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Upper Nyack, NY - A $2.25 million Hudson River property bought for the New Square grand rabbi’s solitude has become the subject of legal action contesting the use of a 155-foot swath of land providing neighbors access to the river.
The response to the lawsuit by the rabbi’s followers goes into their failed illegal transfer of the property to a New Square-based congregation to avoid paying $198,000 in property taxes on the rabbi’s retreat house.
The legal action also includes claims from one neighbor that his property value is being diminished by buses and cars loaded with the rabbi’s followers who come to the house during the day and night, blocking a private road and access to the river.
The legal action by Menucha of Nyack LLC centers on blocking two neighbors from paving over a 10-foot-wide swath of lawn on Menucha’s property and giving them access to the river.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 11:58 AM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Cuomo is in so deep with the Hasidics; Brooklyn, New Square, KJ - he will NEVER go after them.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 12:49 PM eretz yisroel yid Says:Report as Inappropriate
$2.25 MILLION?
I am about to have my electricity and water cut off b/c i can't pay the bill; and yes i work full time.
How many yidden in eretz yisroel can be fed with $2.25 million?
How many cheder Rebbes can be paid (when they haven't been paid for months) with $2.25 million?
How many mothers can be given help to buy food for their babies with $2.25 million?
Are my priorities wrong?
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Oct 25, 2010 at 01:07 PM ExpatriateOwl Says:Report as Inappropriate
The property was "bought for the New Square grand rabbi’s solitude" but, according to the complaint, there are "buses and cars loaded with the rabbi's followers who come to the house during the day and night."
What kind of "solitude" is that?
If the Rebbe needs solitude, why doesn't he just check into a hotel under an assumed name?
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Oct 25, 2010 at 01:11 PM monseyyid Says:Report as Inappropriate
if u read the comments in the journal news, it'll teach how much we're in galus and at the mercy of Hashem. spewing fire and foul language, these comentators spare no Chassidishe person. it's time for teshuvah an maasim tovim.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 02:14 PM kollelfaker Says:Report as Inappropriate
as much as i like and respect the rebba this is a real problem firstly if the neighbors have an easement you can not close them out legally but this is foolish build a fence giving them access to the river as they always had and end this issue seems every other day we are in the news with one yeshiva or another trying to subvert the law to their advantage
stop blaming the world for our problems lets look closer to home 2.5 million pays a lot of rebbe's salaries
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Oct 25, 2010 at 01:40 PM sheaa Says:Report as Inappropriate
The skvere rabbe is a holy man so please think before you post your comment it may be very dangress if you post not good thinks on him
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Oct 25, 2010 at 01:43 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
What a shanda...we have one rav in Brooklyn screaming at the yeshivot for not spending more on chinuch for marginal bochurim who may not be talmedei chachamim, other rabbonim crying out for more tzedakah for starving yidden who have lost their jobs and have no unemployment insurance and this scoundrel in New Square is wasting $2.5 million on a "vacation home/retreat". what a shanda.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 01:51 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
#2 you are deffinitly wrong.its there money and you have no right moraly or legaly to be bitter to what another does or does not with his or her money.perhaps because of your eyen horah you've come to the dire situation where you can't pay your bills.with that being said i hope hashem sends you a decent parnassah and sends me sechel.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 02:07 PM wow ! Says:Report as Inappropriate
wow ! the say that the dont have money and look how much millians they heve for resort... do you understand this
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Oct 25, 2010 at 02:54 PM Longwave Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ if u read the comments in the journal news, it'll teach how much we're in galus and at the mercy of Hashem. spewing fire and foul language, these comentators spare no Chassidishe person. it's time for teshuvah an maasim tovim. ”
Teshuva? I am not the one the has a 2.25 million dollar 'retreat' that I use only a few days a year. How do you consider us to be in Galus when we have a $2.25 million mansion AND flaunt in my neighbor;s face that it is tax free.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 02:56 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Let him sell this palace and use the proceeds to feed the hungry Yidden.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 03:00 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
This is happening all over Rockland County and the rest of us residents are totally fed up. We need tax money desperately, and if it's JUST a Rabbi's house, then taxes should be paid on the property like all of us pay. Please read the comments posted and understand how the people feel about all Jews due to the actions of a few. Why can't New Square follow laws so as not to bring shame or put ALL Jews in the limelight? The block where this mansion is formerly was very quiet and peaceful without trash being left out to rot or rats coming to eat the garbage. Daily busloads of people and busses parked on the property do not belong here.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 03:03 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
Why does the Rabbi need such a big, fancy place for a retreat? How about a one bedroom condo close by? Does he really need to look at the Tappen Zee Bridge when he wakes up? Will that make him a better person? Rosie O'Donnell lives close by. I'm surprised he would want to live near her!
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Oct 25, 2010 at 03:22 PM noahz6 Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ The skvere rabbe is a holy man so please think before you post your comment it may be very dangress if you post not good thinks on him ”
your comment doesn't add to the kuved of your heiliger rebbe.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 04:06 PM BinderDundat Says:Report as Inappropriate
#6, I'm curious, what makes him so holy? as someone who went to him for a bracha twice, I learned one very important lesson. If you don't have money and REALLY need a bracha, he gives you a minute or two. The more money you give him, the more time you get. Sorry, I wont be going to see him again (B'N). I will daven and ask for brochos from the Ribbono Shel Olam. I don't need an agent. Let the Skverer Rebbe concentrate on getting his crooks out of jail.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 03:46 PM MonseyReader Says:Report as Inappropriate
If the Rebbe doesn't spend the night at his retreat, why does he need a Mikve?
$1Million in renovations? Next time the Yeshiva Avir Yaakov come knocking on my door, I'll think twice about my donation
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Oct 25, 2010 at 04:20 PM Simpletruth Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ #2 you are deffinitly wrong.its there money and you have no right moraly or legaly to be bitter to what another does or does not with his or her money.perhaps because of your eyen horah you've come to the dire situation where you can't pay your bills.with that being said i hope hashem sends you a decent parnassah and sends me sechel. ”
If it is their money - then let them pay their staff at the BP cheder. The rebbes there have not been paid. There is literally no money in the cheder. But a 2.5 million dollar home for the rebbe is necessary?!?! Do me a favor. I have respect for all rebbes out there, but please think of your chasidim, of the people working so hard for your mosdos, for your chasidus. And don't spend your money on such narishkeiten
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Oct 25, 2010 at 04:27 PM Simpletruth Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ If the Rebbe doesn't spend the night at his retreat, why does he need a Mikve?
$1Million in renovations? Next time the Yeshiva Avir Yaakov come knocking on my door, I'll think twice about my donation ”
Read the article again. It does not say that he never spends the night. It says "No one else spends the night with him"
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Oct 25, 2010 at 04:57 PM FED-UP Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ If it is their money - then let them pay their staff at the BP cheder. The rebbes there have not been paid. There is literally no money in the cheder. But a 2.5 million dollar home for the rebbe is necessary?!?! Do me a favor. I have respect for all rebbes out there, but please think of your chasidim, of the people working so hard for your mosdos, for your chasidus. And don't spend your money on such narishkeiten ”
And their bus drivers!! I keep hearing that they promise to pay soon but they are months behind and when they do pay it is only a small part of what they owe! I also would like an explanation on how the term tzaddik is defined. Just saying something is so doesn't make it so. It seems to me many of today's chassidusa are more into the real estate business than anything else unfortunately -- that and power! Sorry but I am all fed up with this mishegas.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 05:01 PM CommonSense Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ if u read the comments in the journal news, it'll teach how much we're in galus and at the mercy of Hashem. spewing fire and foul language, these comentators spare no Chassidishe person. it's time for teshuvah an maasim tovim. ”
No
It's time we started behaving in ways that don't make them hate us.
When Hispanics or other groups misbehave we can get just as hateful.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 05:12 PM leftover kishke Says:Report as Inappropriate
All of you out there who know everything about everything: before you start judging where the money should go and how exactly it should be spent, you have to know a thing or 2. First of all (I don't know much about the rebbe but I know that) he's a big person and besides for going to get a bracha from him many people go for advice (and he does treat everyone very very nice (and if it was only for 2 min just say thanks for your time and leave him alone he is a little busy). So before you start talking you should be very careful! 2nd thing you should know is: you don't know where the money came from it could be (probably) some rich dude decided he is getting the resort for his rebbe and the money is only for that! (maybe? No?) and if not that something else maybe. But don't forget to be mlamed zchus (even on a very well respected rebbe). Thank you and have a great day!
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Oct 25, 2010 at 05:51 PM piffel Says:Report as Inappropriate
to all you who left personal notes to the rebbe on this forem;
the chances of the rebbe reading them are non existent so please dont waste your time!
but agree to all of you.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 07:53 PM Shlomo2 Says:Report as Inappropriate
Why does everyone keep quoting the $2.25 million amount? That's just the initial investment. The TOTAL investment is $3.25 million, according to the article.
Perhaps, though, it pays for itself as it enables him to meet with "secular" patrons, according to the article. (I suppose it's high prestige to get invited, like being invited to the White House.)
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Oct 25, 2010 at 08:18 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
in bavly the gemora says: An example of Chilul hashem depends on the level of the person.
If a rabbi or highly respected person is just not paying his grocery or butcher bill the time of purchase. its concedered a chilul hashem. So if a Grand rabbi is involved in a luxery house on the river in such difficult economy. it may be a chilul hashem. I never heard that the holy Chenobler magid z"l or the Ba'al Shem Tov z"l had a resort house on the river.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 08:35 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
This house was a personal gift from R' Bentzy Dunner for the Skverer Rebbe. Bentzy was one of the greatest baalei tzedakah and gave millions of dollars for mosdos and poor people. He also gave 2.25 million house for the Skverer Rebbe whom he admired. What's the big fuss?
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Oct 25, 2010 at 08:48 PM bigwheeel Says:Report as Inappropriate
Poster # 4 (Monsey yid); You are right. We have to recognize at all times that we are in Galus. Also, Teshuva helps. But because we are in galus, we should try to lower our profile and making an attempt at cooperating with our neighbors and local authorities instead of having this attitude of "In Your Face" and seeming to outsmart the local authorities who are trying to enforce building and other codes for everyone's safety.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 08:50 PM lamdan Says:Report as Inappropriate
Vos farshtein mir pushte yiddin tzee der derech habaal shem
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Oct 25, 2010 at 11:11 PM Shlomo2 Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ This house was a personal gift from R' Bentzy Dunner for the Skverer Rebbe. Bentzy was one of the greatest baalei tzedakah and gave millions of dollars for mosdos and poor people. He also gave 2.25 million house for the Skverer Rebbe whom he admired. What's the big fuss? ”
You mean that Dunner came up with the idea on his own and it came as a complete surprise to the Rebbe and his Gabboyim?
And you mean that the Skvarer Rebbe had no choice in the matter?
And that even now, the Rebbe wouldn't be allowed to sell this "personal gift" and use the money for the poor and for those whose salaries have not been paid?
And that Dunner specifically stipulated that the neighbors should not be allowed to pass through in order to get to the river?
Interesting.
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Oct 25, 2010 at 11:28 PM moshe Says:Report as Inappropriate
i think that they is stuff going on with the dunner family and skver the almona r"l and the ysoimim are very agenst skver since he pest away. the are saying...
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Oct 25, 2010 at 11:36 PM outofthebox Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ The skvere rabbe is a holy man so please think before you post your comment it may be very dangress if you post not good thinks on him ”
we have a torah that tells us how to become holy, i understand where u come from. you grew up in a tunnel u can't see the light. it doesn't matter what they told u in yeshiva because everything there is pure propaganda, u see it every day since u r a little kid so this is your picture that he is holy and so on. remember, the torah tells us how to be holy. and there is no exceptions. you cannot tell a bais din how to maneuver the jewish law. you cannot intimidate poor people to bring u money, even if the project is very important to u. you and i and your friends know what i am referring to. the list gos on, we all knew him from the days before he became rebbe ( me, maybe you are to young and ignorant to remember) bottom line, a holy man is always holy even when it doesn't pay for him . go to shule and learn some sifray mussar and sifray chasidos you will get smarter.
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Oct 26, 2010 at 01:04 AM stavnitzer Says:Report as Inappropriate
“ #2 you are deffinitly wrong.its there money and you have no right moraly or legaly to be bitter to what another does or does not with his or her money.perhaps because of your eyen horah you've come to the dire situation where you can't pay your bills.with that being said i hope hashem sends you a decent parnassah and sends me sechel. ”
Their money? Or money donated by some donor in exchange for "olam habbah".
And by the way a Rav has a 5th shulchan urech and should use it wisely and not spend 2.5 million on a vacation home when so many of his chasidim (let alone every day Jews) don't have bread and butter.
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Oct 26, 2010 at 08:27 AM Berl Says:Report as Inappropriate
Relax, it is not his money, It was bought for him by those who want to show grattitude.
If you want to kvetch about wasted money, go scream about YOUR tax dollars which the Kenyan illegal alien who occupies the White House throws down the sewers for his and his wife's vacations. He reserved 520 rooms in the Taj Mahal for a vacation? Go scream about that
The Skverer Rebbe Shlit"a does more for the good of the world in a second that all the hacks in Washington have ever done in their whole lives. Go shrei about the Senators and Congressmens junkets, go Shrei about Pelosi's jet.
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May 24, 2011 at 12:57 PM Anonymous Says:Report as Inappropriate
New Square beit din tells hasidim violence is forbbidden. Skvere Rebbe does not sign.