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Sullivan County, NY - Newly Erected Billboards on Rt. 17 Call For Awareness About Child Abuse In The Jewish Community

Published on: July 19, 2010 11:11 AM
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Billboard, located on Broadway in Monticello Photo Credit: Hershy RubinsteinBillboard, located on Broadway in Monticello Photo Credit: Hershy Rubinstein

Sullivan County, NY - In a continued effort to curb abuse that seems more prevalent in the summer months, the Jewish Board of Advocates  for Children has taken out two full size billboards in Sullivan County, urging parents to teach their children what to do if anyone touches them inappropriately.  While the billboard located on the northbound side of Route 17 before the Monticello exit is written in English, the second billboard, located on Broadway in Monticello carries the same message in Yiddish, perhaps the first time that this topic has been addressed in Yiddish in such a public forum.

Both billboards carry the same message, albeit in a slightly different manner.  The English billboard features an open Sefer Torah against a black background, the words inside the Sefer Torah urging parents to educate their children about the dangers of sexual abuse and to tell their children to run away, shout for help, call 911,  call the police or inform a trusted adult if anyone molests them in any way.  The Yiddish billboard features the same message, set against a cheerful, colorful banner featuring illustrations of small children playing outside.  Both billboards carry the endorsement of leading poskim.

JBAC was founded in 2008 in an effort to promote the safety and welfare of children in yeshivos and non-public schools.  Initially known as the N.Y.S. Yeshiva Parents Association, they successfully advocated for a law, passed in July 2007, authorizing all non public schools to fingerprint and background check their prospective employees so that schools could avoid hiring convicted sex offenders and other dangerous persons.

While some might find public billboards the wrong venue for delivering this important message, JBAC President and co-founder Elliot Pasik disagrees.

“Particularly during the summer, when children are at play, there is less supervision.  Unfortunately, there are strange people in the community who want to harm our children.  We have to stop them.  Child abuse thrives in darkness.  The more people talk about it, the greater wall of safety we are creating around them.  Child abuse is a sickness.  If you have a sickness you go straight to a doctor.  These billboards are part of our medicine.”

Rabbi Dr. Asher Lipner, JBAC Vice President and co-founder of JBAC, shared his thoughts on this very serious subject with VIN News.

“Many parents ask me if it is safe to send their children to overnight camp because of the danger of molestation. There are many things that parents can do to protect their children even when they are not watching them.  Talking to children openly and calmly about abuse is one of the most important things parents can do.  It is also very important for parents to be selective about which camp and which school they send their children to.  Nowadays there is no excuse for an institution that watches children not to have published safety guidelines that include the phone numbers of who to call when a crime is committed.  With this new approach to child safety, our community can create a safe and healthy environment for our children both in the summer and all year round.”

From across the religious spectrum, rabbis from the Rabbinical Council of America to the Orthodox Union have urged the JBAC to continue in their efforts to raise child abuse awareness.

In an interview with VIN News, Pasik outlined JBAC’s plan to deal with this problem.

“We have to ramp up our advocacy.  We have thousands of children in yeshivos in New York State and they are completely unregulated.  Our plan is to have new laws passed that require mandatory fingerprinting and background checks in all yeshivos.  Every single legal protection that applies to public schools must be required in yeshivos as well.”

Noted activist Mark Meyer Appel who has helped fund several initiative on child abuses issues, and President of the voice of justice said “we will continue with Hashems help to fund all educational banners and seminars that raise the awareness in our community.

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English billboard placed on Rt. 17English billboard placed on Rt. 17

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:16 AM Come on Says:

Necessary. But NOT in public where the goyim can use it as fodder for more hatred against Yidden. Although the language doesn't specifically point at Jews, everyone will see the Hebrew and will put 2 and 2 together and get Jews have abuse problems. This should not be on a highway billboard.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:17 AM Anonymous Says:

KOL HAKAVOD to those sponsoring this. Anyone who has a problem with this IS part of the problem. If this saves even one child from a lifetime of pain, it is worth it. Think about it, that one child could be yours!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:19 AM bp Says:

I think that the billboard is great maybe a little graphic or maybe not but none the less proves its point “METH IS BAD DANGERIOUS AND PRETTY MUCH PURE EVIL. But I think it should go a step further lets really show the kids what it’s like maybe on the next billboard we should show some one that has over dosed

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:22 AM bp Says:

If parents don't want to see this billboard because of their kids, they should move to some goody, goody town and live there. Oh wait! there's no such a town! It's called REALITY, my friends! Keep the billboard up and running

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:22 AM Anonymous Says:

Satmar rabbi R' yoel z"l vision how to deal with difficult moments was "do what you need to do, the rest leave to hashem" so this sign is what we need to do and let's pray to Hashem for help

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:23 AM bp Says:

Hey , When you drive by the billboard put a blind fold on the kids if you are so concern about the message. This is the world today and REALITY. Deal with it. Keep the message up on the billboard.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:24 AM bp Says:

Sometimes the truth hurts. I support the billboards

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:25 AM Anonymous Says:

This type of "in your face" advertising is long overdue and necessary. It may offend the sensibilities of some in the heimeshse community but if it deters even one case of child abuse or results in the reporting and prosecution of even one offender, it will have been worth the effort. The "sensibilities" of the frum community (assuming these ads offend anyone, which they should not) are irrelevant when it comes to the welfare of our children.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:25 AM Anonymous Says:

These guys are obbsesed! Besides do they really have to write it in a Sefer Torah? Comon!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:25 AM amen! Says:

someone who grew up in a house, where no such thing happened. where we would play outdoors till night, do our homework some times lol. but were openly speaking to a parent was easy, even till this day! As i watched some of my friend and what they went thru, and hearing some storys i am very surpised that these boards are just being put up now, i have friends that yrs of therapy still havent helped. They have sleepless nights, and i am more than happy to spend those sleepless nights holding there hand.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:40 AM Anonymous Says:

518-622-8600 is the number to the New York State Police in Catskill, NY. The town of Catskill is in Greene County, NY and 100 miles north of Monticello and the area commonly referred to as the "Jewish Catskills" in Sullivan County.

The nearest state police barracks to Monticello, and the only one in the area commonly referred to as the Jewish Catskills, is in Liberty, NY and their number is 518-622-8600. Calling Liberty from Monticello is a local call. Calling the town of Catskill from Monticello is a long distance call. While the state police in Catskill might be able to figure out that the call should b transferred to Liberty State Police, Many phone lines in the "Jewish Catskills" are set up to only make local phone calls and most young children don't have access to a cellphone with free long distance.

This mistake should be corrected.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 11:47 AM Anonymous Says:

The danger to kids is real, but it is wrong to implant that notion into the Torah.
No-where in Tenaach or in Chazal do we find any mention of this harm that a child will suffer. To the contrary, Rashi, in Avodah Zoroh 15b, Line 40, only points to the Aveiru of being Machshil the Akum with an Aveiru.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM jancsibacsi Says:

Reply to #1  
Come on Says:

Necessary. But NOT in public where the goyim can use it as fodder for more hatred against Yidden. Although the language doesn't specifically point at Jews, everyone will see the Hebrew and will put 2 and 2 together and get Jews have abuse problems. This should not be on a highway billboard.

i agree with you 100 per cent , its very idiotic to publicize this especially in a goishe wrold we live in its absurd

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:01 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Come on Says:

Necessary. But NOT in public where the goyim can use it as fodder for more hatred against Yidden. Although the language doesn't specifically point at Jews, everyone will see the Hebrew and will put 2 and 2 together and get Jews have abuse problems. This should not be on a highway billboard.

To Mr. "Come On" . You are part of the problem and more worried about looking bad in the eyes of the goyim rather than protecting precious yiddeshe yinglach. Your disgusting concern for "optics" is why so many children are molested each year in the heimeshe community and these crimes go unreported.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:11 PM Anonymous Says:

Its good. Tjhey should put those billboards up in the camps.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM Anonymous Says:

awareness is a good thing. walking around with your eyes and ears closed is not.
every religion, every ethnicity has similar problems and all should be made aware

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM Agree Says:

Reply to #1  
Come on Says:

Necessary. But NOT in public where the goyim can use it as fodder for more hatred against Yidden. Although the language doesn't specifically point at Jews, everyone will see the Hebrew and will put 2 and 2 together and get Jews have abuse problems. This should not be on a highway billboard.

Totally right! I agree with you 100%! This should be dealt with an internal system maybe having the board go around in Yeshivas talking about the issues with kids. These public billboards are a disgrace.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:18 PM tzviki Says:

better the money they spent on this "billboard" should go to kollel families who are struggling...

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM Anonymous Says:

Kol hakovod parents should speak to their kids my son had a 6 year old try to touch him when he was 3 we found out and thank hashem his parents got him help and found out that someone did it to him thus endilng a vicious cycle

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:28 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #12  
Anonymous Says:

The danger to kids is real, but it is wrong to implant that notion into the Torah.
No-where in Tenaach or in Chazal do we find any mention of this harm that a child will suffer. To the contrary, Rashi, in Avodah Zoroh 15b, Line 40, only points to the Aveiru of being Machshil the Akum with an Aveiru.

The fact that somthing is not explicitly mentioned in the Torah does not mean it is not totally assur and that a yid found to have molested a child should not receive the most extreme punishments possible including capital punishment in certain cases. We cannot expect the torah to contemplate every possible perversion that yidden might engage in .

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:30 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #17  
Agree Says:

Totally right! I agree with you 100%! This should be dealt with an internal system maybe having the board go around in Yeshivas talking about the issues with kids. These public billboards are a disgrace.

The only disgrace are jews like yourself who worry about public discussion of child sexual abuse by the yeshivish olam. Maybe if it were your child you would be more supportive of public discussion of this plague within the community.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:40 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
tzviki Says:

better the money they spent on this "billboard" should go to kollel families who are struggling...

I could care less about "struggling:" Kollel families. The need to eradicate child molestation takes priority over the need of some kollel family who doesn't hold a job or spends money on going to the bungalow colony so the yungerliet can get a vacation from their seforim.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:47 PM Clarity Says:

Wishing a Yasher Koach, Kol HaKavod and continued Hatzlacha to everyone at JBAC! May this serve as a stepping stone in the rebuilding of Klal Yisroel, and in the recovery from the Churban!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:52 PM mit seichel Says:

To all of you heralding this billboard, you are acting like hyper children. Such a public billboard is not an effective deterrent for molestation. Educating children, parents and school/camp staff in targeted meetings, speeches and letters work. Shouting it to every passerby does nothing other than hang our dirty laundry to the outside world and make them think that molestation is even more rampant amongst us than it really is (which is bad enough).

It's about time we call a spade a spade. This is no more than a PR ploy by this organization to get attention and show that they're doing "something." Shame on the chillul Hashem.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:54 PM Dr. Asher Lipner, Ph.D. Says:

Others here have said, it is secrecy and fear of admitting this problem that creates an environment in which the problem festers. Parents need to be educated and to educate their children in an age appropriate way that nobody can abuse them, and if anybody tries, all of us will do everything we can to stop them.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:56 PM true ben toireh Says:

what?! these billboards are encouraging mesira! who ever put these up should be thrown out of shul!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM Anonymous Says:

It might be an awareness for the kids but it's a wake-up call and a reminder to the predators. You will be caught and you will be punished and it will ruin your life more than your victims.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 12:59 PM Raped in Monsey Says:

Reply to #17  
Agree Says:

Totally right! I agree with you 100%! This should be dealt with an internal system maybe having the board go around in Yeshivas talking about the issues with kids. These public billboards are a disgrace.

Internal handling is why this billboard was needed. The problem is way bigger than we are capable of handling. Recent history has proven this.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 01:03 PM Anonymous Says:

famous question wich rabbanim endorse this

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 01:05 PM Anonymous Says:

The yiddish sign is more better in my opinion. It says if someone tries to touch you where he shouldnt, and the english one says if someone tries to sexually abuse you. Aside from the fact that most little kids have no idea what that means the more aiydel way to say it would be like the yiddish one.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 01:09 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #17  
Agree Says:

Totally right! I agree with you 100%! This should be dealt with an internal system maybe having the board go around in Yeshivas talking about the issues with kids. These public billboards are a disgrace.

The billboards would be unnecessary if these problems had been dealt with thoroughly in a manner of "Hatzneiah Lekhes". They weren't, despite there having been many, many opportunities. The "powers that be" merely kept dismissing the problem with the most ridiculous of explanations and this is the inevitable result.

Do we have your attention now?

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 01:21 PM Raped in Monsey Says:

Reply to #17  
Agree Says:

Totally right! I agree with you 100%! This should be dealt with an internal system maybe having the board go around in Yeshivas talking about the issues with kids. These public billboards are a disgrace.

Internal systems are full of favoritism and are worthless. If your child was molested and the perp got off scot free because they did not want to embarrass the "chashive" family what would your take be on it then?

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 01:21 PM Zacharowicz Says:

Elliot Pasik and his fellow members of the JBAC are struggling to prevent future tragedies. Their methods sometimes raise eyebrows but given the danger posed by ignorance and cover-ups, we should applaud their efforts to educate our precious children.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 01:29 PM Anonymous Says:

I can"t imagine why anyone would have a problem with these signs.Jbac is trying to help camps and schools do their jobs to ensure our children's safety.These billboards are not free, and if there weren't a problem ,they wouldnt be necessary.People just dont want to acknowledge how prevalent abuse is and that it is preventable.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 01:29 PM Anonymous Says:

I do not understand why they had to put it on the background of a sefer torah, or specifically direct to yidden. This impacts not just yidden, they should have left it non sectarian, it would have the same impact. In fact, it would help non jewish children as well.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 01:33 PM THE VOICE OF JUSTICE Says:

Reply to #25  
Dr. Asher Lipner, Ph.D. Says:

Others here have said, it is secrecy and fear of admitting this problem that creates an environment in which the problem festers. Parents need to be educated and to educate their children in an age appropriate way that nobody can abuse them, and if anybody tries, all of us will do everything we can to stop them.

A great yasher koach to dr lippner and elliot passick for this project,This education project along many of the various advocacy on this important issue have begun to make a major impact in the prevention,prosecutions of child molestors in our community. it is now time for all major community leadsers to follow suit and endorse this issue at public seminars mark mayer appel

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 01:43 PM mit seichel Says:

Reply to #31  
Anonymous Says:

The billboards would be unnecessary if these problems had been dealt with thoroughly in a manner of "Hatzneiah Lekhes". They weren't, despite there having been many, many opportunities. The "powers that be" merely kept dismissing the problem with the most ridiculous of explanations and this is the inevitable result.

Do we have your attention now?

Hi genius, there is something between "Hatzneiah Lekhes" and placing billboards on roads that are mostly traveled by non-Jews. It can be dealt with publicly within the frum world and media, and even with government agencies when appropriate. The non-Jewish driver who reads it will NOT help the situation in any way, shape or form. Do you get in now?

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 01:45 PM Oiber Chuchem Says:

Reply to #35  
Anonymous Says:

I do not understand why they had to put it on the background of a sefer torah, or specifically direct to yidden. This impacts not just yidden, they should have left it non sectarian, it would have the same impact. In fact, it would help non jewish children as well.

A child is compared to a sefer torah. It is very appropriate. Those who are non jewish already know to call the police. It is us who seem clueless. Hence the need for a billboard.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:00 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #35  
Anonymous Says:

I do not understand why they had to put it on the background of a sefer torah, or specifically direct to yidden. This impacts not just yidden, they should have left it non sectarian, it would have the same impact. In fact, it would help non jewish children as well.

Have they placed such signs in the 5 towns, Teaneck, Englewood as well? It seems they are missing out on large groups of jewish children who would benefit from the signs. If the Torah will not catch their eyes, then put it on top of the NYT or the Jewish Week or maybe one of the popular singers or a scantily clad women.

it certainly makes more sense, since the rabbis supporting this organization are from those neighborhoods. They obviously realize that there are problems in their kehillos and schools as well.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:05 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Come on Says:

Necessary. But NOT in public where the goyim can use it as fodder for more hatred against Yidden. Although the language doesn't specifically point at Jews, everyone will see the Hebrew and will put 2 and 2 together and get Jews have abuse problems. This should not be on a highway billboard.

Duh, where have you been????? Da ya think they haven't figured it out yet???? Now they will see that we are finally doing something productive about it and they will say good for them, maybe WE should put up billboards as well!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:06 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
Anonymous Says:

These guys are obbsesed! Besides do they really have to write it in a Sefer Torah? Comon!

Why shouldn't they write it in a Sefer Torah? It certainly talks about sexual abuse in the Torah!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:11 PM Sherree Belsky Says:

Reply to #17  
Agree Says:

Totally right! I agree with you 100%! This should be dealt with an internal system maybe having the board go around in Yeshivas talking about the issues with kids. These public billboards are a disgrace.

PLease arrange for me to come to YOUR yeshiva to talk about it and I will be there with a panel of advocates and victims to discuss it wth the kids and a separate discussion with the parents and staff.

You are joking right? Which yeshiva will let us in? Don't you think that we have tried every avenue to get the message out? Read these other posts and you will realize how many people still refuse to get their heads out of the sand. Desperate times need desperate measures. If the Yeshivas refuse to protect our children then we must go directly to the children and their parents!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:15 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
mit seichel Says:

To all of you heralding this billboard, you are acting like hyper children. Such a public billboard is not an effective deterrent for molestation. Educating children, parents and school/camp staff in targeted meetings, speeches and letters work. Shouting it to every passerby does nothing other than hang our dirty laundry to the outside world and make them think that molestation is even more rampant amongst us than it really is (which is bad enough).

It's about time we call a spade a spade. This is no more than a PR ploy by this organization to get attention and show that they're doing "something." Shame on the chillul Hashem.

This is a PUBLIC SERVICE message from a Jewish group. However, it relates to ALL parents and Children. It does not say if a jewish child is molested It says "PARENTS". This is a message to the entire community and any child and parent will benefit from this information whether they are Jewish or NOT!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:16 PM Anonymous Says:

This is probably the dumbest thing I have seen all summer. Maybe tell Eisenman from passaic to habg one in his shul.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:17 PM molested Says:

These posters are a chilul hashem and a PR move for the unheard organization. Whom are u trying to educate? These molesters will hunt their tavah either way. Besides from emotions there is no hetir to call police. If u wanna do good go around from camp to camp from city to city and educate the parents how to speak to their kids about this. And by not talking they are bringing this upon them selves.

Being molested is not new and nowhere in history have we heard that this causes mental illness or drug addiction. Like some would claim. Its the hand gloved approach to a minor trauma that causes these over blown issues out of nothing. Don't be so fragile. Most states in the US don't even have a minimum sentence for child molestation. No where in the. Torah or gemara or shilchon oruch is there such hetir to call authirities. A child molester is not chiyuv misah. A mosur is mechiyuv teliyuh.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:17 PM Sherree Belsky Says:

Reply to #24  
mit seichel Says:

To all of you heralding this billboard, you are acting like hyper children. Such a public billboard is not an effective deterrent for molestation. Educating children, parents and school/camp staff in targeted meetings, speeches and letters work. Shouting it to every passerby does nothing other than hang our dirty laundry to the outside world and make them think that molestation is even more rampant amongst us than it really is (which is bad enough).

It's about time we call a spade a spade. This is no more than a PR ploy by this organization to get attention and show that they're doing "something." Shame on the chillul Hashem.

MORE than anything these signs send a message to ALL molesters on their way to the mountains. WE ARE WATCHING YOU and everyone knows how to report you!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:35 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
mit seichel Says:

To all of you heralding this billboard, you are acting like hyper children. Such a public billboard is not an effective deterrent for molestation. Educating children, parents and school/camp staff in targeted meetings, speeches and letters work. Shouting it to every passerby does nothing other than hang our dirty laundry to the outside world and make them think that molestation is even more rampant amongst us than it really is (which is bad enough).

It's about time we call a spade a spade. This is no more than a PR ploy by this organization to get attention and show that they're doing "something." Shame on the chillul Hashem.

U right its only a big pr the jbac is not the poskim of all our communities etch and every community has its way of dealing whit this problem

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:40 PM You have a lot of nerve #18 Says:

Reply to #18  
tzviki Says:

better the money they spent on this "billboard" should go to kollel families who are struggling...

I'm sorry to speak this way at such a time, but your comment is pure chutzpah. Do you screen those who collect tzedokoh to verify which needs rank most significant? I would hope not, as the midoh-kineged-midoh would place you in a precarious position when asking something of HKB"H, who would screen you before granting a bakosho. The need for safety is unquestionably great, and not less than the financial struggles of a yungerman in kollel (who is capable of earning parnoso but chooses to learn instead). Perhaps hachnosas kallah is greater that yungerleit in kollel. Maybe a sick child with great medical expenses is even greater. Who are we to judge?

These billboards are there to address a specific need. We do know that the need is far greater than previously believed. We also know that little is being accomplished in this regard. You may question whether this is the best approach to achieve a result, as others have suggested. But your comment cannot be made more tolerable with all the "dan lekaf zechus" that I tried.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:42 PM formally Says:

Reply to #17  
Agree Says:

Totally right! I agree with you 100%! This should be dealt with an internal system maybe having the board go around in Yeshivas talking about the issues with kids. These public billboards are a disgrace.

internally, this whole issue exploded because of years of trying to deal with it internally

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:44 PM formally Says:

Reply to #13  
jancsibacsi Says:

i agree with you 100 per cent , its very idiotic to publicize this especially in a goishe wrold we live in its absurd

what are you afraid off, the goyim will see that your world is not perfect, maybe you can even learn from them how to deal with this

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:47 PM formally Says:

Reply to #24  
mit seichel Says:

To all of you heralding this billboard, you are acting like hyper children. Such a public billboard is not an effective deterrent for molestation. Educating children, parents and school/camp staff in targeted meetings, speeches and letters work. Shouting it to every passerby does nothing other than hang our dirty laundry to the outside world and make them think that molestation is even more rampant amongst us than it really is (which is bad enough).

It's about time we call a spade a spade. This is no more than a PR ploy by this organization to get attention and show that they're doing "something." Shame on the chillul Hashem.

get real, it won't happen it did not happen,

what it does is open the eyes of children and maybe they will do something like make a call, since telling the people in the community feel of deaf ears

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:53 PM Shaul in Monsey Says:

Reply to #24  
mit seichel Says:

To all of you heralding this billboard, you are acting like hyper children. Such a public billboard is not an effective deterrent for molestation. Educating children, parents and school/camp staff in targeted meetings, speeches and letters work. Shouting it to every passerby does nothing other than hang our dirty laundry to the outside world and make them think that molestation is even more rampant amongst us than it really is (which is bad enough).

It's about time we call a spade a spade. This is no more than a PR ploy by this organization to get attention and show that they're doing "something." Shame on the chillul Hashem.

The chillul hashem, sir, is the rape of our children to begin with. That is the ONLY chillul hashem. Your single protest about ANY method of raising awareness is one protest too many.

These signs are a MITZVA and a Chiyuv of ushmartem es nafshoseichem.

For decades our children were raped withe impunity and the tacit approval of the gedoilim. No more.

The billboards are a chiyuv deoraisa and anyone that protests or mangles the Torah to suggest otherwise is a heretic.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:55 PM Anonymous Says:

To all people who wants to help out in this problem its now erev tisha bav and tomorrow is tisha bav two days for kids playing around and r not going to cheider so just keep good eyes on them

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 02:58 PM frum therapist Says:

The non-Jews are going to be impressed that we are not like their galachim who cover it up and stop people from going to the police. We will now be seen as the leaders we should have been all along in confronting this problem which knows no specific religion, race or creed. Anti-semitism comes from the fact that the secular media (for those who do not have TV or read goyishe papers) has been getting more and more aware of the problem of Jewish people allowing abuse to occur to their children rather than admit they have a problem like everyone else.

These signs show that unlike others, we do not tolerate our children's blood being hefker. Mee K'amcha Yisroel!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 03:04 PM formally Says:

Reply to #46  
molested Says:

These posters are a chilul hashem and a PR move for the unheard organization. Whom are u trying to educate? These molesters will hunt their tavah either way. Besides from emotions there is no hetir to call police. If u wanna do good go around from camp to camp from city to city and educate the parents how to speak to their kids about this. And by not talking they are bringing this upon them selves.

Being molested is not new and nowhere in history have we heard that this causes mental illness or drug addiction. Like some would claim. Its the hand gloved approach to a minor trauma that causes these over blown issues out of nothing. Don't be so fragile. Most states in the US don't even have a minimum sentence for child molestation. No where in the. Torah or gemara or shilchon oruch is there such hetir to call authirities. A child molester is not chiyuv misah. A mosur is mechiyuv teliyuh.

I see you have no clue about the effect of child molestation. Hundreds of studies prove you wrong. Hundreds of years ago there was no mental illness, it just was call he was possessed a dybbuk was in him or some other thing.

Go back to the dark ages of medicine, the same people who treat you for any illness will tell you that molestation is serious.

Or, maybe you do not go to doctors because whatever you have it not serious and just blood letting will cure it

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 03:17 PM Anonymous Says:

this should have been done 50 years ago

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 03:23 PM formally Says:

Reply to #55  
frum therapist Says:

The non-Jews are going to be impressed that we are not like their galachim who cover it up and stop people from going to the police. We will now be seen as the leaders we should have been all along in confronting this problem which knows no specific religion, race or creed. Anti-semitism comes from the fact that the secular media (for those who do not have TV or read goyishe papers) has been getting more and more aware of the problem of Jewish people allowing abuse to occur to their children rather than admit they have a problem like everyone else.

These signs show that unlike others, we do not tolerate our children's blood being hefker. Mee K'amcha Yisroel!

antisemitism does not come from this. laughter maybe ridicule maybe.

You are not seen s leaders in this area at all I am sorry to say. The goyin are not that stupid as you think. And the media will still report the truth. That it is being squashed by the powers to be.

The reason it is known is because people do go to the police and DA but refuse to cooperate with the investigation. either because they do not ant to be labeled a musar, or as in many cases they where afraid after threats from community leaders and robonum

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 03:26 PM its about time Says:

it is time to punish this animals, i have a son that was molested by a olser relative, you all can not imagine the dammage and suffering he is going thru, i personaly know of teachers that have molested kids, its time to say no more, try them, put them away for ever, dont have pitty on thier families, the emotional scars that this leaves, is beyond belife, so anyone that says keep it quiet, deserves to go to jail first, stop hiding, awarness is important , dosnt matter the cost

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 03:36 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #29  
Anonymous Says:

famous question wich rabbanim endorse this

Which Rabbi did you ask before posting your comment? Are you able to think for yourself ever? The "Rabbonim" for the most part are the ones who put us in a situation where you need to put up billboards telling people what to do if they are molested. They were the ones who handled it internally and told the molesters to do teshuva and move to another city which enabled the molesters to continue molesting for years. The Rabbonim are nogeah b'davar. There is an inherent conflict of interest endorsing this billboard as it conflicts with their policy to cover up the abuse lest we be mevayesh the family of the chashuva molester. If a rabbi endorsed it would it make it any better for those bashing the sign or will you bash the rabbi endorser as well? Whose name would you need to see on it to make you feel better?

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 03:42 PM Anonymous Says:

Way to go and to all those who are badmouthing these posters you are completely ignorant to a very real problem in the community.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 03:54 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #61  
Anonymous Says:

Which Rabbi did you ask before posting your comment? Are you able to think for yourself ever? The "Rabbonim" for the most part are the ones who put us in a situation where you need to put up billboards telling people what to do if they are molested. They were the ones who handled it internally and told the molesters to do teshuva and move to another city which enabled the molesters to continue molesting for years. The Rabbonim are nogeah b'davar. There is an inherent conflict of interest endorsing this billboard as it conflicts with their policy to cover up the abuse lest we be mevayesh the family of the chashuva molester. If a rabbi endorsed it would it make it any better for those bashing the sign or will you bash the rabbi endorser as well? Whose name would you need to see on it to make you feel better?

However it says on the bottom that it is approved by gedolie poskim. So can they say who these gedolim are?

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 04:35 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

KOL HAKAVOD to those sponsoring this. Anyone who has a problem with this IS part of the problem. If this saves even one child from a lifetime of pain, it is worth it. Think about it, that one child could be yours!

What #2 said...!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 04:51 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #33  
Zacharowicz Says:

Elliot Pasik and his fellow members of the JBAC are struggling to prevent future tragedies. Their methods sometimes raise eyebrows but given the danger posed by ignorance and cover-ups, we should applaud their efforts to educate our precious children.

We must educate the parents, but unfortanately the parents do not talk to the children. If you remember when the drug problem was rapid in the jewish community no one wanted to talk. Except to not give any jail term the the criminals. "They" are great members of the community. And what happened we now have children in our community who are on drugs!!! This goes to all problems like molesting wives everything is under the table. Why Why When will all of us get the idea that problems do not disapear unless handeled properly!!!!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 05:19 PM Anonymous Says:

Molestation destroys lives!!! no question about that.... Billboards in Monticello??? i don't think that's the way to go. Honestly how many kids do U think have seen & understood this billboard??? Yerachem Hashem!!! We neeed Moshiach NOW!!!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 05:23 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #7  
bp Says:

Sometimes the truth hurts. I support the billboards

Sometimes the truth hurts, some people and promotes some other peoples agenda! Do you take achrayus on the kids being taught about sexuality? honestly, do you really believe that helps them staying clean? I do think like you that this must be stopped, perhaps we should teach kids exactly what shouldnt be done (visually)? NO! definitely NO! is there any other option? SURE! perhaps they should rot in jail, or they should be put in cherem, another thing, they should be publicized after ONLY AFTER a panel of OU, Chasidic, litvish, etc rabbis, find him guilty. There should be a panel to deal with this and they will find ways to painfully teach a real lesson without just going to the goyim yelling to them the problems we have to nebach deal with, or to running to authorities etc.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 05:25 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Come on Says:

Necessary. But NOT in public where the goyim can use it as fodder for more hatred against Yidden. Although the language doesn't specifically point at Jews, everyone will see the Hebrew and will put 2 and 2 together and get Jews have abuse problems. This should not be on a highway billboard.

Let's not bury our heads in the sand. Whatever it takes to spread the word. It Should be all over!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 05:27 PM PMO Says:

Reply to #37  
mit seichel Says:

Hi genius, there is something between "Hatzneiah Lekhes" and placing billboards on roads that are mostly traveled by non-Jews. It can be dealt with publicly within the frum world and media, and even with government agencies when appropriate. The non-Jewish driver who reads it will NOT help the situation in any way, shape or form. Do you get in now?

No, but the billboard may help the goyim, and then it is a good thing.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 05:29 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #9  
Anonymous Says:

These guys are obbsesed! Besides do they really have to write it in a Sefer Torah? Comon!

Not obssessed!! Realistic. Our children are being hurt and afraid to come forward. This gives them the chizuk!! Great idea!! know sosmeone who was upset when a finger was pointed at a molester and he protected the guy... he found out a few days later his child was molested by him. He changed his tune. Protect our kids!!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 05:29 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #1  
Come on Says:

Necessary. But NOT in public where the goyim can use it as fodder for more hatred against Yidden. Although the language doesn't specifically point at Jews, everyone will see the Hebrew and will put 2 and 2 together and get Jews have abuse problems. This should not be on a highway billboard.

Your 100% right it shouldn't be on a billboard, just let the goyim find out on the radio,newspapers,internet,etc.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 05:31 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #45  
Anonymous Says:

This is probably the dumbest thing I have seen all summer. Maybe tell Eisenman from passaic to habg one in his shul.

Dumbest thing till you find out it was your kid!!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 05:35 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #33  
Zacharowicz Says:

Elliot Pasik and his fellow members of the JBAC are struggling to prevent future tragedies. Their methods sometimes raise eyebrows but given the danger posed by ignorance and cover-ups, we should applaud their efforts to educate our precious children.

How do u explain the word SEX to yiddish kids would be a great help.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 05:36 PM Anonymous Says:

Rply to#1. What are u talking about let the goyim see that if we have a problem we deal with it, not enough that hear about us on the news let them also soo that we deal with it.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 05:52 PM Prospective Says:

Reply to #18  
tzviki Says:

better the money they spent on this "billboard" should go to kollel families who are struggling...

Kolell families could handle with their issues on their own
but thees kids unfortunately have no body to turn to.
and by the way YES this billboard (the yiddish one, guess because its more relevant in chasidishe Mosdos) Finally brings awareness to one more tragedy which is constanly shoved under the rugs. Which is HITTING yes if your kids Rebbe should ever hit him make sure to report him right away. Enough of our precious children lost to thees So called Rabayim. ENOUGH is ENOUGH Kudos!!!!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 07:17 PM Concerned Says:

Reply to #26  
true ben toireh Says:

what?! these billboards are encouraging mesira! who ever put these up should be thrown out of shul!

If you could trace who wrote certain comments like the one I quoted, I believe it would be easier to protect our children from the molesters in our community.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 07:25 PM Concerned Says:

Reply to #62  
Anonymous Says:

Way to go and to all those who are badmouthing these posters you are completely ignorant to a very real problem in the community.

Anonymous Says:
“ Way to go and to all those who are badmouthing these posters you are completely ignorant to a very real problem in the community. ”

I think you are wrong, I think they ARE the problem in the community. Do you think the molesters are not on the internet? They keep a close eye on any move the community makes to protect our children. THEY are at the forefront of the opposition to anything that might put a stop to their easy access to our children.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 07:58 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #48  
Anonymous Says:

U right its only a big pr the jbac is not the poskim of all our communities etch and every community has its way of dealing whit this problem

Yup, that is why the problem still exists. The way they have dealt with this problem all these decades is to ignore it, and so the problem perpetuates. It is a vicious cycle. Maybe you should speak to a victim or two and really get to know the story from the inside. It might help you get a dose of reality.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 08:03 PM Anonymous Says:

Tisha B'Av is a time of mourning for all victims of hatred and violence throughout our history. Perhaps we can give a few moments to the victims of sexual molestation whose lives too have been destroyed by evil people.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 08:03 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #67  
Anonymous Says:

Sometimes the truth hurts, some people and promotes some other peoples agenda! Do you take achrayus on the kids being taught about sexuality? honestly, do you really believe that helps them staying clean? I do think like you that this must be stopped, perhaps we should teach kids exactly what shouldnt be done (visually)? NO! definitely NO! is there any other option? SURE! perhaps they should rot in jail, or they should be put in cherem, another thing, they should be publicized after ONLY AFTER a panel of OU, Chasidic, litvish, etc rabbis, find him guilty. There should be a panel to deal with this and they will find ways to painfully teach a real lesson without just going to the goyim yelling to them the problems we have to nebach deal with, or to running to authorities etc.

Take a guess, how many of these organizations invited victims in to tell their stories?

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 08:04 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #73  
Anonymous Says:

How do u explain the word SEX to yiddish kids would be a great help.

Ah, this will open a line of questions that parents will be forced to answer.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 08:06 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #18  
tzviki Says:

better the money they spent on this "billboard" should go to kollel families who are struggling...

You'r a fool! One thing has nothing to do with another. Kollell families are choosing their way of life. KIDs are not choosing to be molested, they are innocent victims and need to be taught how to protect themselves.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 08:08 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #77  
Concerned Says:

Anonymous Says:
“ Way to go and to all those who are badmouthing these posters you are completely ignorant to a very real problem in the community. ”

I think you are wrong, I think they ARE the problem in the community. Do you think the molesters are not on the internet? They keep a close eye on any move the community makes to protect our children. THEY are at the forefront of the opposition to anything that might put a stop to their easy access to our children.

Good, I hope they are reading this so they know they have a choice, get help or get busted.

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 08:24 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
mit seichel Says:

To all of you heralding this billboard, you are acting like hyper children. Such a public billboard is not an effective deterrent for molestation. Educating children, parents and school/camp staff in targeted meetings, speeches and letters work. Shouting it to every passerby does nothing other than hang our dirty laundry to the outside world and make them think that molestation is even more rampant amongst us than it really is (which is bad enough).

It's about time we call a spade a spade. This is no more than a PR ploy by this organization to get attention and show that they're doing "something." Shame on the chillul Hashem.

The point of the public billboard is to educate children and their parents to the dangers of molestation.

Unfortunately, the kind of education you advocate has not been happening because certain "leaders" continue to have their heads in the sand or prefer to "sweep this under the carpet".

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 09:53 PM Anonymous Says:

Some of you are so worried about a chillul hashem. You are so naive. The chillul hashem is when we cover up abuse and the goyim know that. The biggest kiddush hashem is when we practice zero tolerance. You think no one tried to work it internally? Sorry, we would all wish it would work, but reality proved that it doesn't. We all would wish to find a better effective way, but there isn't. Now that we cry for the chorban we should think why the bais hamikdosh was destroyed. One of the reasons is because the rabbonim were silent by the seuda of kamtza and bar kamtza. How do you expect the bais hamikdosh to rebuild when the rabbonim are not only silent, but threaten the victims?! The victims' cries have reached the heavens! It cannot go on like this anymore! ENOUGH!

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 Jul 19, 2010 at 10:02 PM a yiddishe mamma Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

KOL HAKAVOD to those sponsoring this. Anyone who has a problem with this IS part of the problem. If this saves even one child from a lifetime of pain, it is worth it. Think about it, that one child could be yours!

great job!!!hopefully we will get these sick people to keep back .malostation is a vicious cycle and we must put a stop to this!!

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 09:40 AM formally Says:

Reply to #85  
Anonymous Says:

Some of you are so worried about a chillul hashem. You are so naive. The chillul hashem is when we cover up abuse and the goyim know that. The biggest kiddush hashem is when we practice zero tolerance. You think no one tried to work it internally? Sorry, we would all wish it would work, but reality proved that it doesn't. We all would wish to find a better effective way, but there isn't. Now that we cry for the chorban we should think why the bais hamikdosh was destroyed. One of the reasons is because the rabbonim were silent by the seuda of kamtza and bar kamtza. How do you expect the bais hamikdosh to rebuild when the rabbonim are not only silent, but threaten the victims?! The victims' cries have reached the heavens! It cannot go on like this anymore! ENOUGH!

we can learn from others mistakes

the big scandal about the church is mainly about the cover up.

There will always be bad people crooks what not in every group, we are judged by the way we the group handle it

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 10:35 AM molested Says:

Reply to #1  
Come on Says:

Necessary. But NOT in public where the goyim can use it as fodder for more hatred against Yidden. Although the language doesn't specifically point at Jews, everyone will see the Hebrew and will put 2 and 2 together and get Jews have abuse problems. This should not be on a highway billboard.

I am a 58 year old woman. I was molested by a friend's grandfather when I was 10 on three occasions. I never told anyone because I was ashamed. I stopped going there and I stopped being friends with the girl. I later found out that he molested many girls (including his granddaughters). I wish I had the consciousness to speak to someone the first time that it happened. That is what this billboard and other forms of publicity can do.
The secular world has been sending this message for several years. It has helped bring this issue to the forefront and gave strength and instruction to the child victims to come forward. If a child is not given this message, they are naturally ashamed and frightened. And the abuser plays on this and warns the child to keep the secret. This message changes the paradigm for the child, the parent and the society. And it lets the molester know that he is likely to be found out.
The goyim know that there are molesters in every religion, ethnic group and socioeconomic status. They know that the way to change things is to bring it to the light of day. This billboard and the notices that were sent out in Brooklyn recently can change lives.

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM Dear Ignorance Says:

Reply to #24  
mit seichel Says:

To all of you heralding this billboard, you are acting like hyper children. Such a public billboard is not an effective deterrent for molestation. Educating children, parents and school/camp staff in targeted meetings, speeches and letters work. Shouting it to every passerby does nothing other than hang our dirty laundry to the outside world and make them think that molestation is even more rampant amongst us than it really is (which is bad enough).

It's about time we call a spade a spade. This is no more than a PR ploy by this organization to get attention and show that they're doing "something." Shame on the chillul Hashem.

"Educating children, parents and school/camp staff in targeted meetings, speeches and letters work"

Is it safe to assume that you, "mit seichel," like the selfless individuals who have worked tirelessly and for decades behind the scenes while thousands of Jewish children were, in effect, murdered by child molestors, have attempted to take this approach? Do you really believe you're dealing with complete morons who have not explored every possible avenue -- and have tried to take every possible other sensible, less public approach?

Perhaps you should get to know Mr. Elliot Pasik (not to the exclusion of others involved). He is a walking Kiddush Hashem.

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 01:47 PM Sherree Belsky Says:

The best way to get the message out and to stop these molesters as well as get the Rabbonim on OUR side is to stop being anonymous and publicly show your support. Show up at the rallies and conferences. Make a statement at your own Yeshivas and Camps. Go in groups, meet as parents, sign petitions, send them to your Yeshivas, send them to your Rebbeim, send them to the appropriate organizations, send them to the Agudah. The JBAC can not do it alone nor should they be expected to do it alone.

As you see, people are trying to put them down and belittle them for their efforts. Parents AND grandparents have to take up this cause as well as any truly frum Jew with a yiddishe hartz. On this day of Tisha B'av, let's take it upon ourselves to protect our children and have one less thing to cry about next year. Let us be mekadesh Hashem and wipe out one of the worst afflictions among us to bring Moshiach sooner.

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 02:16 PM MARK MEYER APPEL Says:

Reply to #90  
Sherree Belsky Says:

The best way to get the message out and to stop these molesters as well as get the Rabbonim on OUR side is to stop being anonymous and publicly show your support. Show up at the rallies and conferences. Make a statement at your own Yeshivas and Camps. Go in groups, meet as parents, sign petitions, send them to your Yeshivas, send them to your Rebbeim, send them to the appropriate organizations, send them to the Agudah. The JBAC can not do it alone nor should they be expected to do it alone.

As you see, people are trying to put them down and belittle them for their efforts. Parents AND grandparents have to take up this cause as well as any truly frum Jew with a yiddishe hartz. On this day of Tisha B'av, let's take it upon ourselves to protect our children and have one less thing to cry about next year. Let us be mekadesh Hashem and wipe out one of the worst afflictions among us to bring Moshiach sooner.

sherree very well said the concept of educating parents and urging them to ask the yeshivas on their policies will help bring us all togeher as a united front

May hashem console us on this sad day and bring healing to all who have suffered

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 02:55 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #24  
mit seichel Says:

To all of you heralding this billboard, you are acting like hyper children. Such a public billboard is not an effective deterrent for molestation. Educating children, parents and school/camp staff in targeted meetings, speeches and letters work. Shouting it to every passerby does nothing other than hang our dirty laundry to the outside world and make them think that molestation is even more rampant amongst us than it really is (which is bad enough).

It's about time we call a spade a spade. This is no more than a PR ploy by this organization to get attention and show that they're doing "something." Shame on the chillul Hashem.

Could not have said it better.

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 03:12 PM molested Says:

I was once in a masmidim program in a well known camp I was asked to bunk with a former councelor who was closely associated with this well known orginization which ran this camp I was 14 at the time .He touched me in an inapropriate manor I did not report it . The molester was getting married in a month.However I demanded a diferent sleeping arangement the next day.This happened over 40 years ago.This problem has been around for a long time

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 04:14 PM Raphael Kaufman Says:

Reply to #90  
Sherree Belsky Says:

The best way to get the message out and to stop these molesters as well as get the Rabbonim on OUR side is to stop being anonymous and publicly show your support. Show up at the rallies and conferences. Make a statement at your own Yeshivas and Camps. Go in groups, meet as parents, sign petitions, send them to your Yeshivas, send them to your Rebbeim, send them to the appropriate organizations, send them to the Agudah. The JBAC can not do it alone nor should they be expected to do it alone.

As you see, people are trying to put them down and belittle them for their efforts. Parents AND grandparents have to take up this cause as well as any truly frum Jew with a yiddishe hartz. On this day of Tisha B'av, let's take it upon ourselves to protect our children and have one less thing to cry about next year. Let us be mekadesh Hashem and wipe out one of the worst afflictions among us to bring Moshiach sooner.

Well, Sherree, here's something that we agree on. What's needed is to remove and/or mitigate the shame and embarrassment of the victims. which can best be done by education and activism. Keeping molestation quiet while the community "deals with it" internally only increases the shame felt by the victims and discourages victims from coming forth. As to those who claim that publicizing the problem causes chilul HASHEM, The chilul HASHEM is that the Gentiles know that there are evil people in our midst, it's showing the Gentiles that we don't care about it.

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 05:26 PM Anonymous Says:

It's a start, but the sponsors need to educate themselves a bit better about this machala. Most of the abuse cases happen not Out There, at Yeshivos, camps, etc. but inside our own homes. Another ugly truth we'd rather not face.

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 06:21 PM Sherree Belsky Says:

Reply to #95  
Anonymous Says:

It's a start, but the sponsors need to educate themselves a bit better about this machala. Most of the abuse cases happen not Out There, at Yeshivos, camps, etc. but inside our own homes. Another ugly truth we'd rather not face.

We know this and it is heartbreaking. But we can't walk into peoples homes and warn children but we can take the first steps in the battle and that is to do the most generic steps which is warn parents and children about the dangers outside the home and this will raise awareness within the home without specifically telling children to be aware inside the home. Once they are taught in school how to protect themselves and what the signs of abuse are they will understand that it means wherever they are and whomever the abuser is. It will also send a message to ALL abusers whether they are friends, strangers or relatives. THEY will be caught and they will be put away. It might take some time but slowly but surely the truth will come out.

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 07:24 PM Anonymous Says:

Very necessary to fight molestation. But 1 question I want to ask and please help me with answers can some body explain why all the bums and logos always addressing this issue and we don't hear too much from erliche yiden there is something to it

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 07:44 PM Sherree Belsky Says:

Reply to #97  
Anonymous Says:

Very necessary to fight molestation. But 1 question I want to ask and please help me with answers can some body explain why all the bums and logos always addressing this issue and we don't hear too much from erliche yiden there is something to it

I'm not quite sure if understand your question and not sure if I sure be offended or not. What exactly do you mean by "bums and logos"? If you want to know why erliche yiden (which I assure you I am as is Eliot and Asher) are not involved such as Rabbonim and groups like Agudah is because they are nogeah b'davar in protecting the molesters who are Rabbonim and not stopping them.

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 07:46 PM mark mayer appel Says:

Reply to #97  
Anonymous Says:

Very necessary to fight molestation. But 1 question I want to ask and please help me with answers can some body explain why all the bums and logos always addressing this issue and we don't hear too much from erliche yiden there is something to it

shame on you calling us bums on this holy day when hashem consoles am yisroeal
remember kamtza bar kamtza we are all am echad

i am sure you wrote this comment under duress from the fast i forgive you

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 08:03 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #96  
Sherree Belsky Says:

We know this and it is heartbreaking. But we can't walk into peoples homes and warn children but we can take the first steps in the battle and that is to do the most generic steps which is warn parents and children about the dangers outside the home and this will raise awareness within the home without specifically telling children to be aware inside the home. Once they are taught in school how to protect themselves and what the signs of abuse are they will understand that it means wherever they are and whomever the abuser is. It will also send a message to ALL abusers whether they are friends, strangers or relatives. THEY will be caught and they will be put away. It might take some time but slowly but surely the truth will come out.

EDUCATION... EDUCATION... EDUCATION is the only way. Every parent should be taught what & how to teach our children. We need professional advice & that information should be circulated in our community...
btw. these billboards look very non professional amateur work

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 09:37 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #99  
mark mayer appel Says:

shame on you calling us bums on this holy day when hashem consoles am yisroeal
remember kamtza bar kamtza we are all am echad

i am sure you wrote this comment under duress from the fast i forgive you

97 again I never said you are a bum just said the guys who address this issue are usually bums and there is a saying OF THEIR GANEV BRENT DUS HITEL. I have another question and please try to answer (not to get me wrong we have to fight molestation the strongest we can)

The only issue every body is addressing is the disorder and the mental issues what that is causing NO BODY is talking about the AVERIEH what the torah is forbidding this

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 09:41 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #100  
Anonymous Says:

EDUCATION... EDUCATION... EDUCATION is the only way. Every parent should be taught what & how to teach our children. We need professional advice & that information should be circulated in our community...
btw. these billboards look very non professional amateur work

If you think they look amateurish, maybe you can "fund" the next project.

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 Jul 20, 2010 at 10:33 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #101  
Anonymous Says:

97 again I never said you are a bum just said the guys who address this issue are usually bums and there is a saying OF THEIR GANEV BRENT DUS HITEL. I have another question and please try to answer (not to get me wrong we have to fight molestation the strongest we can)

The only issue every body is addressing is the disorder and the mental issues what that is causing NO BODY is talking about the AVERIEH what the torah is forbidding this

Again, I take offense to you accusing anyone talking about this is a "bum"! The torah calls the action of molestation an "abomination"! Does that clarify it for you? If the advocates in your eyes are bums then you should know the Torah calls molesters abominations. Rav Eliyashuv calls a molester a "Rodef". The police and the Secular Courts call them "criminals". Do you need anything else explained. Oh yeah, many of us can properly call them "murderers".

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 Jul 21, 2010 at 01:47 AM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

97 again I never said you are a bum just said the guys who address this issue are usually bums and there is a saying OF THEIR GANEV BRENT DUS HITEL. I have another question and please try to answer (not to get me wrong we have to fight molestation the strongest we can)

The only issue every body is addressing is the disorder and the mental issues what that is causing NO BODY is talking about the AVERIEH what the torah is forbidding this

Oh yes, there are people who are talking about the "averieh". Not too many want to listen... If people have no yiras shomayim, then maybe the psychological way will get through their hardened hearts.

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 Jul 21, 2010 at 02:38 PM Anonymous Says:

The problem of molestation is complex, and the many who need to address it come from many different perspectives - hence different labels. This reminds me of the jingle advertising Kent cigarettes in the '60's, each verse concluding "To a smoker it's a Kent".

To a Rav, it's an aveira. To a mental health professional, it's a psychiatric illness. To a menahel, it's a reputation sullied. To a victim, it's a murderer. To a parent, it's a rodef. To a law enforcement agency, it's a crime. To a blogger, it's a gold mine topic.

With all this tongue in cheek, the issue is quite serious, certainly in severity if not in statistics. We are all likely to perceive it differently.

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