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Thousands of Israeli students attend a mass rally in the center of Jerusalem on November 01, 2010, against a yeshiva student funding bill, meaning they would not receive the same support from the state as the yeshiva students. Photo by Yossi Zamir/Flash90. Thousands of Israeli students attend a mass rally in the center of Jerusalem on November 01, 2010, against a yeshiva student funding bill, meaning they would not receive the same support from the state as the yeshiva students. Photo by Yossi Zamir/Flash90.

Israel - Nearly 10,000 university students from across the country marched under the banner “We’re not suckers!” in Jerusalem on Monday night to show their opposition to the Knesset’s approval of stipends for married full-time yeshiva students.

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“We hope that this protest will help a little to change this law,” Hebrew University Student Union president Yuval Admon told The Jerusalem Post.

“We’re asking ourselves, how did we live with this law for so many years?” The protest was organized by the National Student Union and community groups in Jerusalem. Admon estimated that 150 buses of students came to the capital.

The protests against the approval, in first reading, of the 2011/2012 draft state budget, which includes the stipend funding, have gained the support of Hebrew University president Prof. Menahem Ben-Sasson.

He said on Sunday that the university “shares the concern of students” over the measure.

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Thousands of Israeli students attend a mass rally in the center of Jerusalem on November 01, 2010, against a yeshiva student funding bill, meaning they would not receive the same support from the state as the yeshiva students. Photo by Abir Sultan/FLASH90 Thousands of Israeli students attend a mass rally in the center of Jerusalem on November 01, 2010, against a yeshiva student funding bill, meaning they would not receive the same support from the state as the yeshiva students. Photo by Abir Sultan/FLASH90

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 Nov 01, 2010 at 10:24 PM menachemwh Says:

When the Rambam wrote that accepting zedaka to sit and learn was a chillul hashem....he had this bill in mind.

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 Nov 01, 2010 at 10:50 PM cholent Says:

Where is da'as Torah on this?
Agav, I thought Bibi was good across both lines.
Why is this a big deal. There are protests and demonstrations all the time in E"Y. Aren't they threatining to strike at the airport and cripple the country never mind putting them in danger?!
Also, the U. kids get tons of stipends towards their edu. and shouldn't complain cause they wouldn't want their perks scrutinized. The proffessors are tenured and get huge salaries benefits and pensions and don't exactly overwork. Sure, the tax proffesors add alot to society. Let's give him a raise and bonus to. For shame.
Signed: A yeshiva graduate and maters degree holder. I've seen both sides.

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 Nov 01, 2010 at 11:25 PM your donkey talk Says:

Your a huge fool and a shonei Hashem how dear you open your trap and talk like that against bein torah, your a disgrace.

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 Nov 01, 2010 at 11:29 PM jay Says:

Only ten thousand. I tout they are the majority. ?

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 Nov 01, 2010 at 11:57 PM 1LofaRide Says:

sheshes yomim tavod???

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 Nov 02, 2010 at 12:17 AM Yerachmiel Says:

Reply to #2  
cholent Says:

Where is da'as Torah on this?
Agav, I thought Bibi was good across both lines.
Why is this a big deal. There are protests and demonstrations all the time in E"Y. Aren't they threatining to strike at the airport and cripple the country never mind putting them in danger?!
Also, the U. kids get tons of stipends towards their edu. and shouldn't complain cause they wouldn't want their perks scrutinized. The proffessors are tenured and get huge salaries benefits and pensions and don't exactly overwork. Sure, the tax proffesors add alot to society. Let's give him a raise and bonus to. For shame.
Signed: A yeshiva graduate and maters degree holder. I've seen both sides.

Cholent,

I have a Masters degree. Unlike you, I know how to spell it. You also claim to be yeshiva student. I hope you learned more there. If not, you are an example of the kind of yeshiva student that should not be supported.

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 Nov 02, 2010 at 01:08 AM formally Says:

If the u guys and the secular stop getting an education the Israeli economy would collapse. If the yeshiva students would go to work, what would happen? no much, most maybe as much as 85% do not learn anywhere near 8 hours a day so no big loss. And they can learn if they really are learners before and after work like most of our grandfathers did.

This is a new, that people should support every tom dick and harry to sit talk, smoke, and maybe learn a few minutes every now and then.
It used to be a select few who would be supported, not everyone.

This bribery to get votes has to stop

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 Nov 02, 2010 at 02:09 AM Vestin Says:

If people want to be paid to sit and learn, they should be serious about it; There should be mandatory sign in, come late, get docked pay, and mandatory sign out when they leave for the day, with regular testing on all subject matter, those who cant make the cut, wont make it. After all taking money from the state of Israel for learning full time, if one isnt really learning full time should be called stealing, and would be a lav d'oraysah, or is that not relevant?

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 Nov 02, 2010 at 03:48 AM Anonymous Says:

Spokesman for the Knesset Finance Committee: "This is a supplement meant to help the weakest, poorest segment of society, one that has high numbers of children and no income. They need our help.”
"...on average university students get significantly more funding from the state than yeshiva students."
The spokesman further states, "just like special budgets for the disabled or for veterans."

Maybe this hasn't raised eyebrows in the past 30 years, but people are becoming fed up. They see government support for University students as an investment that pays off with employable graduates who have served in the army and will pay taxes. In contrast, the Yeshiva students typically are not assimilated into the workforce and continue to drain government resources. And the number of Yeshiva stipends has quadrupled in the last 4 years.

The average Israeli is starting to resent the disproportionate influence of hareidim who are starting families (without an income) while they are serving in the army; then move on to control secular matters such as marriage without compromise.

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 Nov 02, 2010 at 04:28 AM curious Says:

Reply to #6  
Yerachmiel Says:

Cholent,

I have a Masters degree. Unlike you, I know how to spell it. You also claim to be yeshiva student. I hope you learned more there. If not, you are an example of the kind of yeshiva student that should not be supported.

Masters' degree.
The bill is a Chillul Hashem. People should not be forced to support a lifestyle they don't accept. We must remember, that "Torah needs malachah" does not mean by proxy.

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 Nov 02, 2010 at 09:11 AM oiber-chacham Says:

as a chareidi jew myself,i absolutely 100% agree with these students,there is absolutely no reason why tens of thousands young healthy well abled young men should not go to work,and be supported by state sponsored welfare.,and on top of that they refuse army duty and do their share in protecting their homeland.and the biggest CHILLUL HASHEM is that all this is being accomplished by using raw and pure blackmail,
being that no right wing government could be put together without the support of the chareidi memmbers of parliament. therefore they are able to force the 90% of the population to support 10% of draft dodging parasites,is there a bigger CHILLUL HASHEM than this,yes i called them draft dodging parasites,because we all know the dirty secret that 95% of so called KOLLEL YUNGELEIT are absolutely not learners,and the only reason they sit in KOLLEL is to AVOID SERVING IN THE IDF

chaim.s

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 Nov 02, 2010 at 10:47 AM cholent Says:

Reply to #6  
Yerachmiel Says:

Cholent,

I have a Masters degree. Unlike you, I know how to spell it. You also claim to be yeshiva student. I hope you learned more there. If not, you are an example of the kind of yeshiva student that should not be supported.

Once again attack the messenger not the message.
A typical liberal with a masters degree and an overdose of brainwashing.
I hope you made zman krias shma today.

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 Nov 02, 2010 at 01:38 PM kollelfaker Says:

cholent really people of over taxed and they dont want to see their tax dollar being spent this way if you want to sit and learn then do it on your own dollar if you dont have it do as my magid shuir did he learnt by rav pam until mid 30's and worked after kollel to support his wife and children not his parents or hers not society on his own just like all of our gedolium of past i forget what rabbis akivah did to put food on his table and learn in yeshiva

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 Nov 02, 2010 at 07:20 PM shvigger Says:

How do they have time to protest. They should get a life and a job.

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