Israel – Satmar Present Set of Rules Against Zionism

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    File photo of the previous Satmar Rabbis Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, and Rabbi Moses Teitelbaum, attending a protest in Year 1958 in Manhattan center against IsraelIsrael – In honor of the 31st anniversary of the death of first leader of the Satmar Hasidism anti-Zionist sect, Rabbi Yoel Teitelbaum, a number of his followers published a pamphlet in his memory containing sixty questions and their answers regarding the rabbi’s zealous attitude towards the State of Israel.

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    The pamphlet is entitled “Ish Milhamot” (Man of Wars). It is intended to act as a guide for the perplexed Hassid. In its own words, it provides “clear answers to those seeking the truth to questions and queries over the test of time so the current generation will know the path it should take.”

    According to the Satmar rebbe, Zionism is a total violation of the Torah. “If we were to take all the violations of the generation and the many transgressions committed around the world and placed them on one side of a scale and the Zionist state on the other side, it would be overwhelmingly decided that it is root of all impurity and damage in the entire world and contaminates the entire world,” the rebbe wrote in the pamphlet.

    In response to the question “Who is the minister of the Zionists in Heaven?”, the rabbi answered in a response from the previous century, “Obviously the Angel of Death is their minister. Behold, every country has its governor… this country, which is rooted and based in the forces of impurity and the Other Side, this certainly is its minister.”

    The pamphlet also outlines: Even those who believe that a Jewish state must exist in the Land of Israel having no other choice because of pikuach nefesh (saving a life) “violate the holy Torah.” The pamphlet directs readers to the Tractate of Avot, saying that the sentence “every man is judged favorably” is said about everyone except Zionists. In addition, it asserts that it is a mitzvah to speak lashon hara (slander) about Zionists.

    “Whoever has a part in this is delaying redemption at every moment and is delaying the inspiration of the Divine Presence and is delaying the coming of the Messiah. Even someone who takes the smallest part, even as slight as the edge of a yod (the tenth and smallest letter of the Hebrew alphabet)… even someone who bends towards them, even by one hair, must be avoided like a bowshot. Whoever thinks yes (that Zionism is the correct path) and not just whoever says yes or even has a thought to this effect, is certainly a heretic.”

    The rabbi added, “I do not want to have any association with a Jew who thinks like this, and I do not want to find anyone who thinks like this even for a moment in my beit midrash (house of study)… In previous generations, if people only suspected of someone that he has tendencies to think this way in his heart, he was sent away, not included in prayer, and in this manner was they ride themselves of such plight.”

    The pamphlet’s authors quoted a number of extreme statements made by their rabbi and translate them into practical halachic instructions. For instance, prayer rallies held by Religious Zionists or haredim must not be attended, even in a time of war; the rulings of great Torah scholars who recognize Israel must not be followed, saying they are the root of all of Israel’s troubles.

    “Truly, if it were possible, and even with true devotion, to announce to the nations of the world that these evil people are not the representatives of Israel and Torah- and mitzvoth-keeping Jews, who have no connection to them, this would be one of the biggest mitzvoth that would need to be carried out with devotion,” it was written in the pamphlet.

    Zionism, according to Rebbe Teitelbaum, will not last forever. The following is a translation from his writings in Yiddish. “The Messiah will not come until no remnant or survivor remains from this kingship. It must become null and void. A Jew who believes in the Creator of the Universe cannot be satisfied with anything otherwise… all the buildings built by the heretics and infidels in our holy land will be burnt and destroyed by the Messiah king.”

    In the meantime, the Satmar pamphlet also stipulated that living in the State of Israel is forbidden.

    In another section, the pamphlet implied that a rabbi need not be consulted before carrying out acts against Zionists, based on the model put forth by the biblical Pinhas who killed Jews who sinned.

    Regarding homes containing an Israeli flag, the pamphlet instructed Satmar followers not to enter. “Beyond any doubt, a house containing any reference to the flag must not be entered because it is a bastion of the forces of impurity.”

    The Satmar rebbe wrote of the renewal of the Hebrew language is worse than speaking “languages of the nations” because changing the holy language is “contemptible, abominable, and impure.”

    “It is completely forbidden to speak Hebrew because it is an extension of the actions of the heretics and infidels who destroy and ruin religion and thus acknowledges the heretics and infidels and their idol worship and is a violation of the entire Torah.”


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    It’s hard to disagree, they established a state to say “we are like all the other nations and we have no need for god and his Torah”…

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Now, I’m totaly mixed up!!

    shredready
    shredready
    13 years ago

    how come the satmer speak a goyish language Yiddish it is only a mixture of Polish German and a little Slavic. And somehow that became a holy language. The language of your oppressors became holy, weird

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Only now years later do we see how right the great rabbi was. in this whole subject. only now do we see what their original goal was. what a shame on us being represented by such people who want that judasim in a whole should mean something else than it use to mean. what a shame on this whole situation what a loss that we all didnt see this happening in the first minute. we would have saved so much. We would of saved jewish children from being were they are today. (all the children from teiman) we would save so much holy tombs from being uprooted. WHAT A SHAME! WHAT A SHAME!

    lakewood boy
    lakewood boy
    13 years ago

    nothing new in all above statments the same view was shared by a big majority of gdoilei yisroel pre 2nd WW and according r’ elchono vaserman the chofets chaim told him that the zionists are the amoleikim in our generation, that view was also shared by r’ boruch ber of kamenits and the brisker rov z”l

    chugibugi
    Active Member
    chugibugi
    13 years ago

    let’s not forget,that 99% of gedolim,belz, vishnitz,ger,klausenburg,and all of the roshey hayeshivas,the chazon ish,steipler,thsebiner rav,rav isser zalman meltzer,rav ahron kotler,reb moishe feinstein etc.etc. they all vehemently disagreed with him,
    the sad fact is,that satmar had a irrational and sick obsession with medinas yisroel,and it culminated with groups of ex satmars,working together and partnering with the PLO and Hammas and Iran murderers,against their own brothers and sisters.

    yyy
    yyy
    13 years ago

    its very extreme
    MASKIM no hallel on yom hatzmaot but,

    “The Messiah will not come until no remnant or survivor remains from this kingship. It must become null and void. A Jew who believes in the Creator of the Universe cannot be satisfied with anything otherwise… all the buildings built by the heretics and infidels in our holy land will be burnt and destroyed by the Messiah king.”

    thats pushing it

    “the worst jew is better then the best goy”
    gra,

    reuven from flatbush
    reuven from flatbush
    13 years ago

    its known what r’ vevel brisker said in the name of his father r’ chaim :that people make a mistake thinking that the aim of the zionists was the make a medina and because of that they destroy the torah and misvas,wrong, their goal is to destroy torha and mitsvos and to accomplish that they make a medinah

    shredready
    shredready
    13 years ago

    Anonymous Says:

    Only now years later do we see how right the great rabbi was.

    just the opposite, hasem is punishing him (maybe) that his own chassideim are fighting with other. and do not daven in each others shuils, maybe it is a simun

    shredready
    shredready
    13 years ago

    the Zionist saved his live and his family’s.

    I guess no good deed goes unpunished

    Chaya
    Chaya
    13 years ago

    The Lubavitcher rebbe ztl did not agree w Zionism, but believed in pikuach nefesh, and therefore helping the state of Israel. A yid is a yid. How can we abandon our brothers? Af al pi shechata yisroel hu. Hamas and achmadinejad are the amaleikim

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Response to #7 Who says that Viznitz, Klosenburg and Ger didn’t agree. The just have a different way of combatting zionism. Building Moisdos and fighting them from the inside.

    satmar chusid
    satmar chusid
    13 years ago

    He also said that the State of Israel should disappear “Without any loss of a single Jewish person”

    That the “Arabs should be destroyed like vapor”

    He also cried bitterly in 1967’s 6-day war for every jewish soldier lost in the war!

    shredready
    shredready
    13 years ago

    chugibugi Says:

    let’s not forget,that 99% of gedolim,belz, vishnitz,ger,klausenburg,and all of the roshey hayeshivas,the chazon ish,steipler,thsebiner rav,rav isser zalman meltzer,rav ahron kotler,reb moishe feinstein etc.etc. they all vehemently disagreed with him,
    the sad fact is,that satmar had a irrational and sick obsession with medinas yisroel,and it culminated with groups of ex satmars,working together and partnering with the PLO and Hammas and Iran murderers,against their own brothers and sisters.

    could be, I think he might have been bitter that the secular and Zionist did a better job in saving Jews during WWII than he did. He told his chasedeim to stay and that was their death sentence. Therefore, to save himself and admit that the Zionist where right to leave, he attacks them.

    He could of handled it better

    13 years ago

    Do the Satmar Rebbe and/or NK claim that before mashiach the Jews are prohibited from conquering the Land of Israel?

    The overwhelming majority of authentic POSKIM in the last thousand years strongly refute the Satmar Rebbe and NK’s primary halachic positions.

    For example, see Pischei Tshuvah Shulchan Aruch Evan HaEzer 75:6 which states that all the rishonim and achronim held there is today a mitzvah of YISHUV HAARETZ. Also see the Ramban additional mitzvah #4 in Sefer HaMitzvos, where he clearly states it is a milchemes mitzvah to conquer Eretz Yisrael.

    Regarding relinquishing land to genocidal Jihadists, see Shulchan Aruch Orach Chayim 329:6 which strictly prohibits ceding land to our enemies.

    Furthermore, Satmar’s halachic “analysis” is based on ignorance of basic historical facts. For example, how many Satmars are aware that:

    1. In the 1920’s the US Congress passed a law recognizing the Palestine Mandate to create a Jewish homeland.

    2. In November 1947 the UN General Assembly, after being given control of Eretz Yisrael by the British, voted by a majority vote (33 to 13) to partition Eretz Yisrael into Jewish and Arab states.

    3. It was the Arabs, not the Jews who violated International law when the Arabs attacked the new Jewish state. The Jews fought the Arabs in self defense, NOT in rebellion against the nations. Self defense is allowed under both HALACHA and International law, regardless of whether the Satmars allow it.

    See the Sefer Eim HaBanim Smeicha, which is translated to English, and available online. Google “Eim Habanim Semeichah” and
    see the tsel web site. This sefer was written by a authentic pre-war European Gadol who accused the anti-zionist rabbis of pre-war Europe of committing the CHET HAM’RAGLIM and having blood on their hands for telling Jews not to immigrate to Eretz Yisrael. Regrettably, this sefer is rarely learned or discussed in Chareidi circles because it explodes the halachic errors of the anti-zionist rabbis.

    Q
    Q
    13 years ago

    Not c”v to argue with thr Satmar Ruv, ztzk”l, zy”a, but what is the solution today? There are seven (?) million yiddin living there today, even if it is true (and there were still other gedolai yisroel of his generation who didn’t entirely agree with him) their parents and grandparents should not have gone there.

    What should be done now? Give the country to the yishma’ailim and sit back and watch the murder of another six million yiddin, c”v?

    Ask Hungry and Poland and Romania and Ukraine and Lithuania and Slovkia and Bulgaria and Albania and countries that no longer exist to take back those who have roots in those countries, and feed the Eastern European’s another few million gallons of Yiddisher blood?

    To protest in front of the U.N. and weaken the security of the state by encouraging its enemies? To fight against today’s secular state that doesn’t itself believe in Zionism, who couldn’t tell you the first thing about Hertzel’s Zionism?

    Seriously, I’m not Satmar or even chassidish but my kids know they’d better step between me and even a guest in our home who says one word even hinting something against the Satmar Ruv (or any of the haileger ladies in Satmar Bikur Cholim, of course).

    Facts being what they are today though, what is the sensible solution?

    What would Reb Yoel ztzk”l, zy”a, the fire in the belly of chassidus, what would the lion of yiddishkeit say today? Mistam it would be worth to fast from Elul to Yom Kippur to be zocheh to know the answer to this 7,000,000 person question.

    anyview
    anyview
    13 years ago

    not clear to me what the position of Stmar is on negotiating peace. does Satmar favor a one state solution with a Palastinian majority?

    it’s hard to imagine that chareidim living in Kiryas Seifer or Mea Shearim would want to hand over thir security and budgetary needs to the palestineans, but based on some of the posts here, that seems to be the case.

    I haven’t seen the chareidim, or Satmar for that matter advocate in favor of the Palestineans taking over Yerushlayim, K”O or other chareidi towns. why not and what is their position on this?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    I’m sure zionism is bad, but other gedolim disagreed on how to handle the issue. Remember we have over 6 million of our brothers “stuck” there for good, so agitating the situation is playing with 6 million lives.
    One thing is a definite no no… The chillul hashem happening in satmar’s own back yard is a lot worse than zionism

    JamesDean
    JamesDean
    13 years ago

    Look at his Yorshim.

    Enough said on that subject.

    I did find one very interesting point in this article, the one about the flag.

    Does this mean if I have an Israeli flag in my house no collectors with any links to Satmar are allowed to collect from me?

    Kma Kvider
    Kma Kvider
    13 years ago

    It is a foolish and ignorant document. Ignoring the fact that despite Satmar rav’s dire predictions, Israel has become today the largest Jewish community in the world, and the greatest mokom Torah in history.

    According to his Shita this is all the work of the Satan himself not G-D. (sic).
    but G-D himself brought Aushwitz on the European Jews as a punishment.

    The churban hatora and the Holocaust is G-Ds work but the saving of Jews and rebuilding of Tora is left to the Devil.

    My Puorto Rican Catholic neighbor Couldn’t have said it better himself

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    After reading last night’s article here on VIN that the satmer in KJ are fighting each other over garbage and trashing/vandalizing one another’s homes and cars over garbage, why would any rational yid take this piece of garbage seriously. Many chashuve rabbonim as noted by other posters including the belz, vishnitz,ger,klausenburg,rav moshe etc. ALL dismissed the Satmer rebbe’s obcessive hatred of eretz yisroel and the ultimate in sinsas chinam and the reason moishiach has not come. This latest piece of trash belongs with the others, in the trash can.

    shredready
    shredready
    13 years ago

    Just anybody know for a fact that what is says in this pamphlet that is attributed him is in fact what he said?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Dear Satmar,
    Please be busy with the terrible chillul Hashem happening in the courts in the USA. Plz look at the chillul Hashem being created when simchas torah turns into “kristelnacht” in your shul (for those who don’t know what I’m talking about google satmar riots sichas torah). I can go on and on but VIN won’t allow such a long comment…
    Bottom line: living in a glass house? Don’t throw any stones!!!

    favish
    favish
    13 years ago

    #5 please post 5,6 rabbis (of course they have to be on the divrei yoels caliber) who held otherwise

    favish
    favish
    13 years ago

    #20 oh yes, and how so. what are your criteria to measure ‘chillil hashem’ or is it abi geret

    favish
    favish
    13 years ago

    #15 listen here mr apikores of the 1st order as prooven with your posts all over..we dont know who you are but the midah hadin knows so see gemmlorah brochos 19a..what happens to those who talk deogetory against the riboni shel oiloms faitful servant.s (definition of Apikores=ai zahu apikores zeh hamevaze talmud chacham ..prek chelek)so f your not carfeful and if you dont go, the sooner the better, to the holy divrei yoel resting place and ask mechila i can gaurautee you the midas hadin will taKE CARE OF YOU.

    funny
    funny
    13 years ago

    What’s interesting is, that in the yeshiva velt, the SR, along with very very few others, is crefited with building Torah judaism (artscroll style) in America.
    the harsh pronouncments and all.
    And other gedolim, who’s’ hallmark was love for every yid and concern for eretz yisrael is villified and held in such utter contempt
    Think about who this and tell me I’m wrong.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Maran HAGH”K M’SATMAR ZY”A was the gadol & manhig hador in all aspects of the 3 Amudei haolam of Torah,Avodah & gemilas chassadim. i dont think anybody held different regarding the jewish state , only once its here how should we go about it . i think the satmar Rav put up the nicest kehilla with the most Torah Avodah & gemillas chassadim +tznius ,kashrus ,kanais & yiddishkeit. maybe there are 200 bachurim fighting around “mi b’rosh” Aroinim & Zaloinim ‘but do you know that satmar has 25,000 families ?

    favish
    favish
    13 years ago

    #32 25,000? thats the ubdersatement of the generation…you gor more then that in will alone. alone

    charliehall
    charliehall
    13 years ago

    “it is root of all impurity and damage in the entire world “

    This is the kind of nonsense we usually hear from the Hamas thugs and the Iranian mullahs.

    “the pamphlet implied that a rabbi need not be consulted before carrying out acts against Zionists, based on the model put forth by the biblical Pinhas who killed Jews who sinned”

    This would put the author of the pamphlet in the same category as the most vile Arab terrorists. Din rodef?

    R’Yoel Teitlebaum z’tz’l would never have suggested violence against a fellow Jew.

    favish
    favish
    13 years ago

    #1 just curious, what does the term ‘art scroll style ‘ mean

    Henoch
    Henoch
    13 years ago

    The State of Israel is the largest supporter of Torah study in the world today and there is no close second.

    cowfy
    cowfy
    13 years ago

    to use the rebbes words out of context is the message here.the rebbe was a godol and brought down the daiot as he learned them.he was outnumbered by other gadolim but of course the satmars will say they wer’nt as big as he was naturaly.the inyon of yeshuv eretz yisroel is a complex one and this rebel rousing rag published in the name of the rebbe is just for a political advantage.if anyone really wants to know what the noise is all about he may inquire of a safer avnie nezer and there are stated the perticulers and the machlokes of hilchose yesuve eretz yisroel.

    emes
    emes
    13 years ago

    th arabs will never stops till yuo give tham back every part! And it is so!! You tell me with what he is untrue?? But I’ll be stupid to show to you every think he said is true because you are not interested in the real true derech hatorah! Look! We all have “the yetzer hora” !!
    If are you looking for the real EMES look in his seforim and put a check on the think you are thinking that it is untrue!
    There is a web side you can go on to see a bit.. I’m not sure, but you can check on google for the real spelling : truetorahjews.com look and understand a little and the rest you will see with your eyes!!!!
    And for those people that said that 99 percent of gedolim are.. You don’t know the facts!! Yes you don’t know what was going on with prier the belzer ZT”L that he waited to listen what the satmar rabbi ZT”L says about the votes, but they (few gabaim) never let thru the dayunim! And the gabaim tould him sheker..
    Look if you want (if you realy want) there is real facts!

    cowfy
    cowfy
    13 years ago

    its probably the netura karta nuts again.this is not to be taken seriously.wonder were they got the mony to publish?from iran no doubt.

    TorahTruth
    TorahTruth
    13 years ago

    There is a famous story that occurred with the Gaon Horav Shragah Feivel Mendolovitch, the peron without question that brought Torah to America. In a meeting with the Satmar Rov, he quoted many Midrashim and Gemoro’s to support the Stamar philosophy. After the meeting Rav Shraga Feivel said that he could have quoted just as many Midrashim and Gemora’s to refute the Satmar Rov and support the Yishuv Haaretz philosophy, but he said he didn’t because it was clear that the Satamar Rov had his mind made up. The bottom line is that Satmar is a Daas Yachid today and the majority of Gedolai Yisrael do not support his position.

    TorahTruth
    TorahTruth
    13 years ago

    To Favish… te problem is that anyone I will quote you will say is not on the level of the Satmar Rov… that is a challenge but I;ll try anyway…

    Horav Techtal (Aim Haboniim Semaycha), Rav Kook, Rav Tzvi Hirsch Kalisher, Bostoner Rebbe, Ponvicher Rav, Rav Yosef Kafach (Dayin Yerushalayim Best Din)… do you need more?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Even lots of the zionist are agreeing
    By now with the hiliger satmer rabbi ztz”l that the madina is the worse thing that could have happend…

    13 years ago

    To all talkbackers. Rav Yoel ain’t the first Gadol nor is he the last and final gadol. Rav Yoel came into this world in middle of a long and rich history of Israel and the Jewish nation. i am not knocking his views but just a small thought. The time he said his view was a time that Israel was a police state.The People were innocent and dumb and the govt did what they did as communist Russia. Today however it is not so. They cannot do what they please in their own land without the world commenting. Every Rabbi in his time is needed. His time is up. Although his torah is forever his political views would have definitely changed I hope we can all agree on politics changing.
    As a Jewish nation we must realize that G-d and only G-d runs the World. It is one of the 13 Jewish principles. We do not believe in the Devil or Satan competing with G-d. Hashem ish milchama Hashem Shimo. The devil did not fight for us. Please stop sounding like a bunch of catholics.
    There were Jews and mainly Sephardic Jews living in Eretz Yisroel before satmar was even born. They are not the final view. Just as Avraham AVINU died 5 years early so as not to see esav sin so too Rav Yoel died the year NK started their own split from Judaism. The rabbis now and his students are not him. They are taking a risk in this world to follow one daas. There is a 50% chance they will go to heaven and 50% chance to hell. In my opinion it’s not worth that risk. I am sure if it is hell their rav rav yoel will be spinning in his grave.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    I would like to know, how many of all the posters here were learning already the holy sefer “Vyoel Moshe” to learn about his Shita, before you post your mind in regarding to it?

    biography reader
    biography reader
    13 years ago

    I once read in the sefer paer hador (biography of the chazon ish) that after the creation of the state there was 2 briss milahs at the chazon ish that happend to be on 5th of eyer (israeli independece day) the chzone ish paskened that they should say tachnun in spite of the fact that al pi shulchon oruch you dont say tachnun at a briss (lehotsie milibam shel tsedokim)

    yerushalmi99
    yerushalmi99
    13 years ago

    Remember not having any association with us also means not coming to us to collect tzedaka. Our money is also traif.

    shredready
    shredready
    13 years ago

    csb Says:
    Reply to #11 Show Quote
    Says:

    “ the Zionist saved his live and his family’s.

    I guess no good deed goes unpunished ”

    They didn’t save him on their own free will, be smarter than that, they were told by fisher that they won’t succeed if the rebbe wasn’t included, read up a little bit on the subject befor u post

    I have and know it is a bubba massa

    the only people who believe that dribble is satmar. FYI there where many ultra orthodox Jews on the train and was not just full of young Zionist.

    I guess Satmar needs to create myths since the truth is to unbearable.
    A that the low and hated Zionist safed him
    B. That he left and left his Chasideim for the Germans and saying stay stay do not go to a trieva medina, but that is exactly where he went

    shredready
    shredready
    13 years ago

    favish Says:

    #15 listen here mr apikores of the 1st order

    criticizing a Jew hater does not make an apikores. as far as asking mechila my guess is the satmar rebbie is still doing this, to all the people he left behind while he left safely to a treva medina.. the first person on his list Kaztner

    charliehall
    charliehall
    13 years ago

    #16 ,

    “Shulchan Aruch Orach Chayim 329:6 which strictly prohibits ceding land to our enemies.”

    I just looked up your reference and it doesn’t say that; it discusses violating the Sabbath to save Jewish lives, not land. Many great rabbis have approved of Land for Peace.

    charliehall
    charliehall
    13 years ago

    “The time he said his view was a time that Israel was a police state.”

    Why must I read Hamas propaganda on a frum site? The only parts of Israel that were ever a police state were the Arab towns that were under martial law from 1948 to 1966.

    There are people who are trying to have me banned from dailykos.com because I tell the truth about the Arab terrorists. But the anti-Israel lies here are just as bad as the anti-Israel lies there.

    charliehall
    charliehall
    13 years ago

    ” the Gaon Horav Shragah Feivel Mendolovitch, the peron without question that brought Torah to America”

    No, there is no question that there was Torah in America before Rav Mendelovitz z’tz’l and that is no disrespect to him. JTS was Orthodox in its early days and its first graduate became Chief Rabbi of the UK. RIETS was already training rabbis at the time Rav Mendelovitz arrived, and Rabbi Jacob Joseph z’tz’l had been deceased for over a decade. And two generations earlier, Rabbi A. J. Rice and Ms. Rebecca Gratz were teaching torah to young people in Baltimore and Philadelphia, respectively. This does not diminish the great accomplishments of Rav Mendelovitz but he was not the first.

    charliehall
    charliehall
    13 years ago

    #32 ,

    To the contrary, there were (and are) tremendous gedolim who were Zionists, including Rabbi Yitzchak Yaacov Reines z’tz’l, Rav Kook z’tz’l, Rav Uziel z’tz’l, Rav Herzog z’tz’l, Rav Soloveitchik z’tz’l, Rav Goren z’tz’l, Rabbi Avraham Shapira z’tz’l, and two who were nifter very recently: Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu z’tz’l and Rabbi Yehuda Amital z’tz’l. Note that Rav Soloveitchik was a member of the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah of Agudath Israel of America while still in his 30s!

    Current gedolim who are Zionists include Rabbis Aharon Lichtenstein, Shlomo Aviner, Hershel Schachter, and Moshe Tendler.

    favish
    favish
    13 years ago

    #44 where do you get these ‘famous’ stories from ?