace to all! You should be happy that a fellow Jew is being treated just like "others" are. The judge's verdict was not any different from what is usually done in cases like this one. YOU are forbidden by Halacha of judging another Jew and I hope for your sake our JUDGE doesn't deal harshly with you. ”

“ You said: "... no jail time is ok put just to pay back what they stole in crazy ..."
It seems as if you haven't learned any G'moro in Seider N'zikin. As any Yeshiva student will tell you, Moideh Biknas is Potur. In English, this means that if a person goes to a Beis Din and admits a theft (before 2 valid witnesses testify against the thief) he pays only the Keren (principal) and no Keifel (twice the amount of the theft).
Keifel is a K'nas, which means that is a penalty enacted by our Chachomim (sages).

So ... is it really that crazy (looking at it from a Jewish perspective)? ”

“ I know but you are in error, they did not go they where arrested and then they admitted
big difference and would have to pay keifel

sorry charlie no deal. ”

“ You are a disgrace to all! You should be happy that a fellow Jew is being treated just like "others" are. The judge's verdict was not any different from what is usually done in cases like this one. YOU are forbidden by Halacha of judging another Jew and I hope for your sake our JUDGE doesn't deal harshly with you. ”

“ they should give him shishi this week in shul ”