Emmanuel, Israel – An Emmanuel rabbi upset at the sight of go-karting girls stormed the course and caused damage to the facility; the rabbi’s vehicle was later vandalized in apparent retaliation for the incident.
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The confrontation ensued after several girls arrived at the go-karting course in the religious community. “Usually this doesn’t happen, as I respect the spirit of the community, but one of my employees brought some young relatives who really wanted to try it out so I let them do it,” said Amram Gutman, one of the facility’s owners.
However, not everyone in Emmanuel liked the idea of girls sitting behind the wheel, and one resident present at the site informed local Rabbi Yehoida Gadasi of the breach.
“He stormed the course, forced the girls to get out, lifted the go-karts, and simply broke them,” one eyewitness said. “He turned the cars over and slammed them on the floor while uttering quite a few curses.”
Other eyewitnesses said the rabbi’s followers later arrived on his orders and removed all the go-karts from the course. Only after a verbal dispute with the facility’s owners, the rabbi agreed to place the cars at the warehouse on site.
“I just arrived at that time and tried to talk to the rabbi, but he told me there was nothing to talk about,” co-owner Gutman said. “He was yelling that I opened a brothel and we couldn’t do a thing. He simply removed three go-karts from the course. There’s nothing more infuriating than this.”
Gutman said he and his two partners plan to file a complaint over the incident in the near future. He added that as result of the damage caused to the go-karts, he cannot operate the facility at this time.
“I called the police, but the community police officer called it off, claiming there as no violence involved,” he said.
However, the retaliation to the incident soon followed, with Rabbi Gadasi’s vehicle vandalized a few nights later. The vehicle’s tires were slashed and a windshield was shattered. According to local residents, the perpetrators of the “revenge attack” were teenagers upset over the rabbi’s acts. Gutman said he was blamed by the rabbi for the act of vandalism and was taken in for interrogation before being released.
However, Rabbi Gadasi’s associates present a different version for the events. The rabbi’s assistant, Ophir Shlush, said Gadasi and his followers shut down the facility only after the violation of an agreement whereby only boys would be allowed to drive the go-karts.
“The cars were indeed overturned, but they were not broken,” he said, adding that the matter was clarified and resolved.
What a kiddush hashem……
What a travesty by someone who should be a role model for young bochurim. Either Gadosai is a total am haoretz or he is a danger to himself and the community. There was no “mixed” driving or anything remote contrary to halacha in what these girls did. I normally wouldn’t condone vandalism but maybe in this one case it might be justified if for no other reason than to teach him a lesson (which the legal action brought by the owners is a more responible and adult way to punish him for the damages he caused).
The rabbi showed up and destroyed a business man’s property because he was upset that girls were driving… go-carts? And this, in the rabbi’s fevered imagination, is the equivalent to running a brothel? First, the rabbi should be required to pay for the damage he did. Second, he should be punished criminally for vandalism. Third, he should get it though his head that he doesn’t have the legal right to make rules for people who don’t work for him. If Israelis wanted that kind of nonsense, they could move to Iran.
can the girls driving the go cart will be Expelled from the Slonim school?
When does this stop? When does the insanity, the violence, the hyprocrisy STOP? This is *not* Judaism and certainly nothing I signed on for!
These people wreak immeasurable damage and do so by wielding their chutzpah and self-righteousness. The best I can do is strengthen me and my family so that if and when we meet folks like this we can respond in a way that maintains our dignity, our self-respect, and the G-Dliness with which we’re we’re imbued. If I live my life afraid of them, I’ll simply never live.
May G-D help us fight the real battles and learn when to turn away from the fake ones.
Look how one event leads to another. A concert where families could enjoy sitting together if forced by threats to be cancelled. Soon after a some girls are terrorized by lunatics upset that they are driving go karts. You give these fanatics a finger, they want control over the whole hand. Yidden, remember we have only one boss!
Only boys should drive go carts. Only boys should walk the street. Is this what we are coming to?
Mixed driving is now chilul hashem. It is actions like this that prevent the moschiach from coming.
Ask Rabbi Gadosai where it says that girls are not permitted to rider go-karts? Also ask him where it says that he is permitted to ruin someone’s property, cause a loss of parnasah? This is a hilul Hashem!
Reply to #1
“What a kiddush hashem……”
In chodesh elul, for you to make a mockery of “kiddush hashem” should make you worry about your own neshama. When someone acts like a chaya while dressed in the lvush of a “rav” and you call that “kiddush hashem”??? shame on you for mocking hashem yisbarach and what brings keddushah to his name.
And then these idiots wonder why our precious youth go off the “derech” and when they go, they go real far.
Because when a Rabbi doesn’t understand what a kosher outlet for youth is it shows them he doesn’t even begin to appreciate them.
Similar to the “edict” that yeshiva boys shouldn’t play bal, so what happens? They go way off.
Can some one please tell me what the big deal is if girls drive?
The morality police are at it again. This behaviour is no different than that exhibited by many right wing Christian ministries.
Since when are rabbis people that turn over cars and threaten people looks like the problem in emmanuel starts with the respectable persons
I wish this “Rabbi” would explain, publicly, how his actions brought these children closer to Hashem.
Interesting that in Israel this is considered so bad, I know that Satmar camps in the US take the girls go-carting themselves.
Hashem yerachaim!
even if they had an agreement for only boys to use the go carting, it still doesnt give a right to any rabbi (no matter how great he may think he is) to be mazik beyadayim someone elses property. Its totally against halacha, and more so human ethics and mussar. Its acts like these that our children will emulate when they are involved in similar situations since they learn from their rabbis. Is this how we want to educate our children. Better that rabbi goes back to yeshiva and starts learning some mussar seforim like the orchas tzadikim, chovas halevovas, and simple cumash with Rashi, to learn how to control his anger, and deal with other people according to Torah values, controling his animalistic behavior.
Its unfortunate that people like this are the teachers of our children, and its high time to find suitable rabbis and teachers who dont allow their anger to get the better of their intellect, and better judgement when confronting cases like these even if they are a thousand per cent in the right! And by the way who said that a group of dati girls cant drive go carts if they go as a group? Did this Rabbi ever bother asking a Posek the question?
I say enough is enough. We need to put an end to those that abuse others under the guise of religion. This is not the torah way.
Can some one please tell me where in the Torah it says that Women are not allowed to drive?
If the Israeli police had done their job, they would have charged the Rabbi with disorderly conduct, harassment, and criminal mischief. I don’t understand what the Rabbi’s problem was, as there was no mixed driving of boys and girls?
Its no surprise that this would happen in Emanuel, considering this is the same community whose school literally “walled off” some little girls from their classmates because their parents weren’t frum enough for the bigots who administered the school. Whats next, will this be like Kabul or Theran where girls who don’t cover their heads and faces in public will risk public beatings?? how can this be happening in eretz yisroel?
i truly hope #1 was joking this is ayatoller judiasm at its worst if the rabbi is cso upset he could always students and follwers to stop going but i feaqr he knows they wont listen kids to day no non sense when they see it or hear it what ever happened to our beautiful religion i wonder if rav moishe or rav aaron would have behaved this or condoned it?
Who is this so called rabbi, He stormed the course, forced the girls to get out, lifted the go-karts, and simply broke them,” one eyewitness said. “He turned the cars over and slammed them on the floor while uttering quite a few curses.” I’ve never seen or heard of a true rabbi acting like this, why dose every “no goodnick” get the tittle rabbi this days.
Did you ever notice that fanatics don’t practice self control? They act like wild men to terrorize people that don’t conform to their twisted ideals. Lock up this Perah Adam.
The rabbi was one hundred percent right. If you don’t know the facts how can you accuse. There were plenty of people there who said there was no vandalism . And the fact is mr.gutman had agreed himself not to let girls on (whether that’s crazy or not is not the point) the bottom line is – get the facts first and then accuse (if you think you should have a say anyway )
too bad none of the girls had the guts to run him over. This guy is nuts. even if he felt they should not go go-carting he could have waited and then spoken to them.
The police and prosecutors have to start and crack down on these nuts
To #1 0 and # 20…I think that poster #1 was being sarcastic. You should be “dan l’kaf zchus” next time…
What’s the big deal??? All of our great gedolim of the previous generation would have done the same. Rav Moshe, Rav Yaakov, Rav Pam, the Bobover Rebbe, the Klausenberger Rebbe, they all used violence to me mekaraiv achinu bais yisroel to torah and yiddishkeit.
After reading about the ‘neturei karta’ punks who brought out the palestinian flag at a wedding and then pushed around an older frum man who tried to stop them, and after reading about the ‘modesty police’ who are now having spies attend ‘treif’ concerts like Shwekey and Avraham Fried, I posted the following comment and I think it’s worthwhile posting again:
When will we do more than just vent on online forums about religious Jewish fanatics that destroy Torah and create sinas chinam? When we will actually try to put an end to this and stop this nonsens? When will the gedolim actually speak out against these morons?
I must ask, why is it that when there is a kol koreh against watching TV or a protest against the secular courts, many of the big names sign their names and put out statements but they rarely seem to speak out against horrific acts perpretrated by so called frum people…?
Before we rush to comment on a story like this we should really first verify its accuracy as well as find not more details like who this rabbi is, what is his position, whom dose if represent. Did it happen under his jurisdiction. Dose he usually behave this way and so on. Since the line between hardline orthodox jews and moderate ones are increasingly becoming clearer it is importent that we dont just turn into an anti orthodox entity.
Today at 01:15 PM facts Says:
The rabbi was one hundred percent right. If you don’t know the facts how can you accuse. There were plenty of people there who said there was no vandalism . And the fact is mr.gutman had agreed himself not to let girls on (whether that’s crazy or not is not the point) the bottom line is – get the facts first and then accuse (if you think you should have a say anyway )
there are witnesses there is a picture of a turned over go-cart get the facts.
even if the owner agreed that is no excuse to go on the course. let him yell at the girls. I really think that some of the herideim should build a wall around their community and let them do as they please and not bother anybody else
Number 29, you are right on the money. These chasidm want to use women like shmatas.
I find it intriguing that no one has said anything about the track owner. This man entered into an agreement to discriminate. In the states, that would be an illegal agreement. Imagine some amusement park owner posting a “No Women Allowed” sign. How long do you think that would last? Part of the problem is that, apparently, in Israel, this, uhm, stuff, is *allowed* to happen. IMHO, they should both serve some time in jail.
Throughly discussed either way. No understanding and no talking just action. I don’t know the emes and until I do nothing sound rights, either from the operator or the rabbi. I don’t know what was agreeded before hand but if you can’t trust with a hand shake all contracts will not survive. Lets close this issue and get working on Elul NOW
Cant wait for my next trip to Israel – will cruise around in my rental car round and round emmanuel – anyone have this rabbi’s address, I could sit outside his door and wave to him when he comes out.
On a serious note this is pathetically disgusting – this rabbi belongs in Tehran!!! I am really starting to wonder now what is the truth that goes on in Emmanuel?
#32 non ofv the great rabbium you mentioned would ever dare to do what this fanatic did. these great men were true gentlemen talmidium and scholars they saw yiddishkiet as an inclusive religion not an intolerant one as you profess. they were to busy buolding what we are destroying sorry its the pip sqeakes of today running amuck and for there followers let them get jobs and stop coming to america for handouts
#39 meet you at the plaza
Does this Rabbi not own a phone? Couldn’t he have called the owner/manager and remind him of their agreement? Wouldn’t that have made a kidush Hashem rather than this chilul Hashem? Wouldn’t that have been the kind of respond the Gemarah would have required from him? Wouldn’t that have been more appropriate than sweeping down on the girls like a vulture? Would it not have been more appropriate for the owner to have flagged all the girls back in and say “sorry the fun is over for now, the track is closed.” He could have then explained that he had an agreement with the Rav that this activity was a “boys only” activity and the Rav just called to remind him.
For those of you wondering this Rabbi happens to be Sefardi not Slonim. (Actualy I doubt an Ashkenazi Rabbi would personaly protest in such a manor.)
Many of the comments display a major missunderstanding of social norms in Israel. What the proper social norms should be are open to debate in a more fitting forum than this, but regardless of what you hold of them they still have to be taken into account what you consider his actions.
In general I find Americans look at the world through the eyes of American values & for all their big talk of being plouralistic & open minded nevertheless find it hard to accept values other than their own.
Reply to #32
“All of our great gedolim of the previous generation would have done the same”
NO they would not have used violent and dysfunctional behavior to express their disagrement on such a matter. If they had, we would not regard them as “gadolim” and they probably would have been punished for such action. We have better role models than those you cite as engaging in such disgusting behavior. Some of these rabbonim you mention are highly regarded even by today’s norms in the heimeshe tzibur.
To #43
While I don’t know all the details of this case, I totally agree with you that there are very different social Norms to American society.
To #44
Your comment of American pluralism is an oxymoron, proven by the fact of allowance of Muslim intolerance. You are basically saying that we accept everyone/everything (as long as you fall within OUR values). This is especially true within religious boundaries. Its a very fine line to tread and its sad to see how westernized our subjective views have become.
There have been many articles on VIN in the past few months dealing with the extreme behavior of some chareidim, ultra-orthodox or whatever you want to call them. However, the vile and disgusting behavior of this “Rav Gadasi” from Emanuel is beyond belief. I’ve never really wished that the ebeshter should cause pain to another yid but in this case I’m willing to make an exception, especially now that we are in Elul and approaching the yomim noraim. This rav will have a difficult time explaining to hashem why he should be given the benefit of the doubt for the chilul hashem he has caused. Rachmonis on any family he may have.
It’s a beferesh Chazal, “Assur L’Isha Linhog ha’merkava,” yevamos 43b
I would bet that the 3 girls who were embarrassed by the Malbim Pnei Chaveiro Rabbi just love their Jewish religion right now. What a way to be mekarev a fellow jew.
I think This “Rabbi” and the rest of the Wahabi-Sunni-Charedim, in Emmanuel, should make Aliyah to Saudi Arabia.
Regardless of what actually happened, we do know that this rabbi (lower case) got very upset over girls driving go karts. Is that really something to get upset about Befarhesya?
In the good ol’ days, girls stayed home and helped their parents. None of this go-cart nonsense.
I know this Goodman family from when they lived in boro park on 44 st
She is a widow
This most be her son
This rabbi gadasi is a yemenite rabbi for baal teshuva families who ran the case against the slonim boy school that supposedly separated between Ashkanazi and sephardic
Saudi Arabia is there!
The community officer needs to be replaced. This is a clear violation of criminal code. I would never wish to see a Rabbi ‘cuffed, but he should have been.
I wasn’t there so don’t know both sides of the story. But, I do know that when girls drive a go kart their skirts have a tendency to ride up, thereby exposing their legs, so it would only be proper for girls to go go-karting when it is a girl’s only event. Even if some people consider it ossur for girls to drive cars, go-karting is a recreational event and if girls go go-karting, that doesn’t mean they will drive cars later on. I don’t know anything about the community in which this took place, but, I think , that if the particular group that went go-karting was very strict about girls not driving, who are others to say otherwise?